Get Offset Episode 150 Cool Dry Place with Katy Kirby

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[00:00:00] Emily: I remembered to stop it. Welcome to the get offset podcast. My name is Emily. My

[00:00:17] Katy: name is Andrew and my name is Katie.

[00:00:20] Emily: Yeah. They were here with Katie Kirby who released one of my personal favorite records of 2021. Hello? Hi, what’s up? Oh yeah. You know, we’re just, uh, bright and early, uh, in, in Seattle.

[00:00:35] You’re in, you are in Nashville. It sounds like.

[00:00:39] Katy: Yeah. It’s uh, I’m south Nashville in an area called Woodbine.

[00:00:43] Emily: Yeah. I’m very familiar with what that area looked like about six, seven years ago when I, um, my husband, cause he lived in Woodbine. I do not remember the street, but I remember getting very lost, trying to find him one.

[00:00:58] Because I had no cell reception and her advice would buy. Yeah. Yeah. And then I just looked to my left at one point and saw a thousand. I was like, oh my God. He just stood at that point in his life, he was just living in a friend named Eric, his attic. And it was quite a time to be alive. Quite a time to date Nashville.

[00:01:23] Katy: Yeah. Like 20 13, 20 14, 20 15,

[00:01:26] Emily: 20 16, the 11 that’s when we met 2011, late 2011. Yes. Asheville was very different. You weren’t even in Nashville then where are you?

[00:01:41] Katy: I didn’t show up until 2013.

[00:01:43] Emily: Yeah. So there was, yeah, it was already pretty different by then, but not too different. So it didn’t really start to change until 2014 and then.

[00:01:56] And then it just, it was very accelerated, very accelerated change start. I think it was 2015. I was driving an intern at my job back to Belmont where I went to school and where you went to school and I was driving through campus like, fuck, is this place?

[00:02:13] Katy: It looks so different. Yeah. Do you remember the, uh, um, the Thai restaurant on diamond Boulevard international?

[00:02:21] That’s gone. Um, well, yeah,

[00:02:24] Emily: I remember that, that was so sad because that was such a great place for

[00:02:27] Katy: cheap eats such a great place. Well, and also I think they moved somewhere nice. So they’re, they’re like, well taken care of, I believe, but like Belmont bought that. They turned it into like apparently a very fancy concert hall.

[00:02:36] I don’t know if I’m supposed to know that. I don’t think anyone cares. Um, and finally, and then we can stop talking about school because it’s dumb. But do you remember the gas station at the corner of no, no, no, no, no. That obviously iconic as well, but the other one. Uh, at the intersection of Wedgewood and 12th avenue south, right.

[00:03:02] As it turns into edge hill Boulevard, uh, that had, it’s like a little gas station, but it’s not a gas station. It’s a, it’s like a, drive-through where you can buy cigarettes. Yeah.

[00:03:14] Emily: It’s like, um, in Ohio we call them pony kegs. Yes. Oh,

[00:03:18] Katy: wow. That’s an amazing title. There’s there was one at the corner there that had like an enormous poster of just like someone’s very shapely ass in a thong, but like with a monster energy drink, like tucked into the back strap of the song, it was like the monster thong corner colloquially.

[00:03:44] Emily: That sounds right. We called it the murder mark corner. But then by the time you got there, the murder murder.

[00:03:49] Andrew: Yeah, energy drink

[00:03:51] Emily: tastes like ass. Yeah. Is that, is that where the story is? Or did you just want to commiserate about that corner with somebody? No,

[00:04:00] I

[00:04:00] Katy: mean that corner gone. It’s been a smoothie king for the past, like,

[00:04:03] Emily: oh yeah.

[00:04:03] I remember driving past it now when I was at Belmont, my sophomore year, I lived on the fifth floor of thrill kill and I worked at the library and I found, um, but telescope that you could check out from the library. So I checked out the telescope, uh, indefinitely and I just put it in our window and I would just kind of frequently just see what was happening on that corner.

[00:04:32] Cause I didn’t have a television. Yeah. It was pretty great. It was the best. So I would just see like, what’s happened at that corner specifically. Cause it was the best people watching. Now I just kind of peek over because the trees were all smaller. I would like that’s when they were doing the construction on the pharmacy building and the nursing school and all that.

[00:04:51] So that was totally a laugh. Yeah. Yeah. And again, since I didn’t have a TV, uh, and just so people know, like Belmont was like a Christian university and one of the things that they, they had lots of rules about things like opposite gendered people in your room. So again, then have a TV, you got very good at sneaking boy into yeah.

[00:05:15] Among other things, you got to find your own entertainment. There’s always backdoor. Yeah. And by the time you get to TK, like that was a mixed gendered. Uh, so right. Just put them on the elevator.

[00:05:31] Katy: Yeah. No, one’s like, what are you doing? Why are you

[00:05:34] Emily: here? What’s under

[00:05:35] stairs.

[00:05:38] Katy: As long

[00:05:38] Andrew: as you don’t interdigitate on the elevator.

[00:05:40] Nobody. No. Inter what now? Hunter. Digitate all right. Cool. I also went to a private Christian college and that’s what we referred to it as, instead of just being normal people and calling them

[00:05:52] Emily: what? Yeah. Why you gotta make it grocer?

[00:05:55] Katy: Yeah, that’s fucked up. Wait where’d you go to school,

[00:05:57] Andrew: Andrew to school at Azusa Pacific university down in Southern Cal.

[00:06:01] Yeah.

[00:06:03] Katy: In Santa Barbara,

[00:06:05] Andrew: uh, LA area, LA east of Pasadena, about 20 miles or so memory serves right on the mileage, you know, um, it take an hour on the bus to get to downtown Pasadena. And since it didn’t have a car that was the best way to go. We’ll have some fun

[00:06:21] Emily: now. We’re shot bad, honestly. Huh? See, I’m the one who was an atheist and chose to go to the Christian university.

[00:06:29] Katy: Dang. How was it? That, that doesn’t sound particularly fun, but

[00:06:36] Emily: I didn’t get into the other big music business program in the country.

[00:06:40] Katy: What would’ve that been at the time?

[00:06:41] Emily: Berkeley? Uh, NYU. Oh yeah. I didn’t get into Berkeley college of music, but uh,

[00:06:51] Katy: but like, yeah.

[00:06:54] Emily: Well the thing is like, I, you get like a full ride scholarship.

[00:06:58] It’s not really worth going to Berkeley.

[00:07:01] Katy: No, cause you’re not getting like an, any other kind of education that seems like

[00:07:06] Emily: no, and I didn’t really want to put all my eggs in one basket. Really? I’m a pretty functional guitarist. I’m pretty good guitarist, but like, I’m not, I don’t know. I just thought I’d be bored if I was all I did all day, every day forever.

[00:07:25] Yeah. But, and now I just spend all day writing. Copy. Sweet. All right. Uh, so you went to, you went to Belmont. I went to Belmont. Andrew went to a private Christian college. We all have that in common. It’s pretty exciting. Yeah. It’s probably the first time that’s ever happened. No, actually it’s not because, uh, we had Sarah Zimmerman on the podcast from striking matches and she also went to Beaumont and she is very fucking good guitarist.

[00:07:54] Andrew: Yes.

[00:07:56] Emily: Do you know who she is? No.

[00:07:59] Katy: That name sounds bizarrely familiar for some reason.

[00:08:02] Emily: Yeah, she does a ton of Gibson events. Um, she and her partner who his name escapes me and striking matches. I say, I want to say, oh, I want to say it starts with a J um, they wrote a bunch of songs for that TV show Nashville.

[00:08:18] Uh, they did an album with T-bone Burnett. Gotcha.

[00:08:23] Katy: Okay. Yeah. Contextualize it for me. Cool.

[00:08:27] Emily: Yeah, just off the, off the charts. Good. So I guess that’s at least the second time this has happened

[00:08:34] Andrew: nine. Alrighty. So Emily, what’s, what’s new with you.

[00:08:38] Emily: Uh, I replaced the dumb, stupid Jack and this motherfucker right here.

[00:08:46] Andrew: And for listeners who have no idea what she’s talking about, because that leaves a lot open to interpretation,

[00:08:52] Emily: no audio, only version of this podcast, my Squier baritone guitar, the Jack was kind of falling out of it. And I kind of figured out why the Jack was falling out of it, watching the video on YouTube, which will have launched.

[00:09:04] Um, so a lot of people complained, were complaining about the Jackson, these baritones, uh, that they were kind of just not holding, staying in there. And I figured it out. It’s just that they didn’t drill the hole the right side. So, um, for mine, I figured out that they were kind of. They kind of MacGyvered it they’d put like a little piece of sheet metal in there that was kind of like catching it to hold the Jack itself in place.

[00:09:30] But the socket around it was just kind of screwed on like, mm. So it was kind of loosey goosey. So I put the electric socket in there. So the electric socket, uh, I drilled holes to secure it. So now it’s all secure and if he’s writing. Okay. But with it, I did it myself. Well, there you

[00:09:51] Andrew: go.

[00:09:53] Emily: 15 minutes

[00:09:53] Andrew: fix.

[00:09:55] That’s pretty neat.

[00:09:56] Emily: Yeah. I, to get my tools out of my toolbox and the toolbox was empty

[00:10:04] Andrew: by what are your tools?

[00:10:07] Emily: No, I just, I didn’t put them back. You just had it scattered? Yeah.

[00:10:12] Katy: Yeah.

[00:10:13] Andrew: About bad about it. That tracks.

[00:10:15] Emily: Okay. But since it’s only been two days since we recorded the last episode, Andrew, I’ve nothing else.

[00:10:22] What’s new with you, Andrew?

[00:10:23] Andrew: Um, I’ve redone my office

[00:10:26] Emily: again. Okay. Oh, he wants to talk about his, his, his Ikea run. This dude went to Ikea and like, I won’t ruin the story. Oh,

[00:10:33] Andrew: that’s right. I almost forgot. How could I forget such an iconic moment? So he didn’t know. So I, it was after we recorded, the last episode is kind of sitting here, like cleaning some stuff up and I’m staring at my desk and it’s this big old butcher block desk.

[00:10:48] It’s like 61 inches by 30 inches deep. And this room is not large. And I, so for context, so I’ve got a work bench over here. It was over here. I’ve got a couch here. It was behind me. So the orange couch is not gone. Folks is still here. It will be used and enjoyed, uh, but flip some furniture around my room.

[00:11:09] And suddenly things felt a lot larger than it did previously, where I had felt like I had like 10 square feet to operate in with all the furniture surrounding it. I was looking at the desk and I went, you know what, this is too big for this space. This, this is no longer working. And it was this awkwardly stuck at like three inches too far for me to actually access the drawers on the left side of my work bench.

[00:11:31] Um, so I went online to Ikea and I’m like, all right, here’s the dimension. Like, this is what I can work with. Size-wise and let’s figure out what can do for your desk? Turns out they, uh, so I got like a $30 or picked out a $30, uh, just plain desktop. I already had the legs for it laying around, oddly enough.

[00:11:49] Um, and a couple of other shelves and just a couple of other random things. I’m like, all right, I can’t opens tomorrow at nine 30 in the morning. I’m going to get there at nine. O’clock wait in line because it’s the only Ikea for the state. There will be a line and I’m going to start my stopwatch. The moment I answered to the moment I step out of the building, try and speed, run this in 30 minutes or less.

[00:12:11] I showed up prepared. Like I had like the, the aisle number and bin number for like each of the items I was going forward. So in 20 minutes and 55 seconds, I think it was in and out. I managed to get everything I needed deal with the returns department, because I also need to do that. Uh,

[00:12:33] Emily: I didn’t know that about that part because that’s the most impressive part to me.

[00:12:37] Katy: Right. Well, we’ll respectfully to you, Andrew. Not impressive on you. Impressive on the good workers of Ikea. God bless them. Yes.

[00:12:44] Andrew: And it certainly helped my case. Uh, so I showed up at night, like 8 55. I’m like, all right here, like 35 minutes before open, this feels like I have out done myself and made it this now a waste of time, because if I just showed up at an opening and waited in line, it would have been less than 30 minutes net loss.

[00:13:01] Sure. And then the doors started opening it like nine o’clock and someone’s like, wait, it, Google says it opens at nine 30 and of the other. Guy’s like, oh yeah, I’m a regular here. They just don’t want you to know that. So the regulars can get in earlier, something like that,

[00:13:13] Emily: the Costco does this exact same thing.

[00:13:17] Katy: So

[00:13:18] Emily: I rolled it. Shit. You learn when you’re in your thirties,

[00:13:21] Andrew: right? Yeah. So it was quite the miraculous run. And then of course, to just put icing on the cake, I needed to also make a potty break because caffeine kicked in and that’s what happened. And

[00:13:33] Emily: I know stop your story there.

[00:13:36] Andrew: I know the story has to be stopped, but it did happen.

[00:13:38] So all that to say, I’ve got a new desk here. I can actually access the left side of my work bench. I had a buddy over, we hung up a bunch of shelves. Um, I think you guys can see it. I don’t know if it’ll show up on the final recording, but I’ve never got pedals on the shelf to the left of my jazz master, I guess.

[00:13:54] So you’re right.

[00:13:54] Emily: I’ll try to edit it in.

[00:13:56] Andrew: Um, but yeah, so I’ve actually got stuff that’s off the ground

[00:14:01] Emily: out of boxes. I don’t know why you’re stealing my, my whole look, but

[00:14:06] Andrew: uh, I mean, it’s a good look,

[00:14:08] Emily: whatever.

[00:14:13] Turn off my alarm. Oh, I thought that was one

[00:14:17] Katy: very gentle wake-up

[00:14:18] Emily: music. I was like, oh yeah, that’s me. That was me.

[00:14:21] Andrew: Uh, so yeah, that’s, what’s new with me. I’m looking at like a whole wall of got some, uh, my Taylor Adams art print over the left. I’ve got some star wars memory really off to the right. Um, I’ve got some more pedals hung up.

[00:14:33] I’ve got the, a listers, I think will appreciate this. I’ve got the, the Mount hood. Um, the, yeah, that’s the title manufacturing model, but the pedal, the goodness, the prototype. There we go. There’s the word. Yeah, I do. So I pulled it out of pulled out of the box and so I’ve got it set up there with a box next to it with everybody’s signature on it.

[00:14:58] And then the, the booklet that I sent around for everybody.

[00:15:01] Emily: Yeah. That’s a great point. That’s a great segue into if you want to have special perks with the good offset podcast, like perhaps. Being able to try out the Mount hood prototype because that’s something that all of our Patrion support has got to do.

[00:15:15] Check us out on patrion.com/get offsets. Uh, if we hit our goal, uh, Andrew will record for our Patriots. A I don’t know what, what’s the genre that you’re doing this shit in

[00:15:28] Andrew: metal core screamo. Just something loud in of the

[00:15:31] Emily: wiggles. Yep. Okay. So that’s going to happen. Sure. Yeah. I have nothing to do with it.

[00:15:37] Um, but that’s going to be really fun. I’m excited. I don’t know what that genre is, but I’m excited to hear it.

[00:15:43] Andrew: Distorted guitar expect me attempting to scream

[00:15:47] Emily: and scream. I’ll make you scream. Yeah. All right. So that, uh, yeah, that’s a one way to support the show. You can also like comment, subscribe on YouTube and leave a review on iTunes, a fun stuff.

[00:16:01] Uh, Katie, what’s new with you,

[00:16:04] Katy: um, in gear world. I rarely have anything to report, but recently I did buy, um, uh, Tyszko at a guitar center of all

[00:16:17] Emily: places. Um,

[00:16:20] Katy: yes. Yeah. Um, my, my dear friend and producer Alberto, like picked it up out of the corner and was like, this is awesome. And also it’s very cheap for what it is.

[00:16:33] And I was like, cool. And so I played around with it and I really liked it. And I was like, I’m going to impulse buy a guitar. I never do this. Do it. It was like $250. Whoa. Yeah. And

[00:16:45] Andrew: I’m like the mid

[00:16:46] Katy: sixties. Yeah, exactly. Well, he was like, this is really nice. You should buy it. It is really cheap. And I said, okay.

[00:16:52] And so I did, um, and he was like, all like all, like intonated for you, I’ll set it up for you. And I was like, thank you for, thank you for using your powers for me. Um, but I got kind of drunk that night. With a dear friend and came home and he was like in the kitchen, like cradling it on his lap and then had it like set up.

[00:17:16] And it was the best drunk surprise of my life.

[00:17:19] Emily: Aw. Congratulations on your new guitar. Yeah,

[00:17:24] Katy: it’s still, it’s still needs a little, little finagling, but, um, yeah, it’s pretty, it sounds really nice. I haven’t, it’s still kind of like, it’s still needs a couple of things, so I haven’t gotten to play it very much, but it’s, uh, noodley and warm.

[00:17:46] I don’t, I don’t speak about gear all that often, but I would say noodley and warm are the official terms that I can throw out there for

[00:17:55] Emily: sure. I do love it. That’s what matters.

[00:17:59] Katy: I do love it. And it’s very pretty to be

[00:18:01] Emily: honest, which what color. Um,

[00:18:05] Katy: it’s a sunburst, but it has like a plastic, a little plastic Picard.

[00:18:09] That’s like black and silver, but it has like, um, flowers on it.

[00:18:15] Emily: Cause

[00:18:15] Katy: I was like, is that too? Cause like I don’t play guitar quite well enough to feel like I can roll up to things with like an ax as it were like that that’s, that’s like some sort of expectation that like I can tread. Um, but it’s like right on the cusp of that.

[00:18:34] I think it’s, it’s pretty restrained,

[00:18:38] Emily: you know, I’ve seen your audio tree session and I disagree with you on that one. Um, because I always tell you the same thing that, so I, I, um, I play guitar at least partially because my mother had a guitar. When I was, when I was basically big enough to, I knew my mother owned a guitar and she never really played a lot growing up.

[00:19:01] Um, but when I was big enough to basically get my hands around the neck, I begged her to like, let me play it, give me my first lessons. She taught me a very like open FCG off to the races. And then when the pandemic hit, uh, she needed, she was like talking to me, she’s like, Hey, a hobby. And I said, you just, you have a guitar, you should learn guitar.

[00:19:23] You should just pick the guitar back up. And she said, well, someone stole my, my tutor and my Cape of stuff. Maybe if I had that, I play it. And so I called her bluff. I got her tuner and a capo and again, off to the races. And, uh, she really picked it up and, you know, a few weeks ago she was in town and she was playing one of my guitars and, and she was kind of feeling kind of frustrated because she’s like, oh, when I’m playing like my guitar at home, like I can hit all the notes.

[00:19:50] I’m like, yeah, but you’re moving with such. Confidence that it’s like pretty obvious that you you’re, you’re playing with such confidence. Like if you’re your guitar, I know that you’d be hitting those notes. And when on the IOT session, just like the way you were accompanying yourself, you’re hitting this with confidence.

[00:20:06] You were playing very softly, which meant your volume was way up, which meant if you hit a wrong note, it would have been pretty obvious. And you were hitting the right notes and you’re playing with confidence and you were playing very gently. You weren’t pushing and pulling. You were playing very steadily.

[00:20:24] That was that’s a guitar playing Katie. Thanks, Todd.

[00:20:27] Katy: Yeah.

[00:20:28] Emily: Yeah. No people can accompany themselves like that.

[00:20:36] Katy: Yeah, that’s

[00:20:36] Emily: fair. Yeah, I wouldn’t, I would say you’re definitely more than an okay. Guitarist and, and shredding is so many different definitions. And if you you’re defining shredding as like Eddie van Halen, Right.

[00:20:53] Nobody,

[00:20:53] Katy: nobody can. When I say shredding, I’m usually like, that’s a very masculine term for me or something. I don’t know. But yeah. But thank you for saying that also that’s lovely. Uh, I don’t know anyone who’s like learned guitar from their mother. That’s like, I that’s, um, that’s making me feel very email, kind of that’s beautiful.

[00:21:17] Emily: I love your mom play guitar. Didn’t you say that?

[00:21:20] Katy: No, she did write songs for awhile and she can kind of like pick out chords on a piano. Um, yeah, my dad kind of played guitar growing up. Uh,

[00:21:34] Emily: yeah, I should say I had a family friend who played more electric guitar and I was in guitar lessons and all my guitar teachers were men, especially at Belmont, I should say, uh, God, I don’t know if any of those teachers were still there, but there probably were like my guitar teacher at Belmont was, I did not like that guy.

[00:21:54] My banjo teacher was worth. I remember, I remember telling that guy that I like played a guitar for eight years. By the time I was at Belmont and he was spent this decided to spend like an hour of, one of my lessons, teaching me what a hammer on him and pull off was.

[00:22:11] Katy: I was about that.

[00:22:14] Emily: And then I canceled the lessons.

[00:22:15] After that, I was like, this, this was going to be like,

[00:22:20] Katy: Hmm. Oh, wow. I have, I, I have been taking lessons, not a ton. What just the, this dude’s name is Alex Molina. And I, I took lessons from him a bunch during the summer. I stopped recently, but he is, uh, the drummer of pile. Um, if you’re familiar with that band and is a literal genius.

[00:22:41] So anyone else. Guitar lessons that are really, really good. Um, he’s your boy.

[00:22:49] Emily: Nice. Cool.

[00:22:52] Katy: Just a hard, hard recommend. Um, yeah. Nice. Oh, one more gear related thing. And I would love to know your thoughts on this. Um, Alberto has had, has had this pedal called Julia for a long time. Is that walrus snakes? Yeah.

[00:23:12] And like he stole it from someone else that plays in my band. Occasionally named hunt. I play guitars on colder place and then Logan, my other guitar player has been stealing Alberto’s Julia pedal so much that he just bought one and then R. A secondary drummer named Kayla was like, that sounds amazing.

[00:23:36] And so now he purchased one and Logan had to talk me out of purchasing one recently, cause I was like, but they just sound so good and you don’t have to do anything about it. Um, but, uh, yeah, those are the only two like gear related, um, incidences in my

[00:23:52] Emily: day to day, Julia is a really popular pedal. Um, it, and I think it’s, uh, it’s a pretty dark sounding pedal.

[00:23:59] Uh, so if you have a little, a lot of other dark sounding pedals, it can kind of make it a little over dark. Uh, of course, pedal I really love is the summersault by Carolina effects and they’re one of our sponsors. So they could also podcast is sponsored by Carolyn guitar corporation, a company, um, and they’re based out of South Carolina.

[00:24:17] Um, I really love that pedal. I think it’s pretty fun and easy to dial it into dual, um, chorus and vibrato pedal. Another chorus pedal. I like a lot is the Alexander effects. Sugar-free. Friends, I would grab it. The princess sitting on it

[00:24:35] Andrew: don’t want to

[00:24:35] Katy: upset

[00:24:36] Emily: prince. No, I can’t upset prince purple rain prince, especially.

[00:24:40] Um, so that’s another one that I, I personally like a lot as far as, uh, chorus, pedals go. Um, but the Julia is like, people love that pedal. Why did some, why did somebody talk you out of buying it? What was the reason that gets buy in it? Well,

[00:24:53] Katy: because then there would be like three, first of all, I have, I don’t use pedals enough to necessarily be like, I’m should drop like over $100 on any puddle of anything.

[00:25:10] Um, and also like there’s three, like our bass player is running his, like Alberta’s playing bass so that there would be like, Instruments running through a Juliet at the same time. It’s just seems like there’s no way that that’s

[00:25:26] Emily: I think you’re going to make some people sick. Yeah, right? Yeah.

[00:25:29] Andrew: No, no, no.

[00:25:30] Yeah. I think that’s par for the course for a lot of, uh, contemporary worship. Julia is like the standard chorus. We see him right now for about five years now. It’s like every time I like scroll Instagram, I see. Oh, that’s the worship guitar players. Board Juliet. There it is. Yeah.

[00:25:47] Emily: There was a virus. There was a, there was a, there was a guitar community viral tweet that was basically like, I can tell a lot about your personality based on your pedal board.

[00:25:55] And it was very much like it was essentially boiled down to do you play in church or do you not play in church? And if there’s a Julia or like three Strymon and pedals on your board, it’s like church. Yeah.

[00:26:08] Katy: Oh my God. That’s great. I can’t wait to go out

[00:26:13] Andrew: some point because you, uh, I I’ve seen the Julia called out in other interviews that you’ve done before.

[00:26:19] And like, I wonder if like, is that a carry over from past experiences CCM or is that just a happy-go-lucky find just for the gear itself? Cause it does sound good on its own.

[00:26:31] Emily: You can’t the channel just because it’s CCM, I’ve done one hate for other reasons. And we can talk about that later offline. So I know like,

[00:26:46] Katy: again, I don’t, I’m, I’m not super in your world very often.

[00:26:52] Um, but. So to answer your question. No, I had no idea that it was connected to CCM at all. And that’s really funny to me. However, the person who for the PR like patient zero of, Ooh, I can’t say patient, I’m not going to say patient zero as a metaphor right now. I’m so sorry

[00:27:10] Emily: if I need to find that out.

[00:27:13] Katy: That’s fine. Then. Um, so hunt, who was the first person who had one of these and we were like, damn, that sounds really cool. Uh, did grow up playing in church to some extent, I know as like an electric guitar player. So that does add up and I’m really mad about it being honest, but that’s hilarious. Um, wow.

[00:27:40] Emily: Wow. That’ll check out that checks out, checks out a little bit.

[00:27:50] Wow. We can talk a little more on your things if you want. It doesn’t have to be one last year thing. I know Andrew want to talk about some upcoming year things. I don’t particularly because, well, the only thing that’s been released as of like now Andrew is the, uh, old blood noise pedal, the reverb. Yep.

[00:28:09] Andrew: Which is the please, or is it something to do with the light?

[00:28:14] Emily: The

[00:28:14] Andrew: sunlight? There we go. I saw something about like, as I was going to sleep last night, I’m like, I’ll watch that in the morning. And then I, well that’s because

[00:28:22] Emily: it can really, at midnight, the sunlight, I love old blood noise endeavors. I have heartburn it, you know, no warning.

[00:28:33] I hate it. Uh, so the sunlight $209 is a dynamic Reaver pedal. Uh,

[00:28:46] Katy: Uh,

[00:28:48] Emily: I think that the thing is that like, it’ll hold out each note until the next note. So that’s pretty neat. It’s almost like, um, almost like ducking dynamics, incentives, dynamic dynamics, sensitivity, and decay nod for river feedback to create in developing infinite reverb, tape comb, and pass modes to apply wobbling Vibra stacked resident delays or random.

[00:29:20] I can’t wait to play this. I’m going to get one. Uh, they’re gonna, they’re gonna send me one. I just was not part of the launch.

[00:29:27] Andrew: That sounds fun. And it sounds like it’d be, interestingly particulate are articulate. That’s the word I’m looking for for like a reverb, like for it, for a type of effect that tends to be so washy if it’s going to be like for each note.

[00:29:42] I think that could be really interesting.

[00:29:46] Emily: Ambient. I, yeah, I think it could, I think it could be more versatile than some things that are otherwise used for ambient, um, beyond ambient music. Um, I still think it’s going to be better for things that, uh, have a lot of space between the notes. Uh, but I’m excited.

[00:30:06] I’m excited for it. It’s not going to be a Sunday crush, uh, key that’s that’s my band, uh, Sunday crush kind of pedal probably, but maybe I could work on some songs. Um, yeah, I’m excited to try that if

[00:30:20] Andrew: nothing else. That definitely sounds like, you know, edible and chill on a Thursday night by

[00:30:25] Emily: with that. Yeah.

[00:30:28] So I already talked about, we were, uh, responsive by Caroline guitar company and the reason that I have to read the, uh, the, uh, The, um, the spots Katie is because, uh, and I haven’t really disclosed this. We’re not getting any financial compensation because of, uh, for the sponsorship. And I feel like this is actually kind of funny.

[00:30:51] I’ve talked before about, um, this guitar, I’ve released a video about this guitar, Katie in the chat. I’m going to put a link. I don’t know if you’ll be able to click this link, but, uh, my friend, Felipe from Caroline is actually the one who is helping me refinish what I have named the cloud to the guitar or the cloud should not have gone to Prince’s guitar.

[00:31:14] Katy: Well, extremely

[00:31:15] Emily: cloud titties. That’s honestly

[00:31:21] Katy: like it’s silly. It’s a very silly, that’s like, that’s some like good, that’s some gear nonsense, like of the highest order, but it’s like really. Beautiful to look at where I,

[00:31:38] Emily: I can’t, I can’t leave it like this.

[00:31:41] Katy: No, I mean, I think you should, but just like, you know,

[00:31:45] Andrew: it’s been documented for the historical archives and that’s probably good enough

[00:31:49] Katy: for society.

[00:31:51] Emily: My, my sunflower garden photo shoot with this guitar, my friend and I did our posing. We, I have a great picture of some bong reps with this guitar. She’s got lighting, shooting at it for butthole, Katie. She

[00:32:10] Katy: really does. Unfortunately, we’ve all been

[00:32:13] Emily: there and who amongst us is not

[00:32:17] Katy: what I was

[00:32:17] Andrew: just say static electricity does some very strange

[00:32:21] Emily: things.

[00:32:22] Sometimes it was also signed by Kix Brooks and Ronnie Dunn. So.

[00:32:29] So that’s what is fun. That’s why this podcast is sponsored by the Caroline guitar company. Cat’s out

[00:32:37] Andrew: of the bag. I’ve known about this for a little bit. I’ve just been cracked. I love that. Felipe was like, yeah, I got you. Let’s do it.

[00:32:46] Katy: Well,

[00:32:46] Emily: the thing is, it kind of happened organically, but, uh, that’s, that’s all I’m going to this.

[00:32:50] It’s, it’s, it’s a journey I’m giving this guitar new life because it had been sitting in Carter vintage for three years. People have been giving me so much shit about repainting. This guitar. People are mad that I’m repainting this guitar. I talked about. I tell them Nashville is probably like one of the biggest things you go to.

[00:33:12] If you want to buy a guitar. And Carter vintage is one of the most traffic to guitar stores for people who want to buy a

[00:33:17] Katy: guitar, right? If not. Who like who? Yeah. Yes, absolutely great point. People

[00:33:23] Emily: had three, three years to buy this guitar as it was if they wanted to appreciate and love it for what it was.

[00:33:30] Yeah. I’m saving it. I’m pulling it

[00:33:32] Katy: from chance. Yeah.

[00:33:34] Emily: It has chance and also really wild stuff going on in the inside.

[00:33:38] Andrew: That’s probably too late to do this, but what I think, just to respond to everybody who’s upset. It could have been fun to livestream. Just taking a

[00:33:46] Emily: heat gun. Oh no. I’m not taking the paint off.

[00:33:49] Uh, the person who’s painting it is I asked, I asked him to send pictures of the process and he said, what kind of pictures? And I said, sexy pictures.

[00:33:59] Katy: Oh,

[00:33:59] Andrew: that’s open to interpretation.

[00:34:04] Emily: Sexy pictures.

[00:34:06] Andrew: Get that email back. And definitely like just being here.

[00:34:10] Emily: Well, I want him on a bear skin rug shipping the paint off of this guitar.

[00:34:16] Um, no. So

[00:34:18] Andrew: grizzly bear. All right, there we go. Sorry. I heard bare skin and I got really confused. Oh,

[00:34:24] Katy: bear within the AI.

[00:34:26] Emily: Gotcha. Hominids. It’s one of my favorite 30 rock jokes was a that game show hall. And then there was a game show called hominin where someone would say a word and then the person would try to guess which word it was like the definition.

[00:34:41] And they were always fraud. That was the premise of the game.

[00:34:45] Katy: That’s so funny. I forget. There’s so much going on in 30 rock. I was just

[00:34:49] Emily: lost in my mind. Yoked density was off the charts. Uh, so yeah, let’s talk about, let’s talk about a cool dry place, I guess, is that we want to talk about your record. Yeah.

[00:35:02] So it’s a great record. Um, I. Found out about the record, because I saw a tweet by you in my timeline. For some reason I was not following you. And I will be honest. I thought you were the other Katie Kirby from Nashville and I was continuing from the records. Yes. Yeah. I was confused by the premise of the tweet, which was that you released a rap record may have sounds that you wrote in college.

[00:35:25] And I thought,

[00:35:29] Katy: right, exactly. Um, a very fun fact is when I was in college, I think I was a sophomore and I was on Twitter. We like followed each other. Cause we were like, oh, ha ha. You’re the other Katie Caribbean Nashville. And like followed each other on Twitter. And I think Instagram and for some reason, because I was a fresh face, like 20 year old or 19 year old or something.

[00:35:53] Um, I was like, we should get coffee and like DMD her. And we did. And she was like extremely lovely. Um, and like kind of gave me some like really good life advice, um, and turned out we are, she grew up like in a town called Friendswood. That’s like 20 minutes from where I grew up in pear land. Whoa. I know, but we’re not related at all.

[00:36:19] We’re very, very confident of that.

[00:36:23] Emily: That makes it weirder that you’re not related at all.

[00:36:27] Katy: Yeah. But she rules just like huge shout out to the other Katie Kirby.

[00:36:32] Emily: Yeah. Yeah. So I said the record, I was like, damn, this is very good. I really appreciate good, uh, lyrical content and, uh, the records really just chock full of it.

[00:36:47] Thank you. So I always love, um, like playfulness and lyrics. Like there there’s lines in that record that are just, uh, smart and funny that are not like overly funny. I think I chuckled the first time I realized listening to fire man about the, the line about, uh, you can’t pin him down because he’s got a tail that he can make fall off.

[00:37:16] I liked that one.

[00:37:17] Katy: Thank you. Honestly, I went back and forth on that one for a cause a couple of people were like, what? Um, yeah, no, thanks for saying that.

[00:37:24] Emily: No. Yeah. I chuckled at that one and you know, it, it’s, it’s very rare. I think that, uh, a song can, can go from being like so many songs on that record can go from being devastating to kind of funny within the same song.

[00:37:39] And uh, yeah, I think there’s a lot to appreciate in those, like on subsequent listens. So a lot of depth, a lot, lots of listened to in 28 minutes on multiple

[00:37:52] Katy: tight,

[00:37:55] Emily: but that’s fine. You know, I’d rather have a type 28 than a meandering thirty-five sure. Totally. Yeah, totally. So Andrew, listen to it for, uh, a couple of go throughs last night. I think

[00:38:07] Andrew: one go through, I had to get to sleep at a reasonable time. They’d listened to that and also listened to, uh, that one of the podcasts that you’ve been on as well and read a couple of articles.

[00:38:19] So I did some, some last minute research, right? Oh,

[00:38:23] Katy: no worries. I don’t know anything about you. Totally square.

[00:38:31] Andrew: Yeah, no, sorry. I was going through all of it. I think. Um, no, it was really struck by kind of your musical journey as, as an artist. Uh, interested to hear more about what that musical journey has looked like from just a more of a culture perspective and less of it, music mechanic perspective.

[00:38:50] But I mean, coming up from a church background, I also come from church background and just kind of that, how that journey has carried over, I think is really fascinating, uh, especially with like some of the lyrical content and super open-ended open-ended question here. So tell me more about that. I want to know

[00:39:11] Katy: totally.

[00:39:12] I mean, I hear your story. Uh, I don’t know if I’ve got like a whole story in response to that, but I do have like a couple of vignettes if that floats your boat. Um, totally. We love it

[00:39:25] Emily: yet.

[00:39:26] Katy: I dude, I love vignette goddamn. Um, I didn’t grow up listening to very much secular music. There are a couple of artist.

[00:39:39] I think probably both live in Nashville, honestly, um, that are like really, really good songwriters, um, that my mom would play in the car. I recall. And like, looking back those, there’s like a handful of those that are really good that like Andrew Peterson, this is like random Christian singer songwriter guy still lives in Nashville.

[00:40:01] I think his songs like my age, but he’s like this very, very smart. And like, like you mentioned, like sort of like, kind of can turn funny, like on a dime. Um, he’s just really, really good. And like in like a crafts men craftsmany way. Um, and so I I’m really glad that that was like, at least one thing that was around when I was growing up, that sort of was a nice, uh, sort of like clear depiction of like song writing.

[00:40:38] Kenneth sort of, um, and I think I got an iPod when I was like 15 and, uh, have like a very loving relationship with the free iTunes singles, um, because of that. Cause I just didn’t know what I wanted to listen to. Um,

[00:41:01] Emily: but yeah,

[00:41:02] Katy: I don’t.

[00:41:04] Emily: Wow. I, I don’t know how

[00:41:09] Katy: like culturally or personally, I could necessarily connect back to

[00:41:20] worship music right now. Um, but it’s, it’s definitely in there, I guess.

[00:41:34] Yeah, totally. I think

[00:41:35] Andrew: it’s actually really funny that you call it the free 18 singles. I had a iPod as well, and, uh, my mom was of the only Christian music variety at the time. My dad of course snuck, um, without consulting her. So, uh, 90 scrunched, some, some Pearl jam, some Nirvana and some sound garden. Um,

[00:41:56] Katy: just

[00:41:57] Emily: Seattle music.

[00:41:57] I’m Seattle music only,

[00:42:00] Andrew: which he wasn’t, he’s not even from here, but our, the iTunes singles part was how I discovered other artists as well outside of that. Uh, it was one of those, like I’m on the computer. I can just quick download that, hide it on my iPad and keep going. Cause it’s not like my mom’s like, Cammie are, I thought, what have you downloaded?

[00:42:17] Um, and yeah, so that’s how I discovered like ed Sheeran. I have a lot of other artists is just the free singles and

[00:42:24] Emily: oh my God, Sharon. Sorry.

[00:42:28] Andrew: Yeah, I downloaded a, the 18.

[00:42:30] Emily: No, no, it’s that I’m thinking. It just reminded me that you’re much younger than I am is what happened right there. 2011, because ed Sheeran hit when I was like out of college, I was like, oh, geez.

[00:42:42] Yeah, no,

[00:42:45] Andrew: well, I just remember like, oh, it’s a song about like drugs and prostitutes and my mom would be horrified workers. Yes. There we go. Okay. There we

[00:42:52] Emily: go. Um, well,

[00:42:55] Andrew: yeah, thank you for the correction on that. Uh, so yeah, no. So I think that’s a very interesting detail in terms of like access to the quote unquote outside world of the bubble that I was in.

[00:43:07] Katy: Oh, totally. I just, I just keep saying this, I want to speak it into existence in this context as well. If I can, I would love if there’s someone out there that wants to make a podcast about like the internal politics of like, who got free iTunes singles at the time, I would listen to that personally. I want to know so bad.

[00:43:27] Cause there must have been so much surely there was so much intrigue over like how Sarah burrows like got that or like ed Sheeran, you know what I mean? Like it wasn’t an accident. I want to know. I want to know the drama.

[00:43:42] Emily: I’m pretty sure that there must have been some big, uh, I suspect their labels pay for it.

[00:43:50] Totally. Yeah. Yeah. I suspect there was a big marketing and yeah. PR I could,

[00:43:56] Katy: I turned those like brokering that specific.

[00:44:00] Emily: Yeah. That stuff

[00:44:03] Katy: probably variable, but it sounds

[00:44:06] Emily: interesting.

[00:44:10] I bet. I bet there was a lot of internal like drama. I bet you know, it wasn’t just one person who got free reign. I bet there was a lot of like angry people about it. I love hearing like a and our AR AR repertoire drama at those meetings. Uh, I, I, I worked for someone after he worked for LA Reed and just like how much LA Reed grew in this man.

[00:44:39] Like I LA Reid was just apparently just a horrible person.

[00:44:46] Andrew: Oh my God. Imagining like this, like apple programming, like a senior program manager or something, get apple that initially signed on to work on safari or one of the other products and got relegated over to iTunes after making a mistake and is now just stuck.

[00:44:59] It’s like, this is part of their program is just like interfacing with record companies and they never had any interest in music to begin with. And that’s just how they landed it.

[00:45:08] Emily: Yeah, I never got a program. So, but I mean, it was the first one to, uh, consolidate music from different record labels onto a device because previously record labels have been just trying to kind of do their own thing and it never really clicked.

[00:45:24] And then apple was the first one to kind of do something that kind of broke her to everything together in a way that clicked with consumers. Um, and a product can be three player. So it wasn’t, it was never that iTunes was the best. It was just that they were kind of the first that, that bridged a gap.

[00:45:46] And then we were stuck with a shitty interface for the rest of eternity.

[00:45:54] Yeah. Mm. And then I had got the joy of like a cruising Caza and thinking I was downloading piano, apple songs when it was definitely not be on apple songs. Giving my grandfather, a computer viruses. Whoops. Whoops.

[00:46:14] Katy: Do you call him

[00:46:14] Emily: Papa? Papa. Okay. He was Paul Paul, Paul, Paul. He was Southern pop Nana and Paul Paul big.

[00:46:24] He had a voice like Foghorn Leghorn.

[00:46:27] Katy: Oh my God. I love Foghorn like one voice,

[00:46:29] Emily: not even an exaggeration, just a little, just a little bit more country and a little bit less Regal of his, of an accent. And that was

[00:46:40] Katy: like takes his time with his role. Yeah,

[00:46:47] Emily: that was big. Well, you know, Wimberley, what we, what you got to do over there?

[00:46:54] Yeah, I can’t do it. Can’t do it. It was a noble effort. You know, you first you got to start smoking when you’re 12, step one. Yeah, except to get a better impression. Sorry. Uh, God, no, he was, he was, he died a couple years ago and he was 79. I think it was born in 30. What year is SuperNet

[00:47:21] Katy: year?

[00:47:22] Emily: Superman of first raise.

[00:47:28] You remember how? 1938.

[00:47:31] Katy: Okay, nice. Yeah. So a little bit, a little

[00:47:32] Emily: bit post. Yeah. Uh, yeah, he had a pet squirrel. He named Cuddy fucked in the bed with him. Oh my that’s some country. Shit.

[00:47:44] Katy: That is some country shit. Well, I feel like there’s more country shit if you just eat the school well,

[00:47:50] Emily: but plenty of, plenty of that touching.

[00:47:53] That’s

[00:47:53] Andrew: why we don’t ask about the possum.

[00:47:59] Emily: Awesome. Um, we got a problem with Eaton.

[00:48:04] Andrew: Uh, no, although that, just now thinking of eating pasta, that reminds me of a, of a poster that was up in the youth group room at my church, which is the, uh, road kill cafe poster, which is, it just said like roadkill cafe, you kill it. We grill it. That’s pretty funny, like a really strange, like, I don’t know what happened to it.

[00:48:23] I don’t know where it came from. Just like vividly. Remember,

[00:48:28] Emily: did you have pigeons are technically feral and not wild animals? Like they’re feral. They cause they used to be kept on rooftops in New York to be consumed like chickens. That’s what they grow so fast as well. You never see a baby pigeon because they just get to age so quickly so you can eat them.

[00:48:49] Hmm. Apparently they’re delicious. My sister-in-law’s, um, culinary expert professionally because she told me. I believe her.

[00:49:00] Andrew: So the, like the culinary Institute of roll tide or something?

[00:49:04] Emily: No, she’s, she’s a pastry chef.

[00:49:09] Andrew: Um, so tell me if I’m, if I’m pressing too hard, if this isn’t worth talking about the moment, I am curious, uh, in like a deconstruction sort of perspective of like exiting the CCM world and getting into the forbidden fruit of the secular world.

[00:49:26] Um, what was like, what was that like for you as an artists? Kind of like step away from that and like dig in, uh, in terms of like, I’m less interested in like wanting, like hearing backlash, I’m more interested about like, what it was like to what that was like for a first time experience, as someone who didn’t experience it growing up and what was like to navigate that

[00:49:49] Katy: world.

[00:49:50] Oh, sure.

[00:49:55] Yeah. So, I mean, like it wasn’t ever like entirely forbidden fruit, I guess, like secular music. It would just like wasn’t around. Uh, and my parents don’t listen to non or didn’t at least listen to secular music growing up, really, except for like, you know, James Taylor, which everybody’s like white parents at least generally are into to some extent.

[00:50:21] Um, but that doesn’t count, but so there was nothing like super forbid in about it. It just wasn’t around. And so whenever I started attending and I, and I didn’t have like a ton of like other people in my life who were like showing me new music before I got to college, there’s definitely a handful and they’re very important.

[00:50:43] But, um, whenever I got to Belmont, just kind of realized like how little I know about like classic rock. Um, and then. I have just sort of absorbed a bunch of that knowledge from knowing boys and

[00:51:03] Emily: boys love to introduce women to the replacements,

[00:51:07] Katy: actually, another, um, another girlfriend of mine introduced me to the replacements and I think the last song that we covered, the last song that we played, like live as a band before the pandemic hit was swinging party, which is a very easy thing to cover because you know, it’s not that hard to sing

[00:51:32] Emily: prettier.

[00:51:32] Then there was actually a girlfriend who introduced me to replacements also. Yeah.

[00:51:37] Katy: Yeah. They, I mean they fucking rule, um, it’s yeah. Uh, no, but totally, but it’s not an ad. It’s just like, oh, well now. No. So goddamn much about Bob Dylan that I never wanted to know. God bless him and yeah. Wilko or whatever. Um, although I do love Loco.

[00:51:58] Emily: I don’t know. Got it. By voice is another one that guys like to introduce

[00:52:00] Katy: girls to. Absolutely. Um, showed me, um, lamb chop, and that was a revelation this past year. I used to see Kurt

[00:52:12] Emily: Wagner at the it’s now Kroger, the Harris Teeter, and he was a Harris Teeter at the time in Hillsboro village. I used to see him there all the time.

[00:52:23] Katy: So I Ms. Harris

[00:52:23] Emily: Teeter. I have this Harris Teeter the one by Brown’s diner though. Uh, the Kroger by brown Steiner. You see him there. Uh, buddy and Jim Lauderdale. Awesome.

[00:52:42] Buddy. Hey, Hey buddy. You’d be like, fuck.

[00:52:45] Katy: I forgot about Brown’s diner. I’m going to go back there while I’m in town. I’m asking for a friend cause me know

[00:52:57] Emily: if

[00:52:57] anywhere.

[00:52:58] Katy: Yeah. That’s kinda mine. Yeah.

[00:53:00] Emily: Okay, cool. If anywhere I would go there with my roommate, Dan, and then Dan loved to put his foot in his mouth and restaurants.

[00:53:09] Once we went to princes and he asked for, he said, can I get a medium, but can you make sure it’s a real medium, last time I got a medium and it was pretty mild and this may have barely made it back to the house before he just, he, he, he, he threw the car in park. Through the door open, ran to the house and ran straight to the bathroom with the car.

[00:53:31] Like he barely made it back when Brown’s diner, he was like, can you just, can I get a burger bun? So I, you know, usually put the toppings on the bottom. Can you just, I just think, yeah, I really want have that. Like, he just wanted it while you want. And I respect that. I’m like, it’s, Brown’s diner, not red, Robin Dan trouble asking for trouble.

[00:53:54] Yeah.

[00:53:54] Andrew: Don’t piss off the people that make your food.

[00:53:58] Emily: I’m like, damn, these burgers are $2 and 15

[00:54:00] Katy: cents. He told me if you want to

[00:54:04] Andrew: rearrange it yourself after it’s made it to your

[00:54:06] Emily: table, don’t ask for substitutions. Just ask for it. Not to be raw in the middle. Um, don’t ask for much. Yeah. Um, I mean, I have some, uh, some questions about the records and comments.

[00:54:18] Um, uh, you, you talk on some interviews, um, Andrew’s talking about. Questions about the CCN background. You talk a little bit more about being inspired melodically by CCM. I think that kind of stuff just gets sort of ingrained in you and you kind of gravitate toward melodies and harmonies. Um, do you, you were talking about the Beatles a little bit earlier because your producer came in and grabbed some book about the Beatles, the Beatles.

[00:54:47] I know they do a lot. And I was wondering if this was kind of your idea or if this was even intentional, the Beatles would do things like they’ll sing about breaking glass and then you’ll hear glass break. Uh, I’m just blanking on song title right now. Oh, Juniper, no Juniper. Um, there’s a line, uh, the difference between lightning, rain and thunder, and then you sing in thunder again, and those harmonies are so tight.

[00:55:15] It almost sounds staticky. Was that intentional or was that just a happy? Okay.

[00:55:23] Katy: But there is a breaking glass sound at the end of eyelids, um, which goes right into Juniper. And that was Logan’s idea. I believe who is obsessed with the Beatles, like the most obsessed. I know someone about the Beatles because I have known him for five years.

[00:55:46] It makes me very upset. Sometimes there’s all this knowledge in my brain. I never asked for like that episode of 30 rock where, uh, Liz lemon keeps saying things like about the Kardashian. And then she’s like, why do I know that, you know what I’m talking about? It’s like a

[00:56:01] Emily: little bit of brokering, but it’s very much like that.

[00:56:06] I get that. Yeah. But, um, that’s yeah, not intentional. Very cool moment. Um, and then there, there, there are other kinds of recurring themes. There’s a lyric theme. Lyrical recurring theme about oranges does happen twice on.

[00:56:23] Katy: So cute accident. I know. Yeah. It’s adorable. It’s like fruit gets referenced so much, like what’s going on with my brain there.

[00:56:29] I have no idea why I wrote those songs like years apart, I think. Really? Yeah. Yeah. I mean like one, the, the, one of the, so blah, blah, both of them, I guess, are based on things that just occurred naturally. Um, bought my friends from fruit once when he was very sick, because, you know, we were like 19 and, uh, he didn’t have things that were ramen noodles in his house.

[00:57:01] And so I went to the Harris Teeter and brought him back like a variety bag of fruit and oranges and stuff. So that was just that in tap twice. Um, in cool dry place. I was writing a little bit about, um, this person that I had toured. And while we were touring, it was very short, but like someone had brought like a bag of little Mandarin oranges and like every like hour or 90 minutes or so, like, I would like open one up and like pass around pieces individually to like the four people in the car.

[00:57:39] And that’s how I learned that there were like 10 segments in an orange because it was never even, and I did that so many times. I don’t know. That’s so like, not really, I don’t know. They’re just, I, I eat oranges sometimes in my life is the answer.

[00:57:57] Emily: But now, then now, now I know there are 10 pieces of an orange.

[00:58:02] Katy: Yeah. There really are. It’s remarkably consistent.

[00:58:06] Emily: Yeah. That’s interesting. Now I’m going to, that’s just going to be a thing I know. Yeah, because you have it in a song on jeopardy.

[00:58:19] Katy: I hope so

[00:58:21] Emily: maybe, maybe Seattle light, uh, Ken Jennings will be hosting or something. Totally. Well, um, I want to be respectful of your time. I’m sure you’re busy getting ready for tour. Um, anything you want to shout out? I know you’re going on tour. I know that some of a couple of those days still have some tickets available, but it’s okay.

[00:58:42] A

[00:58:42] Katy: couple. Yeah, a couple of them do. Um, they’re all vacs required and mask required except for where it, that is illegal, um, in various states. But I mean, honestly, please be cool. I guess if we’re not in the states anyway. Um, but I, I do think there’s like a handful that are, are not sold out.

[00:59:06] Emily: Um, one up in lock.

[00:59:08] Yeah. Cause of recording. Let me pull that up for you just to.

[00:59:17] For dates that are still available as of recording. Oh my God. Nope. That’s

[00:59:23] Katy: not, I don’t have it. I can’t find it.

[00:59:28] Emily: Sorry.

[00:59:30] Andrew: Anyways, to all the listeners out there at strong recommend, just look up the tour and see what the closest city is for you.

[00:59:37] Emily: Uh, Louisville, Kentucky, headliner and music hall, Cincinnati, Ohio.

[00:59:40] That’s where I’m from a runner pub free show. I love the motor. Yes.

[00:59:47] Katy: I,

[00:59:49] Emily: I don’t know

[00:59:49] Katy: if I played there before, but yeah, I really like Cincinnati.

[00:59:52] Emily: It’s actually a really cool place. I do like ice cream. Yes. I recommend getting some grader’s ice cream while you’re

[00:59:59] Katy: there. Okay. Noted.

[01:00:02] Emily: Yeah. Um, Melville, Pennsylvania, Detroit, Madison, Wisconsin, Chicago, Illinois, Minneapolis Spokane, Seattle.

[01:00:13] I’d love to come over. So I think Tacoma is actually sold out by now. Uh, so yeah, check out. Some of these shows, lots of sold out actually. Um, and the records available wherever fine records are available. This is true. Buying records is always recommended. I’ve honored. Thanks. Um, and thank you so much, Katie.

[01:00:38] Always nice to meet new people and, um, to everyone out there. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Thanks for understanding until next time. My name is Evelyn. My name is Andrew .