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#GuitarTok Talk Episode 6: Fake Tutorials, Real Rage

On this week’s #GuitarTokTalk, Emily finds herself absolutely aghast at fake guitar tutorials and how they have more views than truly incredible players.

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 [00:00:00] Emily: Welcome to get offset. And my name is Emily and I just, I heard, I heard that even working really hard this week and in last week. And I want you to know I’m really proud of you. Uh, yeah. My name is Emily. This is good offset. This is guitar talk talk where I watch guitar related Tik TOK videos. React to them.

 

[00:00:26] And we get to enjoy, enjoy the wonderful world of tic TAC together because tic-tac-toe is always a little bit better with a friend. Don’t you think? I think so. So, uh, yeah, let’s get to it. I’ve just queued up a bunch of things. I don’t really know what’s in there. Hopefully no repeats, cause I’ll have to edit those out.

[00:00:43] And I prefer to keep my editing to a minimum because I value my time. All right, let’s get to it.

[00:00:54] Tiktok Person: You can do it.

[00:01:23] Emily: Nice vibe to begin with. All

[00:01:26] Tiktok Person: right. I grabbed their most expensive guitar in the store.

[00:01:31] Emily: That’s the wrong form of there, unless you were saying, unless you say that their most expensive guitar and then in which case you’d be right. So I can already tell this is going to be.

[00:01:57] I agree. Listen, some guitars you really just need to ask for help because even though they are insured, there are deductibles and, uh, you don’t want to be responsible for, for that. But. I imagine that is one of those fake Tik TOK skits that you hear so much about also again, wrong form of there.

[00:02:25] I grabbed their most good. Also. Why don’t we just say I grabbed the most expensive guitar in the store here. I am also. Congratulations. Congratulations for play. Oh my gosh. I should have done my red leather, yellow leather. Exercises. Um, congratulations for playing a $15,000 guitar. I’m really happy for you.

[00:02:51] I don’t think that doesn’t look like a $15,000 guitar. Actually. Let’s look at it. Their

[00:02:55] Tiktok Person: most expensive guitar in the store,

[00:03:00] Emily: unless that’s vintage. That’s not $15,000.

[00:03:08] oh, okay. Sorry. This wasn’t actually staged. My boss just loves to play around and say funny stuff like this and ran with it. It’s a joke. So kind of stage kind of not

[00:03:21] Tiktok Person: all right next. What’s this.

[00:03:35] Okay.

[00:03:47] W w

[00:03:53] Emily: I mean, obviously that’s not what that does, not the sound those strings were making. Just, just to be absolutely clear. The sounds were like,

[00:04:16] so unless you have it tuned opposite, that’s not what that sounded like

[00:04:20] Tiktok Person: at all.

[00:04:24] Emily: How does that have 1.5 million light? This app is the stupidest place on the internet. People complain that sweater is a hellscape, but this is why Tik TOK is the stupidest place on the internet. Jeez, I’m actively angry. No, stop it. Okay.

[00:05:08] Oh, look at her smile. She knows it’s good.

[00:05:19] That’s my husband’s favorite Christmas song. Well that I’m in rocking around the Christmas tree though. I’ve never really learned either of those. Maybe I should. I have 11 months over 11 months to learn it, so I need to get my act together. All right, next, thank you for, thank you for sharing that. Why are the handles getting cut off?

[00:05:46] Oh, no, I don’t want that. Uh,

[00:05:49] Tiktok Person: shrink.

[00:05:52] Emily: There we go. I’m Lee. I’m letting you in on the secret. I have how I do this, so that was char shreds. Great. I’m going to follow you.

[00:06:19] Y what is this? What

[00:06:22] Tiktok Person: is,

[00:06:28] Emily: what is this stupid ass trend? And this one has half a million likes. This is not. This is not educational content. Also, this is not showing you how to play guitar in any way, shape or form. I think anybody who’s watching this video probably already knows that, but damn, this is aggressively stupid, aggressively stupid.

[00:06:53] Oh my

[00:06:54] Tiktok Person: God.

[00:06:58] I just wrote this new guitar. I don’t know what you think. I would

[00:07:01] Emily: love to

[00:07:02] Tiktok Person: tell you. I think

[00:07:08] I just wrote this guitar riff. Tell me what you think.

[00:07:17] Emily: Oh, stop playing modern. Very modern, very powerful. Very nice goes to show you can write modern pop songs with guitar. The first comment is extremely rude. The first comment says TBH, to be honest, not that great, basic AAF too much. I would say you mean

[00:07:41] Tiktok Person: that’s not nice.

[00:07:44] Emily: And then some other person says I love the rubber bridge.

[00:07:48] And then the creator says it’s a Woodbridge. I love that. I love it when that kind of dumb shit happens. You make a video and then someone says for sumptuous, thanks, presumptuous about your content or like something in your video. And you’re like,

[00:08:03] Tiktok Person: no.

[00:08:06] Emily: Someone saw, ah, sorry, wrong side. Oh, this guitar. And one of my tech talk videos, he said, oh, it looks like a Mustang buddy with a Bronco neck.

[00:08:16] I’m like, yes, that’s what I’ve said. It is in every single video I’ve ever made about this guitar. God dude, give me really annoyed. Let’s just watch the video. Dammit.

[00:08:33] Tiktok Person: Oops.

[00:08:49] Emily: the, the stair was a little too intense for me to be honest. My dude, uh,

[00:09:01] Tiktok Person: I

[00:09:01] Emily: didn’t know, the Arctic monkeys were such a like staple of, of guitar playing now. So this is really an interesting thing to learn after watching all these Tik TOK videos. It’s one of the more interesting things I’ve learned.

[00:09:44] so like they’re obviously going to be sound differences and real Riggs. Between a $100 guitar and a $3,000 guitar. I think that if you take away things like distortion and compression, those, those differences will be a lot more obvious. Um, those that is applying a lot of, uh, there’s giving things like anemic pickups and bad, um, or undervalued tone pots, like a lot of help.

[00:10:13] Um, you can do that through, through productive production means. But something that I think the biggest thing that you start to get, and after a while, there’s not so much as a cost benefit, um, that does tend to sort of Peter out at a point, I think around $1,500, um, until you get to. A lot, a lot of money.

[00:10:40] Uh, I don’t think you’re going to notice the differences in guitars quite as much. Um, but the differences in playability feel, uh, quality of construction, uh, robustness of a $100 guitar versus, um, a 1000, even a $500 guitar, uh, I think is going to be pretty, pretty significant. And that’s the kind of thing that you can’t always convey in a video.

[00:11:06] Like, I love doing guitar, pickup demos. I really do. Um, I don’t do very many of them because they cost more for me to do them because it’s a longer process. I. I do an AB test. I have to film it all on the same day. I filmed the old pickups. I go, I swap out for the new pickups and then I film. So everything is the same, same guitar, same day, same environment, because that can change one day from the other thing about how you’re talking voice, your speaking voice or your singing voice can be different.

[00:11:39] I’m just waking up the next morning. It’s not different for instruments. And I want to keep it a little bit more exact and the same. So it’s, it ends up being like a full day for me for filming. And then people say, oh, I can’t really, I can’t always hear the difference. And then in, but usually you can’t. I think here the difference, um, especially in terms of how like new pickups and more expensive pickups, uh, and guitars respond to your playing your attack, how they interact with, uh, things in your signal chain, how they sound clean and feel clean.

[00:12:26] Uh, I think those are more significant. So yeah, one of the comments says no difference between $100 and $3,000. First comment says yes, there is. And then the next comment says, clearly you missed the jokes. Uh, yeah. I don’t know if that was like a full joke, but,

[00:12:53] Tiktok Person: um,

[00:12:56] There,

[00:12:56] there

[00:12:57] Emily: are differences. I promise and

[00:13:00] Tiktok Person: rant.

[00:13:24] Emily: I did not expect

[00:13:45] I am really sorry to inform you that that has fewer views than the fake video showing the numbers and the open guitar strings. That was just completely false. I’m very sorry. This only has somehow 386,000 likes in the first one of those stupid open, open, open, open, open had 1.5 million

[00:14:06] Tiktok Person: likes

[00:14:12] Emily: stuff. It doesn’t seem fair. It doesn’t seem fair. It’s not fair. Go follow. Uh, at Marson M a R C I N. Dot music I am

[00:14:26] Tiktok Person: right now, ex.

[00:14:47] Emily: I don’t have anything to say about that. I was fine. That was nice. I like it. I liked the lights. The glow is very nice. I want people to always show their fretting hand in those videos.

[00:15:05] They also get wanting to show off the Strat. Does it

[00:15:08] Tiktok Person: $275,000 guitar played better than a $100 guitar? Can you play that original 1960 Gibson, Les Paul, the holy grail of electric guitars. This is a hundred dollars eBay.

[00:15:39] Can you hear,

[00:15:41] Emily: can you hear the difference? The

[00:15:43] Tiktok Person: $274,900 difference? Does it 200.

[00:15:49] Emily: I see, I listened not that much of a difference, but that guy’s not going to fucking tell me. You’re not going to tell me, sir, that it wasn’t a lot more fun to play the quarter of a million dollar plus guitar over the hundred dollar guitar.

[00:16:05] You’re not going to tell me the frets four better. The electronics weren’t better that the intonation was probably better. You’re not going to, you’re not going to tell me it. Wasn’t an all around better guitar.

[00:16:15] Tiktok Person: And again,

[00:16:18] Emily: Posing distortion on things, I think really changes it. And, and like, not to say that like bullshit pickups, can’t be really good.

[00:16:27] Cause I can

[00:16:29] Tiktok Person: sounds you should

[00:16:30] Emily: always play in guitar stores that will

[00:16:32] Tiktok Person: never, and no. Anyway,

[00:16:35] Emily: oh, I did this one last week. I really want to protect.

[00:17:03] Tiktok Person: Easiest songs to play on guitar part one. So the song we’re going to be doing today is freaks by serve curse. So let’s just dive straight into that band. So there’s two guitars in this song, one’s doing the rhythm and one’s doing the lead. So you can do whichever part you like the most. So the rhythm part, it’s pretty fast.

[00:17:20] It’s 180 beats per minute. So it’s going to be pretty fast, but, um, It’s pretty much bar chords. Now, if you don’t know how to do bar chords, you could just replace these with normal power chords. So the chords are a major and sharp minor. So you’re just going to be strumming that, and you can strung these

[00:17:37] Emily: in many ways, cause it is pretty fast.

[00:17:39] Tiktok Person: So you could do something like this.

[00:17:45] Whatever you feel comfortable with. So it’s just,

[00:17:56] sharp, minor so that we’ll be backing it and delete. It’s pretty simple to all it is, is it’s a knife for of the east string to the 10th fret of the B string ninth, fret of the B string as well. Yeah, that, and then you go back up to the 10th. So you just keep that repeating.

[00:18:20] Now this, uh, this part, you just want to play the 12th fret of the high east string and then go to the 10th. So altogether.

[00:18:35] I play on guitar

[00:18:36] Emily: where people play that, is it,

[00:18:40] Tiktok Person: wait,

[00:18:42] Emily: I don’t, I wasn’t paying attention to what you say.

[00:18:55] Tiktok Person: What was he

[00:18:55] Emily: doing? Sorry, I should’ve be paying attention there.

[00:19:00] Tiktok Person: So that we’ll be backing it and delete. It’s pretty simple to all it is, is it’s a nine foot of the east string. Oh, the temperature of the string ninth, fret of the B

[00:19:12] Emily: string as well. So I thought I was doing something wrong.

[00:19:23] Tiktok Person: That’s pretty easy.

[00:19:27] Emily: Can somebody please tell me what song that is? Cause I don’t remember already. I forgotten

[00:19:35] nice, concise tutorial. Evan Novoa gossip girl here. Surf curse freaks.

[00:19:48] Tiktok Person: Good to know.

[00:20:04] Great job.

[00:20:10] Start these videos.

[00:20:16] Emily: It’s very

[00:20:16] Tiktok Person: aggressive.

[00:20:20] Ooh, double-neck as she checked us out,

[00:20:27] kinda play the forbidden ref your guitar center. I’ve always wanted to do it and see what happens. And here we go.

[00:20:47] Emily: Nothing. That’s what I thought

[00:20:52] you look at me looking around.

[00:20:57] I don’t think anybody actually gives a shit,

[00:21:03] Tiktok Person: huh? I guess no one heard it. Guess

[00:21:08] Emily: what? Nobody cares. What you play in guitar store. That’s just a joke. That’s just a joke. But also I think it’s probably passes prime of being extremely annoying. Um, so maybe that’s part of, maybe it’s just past this prime of being like way overplayed. I think maybe it’s going to be that, um, surf curse freak.

[00:21:34] So X, I don’t know, man. Arctic monkeys. I apparently I find.

[00:21:42] Tiktok Person: Play the forbidden riff and guitar center. We get mad,

[00:21:48] Emily: bring his own guitar,

[00:21:53] his own guitar and little mini amp. And that’s more, that’s more annoying than playing stairway.

[00:22:02] Tiktok Person: Going on right now. Do you recognize this breath

[00:22:15] Emily: to be clear? He’s being asked to leave because he’s being annoying, brought his own guitar and with a little sound like a honey amplifier or something.

[00:22:30] Tiktok Person: People don’t do this.

[00:22:32] Emily: Don’t don’t make, don’t make life harder for retail people for your internet points. Go make life harder for billionaires for your internet points.

[00:22:41] Tiktok Person: Damn.

[00:22:53] Emily: Okay. And when he showed the turntable, I was, I was really afraid. He was going to slap the record. I was like to see, at least that guy was doing the one six slap and then was actually playing the last six of it. If it made like a, but I’ll sound like Seinfeld ask interests out. I would have been really.

[00:23:19] Oh that one’s titled guitar lesson number three,

[00:23:23] Tiktok Person: please know

[00:23:30] you can do it please. Oh God. Oh God.

[00:23:38] That’s scary.

[00:23:47] Emily: I got to ask y’all are those, which way is it? Are you really afraid of this happening when you’re, when you restrain and tune up a guitar? Cause like the one time that happened to me, It was because I was just being so, so stupid and I’m like, miss the Okta, like I was going up in Okta by accident. Like I was very young, very done and, um, broke a string and yeah, it was a little frightening, but are we really.

[00:24:29] I mean, I’ve seen that joke a lot and I just, I just can’t relate to it, I guess. It’s so tell me in the comments, is that like a real fear you have? And if so, maybe you should get some, um, safety goggles

[00:24:46] I’m embracing my inner, the tent is very hunter S Thompson. The shape is decidedly.

[00:24:53] Tiktok Person: Not, these are my blue blocks. Next, how to play smells like teen spirit. It’s one power cord in four spots, the same rhythm power cord on the first fret on the east high Marnie.

[00:25:11] Emily: This is like, I think that this is the one of the songs that I just will never forget.

[00:25:25] I feel like I felt the slide is kind of essential there

[00:25:41] Tiktok Person: that’s

[00:25:42] Emily: if you, if you don’t have that one on muscle memory, then you must have been learning some other songs. You look good. Don’t

[00:25:52] Tiktok Person: change. You look good. Don’t change. You look good. Don’t change. You look good. Don’t you look good. Don’t change.

[00:26:00] Emily: This is like the, the, the ages old trick of just taping over things.

[00:26:05] I, you need stronger tape. You need like gaff tape. You need strong. Like some guitars, especially jazz masters, where you don’t want to actually hit the rhythm circuit. You’ll see just like fully, totally taped over because they don’t want to accidentally hit something. They don’t want to,

[00:26:26] I guess, a song from the drama

[00:26:43] I have no idea what that is.

[00:27:08] Tiktok Person: If

[00:27:08] Emily: I’m being completely honest, that does not look easier than learning guitar, unless you just cannot bring yourself to get calluses. I don’t like it. Oh, it even has the chord names on it. So F minor C a minor. Thanks. I hate it.

[00:27:32] Oh my

[00:27:33] Tiktok Person: God.

[00:27:39] The

[00:27:39] Emily: other video was a parody of this, this

[00:27:43] Tiktok Person: specific stupid ass video,

[00:27:51] 2.8 million lines.

[00:27:57] Emily: Oh, my God. I did a video showing you all how to play. Fingerstyle arrangements of Christmas time is here in baby. It’s cold outside. And those got like 500 views. Uh,

[00:28:11] Tiktok Person: dammit.

[00:28:19] 99% of people. Couldn’t tell you the

[00:28:21] Emily: name of this song after hearing only five notes. Now

[00:28:24] Tiktok Person: tell me,

[00:28:25] are

[00:28:25] Emily: you wanting, is it because you wrote the song? Oh, sorry. The special ones. If you are

[00:28:33] Tiktok Person: like the plus sign and if not, I click the plus sign anyway. It’s not hurting anybody, but can you guess this song? You got it.

[00:28:41] Dah, dah, dah.

[00:28:45] Having Rick rolled,

[00:28:53] dah, dah, dah,

[00:28:54] Emily: dah. It, I got it. That’s that’s it right.

[00:29:00] Tiktok Person: Putting an apple or a tag inside guitar. Smart. I am going to college and want to try to make sure my instrument doesn’t get stolen. I bought this sticky man from

[00:29:12] Emily: Amazon. Okay. Why don’t people just talk over there.

[00:29:21] Tiktok Person: It’s a 2020 Taylor academy guitar. It plays like a dream.

[00:29:29] I will be able to change out the battery when it dies, find it. If it gets left somewhere and keep track of places, I played gigs

[00:29:38] Emily: putting an app. I think you should all put air tags in your gig bags and guitar cases, especially.

[00:29:48] Write your name and the cavity, your guitar. Take the, take the pick guard off. Write your name in there. Keep your serial numbers in a spreadsheet so that if something happens, you it’s right there. Give it to the police, send it to pawn shops across the country. And. Also puts your instruments that you ever gig on a separate artifacts insurance policy.

[00:30:17] Um, cause it will not be covered under your renters or your homeowners if you play out. Um, my stuff is on a, an artifacts policy and my deductible for my deductible is really, really low. I think it’s $250. So.

[00:30:39] Uh, let’s do one more.

[00:30:47] Tiktok Person: Ooh, that’s going to

[00:30:48] Emily: be weird

[00:30:49] Tiktok Person: tension.

[00:30:51] Emily: Okay. What do you, why? That’s fine. Fine.

[00:30:55] Tiktok Person: Okay.

[00:31:05] Emily: The caption for this is, this is an old guitar. Don’t worry. I’m I’m not worried. I, I don’t think this would hurt the guitar if you didn’t leave it like that for a long period of time. I, that’s not the, a great angle for the strings to be resting in there. So, I mean, I could see that not being great in the.

[00:31:29] I kind of like to end on a higher note than that. So I’m just going to keep going.

[00:31:33] Tiktok Person: String difference,

[00:31:34] Emily: of course, is, uh, you don’t need a strap because it just floats in front of you, the strings behave about the same. Um, but it can resonate really well because it’s not dead and against your body. And it sounds about

[00:31:46] Tiktok Person: right here, we’ll play something.

[00:31:51] Emily: Oh, this is kind of cool.

[00:32:11] that was it. All right. I’m going to sell it. Never seen that before. Huh? Very, very cool. All right. Well, thank you again for joining me for another episode of guitar talk, talk. I hope you enjoyed it. Um, the differences between like watching the, for you page that I’ve tailored to my weird interests versus the hashtag guitar town versus hashtag guitar.

[00:32:37] Very different hashtag guitar seem to have a lot of. Uh, kind of beginner, tutorial stuff, and hashtag guitar talks seem to have a lot of nerdy kind of meme stuff in it. So it was really kind of fun to see the differences between, uh, those two hashtags and how they’re used and what seems to do well. Um, I will say if you were one of the people who are making those stupid open string guitar, videos, stop,

[00:33:05] Tiktok Person: you

[00:33:05] Emily: know, how in the intro I said, I know you’re working hard. I know.

[00:33:12] Tiktok Person: I’m mad at you.

[00:33:16] Emily: Well, you know, please like comment, subscribe below. Check us out at patrion.com/get offset. Um, we have merchant gas at podcast.com/shop. Oh, and the patriarchy joined at the $5 level or above you get access to our discord server, which is pretty fun. Uh, check me on Tik TOK at, uh, get off. Had a pretty big week over there last week.

[00:33:39] Um, yeah. Uh, that’s most of what I’ve got for you today. Uh, thanks for watching. Thanks for understanding until next time. My name is Emily.