Get Offset Episode 169: The Guy From The Turtles Was Right!!!

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[00:00:00] Andrew: you’re going to leave that one in, right?

[00:00:15] Emily: Yeah. That’s going to be the intro to that podcast. My name is Emily

[00:00:20] Andrew: and my name is Andrew.

[00:00:23] Emily: Oh, I don’t think I can do that to people. I don’t think I can leave it in.

[00:00:28] Andrew: Imagine just hitting play in the first thing you hear is a belch.

[00:00:32] Emily: It wasn’t like the nastiest Belgium, but it’s still, I think not what people want.

[00:00:38] Andrew: It wasn’t a dry belt.

[00:00:42] Emily: Uh, true. It wasn’t, it wasn’t so bad. It was that.

[00:00:48] Andrew: I mean, this is probably completely off topic for the, for the show that, you know, like there’s dry versus wet farts. Does that terminology transfer over to burps?

[00:00:57] Emily: I feel like, hi. Is the thing for burps? Like, is it a hot burp? Like, is it just like getting the gas out or is there something brewing in there?

[00:01:08] That’s just like really? Is it a stinky hot burp coming from the depth? Yeah.

[00:01:17] Andrew: Yeah. That’s fair. Yeah. My goodness. Life is strange. And what a, what a week 20? 22 has been so strange.

[00:01:28] Emily: Yeah. I it’s been a lot of things all at once. Hasn’t it? Uh,

[00:01:36] Andrew: it has, um, yeah, as if life could cause I’ve had like higher highs and lower lows in the last couple of weeks since we’ve started the new year, I guess just

[00:01:49] Emily: last week.

[00:01:52] Recording this on the eighth?

[00:01:53] Andrew: Yeah, it’s been a month. I

[00:01:57] Emily: know. I was like, dude, I was looking at tracking and I was like, this tracking hasn’t updated since the seventh. And I was like, it’s the eighth bitch. What’s what is up your butt yesterday? Calm down. I was like, I literally thought it was like the 20th.

[00:02:17] Andrew: The rollercoaster just gets more and more intense. 2020 was just a warmup.

[00:02:25] Emily: My sister-in-law showed me. I mean, have you seen the shining?

[00:02:31] Andrew: I don’t think I’ve ever actually sat down and watched it now. I just have

[00:02:34] Emily: seen like said, and then you make the reference then I won’t explain it to you. Yeah, but it was, uh, involved with training and it was what, 2022.

[00:02:46] It’s like, Wendy, I’m not going to hurt ya. I’m just going to bash your brains in. But the Jack Nicholson was probably 22.

[00:02:57] Andrew: Yeah, that sounds about right.

[00:02:58] Emily: And all the oil was all of us.

[00:03:04] I forget that. Actress’s name, Shelley, Shelley something. Shelley LA, no Shelley long list from cheers.

[00:03:15] Andrew: So, uh, on a positive note, why don’t I start with like, Ooh, I’m going to start with my middle of the road. What’s new. And then I’m going to move to my absolute highlight. What’s new. And then I’m going to move to my mixed bag. What’s now.

[00:03:31] Emily: Oh boy, it’s a mixed bag.

[00:03:36] Andrew: It’s a mixed bag.

[00:03:39] Emily: Okay. Let’s start with your middle of the road.

[00:03:41] What’s new. I guess

[00:03:43] Andrew: I have joined the. And the club is the fender Stratocaster Lego edition club. I’m going to have to, uh, yeah, I think I’m going to take a, uh, find a Saturday and choose a vice of my choice.

[00:04:03] Emily: No, it’s funny. If you went live on YouTube assembling it.

[00:04:09] Andrew: Yo, that’s actually not a bad idea.

[00:04:11] Emily: You’d be like, again, where is Emily? Who’s this guy. Oh, he’s the guy from the podcast. There’s a podcast.

[00:04:21] Andrew: I could do a dual camera setup and just do it here at my desk with like an overhead here.

[00:04:25] Emily: That’d be cool.

[00:04:28] Andrew: I’m doing OBS picture and picture. That’d be cool. That’s actually probably pretty

[00:04:33] Emily: doable.

[00:04:33] Yeah. It was fun. I recommended that. That was really.

[00:04:41] Andrew: You know, maybe I’ll maybe I’ll have to

[00:04:42] Emily: give that a go do that. I, someone just commented on, like, I did like a little short of like the completed product and someone commented WTF. This isn’t completed. I’m like, what are you talking about? All right. Sorry that you feel that way. What wasn’t completed about it?

[00:05:01] I don’t know. He did not. Uh, he did not expand upon the sentiment that it wasn’t completed. It was very odd. I was like, okay. Because I did the amp. Did the guitar, did the foot switch? I just,

[00:05:20] Andrew: I know. Is there like a stand? You have to do all that for it. Yeah. I built

[00:05:24] Emily: a stand. Yeah. I don’t know. Maybe I missed something.

[00:05:29] Maybe we missed something.

[00:05:31] Andrew: Interesting. All right. So I’m going to lead on, into the highlight of my entire week. Uh, I genuinely mean highlight probably of my year so far.

[00:05:46] Emily: No,

[00:05:46] Andrew: it’s like to

[00:05:47] Emily: highlight of my year. I mean, yeah.

[00:05:50] Andrew: I got a message from a certain supporter of the show and friend Damien,

[00:06:00] Emily: Damien,

[00:06:01] Andrew: and Damien said, Hey, you like star wars.

[00:06:03] Right. And he’s like, yeah. It’s like, do like collectibles. I haven’t really gotten into them. Why do you ask? He was saying, well, I was going through, I think he said it was like his grandparents addict or family members domiciled. We’ll go with that. I found some figures from his childhood that he didn’t want any more and didn’t care to go through the effort of.

[00:06:27] And so he just sent them to me. I don’t know if he wants that to be broadcasted. I probably should have asked, but it’s too late now. He was incredibly kind. And so you

[00:06:37] Emily: can message him real quick.

[00:06:41] Andrew: Yeah. I probably could do that. It says, and the note says, Andrew, you already know what these are, but either way, I hope you enjoy them.

[00:06:48] Thanks for being a Powell. Uh, plus I actually don’t want to read that

[00:06:55] Emily: plus. Well, if it was David issues, DACA sending the note, you would have been able to read it. I

[00:07:02] Andrew: surveying Pell. We’ll go that. And then there’s a great Rick and Morty, Sal drying of episode one. This whole focus will be one cutting Darth Maul in half.

[00:07:13] And this as quiet gone is dead over there, rest in pieces. And here’s what he said.

[00:07:20] Emily: Oh, my God. They’re in the box. They’re in the box.

[00:07:24] Andrew: I think I asked them why gone. So I’m going to have to earn that and I owe you one. So I’ve got shelves in front of me. I’m gonna have to put OB one on the high ground and one shelf up and Darth Maul and the shelf below.

[00:07:38] I think that’s going to be the plan. Nice. Um, yeah, no, absolutely. I have my weekend. I’m hyped. This is giving me flashbacks to my childhood as well, which is funny. Cause my parents wouldn’t let me watch episode one. When it first came out because of the scene where Darth Maul gets cut in half, they thought that was too graphic for a kid my age.

[00:07:59] And so me loving star wars

[00:08:03] Emily: and not wanting to write. Yeah, there was really, no, I

[00:08:08] Andrew: didn’t want to not what are so they will then love you watch it, but they make you like pause this, like close my eyes for the scene. When my friend would let me watch it. And I was like, Okay, cool. That okay. I understand. They would just explain, oh, there’s mold was killed.

[00:08:23] I’m like one day they went out date night, took babysitters watching me. And I was like, I want to watch star wars. And he’s like, have you seen this before? Like, yeah. Yeah. And they’re like, you explained a couple of scenes. Okay. You’ve seen them before. That’s fine. Babies. There’s like green light wash. The whole thing.

[00:08:39] It did not close by. He’s like

[00:08:46] Emily: if my

[00:08:46] Andrew: parents came home, they were like, can you just know? Um, yup. Bamboozled the babysitter.

[00:08:54] Emily: Parents have a way of just knowing. It’s amazing.

[00:08:58] Andrew: They do. So anyways, um, so much SLJ I unabashedly love episode one. Uh, and that brings me to the nightmare. That was my Wednesday night.

[00:09:11] Emily: Oh boy.

[00:09:13] Andrew: I ordered a new phone for the first time in years.

[00:09:17] Uh, or ordered to the house, uh, was excited, supposed to arrive Tuesday into getting delayed. I’m sure snow had something to do with that. Give the, get the email notification while I was at work on Wednesday saying your package has been delivered. And like neither of us were home that afternoon. I was actually the first one home and I got home like seven 30 and I get home, get out of the car.

[00:09:39] Like, where is it? Where is it? Uh, boxes in here? Like when it’s I grabbed the flashlight and like looking through the bushes, like where did it go? And, and it’s just not there. And I’m like, I’m aware that like stealing off of porches as a thing, but I’ve never had never had a package stolen off my porch.

[00:10:03] Never had an issue. And I’m like, of course it would be the one-time they’ll order something nice for myself. Yeah, so freaking out. Um, so I started pulling up like the tracking, like make sure that it actually get delivered. Was that sent in error? Is it a positive, like, do they take a pack, a picture of it?

[00:10:20] Like anything like that? Um, like proof that it, maybe the delivery person just marked as delivered is going to come by later,

[00:10:27] Emily: I’m looking I’m like,

[00:10:30] Andrew: I was none of those. It was completely self-inflicted. And so I was looking and I realized that my Google auto-fill when I went to go make the order, it did a hybrid of my in-laws address who lives around the block from us and my address, third party’s address, who I do not know.

[00:10:48] I’m like, okay, cool. That’s not great. But at least now I understand where ended up drive over there and knock on the door. I’m like, I am so sorry to be bothering them. Was it? I recognize it’s well, after dinner time, I had my package sent here by accident. Uh, my in-laws live over there. I live over here. It just, the auto-fill screwed it up.

[00:11:05] I’ve got my ID. I’ve got my order number. I promise. I’m not trying to steal anybody else’s package. And the wife, the wife had come out and she just looked at me with a blank face.

[00:11:16] Emily: Honey

[00:11:19] Andrew: was like, okay, like maybe he’s got the package at his office or something. He comes out hands on his hips and he just looks like I, sir, I’m so sorry to bother you.

[00:11:29] This is incredibly embarrassing. This is entirely my fault. And explain what happened again. I mean, he just looked at me. He says, okay, I understand. And I mean, I looked you up on online. You seem like a totally normal person, but I’m not giving you that. I was like, what? He’s like, I’ve already called FedEx.

[00:11:46] They’re going to be picking up tomorrow, but this can be illegal activity. And I’m just going to follow a protocol here. So, and I’m

[00:11:52] Emily: like, okay. That’s

[00:11:54] Andrew: like, I’m like, okay, I get it, sir. But th this is like, I ordered it from

[00:12:00] Emily: we’ll do that. People, people do have things fraudulently sent to wrong addresses all the time.

[00:12:07] And I didn’t

[00:12:08] Andrew: know, that was a thing until I looked it up, but I’m like, is there anything I can do to change your mind? He’s like, Nope, I, and I’m going to need you to leave now. And I’m like, and I’m sitting there the front door, knowing that my phone is right behind them and that I can’t get it. And I was like, I am.

[00:12:26] So I go home call FedEx, FedEx. Won’t redeliver it because it’s a high-dollar item. The retailer that they purchased it, or I bought it straight from Google.

[00:12:40] Uh, so they wouldn’t redeliver. It Google’s like, uh, well, it says it was delivered. Why are you asking for, we don’t understand what the problem. And so they were like, we’re going to open up an investigation. Well, now they think I’m trying to get an extra phone for free, and this is just a nightmare. And I was just sitting here.

[00:12:55] It was like eight 30. And I realized that the only way that I’m going to, like, I might either eating the money or I’m actually trusting that the other family is going to return it to FedEx. It’ll eventually make its way back in, in a couple of weeks, the one Google processes that I’ll be able to, to get it redelivered.

[00:13:14] And it was like, I don’t know if I could, like, I’m willing to trust that. And so someone in, uh, in the patron chat, I was like, well, have you considered calling the police non-emergency line? Maybe they’d be willing to turn it over to the police.

[00:13:27] Emily: Oh, that’s a great idea. So I

[00:13:29] Andrew: called the police non-emergency line from my neighborhood officer came over and he just steps out.

[00:13:33] I was like, all right. What’s going on. And I already explained a little bit over the phone and he’s like, all right, talk to me. What, what did you do? And I’m like, I’m so embarrassed. Let me show you all the information. Let me, and

[00:13:44] Emily: so, so you, that it’s actually my credit card and on a fraudulent credit card that I use to make the

[00:13:49] Andrew: purchase.

[00:13:49] I, the credit card phone verify that it was indeed my email, my email signed in on happened to be my email, asked for my, uh, with my name on it and not just my spam email. I think it’s helpful. And he’s like, okay, well, yeah, I’m unconvinced to let me go see if I can, uh, you stay here, I’ll go talk to him and see.

[00:14:08] And I, it was just sitting there for half an hour by the window, eating my. Like I was so nervous. I couldn’t hardly even like, I need food. I need food. Like got the window opened. I’m just sitting there at the end, like watching my driveway. And finally it is lean back, honey. I don’t think it’s happening. He maybe he got an got called on to something more important because I recognize it that it’s not, uh, what

[00:14:29] Emily: enforces should be.

[00:14:31] That’s literally their fucking job, dude. I don’t

[00:14:34] Andrew: know. Um, I, I don’t think it’s happening. So I started cleaning up and get getting ready. I’d already put off a pledge of empires two every Wednesday with a buddy online to catch up. And I sort of started settling in for that. And then my phone goes answered and he’s like, Hey, it’s officer so-and-so.

[00:14:52] I I’m in, I’ve got your phone. I’m not frightened if you want to come outside. And I got stuff out here. You just stares at me with it. Yeah, they were, they were tough. It apparently had been, he had been in their driveway for over half an hour talking with him and it took them that long to agree to hand it over to police custody.

[00:15:11] Emily: What did they think was going to happen to them if they gave it to the police? Is my question.

[00:15:18] Andrew: Like, I don’t know.

[00:15:20] Emily: I mean, that makes me wonder if they were actually going to give it to FedEx.

[00:15:24] Andrew: That makes me wonder that too. And the other thing, I don’t want to assume worst intentions, but I mean, FedEx did say that they hadn’t received.

[00:15:33] And that was one of the reasons why I was starting to panic because they said that they had already called FedEx and I said, and FedEx, and that they hadn’t received a call. And I’m like, I don’t want to just sit here and wait for them to possibly get around to it.

[00:15:45] Emily: Yeah. I think they might’ve thought free phone

[00:15:49] Andrew: maybe.

[00:15:50] I mean, I didn’t tell them what was in the package and I showed them. Okay. Show them what it

[00:15:54] Emily: was. Yeah. Wow. So yeah, she ever patriarch supporter made that suggestion.

[00:16:03] Andrew: Uh, I, I don’t remember off the top of my head. I’m actually looking at it right now, but yes. Thank you. Um, I, and there’s a couple of, a couple of them online that were cheering me on and following me through the process and it takes someone I’m not going to name, drop those.

[00:16:21] Someone’s like, you should go key their cars.

[00:16:27] Emily: if you want to join. And if you want to join our discord server and be part of conversations like that, all you have to do is support us on Patrion for at least $5 a month.

[00:16:40] Andrew: Yep. That was a good conversation.

[00:16:45] Emily: Get the Arctic at least. Yeah. I don’t think they were going to return the phone.

[00:16:52] Andrew: I’d like to think best intentions.

[00:16:55] So that’s when I’m going choose a belief.

[00:16:58] Emily: I, I don’t know if a cop came and was like, I think you should turn over. If you think it’s stolen property or like fraudulent,

[00:17:08] Andrew: I don’t know what he had to say to convince them. Cause like, did he come out saying, Hey, I just talked to the guy it’s legit or you come out saying, Hey, we got a report of the package being delivered here.

[00:17:16] We’re going to take it into custody. Like, do they have to say we’re taking into custody pending further investigation as evidence or something like that? I don’t know what you would have had to say or what, why it took over half an hour for conversation. He does look like he had like walked out of like a family Thanksgiving dinner worth of argument with the crazy racist uncle.

[00:17:36] Yep.

[00:17:39] Emily: Yeah, that was, that was weird, man. That’s very weird. I don’t know. So people are just weird, you know, maybe they were legit, maybe they were fine, but some people are just very odd about that kind of thing. And then they don’t want to be part of something odd. And just this there’s no, that is like a real scam that people pull they’ll have things delivered to fraudulent addresses, so they’re not attached to it and they’ll come and hope that your work and scoop it, uh, while you’re not there.

[00:18:06] And it happens a lot. It happens people. I think it happens a lot of hotels, especially. Um, so yeah, that’s a real thing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. My most news aren’t as exciting or I guess I, um, I’m going to blame Ryan from demos in the dark for this though. Oh, no, it’s a game changer. I haven’t plugged it in yet. I just got it.

[00:18:34] But, um, I’m excited to try it out. Thanks Ryan. I know. He’s like, it’s he? Yeah. You said he was accused pretty converted on it. Um, yeah. And I was featured in an article on guitar.com. That’s V burying the lead. Yeah, I think so. I think it’s pretty fucking rad. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, I was, it might’ve been the first person to legitimately use our contact form in like forever, cause that’s mostly spam.

[00:19:14] So it just goes all to spam, random

[00:19:16] Andrew: ads for, uh, for Viagra.

[00:19:19] Emily: I just, I don’t know why you have that.

[00:19:21] Andrew: I don’t know either. I just like picked up. It was actually. Um, I was trying to like push opinion a toy for the kiddo, and I just grabbed this out of my thing. And that was like two days ago. Cause I haven’t been at my desk in a day or two and I just pulled it up just now to note, take something on a post-it note, like, wait a minute, what is it?

[00:19:41] Emily: You probably saw it and thought it was fucking hilarious and just pop her this.

[00:19:45] Andrew: It was something like that where I was like, oh, and I’ve just forgotten that I ever had that thought. And

[00:19:50] Emily: now you’re just mortified.

[00:19:52] Andrew: No, no, I still think it’s funny.

[00:19:54] Emily: Ah, yeah. Um, yeah, so that was really cool. Um, it was just like a, uh, an online forum.

[00:20:04] So I didn’t actually talk to anybody, but uh, yeah, you read it. How was it? Was it a good read?

[00:20:11] Andrew: Well written

[00:20:12] Emily: good answers. Well written because I wrote it as a joke. I, you know, there just, it was a question for my humble brag. I didn’t write everything, but. People seem to be responding really well to it. So that’s really nice.

[00:20:28] You know, I, they, they linked to some, uh, Sunday crush stuff and they were just cool. That was surprised. I didn’t know that, um, guitar, guitar wasn’t, um, they didn’t have a magazine in print anymore.

[00:20:44] Andrew: Did not know that I’m also a jerk, um, it’s Powell and such

[00:20:53] Emily: PDL and such

[00:20:54] Andrew: yeah. Pallet plus such cool. The part that threw me is the H like, it looks like it bled just a little bit and now it looks almost like a K. Um, and I was like Powell and what that, I understand that I’m questioning everything. And I just looked at him. Oh, he had died, Helen, such that makes rational

[00:21:17] Emily: sense.

[00:21:20] Just a PA, just a good old pal and suck.

[00:21:27] Andrew: So like palindrome, but

[00:21:29] Emily: it sounds like a,

[00:21:36] Andrew: is that the new friends with benefits term

[00:21:41] Emily: no more Netflix and chill. You want to come over and Palem slash

[00:21:50] I’m sorry. There it is. I have some biodegradable straws,

[00:21:59] but, um, yeah, I think the thing that people that got really pulled out of this Arctic, I’m sorry, I fucked it up. I fucked it up. Just fucked it up. Um, I think the people that the people are really pulling out of this article is, um, do you know, this hurdles are. So happy to get that band. Well, um, one of the members of the turtles, mark Voldman, he was one of my professors in college.

[00:22:32] And I remember he said something in one of our classes was that, um, every musician needs, every successful artist has to have confidence. And at the time I remember thinking that it was such bullshit, like everyone’s riddled with self doubt. And, um, I just, I just thought it was full of shit basically. Um, and the older I get, the more right.

[00:22:55] I think he is. And I hate him for that. I hate how right. I think he is because, um, and this is the headline of the article. If you don’t believe in yourself or your art, why should anyone? And, um, just the importance of exuding confidence, even if you. Have those feelings of doubt when you’re presenting your art, it’s important.

[00:23:20] It’s, it’s like one of those big mistakes that a lot of performers and singer songwriters especially make, um, before they, you know, play is, oh, I just know I’m going to mess this one up or something like that, or, oh, is the new one, so I’m not as familiar with it. So if I mess up, be nice so that people are expecting mistakes and you’re trying to, like, I know what they’re trying to do.

[00:23:44] They’re trying. Yeah. Yeah. But is that what you’ve wanted to do? Or do you want people to like make up their own minds? And if you have con like not cockiness, there’s difference between confidence and cockiness. Cockiness is like, I’m the absolute shit. I’m better than everybody, but confidence is, is more intrinsic.

[00:24:11] Like I’m happy with what I’m doing. And I hope that you can also see the value in what I’m doing and what I’m creating, and it’s, it’s more fulfilled. Like you’re, you, you feel fulfilled with yourself. And I think that’s what confidence really is. And even if you have doubt, cause I have lots of doubt all the time.

[00:24:33] Like, I don’t know sometimes if a demo’s any good before I release it, or if it shows good at all, if I play it or something I wrote or played sounded good or whatever. Um, but I’m not going to sit up there and be like, eh, probably sucks, but I’m going to the conference can be as little as to going like, oh, here you go.

[00:24:59] Here’s the thing. I did hope you like it, it doesn’t have to be like, this is this amazing thing. I, I worked so hard on it. Doesn’t have to be. Uh, caricature. It can be much more subtle than that. It can. And I think that’s like the most, I think there’s like a Pete Davidson kind of confidence. You know what I mean?

[00:25:22] Cause he’s, he’s a little disparaging. Sure. But he’s also, but he’s got plenty of confidence because he exudes that comfort, that comfort of who he is and what he is. And he does make fun of himself a lot. But I think those two things can work together.

[00:25:45] Andrew: Well. Yeah. I mean a, it works for him really well, modern band boy kind of perspective, but there’s, I mean, any quote unquote bad boy going back for decades has had that level of confidence.

[00:25:55] And that’s what a lot of people are intrinsically attracted to. But I think the thought that runs in my mind is someone who’s very self-critical and someone who can be critical of other musicians. If I. I try not to be critical of other people. If I don’t actually know what they’re doing. So I’m not like, look at a keys player and be like, oh, they’re a terrible keys player.

[00:26:17] But like, I’ll, I’ll follow. So like a drummer for instance, like, oh, okay. Even if I could do a better job, but understand what what’s going on with how they’re playing at a level where I can like, kind of pick it apart in my brain. The part that I forget is not every single one of the faces in the crowd is doing that.

[00:26:35] Emily: Yeah.

[00:26:36] Andrew: And that’s always starting because, you know, playing my experience playing with for churches is people aren’t even focused on the musicianship either. I, so for me to sit there and be like, ah, I’m the, it wasn’t very good. Or whatever, if people would still come and be like, oh, that was great. And like, did you not hear all X, Y, and Z bad things?

[00:26:57] Yeah. I tell them what’s

[00:26:58] Emily: trash today. They weren’t listening. No people don’t notice like the five mistakes you make over an hour set. Everybody makes a mistake during their set,

[00:27:08] Andrew: but what people do notice. Attitude energy people have a strong BS meter in like naturally. Yeah.

[00:27:17] Emily: People remember how you make them feel.

[00:27:20] You know, most people are at shows and listen to music, to like have a, have an experience, have a, hopefully a good time. And to try to, um, at least exude enough confidence that it doesn’t detract from their experience. That’s really important. And to believe in yourself, because you have to believe in yourself enough to even get up on a stage, to begin with.

[00:27:50] Like that’s the first step of confidence as a performer is to go to the open mic nights, uh, to try to book gigs, to go out to shows, network, to release music, to, um, just do the fucking thing. That’s the first step. And then from there, you know, uh, taking criticism, well, like if you can take criticism, well, that’s a sign of confidence too, because being able to take criticism well is to not, not to just like accept all criticism and make changes based on it, but to know, and really understand which criticisms to accept and apply and which ones, you know, maybe meanwhile, but you know, aren’t quite for you.

[00:28:35] Um, cause like, you know, the, you’ve seen our common section. I get, I get a lot of criticism and some, some are, you know, fair. Some criticism that we get is fair. Um, and some is bullshit.

[00:28:52] Andrew: There’s just so weird comments lately on that note,

[00:28:55] Emily: but you haven’t seen the Tech-Talk dude.

[00:28:58] Andrew: I have not seen

[00:28:59] Emily: the Tacoma. God.

[00:29:02] Andrew: Uh, so if I can’t comes to mind is like, you know, confidence versus pride. Cause you know, like do like take pride in what you do is different than being prideful. And I think it’s, there’s a delineation between the two that I it’s hard to nail down, but I think whether or not you’re you receive criticism well is a key indicator there.

[00:29:25] So if you’re prideful, you’d be like, what do you mean I’m bad?

[00:29:28] Emily: Like, or a narcissist, right.

[00:29:32] Andrew: Or, you know, if you’re calm and you’re like, oh, okay, that’s a new, I hadn’t considered that way. Let me, let me think about this and see if it applies critically. Give it a fair shot without, without immediately going.

[00:29:43] Oh yeah, you’re right. It’s such a terrible and my tongue sucks. I know it’s like totally different.

[00:29:49] Emily: Like for the demo channel, sometimes you still get comments. We still get comments. They’re like, oh, you should start by playing the pedal. And I’m like, there’s plenty of channels that, that do that. Yep. And you’re welcome to either watch one of them, or it sounds like you have a pretty clear creative vision.

[00:30:07] Maybe you should start your own channel. Do that, go for it. Um, cause that’s just, I’ve done it a few times and I’ve just not found that the payoff is necessarily as strong and uh, again, like I’ll do it when the inspiration hits me and when I have the time and when I want to, but I’m not going to do it for every single pedal.

[00:30:33] Yeah. It’s not my full-time job if it were, maybe I would, you know, but I have another job. I have a day job and yeah.

[00:30:47] Andrew: Time to have a day job.

[00:30:55] Emily: True stories. So, yeah, it’s it’s um, so that’s what I, I, I think, and that’s like exuding confidence takes practice. Uh, it’s not like anything in life and any, any change that you make, uh, when people say things like that, they often leave out the part where you have to really practice to make those kinds of, um, changes in, in your perceptions, um, in, in your presentations.

[00:31:29] So you’re not going to it’s it’s, it’s, it’s going to be an uphill battle because Sunday

[00:31:34] Andrew: verbal choice. Yeah. I mean, decision-maker.

[00:31:38] Emily: Yeah. Just, you know, practice it day by day, and you’re going to find that you probably get better at it. You’re not going to like start to exude confidence like that. And if you try, you’re probably going to look like an asshole because you’re probably going to do it in a very weird, awkward kind of way.

[00:31:55] It’s like, you don’t just go run a 5k after not running. You’re going to hurt yourself.

[00:32:01] Andrew: I tried to hurt myself, apparently playing soccer last night for the first time, a wild, like actually playing soccer. And it turns out trying to pivot 195 pounds on a dime way harder than when I was in high school. And I was just pivoting, you know, 125 pounds on a dime.

[00:32:20] Yeah. Very different

[00:32:22] Emily: dynamic. Yeah. Pivoting

[00:32:25] Andrew: the blood blister on my big toe shows.

[00:32:27] Emily: Ah, ah,

[00:32:33] Andrew: what can I say? I got to go.

[00:32:37] Emily: Gross dude,

[00:32:38] Andrew: I wasn’t going to give it the goal

[00:32:40] Emily: growth.

[00:32:41] Andrew: Also slide tackling hurts way more than this weight than it did. Like I just bounce off of a slide tackle before I hit the ground a couple of times, like, yeah, I’m going to walk us out.

[00:32:55] Emily: Um, yeah. So, uh, so that was

[00:32:59] Andrew: the confidence is a huge takeaway. And I like that quote, I like that approach. Um, I, I wonder how I’m curious to hear your thoughts and how does that relate to the fake it till you make it mentality?

[00:33:12] Emily: It’s part of it. It’s, it’s a big part of it. Um, you know, they’re there it’s, it’s real, it’s fake it till you make it as the, the reason it has presser veered and our.

[00:33:31] Culture as like an idiom or whatever cliche or whatever the fuck it is is because there, there are nuggets of truth in it. Like it’s the same as dress for the job you want, not the job that you have. I’m like, okay, didn’t get me a goddamn Nudie suit. Cause I just want to be, that’s what, that’s the job that I want.

[00:33:52] I want to be in a country band so badly. Um, no it’s because there, there are there’s there’s truth in it. And I think that is very much about like practicing a mindset. Um, and I just can’t stress enough that mindsets have to be practice as much as physical activities, as much as like playing guitar as much as anything that you want to make a change.

[00:34:20] And I think that’s part of faking it till you make you’re making it. Um, but. I think that, that that phrase gets a bad rap because of the word fake the phrase, the fake it part. Um, cause no one wants to be fake or fake something. Um,

[00:34:43] Andrew: the implication is fake it til you make, it is like a transitional thing where you don’t know what you’re doing at first, but it’s not like you’re going to leave it at that as opposed to I’m just going to fake it and just not work on it moving

[00:34:56] Emily: forward.

[00:34:56] Yeah. You’re not just going to know everything right away. I, you know, it is different than failing up. It’s kind of the opposite. It failing up is the idea of you. Like you get fired from a job because you were bad at it. And then your next job, you get a higher title and position, even though you literally failed from your last job.

[00:35:22] That’s what failing up is. And it is. Uh, fundraiser. It is so common in the business world. It’s common in music too.

[00:35:33] Andrew: So angry. Uh, actually just got a notification that someone I, I used to work with, who I just got a new job, like how we were at the same job, same position four years ago. And they were just an absolute mess, mess human, um, total jerk, uh, by like last week, like just stop showing up in your workshop and uses the t-shirt looked at me and said, I’m gone in a week anyways.

[00:35:58] So you want to do the paperwork to fire me or you want to just let me roll this out? Yeah. So that kind of, they just mess of human and he’s like, wait, how did

[00:36:12] Emily: failing up

[00:36:13] Andrew: and fired from like three jobs in four years, dude, it just keeps going up every single time. I don’t understand. It does not make sense.

[00:36:22] Emily: Let’s be charming.

[00:36:25] Andrew: I mean

[00:36:26] Emily: Virgin interview. Yeah. Yeah. They’ll figure it out. They don’t look at that. Or like why that’s a lot of jumping, it’s normal. It’s more normal for people, you know, my age and your age to move jobs more frequently, but that’s a law that shit will.

[00:36:48] I got nothing. I got to the Nat. I don’t have anything to add to that. That’s fucked. Wow.

[00:36:52] Andrew: As the exception, not the rule though. Uh, it’s a strange phenomenon. I don’t, I genuinely have no explanation for, I would love an explanation at some point. Maybe he’s just cracked some sort of code, but I don’t know that code possibly be nor do I think it’s worth doing that to anybody else around you to get there.

[00:37:10] Emily: I, I think that there’s a big, second chance culture for specific types of people in the world. Get more second chances. I’m not going to say. I don’t want to get that he had on me today.

[00:37:30] Again, you haven’t, you haven’t seen the Tik TOK comments the past couple, the past couple of days.

[00:37:36] Andrew: Uh, I shutter at the five.

[00:37:40] Emily: People are weird.

[00:37:44] Andrew: People are strange, you know, also strange. You see, I put an article in the discord that that scientists have come up with a air freshener that reads your mind

[00:37:58] makes sense. When you think about it.

[00:38:13] So what else in the article should we extrapolate on here? God fucking

[00:38:18] Emily: dammit.

[00:38:22] Um, I don’t know. What else did you read? You read the article. I did you to talk about the first thing on my writer? My brother. That was my brother’s favorite when he finally read it. Yes.

[00:38:35] Andrew: Yeah. That one threw me for a loop. Cause I’m sitting here thinking of all the different things I could possibly ask for.

[00:38:41] Uh, and I, uh, fluffy oversize, bath towel,

[00:38:48] Emily: first thing on my fucking writer. That’s what I would do.

[00:38:53] Andrew: I dunno, like I am I in a strange human for not really caring about what my tele feels like

[00:39:00] Emily: did when, when the alternative is probably like this big, that scratchy and touched a lot of other asses. Yeah, you’re weird.

[00:39:14] Andrew: Yeah. I mean, I don’t know. I did an internship in Eastern Europe where I was traveling around saying it various hotels and residences using whatever Calwell happened

[00:39:26] Emily: to be available. But you were a lot younger than

[00:39:30] Andrew: me. I was like 1900.

[00:39:31] Emily: Yeah. That’s that’s see. It’s I think as you get older, you kind of want just like those little itty-bitty luxuries in your life.

[00:39:40] Um, and having a really nice bath towel is one of those, and there’s this kind of things that feel like home, you know, um, some advice I’ve always gotten for tour is bring your own shampoo and soap so that you kind of feel a little bit more like you’re at home instead of relying on whatever is at a hotel or whatever.

[00:40:00] Is that a venue perhaps, um, to give you a little bit, make you feel a little bit more grounded. So I think having a nice bath hall kind of plays into that, but like other stuff for a writer, the, the, the only thing I could think of, cause cause you gotta ask sometimes for like really specific things, dude.

[00:40:21] Like I wanna make sure we have enough seats for everybody kind of important. Um, not guaranteed and um, yeah, important. So like things like food drinks, fuck that. Just give me a per diem. I think a lot of people are kind of moving to a tourist or moving to per diem so people can just like get what they want or they can save their, their money instead of, uh, You know, doing whatever.

[00:40:55] Like I think it was Steve salvage told me that he would, for awhile, he just saved his per diem and ate peanut butter sandwiches on tourist. So he could pay off an amplifier he bought or want to like just extra money. It adds up, you know, I guess that makes sense. So yeah,

[00:41:13] Andrew: I’m used to like in the corporate world per diems usually use it or lose it, so

[00:41:20] Emily: yeah, no, you get, you get it from, um, you cashed out, you basically get handed cash, I think usually, or like deposited.

[00:41:30] Um,

[00:41:31] Andrew: I saw the, I forget what group I saw it posted somebody posted like the, the writer for the grateful dead. It was like the most ridiculous

[00:41:40] Emily: ass. Like what you asked for things just to see what you can get.

[00:41:46] Andrew: I don’t understand that feels wasteful.

[00:41:50] Emily: What were they asked? Do you remember where they were asking?

[00:41:51] There, there is the website that I looked at a lot in high school to see what the writers would say sometimes, still be funny, but for the most part, their real writers are pretty boring.

[00:42:01] Andrew: I mean, it wasn’t anything particularly ridiculous. So I’m just thinking about like the number of people in the band versus the amount that they had asked were,

[00:42:07] Emily: um, well, it’s not just for the band is for, um, it’s for the, the, everybody is for the people working it’s for the interior or the sound guys.

[00:42:17] Like if you at a big tour. Yeah. That’s always a lot alive alcohol. Um, but that’s for like, yeah, for like the lighting guys, sound guys, everyone who goes on tour with them. Um, they’re kind of included in the writer.

[00:42:31] Andrew: I’d have to take a look at it again, but yeah, I mean, it was strange when reading.

[00:42:39] Emily: The foo fighters.

[00:42:40] One has always was always pretty funny to me. They, they had some humor in there. They asked for granola and I said, good granola. W if in doubt, ask a hippie. I remember that one. That’s pretty good. Of course, the van Halen writers always really famous because they put little Easter eggs in there. Um, knowing that if things weren’t followed to a T uh, there could be a major safety violation, like the Eminem thing, they wanted all the blue m&ms taken out of the bowl or something like that.

[00:43:15] So if they had an Eminem bowl, but there were blue m&ms in it, they’d shut everything down and double check the safety elements. Cause like David Lee Roth would be like flying across the stage and shit or whatever on like a harness. So it was really a matter of safety. That’s a great, yeah. Early than Halen is a great example of a.

[00:43:36] Really creative solutions. See, this is why we can’t record this late because of the sun right now,

[00:43:41] Andrew: um, required

[00:43:43] Emily: modern solutions. They had really great, um, solutions for, for their problems. Um,

[00:43:50] Andrew: okay, so this isn’t a negative of like a lack of attention to detail.

[00:43:55] Emily: Yeah, that’s exactly it. Um, and then there were other things that they would do that were probably a little bit less, um, appropriate for well, but like for money saving things to get like the show broken down a lot faster.

[00:44:13] I forget exactly what they did. But David Lee Roth had like some creative solutions for that. And if it worked, it was like, basically if you tear down faster, you can party or you get a bonus or something like that. I forget what incentivization. Yeah. He really was good at incentivizing people to. And in turn, save them a lot of money.

[00:44:38] So good businessman in that, in that regard.

[00:44:42] Andrew: Right. Right. Cause like, if you’re setting up, if you’re loading in, you’re on a strict deadline, if you’re loading out, it’s not nearly as, unless there’s a, that makes

[00:44:52] Emily: sense. Yeah. Funny music writers. Um, van Halen. Oh, it was no brown. Eminem’s Mariah Carey wanted kittens

[00:45:06] Andrew: might be like the first time that resonated with Mariah Carey.

[00:45:11] Emily: Um, yeah. So some people do put a kittens does sound pretty funny. Uh, no brown m&ms van Halen’s 82 writer. Infamously say that under no circumstances where there to be brown MNM. Um, it was recently revealed this very specific request was to test whether the promoters were reading the writer and contract thoroughly.

[00:45:32] If the brown band got to the green room to discover brown m&ms, they knew it was highly likely another more important detail was miss. Right. Carrie wanted a 20 white kittens in 100 doves once, um, they got the dubs, but had to veto the kittens also like, you’ll see these writers and things like alcohol will often be just like crossed out they’re living contracts.

[00:46:02] Um, must why the doves? Why not?

[00:46:12] Andrew: I guess I just don’t understand. I make a terrible rock star. Cause I’m too pragmatic. I don’t care about,

[00:46:23] but that doesn’t, I don’t get.

[00:46:29] I okay. So like I I’ve jokingly said before then, I, I don’t know where the quote originally came from, but it’s the whole, like the problem with the world is too many people are asking why and not enough asking you why not? There’s some times I just can’t help asking why not, but why I have a hard time settling into the why not

[00:46:49] Emily: Kanye west asks that his driver only wears a hundred percent cotton clothing.

[00:46:57] Is that a religious thing? No mixed fibers.

[00:47:03] Andrew: I know old Testament Hebrew under the mosaic log would say that you can’t mix fibers. Uh, so that’s a, that’s a Levitical law. Yeah. That’d be a little critical. I right. ’cause that’s also like the same law that says you can’t eat pork and shellfish. And if you’re up a woman’s on her period, uh, that she NEC that she sits on his unclean, unless it’s watching like that kind of stuff.

[00:47:30] Yeah. It’s like same, same grouping of like very strange laws that shouldn’t apply anymore for anvil reasons I don’t need to get into right now. But I guess, I suppose it’s possible that he decided to take some of those on for funsies. Maybe that’s maybe it’s just part of his, like, like a spent to push his clothing company.

[00:47:53] If that’s one of their sticks. I don’t know anything about his

[00:47:55] Emily: brand. I don’t, I don’t want to bloodhound gang asked for one refrigerator, magnet of local interests, which I think is adorable.

[00:48:04] Andrew: Okay. That’s okay. That one I get, I

[00:48:06] Emily: like that one. I actually really fucking like that one.

[00:48:11] Andrew: Yeah. That’s great. Wait a minute.

[00:48:14] Emily: I love that. That’s smart. I like that. I should adopt that. I should adopt that, but I don’t ha I can’t put magnets on the front of my refrigerator because it’s stainless steel. I can only put them on the side. I can put them on the dishwasher though. Yeah.

[00:48:30] Andrew: Maybe I’ll ask her. I get a whiteboard for part of your home and just hang it up with magnets.

[00:48:37] Emily: Uh, Katy Perry asks that her driver will not start a conversation with her fair, frankly.

[00:48:44] Andrew: Don’t blame her.

[00:48:45] Emily: I don’t blame her either. Um, when Brittany Spears played the O two arena in 2011, her writer included efficient ship supper, supper, a framed photograph of princess, Diana McDonald’s cheeseburgers without the buns, and 100 things in prunes.

[00:49:06] Andrew: So someone was on a diet, but wanted some comfort food.

[00:49:13] Emily: I like the free, just bring your own fucking picture of princess. Diana. Goddammit.

[00:49:19] Andrew: That one feels a little, I mean, I guess was that before or after she passed, because I feel like if it’s after she passed the

[00:49:27] Emily: 2001. Yeah. So

[00:49:29] Andrew: after, um, so it feels a little over two. It is. Yeah.

[00:49:33] Emily: Yeah. That is a little gratuitous.

[00:49:37] Let’s see. Here’s one Drake once, once the via chapstick, the

[00:49:46] Andrew: band’s a chapstick brand

[00:49:47] Emily: that he’s attached to it. Okay. No, I don’t know why you would just not bring, I guess, just to make sure it’s always there. Um, here’s a nice one from Bush. No less than 10% of all security personnel should be female. Yeah, that’s actually really important.

[00:50:05] I got groped at a show once and I’d talked to security and, uh, I didn’t really want to explain what happened at, to a guy at the time. And I said, do you have any female security guards? And they said, not tonight. And I think he regretted not having security female security guard on that night.

[00:50:24] It’s weird. This, this, this article does not understand the why of that. They just say interesting. They think it’s, they think it’s a creepy. No, no. I think they think it’s like a creepy request, but no, that’s actually a great thing. And if you’re having an event with security, you should always have at least a few female security guards.

[00:50:48] Um, I don’t know, corn access to a rock, rock friendly lawyer, medical doctor, dentist, misuse, and or chiropractor. Wow. Oh, okay. That’s the be prepared,

[00:51:08] Andrew: Susan chiropractor. I could see like being on the road. Yeah. Other ones I don’t.

[00:51:19] And they needed some checkups and it was the only stop that they asked for it.

[00:51:23] Emily: I would, but the lawyer is like, you should have your own, right? Like everything else is like fine. But the lawyer is what gets me there. Rock friendly, rock friendly lawyer,

[00:51:38] Andrew: as opposed to,

[00:51:41] Emily: oh my fuck.

[00:51:43] Andrew: None of these blues lawyers, man

[00:51:47] Emily: lawyers, rock lawyers only.

[00:51:49] Um, Trent Reznor requested two boxes of cornstarch.

[00:51:59] Questions.

[00:52:01] Andrew: I have questions that I don’t think I want them to answered, I think is the problem.

[00:52:06] Emily: Oh, foo fighters. Um, they have the pickiest and most absurd request. According to this article. I think some, I think that’s a mean thing to say from use D they want some use DVDs, not new used ones. Just don’t want to watch some shit, no sports titles or Martin Lawrence to any magazine of spin, rolling stone or people that seems normal.

[00:52:31] Um, that show us you have a brain and fantastic interests. Um, th th this one thinks that people th this is there, like this one takes the cake, uh, as being absurd. Please make arrangements for leftover food to be collected by a local soup kitchen, homeless shelter. That’s not absurd, or our roadie that looks like Osama bin Ladin.

[00:52:57] Okay. That’s not very nice.

[00:53:01] Ooh,

[00:53:03] Andrew: I shouldn’t laugh, but yeah. I imagine if they’re friends with the road either. That was it agreed upon in joke.

[00:53:10] Emily: Yeah. Uh, and this is how specific writers have to be iced down beer. Yes. You do have to request that it’s cold. Yes. You actually do a cooler with ice, small box of emergency shower, gel DVDs used they’re fine.

[00:53:27] And magazines, Metallica.

[00:53:31] Andrew: They want, they want to be re they don’t want to waste food. They want to have a little bit of entertainment, but they’re not asking for brand new stuff. So yeah. It’s not wasteful. Yeah. That that’s not that weird.

[00:53:44] Emily: That’s not that weird. Um, Metallica, one’s hot breakfast for a hundred people, two gallons of verges.

[00:53:51] You can think of nine or so. Brands of serious. I mean, if they have a hundred people working for them, why the fuck wouldn’t they want breakfast for a hundred of them and breakfast,

[00:54:00] Andrew: the best meal? Um, I was just, I hit the gym this morning on the way home. I stop at a store for something real quick, and then they had steak on sale, which then turned into, I got sourdough bread and eggs and avocados.

[00:54:15] And I did all the Kotter toast and steak for breakfast.

[00:54:17] Emily: Uh, Gnarls Barkley asked for one pack of Magnum condoms.

[00:54:26] Andrew: Right? Was he collecting them? I suppose

[00:54:29] Emily: also ask for at least two pairs of white men’s athletic socks, Swisher sweet blends.

[00:54:36] Andrew: In case the condoms aren’t

[00:54:37] Emily: needed and bottles of Hennessy and grey goose.

[00:54:44] This one’s nice. Uh, Ozzy once, uh, an ear nose and throat doctor available.

[00:54:50] Andrew: I mean, yeah, he’s straining his voice all the time. That makes sense.

[00:54:54] Emily: Also three oxygen tanks available at Lowden

[00:55:01] Andrew: that knowing it’s Ozzy I’d imagine that has to be drug-related, but I’m not sure how, because I’m innocent.

[00:55:09] Emily: No, I don’t know if that’s drug-related they might just be Ozzy related. Um, I mean, just having Oxy oxygen gives you, gives you energy and this doctor has to be able to administer a B12 shot. So my guess is he just needs it for like an X needed it for an extra boost of energy.

[00:55:32] Andrew: Um, um, if he’s playing along set, I suppose maybe I’m just being too

[00:55:36] Emily: harsh. M I a as for female extras at every tourist stop, that’s kinda cool. Yeah. Lots of stage presence. So they just be like standing on stage. That’s kind of cool th this easier than taking extras along with you, man. Halen, the MnMs, uh, Steve Aoki, one to two medium sized cakes, reading D I M M a K

[00:56:13] O D Mac. The

[00:56:18] Andrew: only, honestly the only strange one is the hunter dubs to me so far, like for like outlandish,

[00:56:24] Emily: uh, he also wants an inflatable boat or dinghy

[00:56:30] for confetti blast machines. He had asked me about confetti machines and that the whole study yes. For I can get the confetti machine sometimes a share once a wig room.

[00:56:47] Just for the wigs also black solo cups, not red ones. Classy. Yes. Um, Mary J Blige. One’s a private toilet with a new toilet seat. Yeah. I respect it. I respect it. I really do. Oh, and she requests, this is again, she must have had a bad experience because she requests specifically hot and cold running water.

[00:57:20] Yeah.

[00:57:21] Andrew: All right. Well, I’ve got nothing else for the article

[00:57:26] Emily: Molly, a sub machine gun.

[00:57:31] Andrew: Yeah, that sounds about right.

[00:57:33] Emily: Madonna 20 international phone lines that would get exed out immediately. I’m sorry. Sorry. There’s two more, three more Marilyn Manson asked for a baldheaded toothless sex worker that got X out.

[00:57:50] I’m sure.

[00:57:54] Iggy pop asked for a Bob hope impersonator.

[00:58:00] I think he just wanted to see if he could get it sometimes. That’s what you do. Um, his, I do remember reading his it’s pretty long. Um, entire pages dedicated to live mixes. Again, it must’ve had a bad experience requesting someone who can speak English, a rant about Santiago Compostela, two dedicated, intensely loyal security people, whole strong coffee, enormous pizzas, baguettes chocolate.

[00:58:34] Yum, yum, Dianne, nice beer dinner for 10 playing cards. Uh, his room has to be designed by somebody quote loose with a little bit of flair and finally Mariah Carey with her dubs. Yes. She also wanted pink card carpet. You want to be comfortable, but what I want to know what specific show this was, cause that cannot possibly be the ask for every single show.

[00:59:02] They can’t. There has to have been like some very specific because she wants a rolls Royce, pink carpet, pink podium, confetti sheet, butterflies, 80 security guards, and a 15 person entourage. Yeah. Cool. Well, that was, I haven’t done that a long time. That’s that was fun. Iggy Pop’s is and the food fighters are as wild as I remember them being.

[00:59:32] Andrew: Yeah. If you had to hang out with one, who would you hang out with? The other answer.

[00:59:38] Emily: What was your answer? Oh yeah. I mean, I think Dave girl is, is the coolest, but Iggy is a legend and I would love to hang out with Iggy pop. I think they’re both legends. They are both legends, but I, I want to ask him so many, he, he has more things.

[01:00:02] I have questions about. Like, I’ve like, I want to ask him about some of these things. It also, he’s asking for enormous pizzas, like, so, and I like what he’s asking for. I definitely do not want to hang out with Gnarls Barkley.

[01:00:22] Andrew: Yeah. I can’t say I, uh, we care to either.

[01:00:25] Emily: I would want to hang out with Mariah also. Can you imagine. Oh, so there’s a source for this. The one last thing before we go, a source told the daily mail, we did manage the source of the doves. We were going to release into the sky, but the kittens proved terribly difficult.

[01:00:44] Like how can we find in look over, oh, this was a Christmas celebration. This was a, this was a, this was a unique show. So I guess the doves were to be released. I don’t know what the kittens were for other than serotonin,

[01:01:01] Andrew: let them run around on stage and hope they don’t fall off the edge.

[01:01:03] Emily: Yeah. Oh, I forgot.

[01:01:04] I did have a what’s new in other new, my blue blocker

[01:01:10] Andrew: glasses. There you go. I’m a minor in my backpack, which are, oh no. I left them on my desk at work. Oops.

[01:01:19] Emily: Yeah, he’s a very intense Amber tinted, as you can

[01:01:23] Andrew: see,

[01:01:26] Emily: they’ve kind of, I saw an ad for glasses. That looks very like Jeffrey Dahmer’s glasses. And then they were called the D a M I R.

[01:01:35] And someone said like, Jeff, like Jeffrey Dahmer, but spelled differently. And then I guess they weren’t American. The company is kept like winking at those comments. And finally someone said, do you understand that these both look like and are named after an notorious cannibalistic, serial killer? And then they were meant to that one.

[01:01:58] They’re like, oh yeah, we’ve renamed them.

[01:02:06] Cool. Well, that’s all I’ve

[01:02:08] Andrew: if someone’s saying, are you sure is like a pretty, fairly safe, generic response for any social media managers might not know entirely what their product.

[01:02:17] Emily: Yeah. And then figuring it, then someone actually spelling it out for them. They’re like,

[01:02:25] Andrew: oh, Hey boss, you can take

[01:02:28] Emily: a look at this. Oh, that’s that’s who Jeffrey Dahmer is. Oh,

[01:02:33] Andrew: yay. The boss walks over. He’s like, oh, I was wondering how long it would take for someone to notice

[01:02:40] Emily: that lately medially everybody, just, nobody wanted to, nobody thought they needed to spell it out. I guess. That’s all I got any there’s none on ’em to her Dahmer, I guess.

[01:02:54] Sorry. Shivan the dome, the doves. Well, um, please like comment, subscribe everywhere. Spotify does, um, reviews now. So you can review on Spotify and iTunes. Um, yeah. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Thanks for understanding until next time. My name is Emily. My name’s Zander goodbye.