This week, Emily talks about rebuilding her pedalboard for upcoming gigs (fingers crossed) and Andrew talks about redecorating his office. The two talk about how being on the internet can lead to feelings of jealousy and how some people really doing do a great job dealing with those feelings. Then Emily explains why “just be cool” is actually super sage advice.
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[00:00:00] That’s
[00:00:03] Emily: working.
[00:00:07] I can hear it. It’s your turn by the way.
[00:00:15] Andrew: But get off set podcast. My name is
[00:00:18] Emily: Andrew and my name is Emily, and I’m going to edit that out. So nobody knows what happened that made you pause.
[00:00:28] Andrew: They’ll never be able to guess that the music restarted itself and you know,
[00:00:33] Emily: he’s alive.
[00:00:37] Andrew: Um, I I’ve been accused of many things and that’s not even the worst of
[00:00:41] Emily: them.
[00:00:41] So nobody’s ever accused you of lying. Never. No, you definitely wouldn’t have lied about that.
[00:00:49] Andrew: No, no,
[00:00:52] Emily: never lied. No, no. I, the, the intro research, I don’t know how to turn off that infinity symbol. So
[00:01:02] it’s big.
[00:01:04] Andrew: It is what it is. I’m
[00:01:05] Emily: not too worried about it. It happened. It’s behind us. It’s officially behind us. That’s that’s totally fine. That’s totally fine. It’s okay. It’s okay. But now
[00:01:13] Andrew: like physically behind his band, but like in the timeline of eternity,
[00:01:17] Emily: bro, time is a flat circle. Speaking of which the mask mandates back in Washington, I’m fine with that, honestly, like sure.
[00:01:29] Andrew: I, it doesn’t bother me if I’m being clear.
[00:01:32] Emily: It is, it is what it is. I kind of barely stopped wearing masks, honestly.
[00:01:36] Andrew: No, the only place that it’s going to take some getting used to again, wearing a mask and doors is the gym is that’s. That’s not fun. Like I recognize I’m still getting the oxygen that I need.
[00:01:50] It’s not about that. It’s more about like breathing in really hard to tasting my mouth.
[00:01:55] Emily: Yeah. Like the, the, the ones that have kind of more like shape and form are a lot better. Like, do you have one of the, uh, under Armour ones that kind of has more form?
[00:02:04] Andrew: No, I’ve just been wearing, um, disposable masks. Uh, no, I usually just wear surgical
[00:02:12] Emily: masks in there and those will come right back for it right into your mouth
[00:02:15] Andrew: hole.
[00:02:16] Step one was like acclimating him mask is acclimating to the smell of your own breath. And then step two, the gym apparently is tasting your own breath. And I don’t recommend, especially first thing in the morning. I usually haven’t. This is probably too much information. I don’t. If I roll out of bed at 5 45 in the morning and get to the
[00:02:35] Emily: gym, we just avoid it though.
[00:02:37] Um, I wanted to hear about what your breath tastes like, dude. I’m not, I’m not your wife. I’m trying to enjoy my breakfast smoothie. What I’m
[00:02:46] Andrew: trying to say is I brush my teeth after I get home from the gym,
[00:02:49] Emily: but it’s too early. No, it’s not. Yeah. Dude, you’re just brush your teeth when you wake up. It’s like, you’re good.
[00:03:02] Especially if you’re like a mouth breather at night, which I, all of us are at some point nasty.
[00:03:09] Andrew: Add that to the list of things I’ve been accused of. Now.
[00:03:14] Emily: I’ve been good. I’ve been good. You know, I’ve, uh, Um, the Sunday crush show at Connor burn on Saturday, the 28th is officially on very excited. Um, we’re really feeling good about the mask mandate for that one.
[00:03:30] Um, Feeling more confident had had a rehearsal kind of working through the set list. Got to practice again a couple more times just to get ready for that show. Um, then I have another show with Jeff playing bass as a tractor Tavern on the second. So we’re gonna have, uh, a busy, a busy week, uh, for shows and then, uh, a little break.
[00:03:56] A little break. So, uh, it’s gonna be gonna be good. Um, I’m excited, uh, to play in front of human beings. It was interesting. What’s kind of wild is that even though the Sunday crush record came out on black Friday last year, we’ve never played those songs in front of people. We haven’t played the songs in front people since the album came out, we played them in front of people, lots of times before the album came out, but not sense.
[00:04:19] So like, if you’re in Seattle, please come out, show us some love. Um, backs or negative COVID tests in the past 48 hours and mass are required. And, um, we’ll have Merck March. Yes. So we’re, we’re thrilled. Um, we might throw in some fun, this Daljit covers and then there’s going to be some new stuff, probably.
[00:04:43] So, oh yes, you have my intrigue. On three. Yes. Yes. So that’s, that’s just part of my what’s new. Um, today I’m going to be auditioning a new drive section from a Sunday crush pedal. So I think I’m going to try to film a video, uh, based around that right now. Most of last year, I had the, uh, chase bliss, uh, Benson collab, the, um, automaton mark too.
[00:05:13] Um, but just because I am playing some outdoor gigs, this, this fall, um, in some bargain gigs like that, that was so great for the live streams, uh, to have that much control. It’s such, you know, a nice pedal that I think I’d rather place, um, some kind of more robot. Pedals. Um, I don’t, I don’t really want to put that one in risk, so I’m going for the place of that one.
[00:05:40] I can sit a couple of other dirt pedals need to put a fun little filter pedal and
[00:05:48] Andrew: no
[00:05:48] Emily: I’m going to message them and see if I can get one. Um, cause I have that and I also have their reverb unit that I never filmed a demo because I’ve bought it. Uh, so I, yeah, that’s very much a studio tool. Oh God. It is so beautiful. God. Um, so, uh, and people have been asking me for a while to do a video about the Sunday crush pedalboard so I am finally going to do that.
[00:06:18] Um, Figure out a way to film that because it’s a pretty big pedal board because of course my amp is basically on the board. Um, when I say big, I don’t mean a lot of stuff on it. It’s like numerically. It’s just, uh it’s because right now. Yeah, cause I, I tried to like do a lot with a little, so I have the Ernie ball, uh, volume pedal Jr.
[00:06:46] Um, right now I have. I have the Crowder hotcake driving the, uh, the chase bliss, uh, preempt mark two, going into the summersault by Caroline. And then I have the Enzo. And then I also did the, uh, preset controller for the Enzo going into the milkman. And that’s the entire, that’s it. That’s everything. So there you go.
[00:07:13] Yeah. And I asked her to change the, uh, the right now I have the, um, Plate reverb on the milkman. I want to make sure I get that back to the spring reverb.
[00:07:22] Andrew: Well, there you go.
[00:07:24] Emily: Yeah. Yeah. And then I got, I bought as my, this is my last thing. Oh, it’s not my last thing I kind of have. I can’t I got some, I got some listening.
[00:07:35] Okay. I have, I got the Beavis and Burkhead Linda’s edition, uh, uh, big ear pedal with limited edition artwork to Beavis and Butthead sand distortion pedal. I forget the exact causes went to, but it was a charity pedal. So I was excited to buy it and look at my, can you see and read my serial number on it?
[00:07:59] Yep. 60 C H nine. And they sent me 69.
[00:08:06] Thank you grant. And Karen, I feel, I feel blessed by that number. And then I also got the official rocket music ear strap. Nice here that has all their pedals on it. So thank you. I’m very happy. But, um, the last thing, the last thing I have to cover, because I’m just such a fucking idiot. Oh my God, dude. So our, um, Patrion supporter, David, if she’s okay.
[00:08:34] Like a year ago had sent me his submarine pickup and he said, oh, just hold onto it for as long as you need it. It’s also content. It’ll be really fun since the grant Karen, when you’re done, I was like, cool. Yeah, I will thank you so much. It’s really nice of you. And then I didn’t that I ever filmed it because I got real busy and uh, my gosh, I’m just so stupid.
[00:09:00] And I, uh, misplaced. And then he had, uh, like, Hey, my brother is getting into guitar or something. Can you send it back? And I was like, okay. I know it was in my house. Uh, so then I was like, I just, I just want to get it back to him. I ordered a new one and I had been looking for the box that you shipped it in because obviously you shipped it in a bigger box than it came in.
[00:09:27] Um, I couldn’t find it. And I knew that Rick and I had moved a bunch of boxes. So I was like, kind of like, well, it’s in my house. So I know if I order new one, the best, the worst case scenario is I own one now, like that’s the only scenario that I own one now. And like, literally the moment I see the box that comes in and I opened the box and I see it, I’m like, I looked to my right.
[00:09:53] I’m like, damn it’s I see. Yeah. Yep. And I open it and I know that I’d opened this box before and I had seen this little cloth and I thought that ADA and I just, instead of like looking through the box, taking the thing off and seeing that, obviously it was in there. I just put the lid back on the box.
[00:10:15] Like a frigging idiot could save myself 20 pounds. But now I have it. So I’m going to, I’m going to try to do some fun stuff with that this weekend. I still can’t find the OSI five that I loaned you and that you gave me back. So I’ve
[00:10:32] Andrew: and I’ve gone. I actually just rearranged my office. I
[00:10:35] Emily: know things, I know you gave it back because I remember thinking, I thought you were holding onto that for a while longer.
[00:10:41] So it’s probably like, I probably got like moved under my sofa, honestly. Like it probably just is under there somewhere. Fair enough. That’s not a big deal. I’m just, I feel like a dweeb.
[00:10:54] Andrew: Well, now you just have an excuse to film a video using two submarines.
[00:10:59] Emily: I know I’m excited. I think that I’m going to do, like, I, I borrowed back, uh, another, I have another Octa pedal.
[00:11:07] So I’m obviously going to do like some bass string octave stuff. Sure. Um, I’m, I’m open to suggestions on what to do with the other one. Behind the pickup behind the, uh, behind the bridge
[00:11:21] Andrew: there. Yeah. That’s actually,
[00:11:23] Emily: what should I do is behind the bridge, maybe the microcosms
[00:11:31] Andrew: that would be neat. Just kind of get some pad going under, underneath everything. So like sub pad, I think that’d be really fun to do for like some fingerstyle ambient.
[00:11:46] Emily: Yeah, I think I have a lot of options, but I’m, it’s, it’s going to be just like so many cables coming out of the guitar I’m going to need to get, like, I have the, um, I wish I was mashing the effects still made the album as, because it really was such a neat little device.
[00:12:02] And I have the split meld from old blood and I have another ABBYY splitter. I probably have several APY splitters actually. The utility stuff, like you just really can’t have enough of those kinds of huddles.
[00:12:21] Andrew: Agreed.
[00:12:22] Emily: Yeah. I can even just put them into a couple of different amps or signal chains and have, uh, you know, I have plenty of inputs in my, um, audio interface, so yeah.
[00:12:39] So many
[00:12:39] Andrew: options, options, options, options,
[00:12:42] Emily: options, options, options.
[00:12:49] Well, fortunately I knew I
[00:12:52] Andrew: rearranged my office again. Um, so I, I mean, so you’ll see that the couches and behind me anymore.
[00:13:01] Emily: I miss the couch being behind you, but I get needing to have a couch.
[00:13:04] Andrew: I have moved it over here, which is where my work bench was. I put my work bench underneath the window, uh, over here.
[00:13:12] And I, after looking around, I also had a big old bookshelf right here. So I pulled the bookshelf out entirely. The bookshelf was like at the end of my desk. So I couldn’t even access the bottom half of the show.
[00:13:24] Emily: Yeah. And it just,
[00:13:27] Andrew: this is such a small room that having something so tall made it feel like a much smaller room.
[00:13:34] And we wanted to put that in the living room. So we’ve now put in the living room and we can access the shelves sort of. So it’s that, we’re up against the couch in the living room and then six out, just enough to where the bottom shelf is now a hidden cat bed
[00:13:47] Emily: area. Oh yeah. I like that kind of dealio.
[00:13:51] Yeah. Yeah.
[00:13:53] Andrew: And so, so I moved the work bench over here and I just needed to take the end off the it’s a modular pen, so I can take like the it’s got like wings extendible wings to make it longer or shorter. So I just need to adjust that. But now I can have my work bench here. I’ve moved the couch over here and that freedom, this wall.
[00:14:09] And I don’t know if you’ll see this in the camera shot. Oh, maybe barely. But my amp is down there. Nice. Right in front of an outlet. One of two outlets in this room that actually has a ground plug.
[00:14:24] Emily: Um, so is your house kinda old?
[00:14:28] Andrew: Yeah. I’ve like two thirds, three quarters of the outlets in the house. Don’t have a Chrome plug.
[00:14:33] There’s usually only one per
[00:14:34] Emily: room. Yeah. I, um, in my house in Nashville, I had to buy some, uh, converters.
[00:14:42] Andrew: Right. Which aren’t necessarily the safest things, but,
[00:14:46] Emily: well, I, yeah.
[00:14:50] Andrew: And he was the whole point of this being exciting is a couple of things is one. If I’ve got someone like a friend over, like I’ve had a couple of friends over the last couple of months, like, oh yeah, let’s go hang out in the office.
[00:14:59] And then like, I’ll sit here and then I’ll want to like, show them something on the computer. And they’re sitting right behind me going. Yeah.
[00:15:10] W what are we looking at? So now having, like having it right here now I can pretend like I’m their therapist. Um, yeah, it’s a much more collaborative space. Downside is this won’t be as useful for sitting down and watching TV since I don’t have a TV, therefore, this is my
[00:15:26] Emily: TV. Yeah. I like having my, my, um, sofa is over there.
[00:15:33] And so like, I can swivel my monitor over that direction. And I’ve done that before. Yeah. So I can, I can still do my monitor. I can, uh, pivot my. One of my JBL speakers that way too, so I can hear everything that’s going on. So I just kinda turn it all. Um, I’ve done some, like listening to some presentations and stuff that way done like a Hulu show on my lunch break or whatever that way, if I really wanted to like vibe, but I liked doing that because if I have somebody over, I can just like, kind of move the monitor over like, oh, Hey, like, let me show you how this is working out.
[00:16:14] And just kinda like. Shuffle it over to show them where they can like grab a chair and they can sit next to me if they need to, um, that kind of thing. Or we can just be like talking and kind of going over ideas, like lay that down. Let’s just discuss it. So at least you can like kind of like pivot and talk more easily versus somebody is behind you.
[00:16:33] So I love that idea. I think it’s great.
[00:16:35] Andrew: Yep. I’m a, I’m pretty hyped on it, actually. Yeah. Um, So, and I had a friend over a couple of nights ago as well to, uh, to chat about some Fox Cairo stuff. And, uh, yeah, we were able to like, sit down like, oh yeah, here you go. And they just like tilted the monitor and here’s this and here’s this.
[00:16:53] And just showing them everything that I do, uh, for the business. And yeah, I mean, it was just a much better feel. Now, downside is I’ve now taken out a bookshelf, which is storage space and I then rearranged everything. And I’ve only hung up one shelf to add to space, to make up for it. So, I mean, you can sort of see the chaos a little bit, peeking out the edges of my camera here.
[00:17:21] Farther outside of the camera. It’s a little chaotic in here, but I think by the end of the weekend, I can have this back into a functional space again, and the hope, and I think the reasonable outcome here is going to be that this is a much more functional space, which will free me up to not be constrained by my space.
[00:17:42] Emily: I, I feel that my, my space is essentially like, It it undulates, it will go pretty frequently from being like it’s pretty much always functional, like from what people see on screen, but just off screen, it can, it’s pretty disastrous sometimes like right now, because I’m about, I’m going to film this weekend.
[00:18:06] A couple of. Interesting videos that I haven’t kind of filmed that kind of content before the audition videos. So that’s going to obviously involve pulling things on and off of pedal boards or putting things in an order, uh, taking them out, taking them in. So I have like a couple pedal boards out, cause I want to build a little bitty baseboard for jury situations.
[00:18:32] Um, and that’s going to involve like a, I K. For at least one of the shows. So I’m going to have the, um, I think it’s called the downtown express, the offender, um, based workstation kind of thing. I’m going to probably have a dry pedal on that as well. I don’t love the overdrive on that pedal, but I really liked the compressor on it and the EEQ, um, in the mute and the tuner out.
[00:19:03] So obviously I need those three. I need at least three titles on that board, perhaps a filter for one of the songs and who could kind of benefit from some sort of filter. Um, and then the Sunday crush video, of course. And then I might do a third kind of mini mini ESC board. Um, I’m thinking I want to have another board kind of built around a tone master amp that I might be getting, because I think it would be cool to have like a lightweight app.
[00:19:34] Instead of just like the DIY amp with the cab that I use sometimes. And those do have digital spring river, which I think sounds pretty good, but you know, I have the, it’s not visible in this video. It’s visible a lot of videos, the surfing cane real spring reverb. Right. I’d love to have that on a board and kind of build a board around that in a log spring reverb unit.
[00:19:58] Because if you can have like this like super river. It has like a pretty good sounding tremolo. And you can just like make up for the fact that it has a digital spring that not everybody likes and drop in this analytics spring unit that you already have. Like, why the hell wouldn’t you build like an entire board around that unit?
[00:20:20] Yeah. Yeah, why wouldn’t I at least so, I mean, I have that other, uh, fender case, the Tweed case that fits that, um, medium sized Squatch board that I have. Um, yeah. And then I have the fender, uh, engine room level 10 level, level eight that has a, the 12 fold outs. And that’s what the, uh, um, surfy bear runs on.
[00:20:45] So I’m like, I have. Like everything. I need to run that, um, effectively more than effectively. So, um, like I, you know, if I get things on boards that I get, I’m getting them off of walls. So, uh, yeah, I I’ve, I’ve lots of plans this weekend. I’m also going to hopefully, uh, clear up my work bench in the garage.
[00:21:10] It was kind of a mess in there. I had to get a new boxing bag. Um, the one that I got through fight camp was a dud. I can’t, I don’t really want to get too into it cause no one gives a shit about my boxing regimen, but, um, Basically it wasn’t pulling down over the base and it wasn’t my fault. And the new one, they sent us pulls down perfectly over the base.
[00:21:31] So, uh, there’s going to be a lot less moving the bag, moving around the garage while I’m working out, which will be fantastic. But, um, it was kind of a wreck in there. I think
[00:21:42] Andrew: you’re just too strong and it’s just, that’s what’s causing the backing of around guns.
[00:21:46] Emily: Yep. Yeah. Oh my God.
[00:21:52] Andrew: Earthquake duck for cover.
[00:22:03] Emily: Mm mm mm. Mm. Close enough. Sure. Alright. Um, don’t remember what I was talking about, but.
[00:22:16] Andrew: Well, glad to hear that you survived the earthquake. That was frightening. It’s amazing. I also didn’t feel it over here.
[00:22:25] Emily: Uh, yeah, we’re editing that out, but, uh, the clamp
[00:22:30] Andrew: a little bit of it.
[00:22:34] Emily: Yeah. My webcam fell. Oh, well,
[00:22:41] Hm,
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[00:23:22] Andrew: Is the, is the wiggles cover going to be only for patrons?
[00:23:27] Emily: I think so. I think that’s fair. I think that’s fair.
[00:23:31] Andrew: I think if you want to be able to hear the nonsense, that’s in progress right now. Um, yeah. We’re not sharing this with everybody. I think that’s reasonable.
[00:23:42] Emily: I think that’s fair because they’re the ones who made it happen.
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[00:24:21] Andrew: Both of those are excellent ideas.
[00:24:24] Emily: Yeah, I think you can also subscribe on Spotify and all that stuff, but yeah, whatever. Um, cool. And this, uh, episode get off set is sponsored by Caroline guitar company. Uh, I had mentioned earlier that there’s somersault is on the official city crush a board, um, both myself and my basis used the somersaults and it is pretty essential for the Sunday crush sound.
[00:24:46] At this point, it is a chorus and Vibra auto and it is just a wonderful pedal. It’s very underrated on base. I wish more people would play it on base. Um, it just is surprisingly good. It’s very lush. Sure. Lovely chorus sounds so check that out for guitarists and basis all over the world. Caroline guitar company corporation.
[00:25:18] We do know there we do go there. So, um, this week, uh, was an interesting week for one of my friends, another Emily H this Emily H is not a guitarist. She is a harvest, and you may know her as Emily harvest. She has a YouTube channel and she went viral this week. She is a video that has well over half a million views at this point.
[00:25:50] Oh, yeah, we really have to be specific in this day and age don’t we? But, uh, she had a, a video where she was playing, uh, an electric. I believe it was an electric foods pedal, perhaps some other distortion pedals, uh, through her harp. And it got on the first page of the nerdiness of Yahoo news was covered a lot of places.
[00:26:14] I went into, um, band practice for my Americano. Uh, where I play bass juror and the singer Jeff came in and he was talking about how he saw it was really cool video of who was playing on, uh, distortion pellets or a harp. I was like, Emily. Yeah. He’s like, yeah. Yeah. Oh, Emily. We tell him we’re friends. Yeah.
[00:26:34] We’re friends. He’s like, oh God, I just love her. I’m like, yeah, we, we talk like, we talk a lot. We talk pretty much every day. He’s like, oh, so your friend’s friends. And I told her and she, she thought it was funny and she sent a message to him on Instagram. And it just like made his fucking day. He was, he was more impressed that I knew her then like with me in general, I was like, ah, okay.
[00:26:58] I
[00:26:58] Andrew: see.
[00:27:01] Emily: Yeah. Sometimes you have to just to prove that I was like being honest, but, but, um, you know, when success like that comes, um, a lot of really rude and mean comments. And of course her video was no exception. Most of the comments were. And extremely supportive and enthusiastic and people will just love it.
[00:27:26] They thought it was funny. It sounded great. It was so cool. And there’ve been like tick-tock duets that were really cool and that she was sharing and just like I’ve seen such great stuff come out of this video. Um, and I’ve seen some really mean comments come out of this video. Uh, things like ranging from general massage, Annie too.
[00:27:47] Uh, like, uh, oh, I bet her boyfriend made her do this. She can’t even play. I’m like, you can listen to this and be like, this can play. Like,
[00:27:59] Andrew: have you ever tried to play a heart?
[00:28:01] Emily: Yes, it is the hall art. Yes.
[00:28:05] Andrew: I’ve tried once and I like in like 30 seconds, like, oh my, no,
[00:28:11] Emily: no, you can, like, you can pick up a guitar and you can learn.
[00:28:15] Three chords in 30 minutes and be able to struggle through like jumper blind. Yeah. Yeah. You can like learn a song on guitar in an hour. I am not confident you can do that with the heart. Well,
[00:28:30] Andrew: it is for me, like, I remember like trying to like sit there. I’m not even sure what I’m supposed to hold. I just assume something.
[00:28:35] I think
[00:28:35] Emily: it’s like this. I think, I think your left hand is closer to your
[00:28:38] Andrew: body.
[00:28:41] Emily: So it’s like a, it’s like south pasta.
[00:28:44] Andrew: Hmm, there we go. Uh, but I remember like the more I looked,
[00:28:52] Emily: the more
[00:28:53] Andrew: I looked at the, at the strings, the more lost I was because there’s so many of them, like, I don’t know if this is like a weird, like, like I don’t actually have dyslexia, but like, I imagine it’s kind of like the same, like, I couldn’t keep track of like, what was where, and at a certain point, I just like, had to like close my eyes and like, all right, there’s that one?
[00:29:11] There’s that one? Just like, kind of get the feel for it. I was completely lost. I say, get the feel for it. I mean, like I managed to hit like the string I was intending to hit, even if it makes sense.
[00:29:23] Emily: Yeah, no, I mean, it’s, it’s something that like is a Testament to practice and skill and dedication to do, to be able to, to make harp your livelihood the way Emily has.
[00:29:35] And, uh, to, to say, to say something like that. Any comment that implies that she’s not a real musician is laughable and, um, and cruel. And there’s no reason to say that kind of thing. And it, it can only stem from a place of just jealousy and envy at her at her success. And I think that is really the only logical explanation for it.
[00:30:04] And it just really is a reminder, a stark reminder of. Anytime there is success anywhere. There are going to be people who are envious of that success, and it really comes out the more, the more you have. And anytime you do get a little bit of haters on the internet, you can be pretty sure. That, especially when there’s also a lot, what it’s like a 90 10 ratio where most of what you’re seeing is love.
[00:30:35] And then everyone’s still, while you’re seeing someone who is just saying something that’s like laughably bad and so different than everybody else, it’s a pretty, that’s a pretty clear indication that someone is just extremely jealous.
[00:30:48] Andrew: Totally. But I mean, If it’s just like a handful of people who are upset, does that really have any impact on your platform?
[00:30:56] If you’re like, why not just drown out the, just focus on the other 90%. ‘
[00:31:02] Emily: cause cause you, yeah, cause you’re a human being and words where it’s hurt. No. And, uh, it takes a lot of time and energy. And uh, for me personally, for me personally, therapy, uh, to get past like, uh, those kinds of words hurting and like being able to come to grips with the fact that like, Hurtful and hateful words don’t matter as much.
[00:31:30] And as someone who’s going to be cruel to you, well, then fuck them. Uh, they don’t matter. And, uh, it just, it takes a very long time and I don’t think everybody even gets there to the point where. It
[00:31:46] Andrew: doesn’t. Oh, I mean, that’s why a lot of celebrities don’t read their comment
[00:31:50] Emily: sections. Yeah. Yeah. That’s true.
[00:31:53] And you know,
[00:31:54] Andrew: I mean, what does it mean. I think that’s
[00:31:58] Emily: like a Jimmy Kimmel thing. Yeah. Cause they read me and things about themselves.
[00:32:02] Andrew: I haven’t read the tweets that people like, right. Like angry tweets about them that are, that
[00:32:06] Emily: are floating out there. Some do some don’t, uh, some people just still eat them.
[00:32:11] As soon as they see them. Some people will respond to them. Some people invite them. Ryan Burke invites them. You know, it’s like we’ve done troll series before and supposed to get them worse than others. You know, I all get them as bad as some other women on the internet, get them. Uh, some pages seem to just attract them more than other pages.
[00:32:30] Um, you know, my, my general response to mean tweets and sometimes, sometimes I’m in the mood to kind of like respond to them more, uh, than others. It, but my general response is just thanks for watching. Generally it’s like jokes on you. I got your, yeah. You know, thanks for leaving the comment because YouTube doesn’t really differentiate, like you’re hateful ass comment to a positive one.
[00:32:57] We should eat it. Doesn’t usually doesn’t differentiate your downvote for an APOE engagements, engagement. YouTube. Doesn’t give a shit and neither do I particularly, right. Um,
[00:33:07] Andrew: and traffic is traffic. The more clicks you get, the more money you get. If, if you’re, if you’re on YouTube, if
[00:33:12] Emily: I, yeah. It’s, I mean, it’s not a lot of money.
[00:33:15] Be honest, it’s like, you know,
[00:33:16] Andrew: for free for you, but I’m sure you, YouTube is making a lot more money off of free videos than you are for being really honest.
[00:33:23] Emily: Yeah. Yeah. YouTube is definitely making more money off me than I’m making off YouTube. So, I mean, it’s just so, but like getting back to it, like. It, it, it, it, it’s very easy in normal to be jealous of someone else’s success.
[00:33:44] I mean, it’s, it’s a very natural human reaction to like once what you don’t have, which reminds me remember, remember when I, I have released the week, the video about my guitar is falling off the wall and someone commented, like if you covet your guitars and why did you hang them? And I kept saying, how can I covet something?
[00:34:02] That’s mine. And then he kept saying like, he kept using the word covet wrong, right. Like to covet. And I, and it was just like yesterday, he, he I’m like, oh, he read the first like covet the neighbor’s wife, as in love, thy neighbor’s wife and not want what is not yours. Like he just did not crack open the OED on that one.
[00:34:30] Like, just read a dictionary on that one.
[00:34:34] Andrew: Merriam Webster clean up in aisle four paging Merriam-Webster Tzu, aisle four for a wet cleanup.
[00:34:41] Emily: And just to be clear to listeners, to covet means to want something that is not yours and is in fact someone else’s and like in a very yearning sort of way to yearn for something that is not yours, but it’s someone else’s.
[00:34:55] It does not mean to love. So I cannot, you, you literally cannot covet something that belongs to you. That is like, you cannot, that is not possible.
[00:35:08] Andrew: For instance, like I can say that I covet your baritone Telecaster
[00:35:13] Emily: Capitol way, but obviously,
[00:35:16] Andrew: because I’m a good boy, but I have reasonable sense of boundaries.
[00:35:24] The point is, is that, that is how that works. Yeah,
[00:35:28] Emily: I did buy that. So Josie,
[00:35:32] Andrew: um,
[00:35:33] Emily: Hey jealousy. He great song. I do love the gin blossoms. Um, so it’s like, it’s really normal to like, COVID and it’s normal to have jealousy. Um, and I haven’t really, you know, like I see, I see other channels sometimes. Uh, like I see them, um, premiering having premieres that are opportunities that I didn’t get.
[00:35:59] And I’m like, oh, it would be really cool to get that. And it’s just really important for me to remind myself, I have opportunities that they don’t have, you know, You know, I I’ve had really cool opportunities. I got to be in the pedal movie and that was, uh, you know, an opportunity. A lot of other people didn’t get a lot of channels are bigger than us didn’t get, which I’m sure, you know, there are a lot of people who thought and said very vocally that I didn’t deserve, which is.
[00:36:23] My boyfriend made me do it. Don’t tell my husband, oh God, don’t tell my husband. Um, and you know, I have the great relationships with really cool brands that I am just so happy with and I don’t want for a lot. And so when I do get those feelings, I just kind of say to myself, Hey, it’s really cool that like my friends and these people, I respect a lot are getting these really cool opportunities.
[00:36:51] I’m just like, Like focusing on myself and what I’m doing and, uh, make other opportunities happen for me. And, you know, frankly, if my friends have opportunities and I kind of also have those opportunities, I’m not that embarrassed to ask them if they feel comfortable introducing me to similar opportunities.
[00:37:15] And the worst thing that they’ll say is no. Yeah. And that’s fine. Yeah. I think that a lot of people are just afraid of asking politely, just very politely ask the worst thing that someone can say is no. And yeah, I
[00:37:33] Andrew: think the way to convince them is just a tear them down for what they already have. And then they’ll, they’ll want to share.
[00:37:39] Emily: Yeah, that’s exactly the way to do it. It’s just like really shame somebody for their success and that will make them want to then give you everything that they have already. That’s exactly the way to do it. Now, the real way to do it is to just be sincere, be kind the best advice I’ve ever gotten in my life is be cool.
[00:37:59] I think about, I thought I would say about that this morning. I’m like sincerely, the best advice I’ve ever gotten is be cool. And it just sounds like such shitty advice. Be cool. It sounds so fucking stupid, but it’s like, Hey, you know, relax, don’t try to force things to happen. You know, if things are meant to happen, they’ll happen.
[00:38:23] If you’re trying to make shit happen. If you’re trying to really just horn in situations where you don’t belong, it’s not going to make people like you more. Um, if you advocate for yourself, But aren’t pushy. That’s the best thing that you can do, you know, just work, just focus on yourself, making yourself better, making your craft better and advocate for yourself without being pushy.
[00:38:47] That’s the best thing that you can do. Just, just like, let people know, Hey, this is who I am. This is what I’m doing. This is my mission. And I think I personally see a way that we could work together. Um, I’d like to know if you feel the same way and if you don’t, I completely understand. Let me know if it’s cool for me to like circle back at some point.
[00:39:10] And if not, I it’s fine. Like it just kind of leave it at that. Like let people know that. It’s fine if you don’t, if they don’t want to have a relationship with you, because that makes people feel more comfortable that you respect their boundaries. Exactly. Yeah. Like letting people know that if, if, if they tell, you know, that it’s okay, makes them feel better and it will make them feel more comfortable that when they do say no, That you, you’re not going to go fucking nuclear on them and
[00:39:45] it
[00:39:45] Andrew: will actually open up say yes, it’s good.
[00:39:47] It’s not because they were coerced into doing it. Yeah,
[00:39:50] Emily: exactly. And it’ll open up more doors for you in the future, because even if, even, cause they’ll know that even if you weren’t, if it wasn’t right between you two it’ll it’ll, it’ll still keep you in their mind as if, if they. Have if, if someone asks them like, Hey, do you know anybody?
[00:40:09] Who’s like might be a good match for this. Right. Maybe they’ll think about you, you know, because you were cool and you were cool about something. You were cool. That being told no then, because it wasn’t a good match, but maybe you’re a good match for this other thing. And they’re gonna be like, you know, they were really cool.
[00:40:27] They’re really cool about that. So maybe, you know, just being a good person really gets you a lot farther than you would think. Yeah. And you know, a lot of people are going to say, but be in the best of what you do should get you the farthest and it, yeah. Maybe if she gets you pretty far, but if you’re going to be a fucking asshole all the time, it’s not going to, and no one’s going to want to work.
[00:40:50] Andrew: I would make the argument that, uh, part talent is a whole package. So talent, isn’t the entirety of the package. So who you are and the way that you present yourself as part of that whole package. And so like, yeah,
[00:41:07] Emily: this relationship, I mean, I’m sorry, this, this, um, this industry is so much about relationships.
[00:41:16] Do people want to be around you because you have to be around people? Yeah. Because you like to be around you for so many hours in a day. And if you fucking say.
[00:41:27] Andrew: Yep. It’s all part of the package. I mean, that’s, I mean, corporate culture has come a long way from like, what can you do and more, and see what, how do you do it kind of mentality.
[00:41:39] And I think, I think that is a much more human shift in, in an industry. That’s art driven. It’s a lot more natural for the humanity around it to be more central, uh, especially like in the pedal industry when it’s so many of these smaller mid-sized businesses that really care about networking and relationship, like what are you doing?
[00:41:59] Uh, so yeah, but yeah, absolutely. I, I, my vote goes with, uh, . Whether it be, if you’re networking within this industry, whether you’re just a fan in the industry, watching someone like Emily skyrocket to the moon.
[00:42:15] Emily: Yeah. Just be happy for other people’s success. Uh, you know, don’t be jealous about that success, you know, I think, and I think one of the best things you can do for your own mental health, and it just really sounds like bullshit sometimes, especially when you’re in a bad place and, you know, it’s the kind of advice that it’s.
[00:42:35] It’s hard to do when you’re in like the darkest place in your life. And if you’re in a really, really dark place, uh, sometimes you Def like I needed therapy to help me get to the place that I could actually start working through this and doing it because it takes practice to completely. Change that part of your brain that’s like immediately going to that negative thing is like really took a lot of cognitive behavioral therapy for me to get to that.
[00:42:57] It’s like focus on the positive things. Like, cause my knee, my automatic thought was like, I automatically went to the negative thing. I automatically went to the negative thing every single time. And it’s a training tool. Recognize I was going negative and pull it back and go positive. Especially when I was thinking about myself, like I’m a fucking idiot, I’m a fucking idiot.
[00:43:18] I’m a fucking idiot. It’s just a mistake. Anybody could do it. Just a mistake. Anybody could do it. And then just kind of working to like, not be so damn mean to myself all the time. Yeah. So it’s like, it just. And I feel better when I focus on the positives and other people, because when I’m thinking about the positives and other people, I’m not worried about other people focusing on the negatives in me.
[00:43:56] Yeah. Yeah.
[00:43:59] Andrew: I’m sure that’d be different for everybody, but
[00:44:01] Emily: yeah, no, that’s just me personally. This was working for me personally. But I, I just know that like, when I stopped, like talking shit and judging other people, I, I stopped assuming other people were talking shit about and judging me. Cause I just, you know, you kind of assume other people are doing and thinking the way that you’re doing and thinking a little bit, even if you’re not like aware of it all the time.
[00:44:32] That’s true. I think. Well, my internet connection was restored. I didn’t know what a, we,
[00:44:40] Andrew: I didn’t know. It went away. It was probably like one of those, like, like half a millisecond, just long enough for it to trigger that notification.
[00:44:50] Emily: My other what’s new is that, um, Rick figure it out. What was wrong with my internet and he fixed it.
[00:44:55] Oh, good. Yeah. Basically I got a better wifi extender for down here. Not a mesh network. Just the power, power USB 3.0, extend her situation. Sure. Yeah, actually I think it might be a 4.0 yeah. Wifi fault. One of my neighbors, internet, internet, I names is, uh, 5g radiation, chem trails. And then there’s Yancy.
[00:45:32] Gwen Stefani stunk, bug, computer blue. I got a prince fan as a neighbor. What did meet them?
[00:45:46] Andrew: Just log in sensor network.
[00:45:50] Emily: I could guess a bunch of like prince, prince themed passwords.
[00:45:58] Andrew: So you hack into their network and then you hack it and then you remote into their PC once you’re on there, because not a lot, not everybody has already be turned off and you just open up a notepad that says, hi, this is Emily from your next door.
[00:46:11] Let’s be friends. Hi, you
[00:46:14] Emily: want to share some prince boat legs? You want to come over and watch under the cherry moon.
[00:46:27] you got any fun plans coming up?
[00:46:30] Andrew: Um, I’m I, my fun plan right now is to clean the kitchen and then get back in here and start rearranging and decide if I’m going to go to Ikea or not.
[00:46:42] Emily: I want to go to Ikea.
[00:46:45] Andrew: I don’t think I have time to go to Ikea because I’ve got a early dinner thing to see.
[00:46:52] Emily: I might be seeing our Patrion supportive Jason today.
[00:46:58] I think I want to do a sharpshooter to play at my place.
[00:47:01] Andrew: Nice shot.
[00:47:04] Emily: I’m excited. Um, we filmed an episode of get opposite at Ikea and just like re like looked at the things and made a decision about whether or not this could be used for guitar.
[00:47:16] Andrew: Well, I mean, that’s why I’ve got, um, uh, where did I put it?
[00:47:21] I’ve got like a mini cutting. Oh, here we go.
[00:47:23] Emily: Could this be paddleboard
[00:47:28] Andrew: to this? Be pedalboard
[00:47:32] Emily: apt to LIG fully fit in the Monotech case.
[00:47:36] Andrew: That’s that’s part of my thought is something really small like this you get, I was thinking, um, I don’t, I’d have to double check. I’ve got that Sana cake power supply and. If it has enough ONTAP to power, the three Mako series and just make that like this little mini board,
[00:48:00] Emily: I think it might have like a 1200 max, so you’d be pushing it potentially.
[00:48:09] Andrew: I think this would be the
[00:48:11] Emily: board. I have one, 500 pores.
[00:48:17] Andrew: I honestly don’t remember. I haven’t looked at it in a while, but anyways, I finding a cute way to do this, or even just a one spotter, but a certain point. I don’t know if it’s three pedals. It’s probably not as big of a deal.
[00:48:32] Emily: Yeah. I don’t know what the Mako walrus,
[00:48:39] Andrew: I mean, I’ve got them sitting right over there.
[00:48:40] Just slightly out of range for my headset.
[00:48:46] I remember it being like 300 something per pedal, like 3
[00:48:49] Emily: 25. Oh, that’s it. Okay. That’s I was thinking they were
[00:48:53] Andrew: more, I might be misremembering. I’ll take a look
[00:48:57] Emily: at it. I don’t, I just kind of always assume 500 for things like that, which is stupid.
[00:49:05] Andrew: It’s the safest assumption.
[00:49:08] Emily: Yeah. I know specs. I don’t want to have to download a manual.
[00:49:16] That has small font.
[00:49:20] Okay. Give me a, um, 300.
[00:49:30] Andrew: Well, then that might be
[00:49:32] Emily: doable. That’d be doable. Yeah, totally cool. Well, um, that sounds like you’ve got some fun plans. I think. I think that I, you know, I I’m, I’m glad I’m feeling better than I did last weekend. Um, which is good. I was feeling pretty like just last week was such a weird week because you know, cases in king county were still going up.
[00:50:00] Not that they’re like going down quite yet, but they’re definitely not like. They appear to be kind of going vaguely down. The incident rate is going, the incidents rate is going down a little, um, which is good. Um, it’s kind of like holding steady. I always figure like Seattle’s a bit of a rule follower kind of place.
[00:50:25] So
[00:50:28] you like to see, like, I feel, I always felt like we were kind of be the kind of place where. Uh, people would, you know, pivot pretty quickly. Tell city
[00:50:38] Andrew: of Ross
[00:50:39] Emily: Geller’s yeah, Ross. Keller’s what Ross Geller’s. Oh, from friends.
[00:50:48] Andrew: Yeah. He’s also a bit of a rule follower. So
[00:50:51] Emily: he sucked. I think we can all agree, Ross.
[00:51:01] Having a stupid fake accent. Yeah.
[00:51:08] Andrew: I don’t really have an opinion. I just thought the show was kind of entertaining. So at
[00:51:12] Emily: one time I was like, you were in college or what would be like watching friends or Gilmore girls all the time.
[00:51:17] Andrew: I’d be like, girls is a much better series.
[00:51:21] Emily: I watch Gilmore girls, but I was also like, these are the shows that you just want to watch all the time.
[00:51:31] I just want to watch stuff that was still on TV. Kind of like, like we’re already at the point where we’re just watching comfort television, that’s off the air. Like, can we like watch stuff? That’s like, we can have a conversation about every week. It was that it. Okay. So it was that it was the office. Okay, I’m going to be honest.
[00:51:51] I wanted to watch America’s next top model and nobody wanted to watch it with me. Watch Tyra banks be ridiculous. Cool.
[00:52:03] Andrew: I might chop down a tree today. That’s actually, that sounds
[00:52:07] Emily: fun. Yeah. To chop down a
[00:52:09] Andrew: tree, I have a dead tree that my landlord gave me permission to chop.
[00:52:14] Emily: You should film that you should do like a S like a, the, a time lapse.
[00:52:18] It’s only like
[00:52:18] Andrew: a 10 foot it’s really
[00:52:20] Emily: small, but how long would it take you to
[00:52:24] Andrew: depends on if I decide I want to fell the whole thing in one go, or if I want to take it in a couple of chunks,
[00:52:31] Emily: I think I still think it would be fun to time-lapse it
[00:52:33] Andrew: just for fun? Well, I’m going to take you to a couple of chunks, even though it’s way more work to do it that way.
[00:52:43] We’ll see, we’ll see, after I eat breakfast, how much energy I feel like I have today,
[00:52:50] Emily: I should have put more milk in my smoothie because it’s just so thick.
[00:52:55] Andrew: I just don’t put milk in my smoothies.
[00:52:59] Emily: What do you have water
[00:53:00] Andrew: in your smoothies? Yeah, I do spinach protein powder, frozen strawberries and water in that.
[00:53:06] Emily: Uh, today I had spinach frozen banana strawberry, Greek yogurt, chia seeds, and a touch of milk. You don’t, you don’t like banana. I know, I know it’s going to get some PB too. I want to make sure my smoothies have protein. So that’s why I’m in the PB too. I want to make sure they have fiber purchase eats. I want to make sure they have it.
[00:53:33] Avocado, avocado fiber. Yeah. Um, and then spinach. Uh, no, Rick bought banana and then it was like, so green, I just chopped it up and put it in the freezer for, uh, the thought for either making banana bread or somebodies one.
[00:53:55] Andrew: Well, there you go. Well, I’m going to get rolling. Rolling on outta here.
[00:54:01] Emily: Roll on down the broom.
[00:54:03] All right. Cool. Well, uh, have a great rest of your weekend and next week. And, uh, to all of the folk out there, uh, stay positive tests. Negative. Uh, thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Thanks for understanding until next time. My name is Emily. My
[00:54:23] Andrew: name is Andrew goodbye.
