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Reacting to Controversial Guitar Opinions on TikTok

So you think you have a controversial guitar opinion! We’ll see about that…

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[00:00:00] Emily: Welcome to get offset. My name is Emily and today I’m going to react to some, uh, controversial guitar opinions. I don’t know if you follow me on Tik TOK, but I am on. Tik TOK. And, um, a couple of weeks ago I reacted to a viral tick tock asking, asking someone what their, uh, controversial guitar opinion was.

[00:00:29] Uh, tuition gentlemen said it is that boss pedals are good, actually. Um, you just don’t know how to use them. So that’s the one I’ll start with my reaction to that one. So, um, uh, here here’s that video, what’s

[00:00:47] Tik Tok Person: a controversial guitar opinion. Boss makes good pedals. You just don’t know how to use them to whom

[00:00:53] Emily: is that controversial?

[00:00:55] The same sweater to say that like the most popular guitar pedal brand, since like this, the eighties is, is good, actually. Is as controversial as saying Taylor swift is good, actually cardigan, maybe it’s controversial the snobs, but who cares? Everything is controversial is snobs. That’s why they’re stops.

[00:01:30] Tik Tok Person: What’s a con.

[00:01:31] Emily: So, so. Jordan’s point was that people shit on boss pedals all the time. And I agree people do shit on boss pedals a lot, and those people are snobs. Uh, people do specifically shit on the metal zone, um, until they see people who actually know how to do know how to use it. That is that’s true.

[00:01:55] I will agree with him on that one, but I still think. That, uh, you know, everything is going to be controversial is snobs. And that, um, to, to say that something that’s popular as good, actually just in general, I kind of feel like that’s not a controversial take by its very. Existence. I just don’t think you can say that something that’s very popular, as good as controversial.

[00:02:28] Uh, I don’t think it’s controversial anybody, but like critics and snobs and I, I stand by it. Yeah. So let’s see. What’s next. You’re going to see the same venture. A lot of times what’s a

[00:02:39] Tik Tok Person: controversial, the guitar opinion

[00:02:42] Emily: might get some shift for this, but some of us do not like to play eruption, Slayer, stairway to heaven for you.

[00:02:51] Some bus are not a Spotify playlist that you can just press play on one of my, oh, he’s not done. I live shows. I literally had someone say, if you don’t know how to play eruption, then your guitar is invalid. Everything you do is invalid. Fuck you, man. Fuck that person. No, this is not fun. I’m not going to do it.

[00:03:13] I don’t give a shit. If people are saying, oh, well you will get more gifts. They’ll you’ll get more views. Yeah. And then I won’t be. I’ll be what everybody else wanted me to be. Fuck that. No. Um, the only time I wish I wasn’t starting with such a profane one, cause that might affect my address. Shit. Um, that I’ll do other people’s music is when I’m doing karaoke with, you know, learning how to sing, because I think that’s the best way to learn how to think personally.

[00:03:43] If I don’t have fun doing it, I’m not going to do it. I do not

[00:03:47] Tik Tok Person: care.

[00:03:49] Emily: Okay. So, um, I would agree that firstly, I don’t know how I play the songs that he named either. I’m sure I learned stairway to heaven at some point I never learned eruption. Um, there are parts of Freebird I learned at one point just because like I had to learn in a guitar lesson, but.

[00:04:11] And I agree that look, if you’re not having fun learning and it doesn’t matter. And like the idea that you have to know Freebird or eruption or stairway to have them to get gigs is wrong. That’s just wrong. You have to learn whatever songs you have to play at the gig. Like you’re not, you’re not going to get a gig in a van Halen cover band or tribute band, or like I’m an eighties cover band.

[00:04:34] If you can’t play some of the songs. That’s true. But when he says that, the only time he plays covers is if he’s doing karaoke, he thinks the best way to learn how to sing is to sing on people’s songs. Then I think the best way to learn how to play guitar is to play other people’s songs also. So I don’t really, I don’t really jive with that logic.

[00:04:58] I think the best way to learn guitar is to play other people’s songs, but yeah, still sing staying true to yourself. Is important. I only, I don’t think the first part of his opinion too, it should be controversial that like, you don’t have to learn like these iconic riffs. You don’t have to learn those iconic rifts.

[00:05:16] I don’t think there’s anything bad about learning them. And now look at some point he’s making either, but I do think that the best way to learn in guitars to learn. Um, from these, uh, people who were came before you and to learn other people’s stuff, you can’t just, you’re not just going to reinvent the wheel.

[00:05:37] Like you’re not, you’re not going to make a better mousetrap starting on. Also, you cannot possibly make well there, there’s no such thing as a better mouse trap. The current mouse traps are great as a bad analogy. All right, what’s next? Actually, I think I know what’s next, I think is my favorite. What’s a controversial guitar.

[00:05:55] Tik Tok Person: All right guys. I

[00:05:55] Emily: promise this is probably the last one. The read rock music is another radio anymore is that guitar players are too busy trying to impress each other then to write actual songs that regular people want to hear. I a hundred percent agree with this in a lot of ways. I think that a lot of guitars are more interested and showing off and shredding than creating.

[00:06:22] Riffs or music that serves the song. I truly do believe that. Um, I just think it’s part of the culture of one upmanship and it’s part of the snob culture as well. And I think we’re getting kind of farther away from that. Um, one of the things I liked about she shreds and I still like about shisha is.

[00:06:45] Even though it’s called she shreds. It’s the shredding to them was never about like a technical element. It was more about, um, emotion and musicality and just like doing your thing, um, in a way that serves the music. So I feel like that’s kinda more. I don’t think that’s the only reason you don’t hear more rock music or more guitar in pop music.

[00:07:09] I feel like productions are often so big that there’s not a lot of room for, um, guitar in songs, but you look back to a lot of pop music from, from older days and rock music really did feature that guitar. I think most prominently, if we want to talk about guitar as it’s a popular guitar opinion. You look at some of the songs that have guitar and now, um, Liz’s juice has a guitar and it, and it’s just a very nice laid back stuff.

[00:07:38] Um, some stuff I think there was some daft punk that had some guitar and then, and it’s very much like kind of laid back funk stuff. Um, now Roger’s inspired disco kind of things. And you would see that a lot and kind of like snare. Uh, purposive kind of guitar stuff. It really existed to serve the song, uh, less show off kind of things, but people, you know, the thing about guitarists also is that you’re up there, your front of the stage.

[00:08:07] Um, you’re kind of a centralized part of the show. So you want to show off and be impressive and there’s nothing wrong with wanting to be impressive. I want to be impressive when I’m on stage. You know, I want to be a ham a little bit, and if you’ve seen me live, you know, I can be a ham on stage. Um, but it’s about serving the music.

[00:08:29] Absolutely. And, um, ultimately I think that if you’re just trying to show off, you’re not, you’re not doing that. Your, um, and you’re making it less accessible, accessible to, um, just casual list. And there’s a casual listeners are the ones who do the most of the music consumption in the world. Um, and if you think that is, um, going against your.

[00:08:56] Artistic vision. And obviously don’t do that. But if what you want to do is make a living as a musician, then I’m sorry, you need to do it. Then you need to like create something. That’s a commercial product. Them’s the breaks kid. You can’t like, if you want to make money with your art, you need to make art that people want to buy, or you need to do a better job selling it.

[00:09:22] Sorry, that’s starred thing today. All right, let’s see. What’s next.

[00:09:28] Tik Tok Person: What’s a controversial guitar opinion, expressive playing and feel

[00:09:34] Emily: versus virtuosity and shredding are not mutually

[00:09:37] Tik Tok Person: exclusive. What’s

[00:09:43] Emily: yeah, I mean, I guess not, we often think of them. That way. I think it’s easy to associate shredding with a very cold style of playing. I do. I think it’s kind of hard to do both. It’s very hard to do both. So it’s very impressive when you can do both. I think Princeton, both. I think Eddie van Halen did both.

[00:10:04] Um, I think a lot of the most famous players who were shredders did.

[00:10:11] Tik Tok Person: What’s a controversial gets harder pace. It is way too early for me to be dealing

[00:10:15] Emily: with this bullshit, but

[00:10:16] Tik Tok Person: fuck it. Here we go.

[00:10:18] Emily: There is a good brand of guitar. You can suck my fat fucking next. What’s a controversial guitar. Alright. I’m what the fuck is wrong with that guy?

[00:10:28] I’m just kidding. All right. Yeah. I’m not going to fucking deal with that one. Also. We have to S dude’s I’m just gonna, I’m just gonna say. Should I say it, should I say it? Should I say it I’m really torn on whether or not I should say it. This isn’t an opinion. I hold,

[00:10:54] you got to stop saying suck my Dick. Isn’t it. You got to stop saying it because you want, you know, it’s a nice thing to do for somebody. It’s a nice thing that you want people to do. So if you want people to do it for you, you gotta stop saying it as an insult. Cause it’s either homophobic or just like, if you’re gonna, if you’re going to insult everyone who does it for you, why is anyone going to do it?

[00:11:18] Stop using it as an insult also score. Awesome. What is like, listen, you’re getting extremely playable guitars for not a lot of money. They used to suck my friend, but my first guitar was a Squire. It didn’t turn me off playing like some shitty ass guitars do, like I got my first Squire strap. I stayed. I saved up money.

[00:11:44] I saved up allowance for like a year to buy that guitar and it changed my life. And, uh, if it had been a shitty ass guitar, it probably would turn me off guitar forever. That’s a big problem. That’s why I like when people like Ryan Burke get a shitty ass guitar and they release a video showing off the flaws and exp and because the thing is, if somebody saved up their mind, if I saved up my money for a year, got that guitar, I maybe I wouldn’t be a player.

[00:12:15] And maybe some of you will be happy, would be happy for that. Who knows? I want to go up and just pause and see the comment. Much rather see a Squire than an Epiphone. Squiring bad for what it is. Uh, dah, someone just lists a bunch of people who play Squires, who are famous, uh, that, that the de let’s see,

[00:12:44] um, uh, Bubba, bro, all the new square shit is dope. Mac DeMarco plays a square. That’s all I need. I love my Squires. Um, mine sounds great. After I’m messed with it, squares are great for people who don’t have big money to spend. I will say the affinity series, not so great, but in anything from like classic via paranormal series of, I think those are great, but the thing is like, you do have to put some work into them sometimes, like.

[00:13:14] You, you can’t expect perfection for the amount of money, but for what you get for the amount of money. It’s I just think it’s really hard to beat Harley Benton’s are also good, but the Harley advent in the, I have ways a fuck ton hurts my back.

[00:13:31] Tik Tok Person: Controversial guitar opinion. Vendor

[00:13:33] Emily: guitars that are made in Mexico are just as good and sometimes even better

[00:13:38] Tik Tok Person: than made in America fender guitars.

[00:13:40] There.

[00:13:42] Emily: I like the upside out of the class. Um, you know, when they first, when they. When they first like moved factories or something, they made some changes at the Mexico factory. There was a lack of doodle stuff. Like to be completely honest, like some nuts were slotted really weird. There were some big quality control issues there, but, um, I got the, the maiden.

[00:14:06] I have a couple of maiden Mexico’s I have the, her signature strap for starters and I have the player plus series Telecaster. Both of those I think are just phenomenal. The player plus. I don’t know, like it’s just it’s I think it’s really nice. I couldn’t find a flaw in it. Like I Navy, I don’t know.

[00:14:27] There’s not a flaw in it that has bothered me. Like it has the nice rolled fret edges. Great fret work. The neck is really fun. I like it. I’ve got no problems with it. Um, but it’s one of those things where, you know, maybe earlier on there were quality control issues and people are still like, have trouble getting past it, like early modeling amps or early solid-state amps.

[00:14:55] Not quite having the same, like right. Sound, but now, like the technology is pretty close, but people like. Have a hard time getting over things. So I feel like there’s like a psychological block there that some people just have issues with. I had a friend who, she, she said that her boyfriend was like, you need to get an American made tele, you need to get American made.

[00:15:20] And then she played my player plus, and she’s like, oh, I think I’ll save the extra $300 and just get one of these. And she’s in love. She’s an absolute. With it next,

[00:15:34] Tik Tok Person: what’s a controversial guitar opinion. I’m going to ruffle some feathers with this one, but here we go. Gibson is trash. You’re only paying for the name.

[00:15:43] Mexican bill fender guitars are better than American built fender to.

[00:15:47] Emily: Okay. So let’s start with the Gibson one. Cause there’s, obviously we already talked about the Mexican one. I don’t, I don’t know if I would say they’re better because I feel Mexican and American fender, I should say Gibson is trash and you’re only playing, paying for the name.

[00:16:02] I don’t think I can agree with that because I haven’t, I mean, I’ve played some high-end Gibsons and who them’s was nice. Those real nice. And I’ve also played like, um, that Les Paul Jr. Uh, for a while. And I really, really liked that. Um, and then those were affordable. Um, that was a really nice series. So, uh, also, I don’t know how controversial that is right now.

[00:16:31] I feel like it’s pretty pretty on brand for guitars to show and Gibson

[00:16:36] Tik Tok Person: Southern COVID.

[00:16:38] Emily: Whoa.

[00:16:49] We have a real edge Lord,

[00:16:56] which ones? So many of them, I think they’re fine. What, just in general.

[00:17:14] Tik Tok Person: Crybaby wall pedals or garbage. What, what,

[00:17:21] Emily: they’re fine. They do there. I actually really, I still really like them though. I have a, I played, uh, I think it was like the Jerry Cantrell signature wall. My label boss had one I’m like, I just think this is better. So, I mean, garbage. No, maybe the most popular and most accessible

[00:17:44] Tik Tok Person: it’s guys, grumpy boss pedals are actually the best pedals of the market.

[00:17:49] You just didn’t know how to use them or

[00:17:52] Emily: what the prompt was

[00:17:53] Tik Tok Person: or how to run them in sequence. Now, when it comes to guitar amps, you get what you pay for. So go out there and spend at least $1,500 on a half stack, not $200 on a line, six columns. They’re garbage.

[00:18:11] Emily: I mean, my first sample is like a flex ten two, and I really loved it, but I mean, not everybody can afford a $1,500, half stack.

[00:18:20] So I will say like an Anthem being the base of your tone in a lot of ways I would recommend, yeah, spend more money there. You’re going to wonder why you sound like ass. If you were playing through a really. Shitty am. Can you even get a line in six combine

[00:18:40] Tik Tok Person: for $200? I’ve been, as guitars are overrated. I’m not sorry.

[00:18:47] Emily: Uh, probably depends on what you want and you get

[00:18:50] Tik Tok Person: companies like Paul Reed Smith boring because every guitar looks the same, regardless of having different series and different models.

[00:18:57] Emily: Yeah. I kind of feel that way about them too.

[00:19:00] Tik Tok Person: You don’t need an expensive guitar to have a good sounding. You can take a hundred dollar guitar and throw a pair of Seymour Duncan, black winter pickups in it.

[00:19:09] That’s sounding guitar in the world.

[00:19:12] Emily: This is a metal head. I like seen, we’re not gonna pick pickups, but I would still probably get more than a hundred dollar guitar, because then you’re telling you, you, you, you have to, you have to invest a little bit in playability and the a hundred dollars guitars probably aren’t gonna.

[00:19:29] Tik Tok Person: If you’re not making a living, doing music and you buy $3,000 guitar, it just shows that you have more money than talent.

[00:19:38] Emily: Well, that’s just rude. Some people have a lot of talent and just don’t want to make a living doing it professionally. So people don’t want to ruin their hobby by monetizing it. And also if you can afford nice things. Then the, I don’t think we should be shaming people for spending money and propping up the community and builders because sometimes there’s $3,000 guitars are small builders.

[00:20:05] And I think that we should not be shaming people for doing that.

[00:20:11] Tik Tok Person: Basically boogie is not as good as everybody thinks. It’s just a cool name. And it’s fun to say. It’s pretty fun to say these are the best picks.

[00:20:20] Emily: Where’s my. These are the best picks that a little ones best picks wrong. Those are good.

[00:20:30] Tik Tok Person: I understand that it’s backwards in blurry, but they are Dunlop cortex.

[00:20:34] And, uh, of course everybody has their preferences. I prefer one millimeter. You don’t need a Telecaster to play country music, same tone with the right amp and the right pedals out of an Explorer. Flying V. Uh, Firebird, don’t be afraid to be different. Okay.

[00:20:53] Emily: Or a Jazzmaster east. You can tell he’s he’s he’s wind.

[00:20:57] He’s winding up for this one. You can tell God he has a lot.

[00:21:01] Tik Tok Person: You don’t need to have your store. Shouldn’t volume crank two 11 for a good metal tone. You just don’t know how to dial in your amp.

[00:21:09] Emily: That’s probably true. Look at dog.

[00:21:13] Tik Tok Person: Dogs are better than

[00:21:14] Emily: cats. Fuck this guy.

[00:21:17] Tik Tok Person: What’s a controversial guitar opinion.

[00:21:18] Shaming

[00:21:20] Emily: things is

[00:21:21] Tik Tok Person: so stupid

[00:21:22] Emily: as stupid. No one cared

[00:21:24] Tik Tok Person: the

[00:21:24] Emily: size of the guitars

[00:21:25] and normal

[00:21:25] Emily: people don’t want to hear you shred mold and stuff over the song. Yeah, that’s true. He’s he’s that guy was a hundred percent. That shouldn’t be controversial. That should not be controversial. Next what’s a

[00:21:38] Tik Tok Person: controversial guitar opinion.

[00:21:39] The only wood

[00:21:40] Emily: on an electric guitar that actually matters is the board and any like extra money spent on like a Winget body or something like that would probably be better spent on upgrading the electronics and the instrument. Oh yeah. Maybe sciences. I mean, pretty much in on that one, I think. Oh, Gibson fucking

[00:21:59] Tik Tok Person: sucks.

[00:22:00] Geez.

[00:22:05] Emily: See, I don’t think this is country. I don’t think that’s a controversial. I think a lot of people just really don’t like Gibson. Uh, oh, wait,

[00:22:15] Tik Tok Person: what

[00:22:15] Emily: does happening? Okay. See. Okay. So I just had to search like this person’s username and stitch to get all these stitches. And I guess someone, one stitch, a different one of those guys videos. So sorry,

[00:22:26] Tik Tok Person: tarping.

[00:22:31] Emily: I’m not sure how many people am I offend with this, but hear me out just because you’re technically skilled in whatever instrument you play or whatever John road music you played, whether you’re playing a freaking guitar or bass or piano, or even a saxophone of all things for all I care, doesn’t make you a good player.

[00:22:55] Let me ask. It’s one thing to have that technical skill in your hands or in your, you know, whatever it is, it really matters by the effort you put into it. And it makes a big difference because let’s put this in a case of metal to make it okay. Yeah. That one’s too long. Sorry if your opinions that, okay, so I’m just going to go.

[00:23:21] I’m just going to ignore the exam. Part, but I do think that the effort you put into something is I think it matters more. And if that’s like, the point is making, then I do agree with it more than any sort of intrinsic talent or anything like that. I truly believe that how hard you work, uh, you know, to a point matters a lot more.

[00:23:47] I mean, I went to high school with, um, a girl I thought was, I still think to this day is probably smarter than me, but she didn’t work as hard as I did anything as far as I could tell, like she would just literally not want to do assignments cause she didn’t feel like it. And, um, I did the assignments and I got better grades and she was constantly like mad that I did better than her, but I just worked a lot harder.

[00:24:16] I just kept thinking. I still think you’re smarter than me. We were very competitive. I just worked harder. And, um, I, yeah, so I just think that hard work goes a lot farther than, than skill I think. And that the effort that you put into things can go a lot farther because like, uh, like in college I knew like we had some, some really talented songwriters and stuff and, and, um, in our programs and the ones that.

[00:24:45] You know, it seemed like a lot of the more talented ones who just had like this seemingly innate skill, didn’t have a lot of drive and they don’t want to put a lot of effort. And so of course they never went anywhere. Um, the other side of the coin, man, there were some people who just had like, not a lot of skill and tried really hard and they seem to get a lot of.

[00:25:14] And, uh, but still didn’t quite get there because they didn’t have a lot of talents. So then when you took in the middle that people who had like a solid amount of skill and talent and like personality, chutzpah, mix that all together, those are the people who did really well. So that if that’s what he’s saying, and I think it is cause like there’s like minutes left on that video, like a minute, minute and a half.

[00:25:42] Um, Yeah, I agree with that.

[00:25:45] Tik Tok Person: What’s a controversial guitar opinion. Good pedals. You just don’t know how to use them. Okay. You might find. Absolutely right. Ever since I put that fucking metal zone in the sand

[00:25:56] Emily: in between part of my . Oh my

[00:25:59] Tik Tok Person: God.

[00:26:01] Emily: All right. All right. I guess that’s the end of the stitches. Uh, so yeah.

[00:26:08] All right. Well, well that was fun. Um, let me know what you thought. Let me know if you liked the reacting to two guitar tick talks. I can, I, can we do, I can do more of those. Like I like watching tick-tock. Especially when they’re guitar related. Um, that was pretty fun. Uh, so, uh, yeah. Thanks for watching, please.

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