This week it’s just Emily and Andrew on Get Offset. They talk about roller coasters, new gear, and the new Diezel VHX amp head that knows when you’ve profiled it for your Kemper.
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Episode Transcript
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[00:00:00] Andrew: welcome to the, get off set podcast. My name is Andrew
Emily: and I’m Emily.
Andrew: And today there’s nobody else. So you’re stuck with the two of us strap in it’s going to be a. All right. I can’t say it’s going to be a wild ride. It’s just going to be a ride.
Emily: Hm. For all of you, Cincinnati ENS. Is it going to be beast, son of beast or Beastie?
Andrew: And now things have already gotten cryptic and you’ve lost half the audience. That’s a lie. That would be, that would be saying half of our audience is Ohioans.
Emily: Yeah. That would be so like saying that it’s more closer to like Washingtonians. I just don’t know. So at King’s Island, the theme park, where I went to a lot as a kid and where I
Andrew: Ohio has islands.
Emily: Yeah. We have theme parks. Um, and that is,
Andrew: that sounds so it’s called King’s Island, but it’s not an Island in the middle of.
Emily: It’s like, um, it’s like, uh, it’s. I don’t know. It feels like an Island because it’s, it kind of has that vibe. I right across the street from, it was a water park called the beach. Um, but that’s getting like, so, uh,
Andrew: Ponzi scheme is this is so misleading.
Emily: There were three roller coasters at King’s Island. Uh, the beast is the most famous roller coaster, um, for a long time, I think it was the longest tallest, fastest wooden roller coaster. And, uh, R L Stein who wrote goosebumps, wrote a couple of books about the beast, the ride, the beast. Um, and then the, there was the Beastie, which was like the little kids.
Rollercoaster and the Hanover
Andrew: change of the name for variety sake.
Emily: So Beastie, and then this is where it got confusing. They did son of BS because you would think that the Beastie would be the kid and at the abuse would be the adult, right? No, son of was the first wooden looping wooden roller coaster.
And I will tell you, I have never been in more pain on a roller coaster than writing.
Andrew: So let me get this, let me get this straight. So first of all, they lie to you that it’s on an Island and it’s clearly not, not on an Island, which means they’ve got some making up to do just from the moment you walk in and then you walk in and their naming convention for the rollercoasters is just a busily.
Unforgivable and then the rollercoasters themselves suck.
Emily: Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. You did not just say that about the beast. The beast is awesome. It’s so cool. But all, but, okay. So some of these, since it had the loop, the loop was actually made a steal because physics and, um, but everything else, just like, I think the speed you had to get with the momentum to do the loop, it made.
It just was a very shaky, readily ride, which is really common for wooden roller coasters. But just because it had that extra level of like, ER, um, and then some of these actually a couple of the wooden beams broke. While it was being written. Nobody got severely hurt. Um, but I think some people did get like some bruising and contusions and things like that.
Andrew: I get the picture. I’ll I’ll go ahead and apologize for calling it a bad rollercoaster. Clearly I was in the wrong year.
Emily: It was a son of beast was not a good idea. Beast is awesome. I will stand by it. I mean, I, some of my favorite moments from, uh, like my teenage years were, uh, working at the theme park and then staying a little bit late and, uh, getting to ride some of the rides after hours.
And you would just like, they would let you ride them like three times. It was so great.
Andrew: Yeah. I don’t know. I maybe I’m just a snob because I grew up in Southern California and I got to go to six flags in Valencia.
Emily: Okay. Here’s the thing. Six flags is a parking lot with rollercoasters Kings Island was a theme park, more in the vein of Disney that had different areas that were themed, like the old wild Western area, the actions zone, like the carnival area.
So it was like more of like, A magical kind of experience versus like, like it wasn’t a, like, it wasn’t built for roller coaster enthusiasts.
Andrew: Yeah. And you see, that’s where I get lost with the in parks. Like Disneyland is so boring. I don’t like it I’ve been twice.
Emily: Have you been with your kid though?
Andrew: Yes. I ended up coming up with an excuse.
Like I think he’s tired. I’ll go take him to like, Oh, you know what? Maybe I should just take them back from her early bedtime. I’m just going to leave now. Bye guys.
Emily: Oh, I disagree. I liked Disney. I mean, I did Disney world, not land and I even like Epcot a lot.
Andrew: Yeah. Uh, I’ve only, so I did Disney world and then I did [00:05:00] California adventure the second time.
And the first time I complained was like, where’s the rollercoasters? Like, this is this doesn’t count. This is barely a ride. This isn’t a roller coaster.
Emily: I would say they’re probably more roller coaster rides that are like actual roller coasters that enthusiasts would enjoy at King’s Island versus a Disney world.
Now that I think about it.
Andrew: But then we went to California venture the next time, a couple of years later. And. They’re like, Oh, well there’s the big roller coaster. I think it was called California adventure. I honestly don’t remember. And I remember waiting in line for like an hour and 15 minutes for this thing.
And
Emily: sounds right. This sounds like a waiting for a rollercoaster. Yeah,
Andrew: well, it was just not a good roller coaster cause I grown up going to six flags like every year too. I’ve been a whole bunch of times I’ve been on most of the rides at this point. Um, and. Oh, this is great. It’s like they, the first, my first time going was, um, they had a homeschool day and yeah, yes, I was homeschooled at one point in time.
And so you had to sign up and prove that you’re homeschooled in the state of California or whatever state you lived in. And then they had a limited number of entry. So I remember going. In, first of all, it was strange that I was the only, I didn’t get the overalls memo, which is fine, but everybody else in the park was wearing overalls kind of.
Yeah. But there’s like, is dorky, is everyone there was there wasn’t that many people there wasn’t lion. So my first experience at a theme park was like, we’re going to do this again. Like we would like several of the rides. We would just like, get done with it. Look at the conductor and there’d be no line.
He was like, you want to go again? I’m like, yeah, I want to go again. Let’s go upside down five times of guilt. See, that’s a good time.
Emily: No, I agree. I agree. I can agree on things. Um,
Andrew: all right, well, now that I’m done being a prick and lambast in your childhood, this is
Emily: not a role. It’s not a rollercoaster pond.
Just thank you for asking what’s new with me. I think one of the things I’m most excited about this new with me is the fire fuzz by Doug man devices. Uh, if you’re listening and don’t know what dog van devices is, please check out our episode with land Skiles from. Dog man. And it is. Did you watch the demo on the, the firefighters?
I did it on guitar and bass.
Andrew: I am going to
Emily: it’s gnarly and it’s handsome. It
Andrew: wasn’t high, hot.
Emily: It’s really cool. He he this. So I know that for this batch of firefighters, he was, um, like hand doing the, uh, the enclosures, like writing thought VTF or volume tone, phys the name, a little design. Uh, so I think he’s, he’s going to do these for a while, but I think he’s also looking into less labor intensive and thus less expensive.
Options for upcoming fireflies runs. Last I checked, he only had three lefts in stock. I don’t know if they’ll have any less in stock by the time to set the sewed drafts, but I like, I really liked it on guitar, but man, I think this is going to be the inaugural pedal for my baseboard.
Andrew: Nice, nice.
Emily: Yeah. Yes.
I’m going to shape a whole tone range around around it and I’m very excited.
Andrew: Well, very cool. I would also be excited if I had what it took probably by one disappear.
Emily: Yeah. Yeah. I also want to try out his, um, he, I know he’s working on an overdrive or has some overdrives and, uh, he’s got that feedback loop or the oral Boris.
Andrew: I feel like we
Emily: might have talked about that last week.
Andrew: Chances are likely. That sounds, that sounds vaguely familiar.
Emily: Yeah. Also exciting. I have the, uh, the automaton, uh, preamp Mark too from chase bliss, audio. Uh, and let me tell you, this flying faders are lit as cool as you would think that they would be.
Andrew: I mean, we’ve already established that I was impossibly wrong when it wasn’t him and said it was going to be the year of orange. And instead it’s the year of the fader. Yeah,
Emily: I have a couple of titles, uh, cause I have the fault V2, which has the faders and the automaton has the theaters in possibly one.
That’s hiding behind my, um, Lighting rag.
Andrew: So not only are you getting faded with the automaton, but you’re also getting flying faded, which I’m, I’m sure that’s like illegal in some States.
Emily: I don’t know about you, but did you ever like watch like a movie or TV show that just maybe had like some cut scene to like a studio for some reason?
And it had the flying show, the flying faders?
Andrew: No.
Emily: I remember the first time I [00:10:00] saw like a video of flying faders and it might’ve been a documentary or something, but I think that really transformed me. Like it was, I don’t know why, I didn’t know what a recording console was, but I, I saw it and I was like, that might be the coolest thing I’ve ever seen in my life.
And now I have a product that has flying faders and I think that like eight year old me would be so stoked for 31 year old me.
Andrew: Yeah. I think first time I saw flying faders is I had just moved to Germany and we were visiting a church and I was like, I’d run the sound at my last church back in California.
Um, it, which is just like a Mackey analog console set up. Uh, and so we, and we went to go visit this church. I wanted to go check out the soundboard and like, Oh, I want to see what they’re doing. And I saw the flying faders and like, Wait a minute. We’re at a church. There’s no witchcraft allowed here. It was really
Emily: seamless.
It does seem like witchcraft.
Andrew: I mean, it probably is. You really don’t, unless you’re an electrical engineer and can prove it. You just have to go on faith that it’s
Emily: not. I know that like traditionally, like flying faders are a little bit prone to malfunctioning or breaking, but
Andrew: I’m sure that’s also dependent on the quality of your flying faders.
Like, are they Boeing then? They’re definitely going to malfunction follow the sky, but,
Emily: uh,
Andrew: it was going to fly.
Emily: Oh, no people died. Andrew people died,
Andrew: people died. And then they found out after the fact that Boeing was lying about all kinds of stuff and their internal reviews and basically saying, Oh yeah, that looks good.
After not actually inspecting anything. And then the CEO had to quit. Like, like industries was more or less fired after saying, I don’t want to quit. I’m going to bring this company back in the board of directors is like, Yeah, I don’t think so. Doug. And then they had to stop their production and it literally brought down the U S GDP one entire percent.
That’s an entire percent for just one product anyways.
Emily: Wow. This is what happens when I
Andrew: looked at here.
Emily: I didn’t realize all of that. Thank you for explaining
Andrew: that. That that’s what our audience,
Emily: yeah. So back to flying faders,
Andrew: right? Fully faders. Um,
Emily: so yeah, the automaton Mark two is based on the original pre Vinson preamp circuit.
So I got to do a video of, uh, I had took my Vincent preamp, took the Thomas home, took your AB why switch? You learn me. Um, and, uh, compare them. And I, yeah, I think that if you love your Benson preamp and don’t want to get rid of it, but also love the automaton that you should know that you’re going to get, you have those tones available and it’s.
The salt is still there. It’s sounds great. I think. And then you have so much more though. I did get mad at, I shouldn’t say I got mad. Someone left a comment on my comparison video, where they said that, um, since the mids were, I had just had them pushed to the bottom, uh, of, of the, the faders pushed down.
Um, because on the automaton, uh, The mids are optional and yet to hit those arcade buttons to place them as either before or after. They’re good. And let me tell you, like, especially with the FAS, if you put the meds after and get that frequency range just right. It sounds insane. Cool. And I really like it.
Um, but, uh, the guy said that since I had the mids and the quote cut position, instead of in the middle that, uh, it was a flawed, it was a flawed demo and I’m like, So this is a person who read the first page of the manual, but not the second page.
Andrew: Don’t get me started on reading manuals.
Emily: I kind of slightly responded.
No, actually I didn’t have the meds on at all. I think I mentioned that in the video and then I quoted the manual and then he deleted the comment.
Andrew: I was going to say, I’m looking at the video, the comments no longer. He deleted the comment and shame.
Emily: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it’s, here’s the thing like, and I just want to say this, like.
Everybody’s wrong. Sometimes I’m wrong a lot. I’m a speak in the demos a lot so possible that sometimes I do things that are, you know, not correct. And people correct me in the demos. Like, it’s fine. It’s cool. You have to accept when you’re wrong. And then if you’re wrong, I think that the put your is put, should do and say.
Oh, my bad. And then move on. It’s not, it’s nothing bad being
Andrew: bad. There’s nothing wrong with like saying I’m like actually, like I actually don’t really think that’s an issue for, for YouTube demos and stuff. Like by all means that’s what the common section are there for. But if you get called out and you can end up entirely wrong, don’t delete the comment.
Come on. That’s comedy gold for the rest of, as they were [00:15:00] depriving us of. I think that’s where the crime is here.
Emily: Yeah. Or just like read the whole manual before you try to correct somebody. I mean, that’s just, that’s just the gear world and it’s so funny. And also that’s that that’s also a little bit being a woman.
I’m pretty used to it.
Andrew: You mean you’re going to tell Amanda, read the directions.
Emily: Yes.
Andrew: My mind high expectations.
Emily: Unless that man was my lab partner in science class in high school, in which case I tried so hard to get him to read the directions and he just never did. So
Andrew: partner just dropped acid on a lab days.
So that was always exciting.
Emily: Wow. Wow.
Andrew: It was great. Actually, it was actually great fun because the data we did the whole, like let’s burn all these chemicals and record what colors they make. And then that was where you learned how to build fireworks. Kind of a thing. My lab partner was just on a different planet and just seeing like animals and butterflies and stuff come out of the flames and we’re like, dude, keep it down.
But this is also really funny. So keeps te tell us what you’re seeing, but just I’ll say it loud enough for the teacher realize you are tripping balls.
Emily: On love day. Oh, it
Andrew: was great.
Emily: Oh my God. Insane. Wow. Good for her. Good for her hand, her good for her. Oh, that’s even better. Damn it. That would have been such a good opportunity for that.
Lucille Bluth meme. Good for her.
Andrew: It was, it was a day. Um, This was an AP chemistry too.
Emily: Whoa. Well, you know what I mean? She knew something. The rest of us didn’t
Andrew: probably, I don’t know. She’s brilliant. I actually don’t know what ended up happening to her. I, well,
Emily: She’s probably doing very well. I’m sure. I hope she’s happy.
Andrew: Probably very well adjusted.
Emily: Yes. Uh, so that’s, that’s basically, what’s new with me other than like, I’ve been trying to work my way through all the pedals you learned me. And I had my little wrap party yesterday, which was the other day, which was fun after red attack
Andrew: buying all my range and
Emily: Yeah, but, um, I know you watched that one, cause you talked
Andrew: about it. I watched trunks of it. Yeah.
Emily: Yeah. I mean, it was, it was long.
Andrew: Uh, all I know is that I’m suddenly
Emily: a couple of things.
Andrew: Well, I want my rent back and I’m also regretting having, like, it sounds so good on base, but it also sounds so good on guitar.
And I don’t know, I just want a second one so I can have one on each board.
Emily: You mean like maybe a DRV.
Andrew: I mean, I, so here’s the thing
Emily: I wasn’t crowdsource and orange DRB. I want the listeners of the show to band together to get you an orange DRV for your birthday. That’s my goal.
Andrew: So like, I love how like absolutely disgusting, but the original rat is, or the rat too, that I have.
And it’s got like this. Irreverent lack of clarity that just somehow sounds sludgy, but like in a good way, not like in a, wow. Is this a can of BS? Like, no, it’s like a really solid, a really solid sound, but the there’s something about the way that the DRB takes it into the level of, like, it adds some clarity.
It’s not quite as sludgy, but it’s still got that great to it. That just sounds so good on guitar.
Emily: Yeah. I really think that the DRV is in every way.
Andrew: Like, it’s not, it doesn’t straight too. It’s like still a, definitely a rat when I sit down and listen to it and it responds like a rat. And, but it, it improves those little couple of things that just take it from like, this is just awesome.
I’m going to crank this up to 10 to like, Oh, this is a musical. I’m not just like throwing my sound. But like, I can move something inspiring with, Oh, that’s all I can do something inspiring at the right time. It’s just, it’s a different, different playing field with just a couple of tweaks and I’m beyond impressed with how good it is even that years after having played it.
Emily: Yeah. That’s a great pedal. Um, yeah, so it kind of brings us into what’s new with you.
Andrew: What’s new with me is, uh, I have fallen. I have fallen for one of the classes wonders. The first of which is to never get involved in a land war in Asia. The second of which is I never expected that you’re going to keep your board in one piece after you custom solder all of your lengths.
Emily: Yeah. Yeah. Every time I see somebody do that, like, or say that their board has done, I’m like, Hm.
Andrew: So like, I’m happy with this pill and that’s the frustrating thing. So I haven’t actually changed anything. I’m just getting that itch to be like, I don’t know, maybe it’s time to change something, you know, kind of spice things [00:20:00] up a little bit here,
Emily: especially with the quarantining and like your home a lot more.
So you’re looking at it a lot more.
Andrew: But, um, so like one of the one thing I’m probably going to change at some point is I’ve got the, uh, the expression pedal on there, which is great. And I’ve got that controlling my avalanche run. It gives me a couple of fun options, which I think is great
Emily: even though with the avalanche run.
Totally. Yeah.
Andrew: Uh, but I’ve got this. I would say big expression metal. It’s still the DOD mini. So it’s still pretty small, but it’s a very, my board build is very compact. So I could swap that out for, um, my boss PNC and have that, um, tremble upon at the end of my single chain. That can be super fun, but then I don’t have the expression controlling, uh, something I, I like a release announcement, so that released yet, but an announcement for a new EHX pedal.
Kind of caught my eye and it was like a, a it’s a CTRL or they, I think they spelled it CTRL even though control like on your keyboard is. Wait, they spelled it differently than how control on the keyboard is spelled. I think, um, I think they spelled it CNT L which feels weird.
Emily: Oh,
Andrew: okay. Anyways, basically it’s like a, just look.
Emily: Oh, CNTL, that is
Andrew: kind of strange. Um, But no, it’s a cool little utility pedal. It could sensibly replace the expression pedal and gives you a preset. Like where’s your heel down, where’s your heel up kind of a thing, which I think is cool. I wish it was passive, but I also like I’m looking at it going, this can’t be hard to build.
So I might, part of me like wants to just order a couple parts and see if I can’t make something work. Um, see if I can’t figure out how to make them for myself. It’s also, it’s only going to be 40 bucks too, which is almost like. It would be cheaper to buy it myself. And if I didn’t like the way it looked, I could just rattle.
Can it?
Emily: Yeah, it really is like for 40 bucks. I mean, I don’t know if you can really buy the enclosure wholesale for, I don’t think you can, but I don’t know if he could buy all those parts for 40 bucks and it certainly wouldn’t be worth your time for 40 bucks.
Andrew: Probably not. I don’t know. So that’s kind of where I’m at right now.
Actually they step out of the room for just a second. I’ll be right back.
Emily: Okay.
Those of you? I don’t, I don’t really remember how much Andrew just said about the pedal while he’s gone, but it’s, it’s a very small, it’s like a mini mini pedals size. It has two little settings. So essentially it’s like an AB switcher for expression controls in a puddle. And I think that could be really, really cool.
Like, um, I think it would essentially just be like adding another preset versus like. Having expression control that you’re sweeping. So, I mean, unless you’re sweeping for like changing the, the title I’m on the avalanche run, or if you, if you have it, like send it to the gain of the radio, I’m just striving already.
I’m just like going from a low gain, set into a high gain setting really quickly, uh, in between them. I think that could be really, really neat. Um, need to have. So it just really depends, I think, on how people use their expression pedals, but I think it’s smart. Um, um, I don’t really understand why it’s not passive, but I’m sure there are reasons.
If you’re listening to this and you know why it can’t be passive or why it shouldn’t be passive. Um, like other expression pedals are, uh, we have a Facebook group get, uh, if you just search to get offset podcast, um, on Facebook, we have a Facebook group check out the group, join. I do a visual thread for every single episode.
Um, Unless my life is just in shambles at that, that week. Um, and, uh, yeah. So join it, check out the thread and tell me why. Tell me why this is a good idea. The idea why it’s not passive. I’m really curious, uh, about it. Actually. I wonder if it looks like. So, obviously it’s not passive because there are LEDs these in it.
Um, let me look, the, the pedals expression, one naps Lex, the first expression setting to the second on those fully co fully counter-clockwise corresponds to the heel position while fully clockwise, the toe position, um, LEDs indicate which knob is active and can be. Powered by your pedalboard power supply or an optional E H X 9.6 D C 200.
MAAP S CU. So I wonder if it works, if everything with the LEDs work [00:25:00] passive, I don’t. And also, I think you would be absolutely bonkers and borderline legendary. If you were to. Use an entire wall wart, just to pedal, just to power this little, uh, control knob. That’s actually a really, really funny, Oh, it comes with a six foot TRS cable
Andrew: included in the $40.
Emily: Yeah. That’s kind of insane, but I think in Andrew, I could be completely wrong. I think it’s because the LEDs light up too, to show you which, which setting you’re on. Right. I think that’s why it, can’t why it’s not passive. So I wonder if everything else might work.
Andrew: I wonder I would definitely prefer it that way.
So the reason why I want it to be passive is like adding an, a TRS cable to the board right now would be very doable. I don’t have any extra power slots though, and I don’t want to have to add, um, And I know, like, so I
Emily: said, okay, like, is there like a thing that does like a one to two kind of like a mini Daisy chain thing?
Andrew: Um, probably, I don’t know. I don’t want to have to go and undo all the, the cabling I did for that, uh, were the expression pedal is currently sitting. I did actually run, um, an extra, uh, barrel power barrel over there. So there’s a, there’s an unclaimed power cable sitting right underneath that. That’s all your wired up in case I wanted to swap out the, um, swap out the expression for a pedal.
So I did build that in when I think ahead when I was wiring everything up, but I’ve got enough space for a mini pedal sitting right over above my tuner and compressor, but I don’t have, I don’t have wait a minute. I’m using the tier three, I’m using the two-three has a little, I could totally just loop instead of running power all the way back to the power supply could just loop out of the tuner.
Why didn’t they? Uh, there we go.
Emily: Beautiful.
Andrew: Especially if it’s just predicts, like an expression do dead.
Emily: Yeah.
Andrew: We’ll shoot. Dang.
Emily: Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think that’s the winner.
The only way, the only way I would want it to be like completely passive and not have LEDs is if it was a physical toggle that I would reach down and like go between the two,
Andrew: you know,
Emily: I would like to actually know.
Andrew: I think that means I might just have to, uh, spend the $40 when that thing comes out.
Emily: Yeah.
I think that’s probably worth it.
Andrew: I’ve got enough TRS length of, so I can custom, um, solder cable for it. And I think I’ve had a couple of pancake TRS connectors left laying around. So I think I can just make that happen.
Emily: Nice. All right. This is like maybe the most. We talked about pedals in a hot minute.
Andrew: I mean, I don’t know.
Maybe that’s possible. It’s even likely, but it’s what they get for going on tangents about roller coasters and airplanes
Emily: that now we ended up talking about Kia. Should we hit our sponsors?
Andrew: Sponsors, sponsors.
Emily: Well, it was the first sponsor is a spun loud effects based out of Seattle, Washington, West Seattle, to be specific and, uh, their flagship product, the blister in peel version two. The V2 of that, I had filmed finally filmed that demo.
I need to edit it probably the day and have it out, hopefully, um, before this episode, definitely before this episode drops. So check out the demo of it on the older YouTube. Go ahead.
Andrew: Oh, I was just saying I, um, wow. Words. I was trying to think of a good joke for that sponsor slot and I, you know what, I couldn’t think of a good spun for it, so,
Emily: Oh man, that was quite loud. Uh, uh, that was bad. Yeah, but, um, it’s orange, which I know appeals to Andrew. Um, I’m probably going to loan that to you because I know you’re gonna think it’s really pretty low. He
still
Andrew: has a chance to become your, of the orange. You know what, here’s my theory, 2020 sucks because y’all, aren’t getting on board with my [00:30:00] whole, it needs to be the year of orange.
You guys have defied
Emily: the goddess, the year of precedent orange.
Andrew: Dear God, that is the one thing. See, I love orange so much, but please, if there’s not going to say it’s like the worst thing about 45, but I really don’t like what he’s done to my favorite color. Just go. No,
Emily: no, no. There are a lot of things I don’t like.
Oh my God.
Andrew: Yeah. I mean, I also pretty much dislike all of residents. I dunno. Anyways.
Emily: Aha. God. All right. Uh, yeah. So, uh, sorry about that. Uh, spun loud effects based on Seattle Washington, the blistering PLV too. It’s uh, A duel dirt pedal. And one side has goes from overdrive to Okta fuzz. And the other side is a more traditional FAS, uh, with a tone control and just like the, the, the sweep.
On the gain knobs is, Oh, I love it. I love it. When, when pedals, when builders, aren’t afraid to really just go all out with the pedal, like yeah. He could have stopped it. So it should, and overdrive when you do the sweep and just a snitch or fuzz when you get really into it. But instead he was like, I’m going to take this as far as I think anybody will ever want to take this.
And I appreciate that. I, you can always dial back, but you can’t, if it doesn’t have that capacity to be weird, it’s never going to get weird.
Andrew: Fair enough.
Emily: Oh, sorry. Can I try something really quickly? Okay. Come back, Carrie. Carolyn a cookie. Did you hear,
Andrew: I did hear that Carrie.
Emily: Want a cookie? Okay. I want a cookie.
Well,
Andrew: right.
Emily: You want a cookie?
Well, she got a cookie and dear listeners.
Andrew: So, you know, it was cool. It was cool as all the technical stuff is. Uh, and I’m sure there’s a couple of listeners that might appreciate that, but by and large, the majority of them should be buying one just to appease our apocalyptic overlord guides that have said 2020 was supposed to be the year of orange.
So go buy one. Now, save yourselves.
Emily: uh, this week’s episode of the get off that podcast is also brought to you by parts cast their concierge, or how do you say that Andrew? How do you pronounce it?
Andrew: So, cause a concierge
Emily: concierge,
Andrew: concierge,
Emily: con,
Andrew: Sarge. Sorry. That was like some full forest Gump out of me right there.
Um, I don’t actually know if I’ve ever heard like a consensus on how to pronounce that.
Emily: Yeah, I don’t think I have either
Andrew: concierge, concierge urge.
Emily: I don’t know. It’s done concierge concierge.
Andrew: That’s just. I mean, it’s definitely got it. Got me thinking, like, I remember hearing that, that brand name and I’m like, Ooh, I don’t know how to pronounce that.
And you know, me and, you know, ambiguously pronounced brand names, but I’ve got to thank for that. So,
Emily: yeah. So he basically does kind of custom parts castor. Well, he has like a bunch of made to order bodies and they’re really affordable. I think like $125 for an unfinished tele deluxe style body. Um, And, uh, I think that I am from him going to get a, an R guitar body.
And then I am going to build it out. I’m really excited about
Andrew: it. That does sound. I want to build a guitar. You know what? I want to build this. I want to build a stress sometime. Maybe I’ll have to go to this, uh, guitar kind of stir concierge filler and get some stretch stuff.
Emily: Yeah. Yeah, totally. Um, but it’s, it’s, it looks pretty cool.
Um, I think it’s a great idea and it seems really affordable. He basically charges, uh, for custom stuff. It looks like he charges 50 bucks, uh, to do the layout. And then, uh, he’ll also include like a parts list, uh, easy to follow wiring diagrams. Um, and he’s based out of, uh, Muncie, Indiana. So he’s a little, it was a Midwesterner.
Oh,
Andrew: that reminds me of, um, Jerry from parks and rec. He like, Oh, we’re going to go out of town. Oh, where are you going? Oh, we’re going to go spend the weekend in Muncie.
Emily: Oh, [00:35:00] and now it really is. It looks cute. Just looking at a YouTube, I mean, a picture on Google, but Midwestern cities, I think, or could just kind of keep like hanging around someplace. That’s not like your house, like Rick and I are taking a whole week off at the end of this month from like all of our job jobs stuff.
Um, just to kind of like unwind, like spend some time hanging out with each other without like, worrying about work too.
Andrew: You guys are probably going to fly out to Muncie.
Emily: Exactly. We’re going to go to Muncie cause I need to pick up this guitar Bali in person. No. Um, we might like do an Airbnb for a couple of days up North or something.
Um, and then make a break for Canada. Just kidding. Uh, No, but just like, like we bought this house three years ago almost, and they’re still, you, we’ve just been so busy and overwhelmed sense that we haven’t taken the time to like get together. And just both of us working to like organize some stuff, go through things, things get a big donation pile going.
Um, yeah, so it’s just like these pro, like we’ve done a lot of projects to be fair. Like patio looking just beautiful. We have art on the walls. Um, but some of the unpacking mostly just never really happened. And at this point, like if there’s things that I haven’t looked for in the past three years, I probably just helped me with them.
Yeah. That’s that’s true. I think what Rick really wants to do is he heard about somebody who put this guy, put everything, he owned into boxes and as he needed things, he would take them out of the boxes. And at the end of the year, if he hadn’t used, is there things that he hadn’t used? He just got rid of them.
Andrew: That is, um, Marie condo condo. . It’s
Emily: it’s like almost a more aggressive Marie condo. Cause he wasn’t even like, well, this brings me joy.
Andrew: Well, it’s like a more passive aggressive, cause it’s like a very passive way of doing it, but then ends very aggressively. It’s like college roommates.
Emily: Yeah.
Andrew: And at the end of the year you decide you don’t want to live with your roommates again.
You’re like, yeah. I found other people to live with.
Emily: Sorry.
Andrew: Oh, you needed the extra person. So you could afford to go to here. Yeah. You’re poor. That’s not my problem.
Emily: Yeah. Some people just aren’t fun to live with, but, uh, yeah. So, um, those are, those are our sponsors. Check them out and it links in the show notes. Um, really exciting. Tell me, tell me what color I should make the, our body. Which is I think, I think it’s just such a weird wild shape. I
Andrew: think it is a wild color, something bold, something appropriate for the year 2020.
Emily: No, not going to do that. I’m not going to do it. I’m not going to make an orange.
Andrew: Absolutely. Really. You should do competition orange with a red racing, a couple of red racing stripes. That would be the like, honestly, that would be a really cool, like vintage mashup between the, our body and fender aesthetic.
I think that would actually be super sick.
Emily: Well that’s, if you, if it was your guitar, you could do that.
Andrew: I’m saying if 2020 continues to get worse, it’s all your fault. Now,
Emily: listen, I actually was kind of one thinking about maybe, I don’t know if there are places that like the places you would go to. Like, I don’t know. I don’t know. I would love to do like metallic on this, but I don’t know where, I don’t know how I would do that or where I would send the.
Andrew: Uh, I mean, I know Doug cower does a lot of phenomenal metallic finishes. It might be worth reaching out and be like, Hey, how would I do do that?
Emily: Probably with tools that he has, that I don’t have access to,
Andrew: uh, I’ve read a couple of ways to do DIY stuff. I have to find the articles, but I think it’s like a base layer coat.
And then you mix in like your metallic, like flakes with like a clear coat. Um, so.
Emily: I was also thinking maybe like those really thin kind of paint finishes where you can still see the grant underneath a little bit.
Andrew: Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Emily: I think usually that’s kind of like, uh, usually it’s kind of like a white color in it.
Andrew: Uh, yeah. I mean like, um, blonde or white, uh, for like the old fender stuff. Yeah, that can be pretty popular.
Emily: Like reds. I’ve seen reds with that too.
Andrew: I can look that can also look really great in orange. Um,
Emily: a serous finish, perhaps depending on the, uh, well, I forget what exactly what kind of, what it is.
Andrew: Well, I have a [00:40:00] rested my case and I now have a scapegoat for everything that goes wrong for the rest of 2020. So I would say my work here is done.
Emily: Nice. Yeah. So you’re you, you, you, you, the blame will be on me. I don’t, it’s going to make me very sad. And I don’t like to, it’s got me feeling anxious now. So maybe we should just talk about the topic or maybe first we should promote our patron program.
Andrew: Uh, I mean, I suppose we could, it’s possible likely even
Emily: likely yes, we were on Patrion. Did you know,
Andrew: I heard something about that.
Emily: Did you know where on Patrion?
Andrew: Uh, I think you, you, you might’ve mentioned it once or twice before that sounds familiar.
Emily: Did, did I mention the patrion.com/get offset?
Andrew: You might not have gotten into that much detail, but you also could have.
I’m not really sure.
Emily: We have a Patrion, if you like the show and want to help support us, um, and take some anxieties away from us and maybe. In a way contribute to the growth of like the YouTube channel, especially because people do send me a lot of pedals, but like all the pedals I talked about today, other than the ones that Andrew loaned me, I did buy with my own money.
So I still see something. I like sometimes I reach out to the builder. Sometimes they send it to me sometimes I just buy it. Because I want to support the builder. So I’m in financial ways. So, uh, yeah, that’s, that’s one of the things that the Patrion helps us out with. It also helps out with the, the website cause, um, the, the podcast hosting costs and, uh, just kind of the, the time, the time costs of, uh, making this, this podcast and the YouTube channel happen.
Andrew: Sold you guys. Where, where do I give money?
Emily: patrion.com/get off sent link in the show notes.
Andrew: Here we go. Can you hear the keys? Yes. Was that, was that good? Like ASM or marketing? I hear that’s all the rage now. Yes.
Emily: I think that would count. I might have to be slower. Just the sound of a page turning or wrestling paper wrestling,
somebody rubbing their finger on the microphones. Another one, I think. Um, but, uh, we also, if you don’t, if you love the show channel, want to support it, uh, subs without having to spend money. Cause not everybody has disposable income right now. Um, Subscribe on YouTube, subscribe on iTunes, leave us a review on iTunes.
Those really, really help, uh, push us to a bigger audience.
Andrew: And also I leave comments on YouTube that tell Emily why she’s wrong, but make sure that you’re actually wrong. Give her a chance to call you out. And then we can just pure comedy golden in the comment section. Like just set it up just intentionally.
So you, it would look bad, but it’s actually great fun for everybody
Emily: else. Andrew, maybe you should start doing that on every video. Tell me why I’m factually wrong. About one thing that I’m actually a factually right about.
Andrew: That could be fun. Maybe it will. Maybe I should make it. Oh, I should make a fake YouTube accounts are doing that, but then I’m not going to, I’m not going to tell you it’s my account.
I’m going to see how long it’ll take for you to block my fake account.
Emily: I don’t block the accounts unless they like make comments about my tits, to be honest.
Andrew: Well, I don’t think I could bring myself to do that even on a fake
Emily: account. I preached, I would appreciate you not, not doing that, but
Andrew: I think it could be a fun challenge without overstepping into the creepy boundary to see if I can get you to block a fake account.
Now see what I just did is I’m not actually going to create a fake account, but that just pretty much gave everybody else licensed to harass you.
And then blame it on me. I know that that was definitely Andrew. That’s his fake account. Yeah. He’s actually got a 30 fake accounts. It’s is wild. How he keeps up with that.
Emily: Wow. It started as a joke and then it became real. Basically
Andrew: this is just turning into a wild rabbit hole of like manipulative, socio something politics.
I don’t know.
Emily: Well, let’s get into the rabbit hole. Let’s say into the, the potential rabbit hole that is, uh, this link that you sent me
Andrew: intellectual property, and everybody just clicked out. Oh,
Emily: I think, okay. So if you are like loopy intellectual property, it’s boring. Like it’s fine to think it’s boring, but this like, like I think this just people saying, I think you might think it’s interesting is I think it’s more interesting than people pretend it is.
Andrew: No, I think it’s super fascinating. And that’s why I’m talking [00:45:00] about it. Um, If you don’t think intellectual property should exist. I was really like that like heavy level libertarian. Then you just, you just hate small businesses. So moving forward, diesel is an amp company and their new amp head has some shop.
So it’s like a, it’s a tube amp head, but it’s got some digital interface kind of along the same veins of like analog heart, digital brain. And. So, this is really cool app. It’s got all kinds of stuff in it, but it has a special feature and it knows when it’s been profiled.
Emily: Ooh. That’s, that’d be like a book knowing if you took a, uh, like a photocopy of it.
Andrew: Right? Right. So, so here’s, so you might ask yourself, what is profiling? Profiling is specific to another unit, another amp head, a digital amp head called the Kemper profiler. And there’s a couple of different variations on it. But what it’s known for is it’s not a modeling amp. Modeling app is where you build it out with the software and so on and so forth.
And then you’ve got your amp, your digital amp profiling is where you literally connect it to a microphone in front of someone like a different amp. And you kind of just run through that amp settings and record it as well as you can. And now you’ve got a functional profile that’s interactive. That’s literally using all the data, pulls from the front of that other amp,
Emily: like a photo copy.
Andrew: Right. It’s much more kind of a photocopy then like, Oh, like if we’re going with the book analogy, like modeling, we’d be like, okay, I read this book and I’m going to rewrite as much of that book as I can, can try and get the words to match up versus like just flat out photocopying it. Now it’s not photocopying the amp itself.
It’s it is just photocopying the, uh, the mic. Signal.
Emily: So you can play with different mic placements to get different sounds. Yeah,
Andrew: super cool. And so theoretically we could do is you can put, um, you plugging this deep, the diesel VHX head into a cab, mic it up and then profile the, with a camper profiler. Now I want to see more about how the software works with the feature means it’s going to be like, yeah, I know it was profiled and it’s got like log it kind of a thing.
Emily: And now people are wondering what this means. Like,
Andrew: why would you care?
Emily: Well, there are a couple of reasons I can imagine people caring. I mean, like, I think the one that I saw the most was the idea that if you buy it just to profile it and then return it, that you can’t return it.
Andrew: Yep. I definitely have seen people do that with amps before where they just, you go to guitar center or whatever, your local stories you buy a freely, freely nice app, like three, four or five grand or whatever.
Uh, You take it home for the weekend, you profile it and then you return it and say, Oh, it wasn’t really for me, but now you’ve got all of that profile on your camp, on your temper for free. You just have the loan out three grand for the weekend. And you’ve got it back in your bank account by Monday or Tuesday.
Emily: Yeah. That’s any, probably get to keep the credit card points.
Andrew: Right. So,
Emily: yeah, I mean, and I can see that being a problem because I, I I’m sure there are examples of other things that you can, I, you know, I don’t know if there are, cause like if you bought a CD at a store knew, and then you took it home and you ripped it, your tier computer back when that was the thing that people did.
You couldn’t return the CD because you already opened it and you buy a book and then try to photocopy every page of that book. One that’s extremely time consuming. And why would you do that until you’re going to like break the binding on the back of the book a little bit and you can’t probably return it then I can’t think of a lot of products where you really can take it.
Make a copy and then return it, like essentially like treat it like a library.
Andrew: So this is important to note before we get too much farther up, diesel did make it clear in press release that it’s not intended. Like they directly said it’s not intended as an opposition or a deterrent, um, to, to Kemper. So they’re not, it’s not going to stop you from profiling.
It all it’s going to do is log. Oh, I was profiled this time and date kind of a thing. It’s not going to stop the user in the process of trying to profile. So they don’t have a problem with getting profiled necessarily. Cause that’s the thing like that’s so helpful for so many reasons. I like Kemper. Like one of the application for Kemper is if you’ve got like, sorry.
If you, if you were an efficient auto and you’ve got all these really nice apps and you liked the idea of, uh, and you want it, Oh, those sounds on the road, but you don’t want to have to pay for all the road cases and all the gas and the travel fees for your special collection, as you could just, you know, digitally take it with you.
And these profiles on the road and temporary is good enough where [00:50:00] sensibly that’s what all you would need for an entire tour. You have these digital files, you’re good to go. It’s weighs like 20 pounds per head or something like that.
Emily: I mean, when they Melvoin from the revolution, does that when, when the revolution tour is, and she says it saves them thousands of dollars.
Andrew: Oh yeah. So none of this is bagging on Kemper just were completely clear. I think Kemper rocks, I think ever has a really great product. I’ve played through several campers. I’ve enjoyed it every single time. And at some point I’m probably going to cave in, ended up getting one myself, but. So that’s not what this is directly about.
I think this is more geared towards the, uh, um, profile and return kind of schemes that a lot of people try to pull on, whether it be guitar center or Sam Ash, or your, your mom and pop shop. I mean, it does happen more frequently than any of us might realize.
Emily: Yeah. And I I’m, I’m surprised at how much it happens, but I would guess kind of it happening at all.
Like isn’t, isn’t great. But, um, I understand that right now, they’re saying that they don’t want to prevent people from, it’s not going to be like a modeling blocker, but, um, I can imagine that someone eventually, some other builders taking a similar technology and potentially doing that, but it looks like this says it could also be employed as a means to log which settings and channels have been profiled, making it easier for users to capture sure.
A full spectrum of, of tone. So could actually help the person who’s doing the profiling. It seems like.
Andrew: That feels like a reach. If I’m being honest. I mean, I get that. So like the, the diesel VHX has a whole bunch of different amps in it. And then within that, you know, a whole bunch of settings. So theoretically sure.
If you got like the however many different settings, you want to work your way through them, you could log it that way. That just feels really good. Inefficient. You’d be like, okay, I just finished one up now I’m going to menu. I have to figure out which one I just modeled. So I know what to do next. Why not just write, I feel like that if you’re trying to work your way through the whole app and model, the whole thing front to back is you would just, I mean, just write it down on a piece of paper.
Might maybe that’s our kick of meat is to say in a digital age, but that just sounds so much more efficient for this particular application. So I feel like that’s kind of a richer justification. Maybe I’m just being arrogant here, but it does feel very pointed towards the sort of a profile and return scenario.
Emily: Yeah, it does. I wonder, I wonder if, how diesel, like how they’re going to use the information that they get, because he, because like obvious, I would imagine that there could be some potentially some good R D for them to be like, okay, so here are the settings that people seem to be profiling the most
Andrew: may.
Yeah. But that’s assuming that they’ve got a way to collect that data backwards. Cause not a lot of people are necessarily going to go plug in. Um, like when they’re, they’re profiling it, they’re not going to necessarily plug that amp back into the, into internet facing network and then for diesel to pull that and that data remotely, I mean, it’s possible they’re living in that kind of a digital, like next level, um, data mining.
Okay. So I’m not going to rule that out.
Emily: That’s interesting, but yeah, who knows? So it just seems mostly like it’s, cause that does feel, it feels a little like that, to be honest, to just like borrow it with like a deposit, basically putting out a deposit to take it home, take all the tones and then return it like that.
I mean, I don’t think that’s a nice thing to do.
Andrew: No, I don’t think that’s that’s super great. Um, I’m sure there’s some people that would disagree with that and say, well, I mean, that’s, you’re not technically doing anything wrong and I’m like, sure, technically you’re working with the return policy and unless the return policy is something specific about profiling.
Sure. There’s not technically anything wrong with that per is a perfectly legal and a great tool for musicians. So there’s also nothing technically wrong with that. I think this falls into the technically right. Morally not that’s going to be a no for me.
Emily: But how could they, so now, now I kind of wonder since it doesn’t seem like Kemper isn’t its existence is, is stealing anyone’s intellectual property.
I feel like this product would not exist if, if that were the case. So can stores then say that if you profile it, you can’t return it. Like, would that be, I feel like that could potentially open them up to some sort of court case.
Andrew: Possibly, but I mean, if you include that as part of the, uh, terms and conditions of the sale, [00:55:00] then, I mean, you have to agree to what, when you buy it,
Emily: but people, uh, but those terms and conditions can be found to be illegal.
Andrew: Sorry, you just cut out what
Emily: a terms and conditions can be found to be illegal.
Andrew: Right? What, excuse me. I mean, sure. Maybe some blues lawyer’s going to spend 30 grand and 50 grand in court to push this big amp company or whatever retailer and said. Being bullied into allowing that return for whatever amp or for the $4,000 amp that they bought for the weekend.
Maybe that feels so incredibly that I don’t, maybe I’m naive. I just don’t see that happening.
Emily: Well, I mean, if some lawyer comes around and looks at these terms and conditions and is like, no, this ain’t right, then that person could. Do all the work themselves still gotta
Andrew: front all the money for court fees.
And I guess if there was a lawyer themselves and they want to take that on, they could, but they’re not going to do that in the free time. They’re probably going to do that through their place of business.
Emily: Yeah. Sorry. I’m I’m, I’m looking at my, Oh my cat’s playing with re with, uh, some light on the right.
That’s pretty cute.
Andrew: Really really cute. I would definitely say going and suing a, uh, a mom pop shop or even guitar center for wanting to protect their return policy and make sure that they’re not taking, being taken advantage of. I think that’s perfectly legitimate. And I, I, I would take issue with anyone who would want to take them to court or complain about that kind of thing.
Like come on, man.
Emily: Yeah. But I think we all understand how. Aggressively unreasonable and rude people can be. I mean, people will wear a mask in public because my, my rats, but like, why would we think that they would be like, Oh yeah, well, just because you can doesn’t mean you should. For profiling and then returning.
Andrew: So, so the question that I’m sure that would come up and at this point in the conversation is okay, cool. But I have a camper. I want to get these, these diesel sounds out of my camper and diesel has some really phenomenal sounds. They’re they’re well known for a reason. And they’re cherished by a whole range of, of players, um, especially on the heavier end of things.
So that becomes a question and I’d be willing to bet that those profiles are like someone else has already done profiles on the originals of these amps that you could totally just purchase instead of having to like borrow for the weekend. So people who own the amp, like studios and whatnot, who’ve put together profiles of this kind of stuff.
Just. By the profile. I mean, that, that allows money to get circulated in a proper way for the industry. That means the people who actually own the amps are able to, to monetize, monetize off the apps that they’ve got. You’re not screwing out your local mom and pop shop, and you’re not screwing up the ad
Emily: builder.
I actually didn’t realize that you could buy Kemper profiles because I’ve never looked into Kemper profiles.
Andrew: You can download them. Yeah. I mean, I just Googled temper profiles and here’s Keppra profiles on sale today. Metal murder volume, one pack and more.
Emily: Oh wow. Metal murder.
So you get jazz program,
Andrew: temper profiles for worship. I mean
Emily: 15 bucks.
Andrew: Yeah. 15 bucks. And you get like a range of amps. So why are we going through, why are you laughing? Going through the process of trying to screw a local mom and pop shop out of having to deal with your sale and then return and making the poor sales guy feel super down and out when he thought he had a $4,000 sale only to come back on Monday.
I mean, why. That just feels like the epitome of selfishness. When vias exists all over the internet for real, the low prices where you get to support people. And I know I’m always going to bring the hammer, like please support people in the industry that’s important and people are going to feel entitled to like, well, it’s my money.
I can do what I want with it. And this whole thing feels like a scam. And sure, I granted there’s some gray area in this. This is the stance I’m willing to willing to take. And I feel pretty strong about them.
Emily: Yeah, knowing that you can buy literally diesel profiles, like a pack of them for 15 bucks. I’m like, why even go through like the time and energy of buying it like that, just like going to the store, buying it and doing it yourself.
Doesn’t seem worth it when you can buy something for $15,
Andrew: but it feels like you’re doing something dirty. Therefore it’s more fun.
[01:00:00] It’s like shoplifting, but you’re not actually shoplifting.
Emily: But that’s a good point that you’re sealing a potentially enormous commission from somebody who really relies on that. It’s like
Andrew: you’re giving that commission on bad faith.
Emily: Yeah. I mean, it’s like going to a restaurant and ordering a bottle of wine and making that, that server’s day because of all of wine means bigger tip and then not tipping
Andrew: on it.
I mean, sure. I mean, there’s a lot of turf analogies. We could, we can throw on this, but that’s kind of. More or less the a it’s the end of my thought process. This feels relatively cut and dry. As far as gray areas go for me. I like what I do. Like what diesel’s done here, uh, from a tone mob did bring up a good point on one of the posts that he, I think it was over in the tone mob that he wonders if this software might get licensed out.
And I think that’s a really fascinating idea. If there’s a way to include this, even just as, as a software, like component added to it in the analog amp, even for some high end at builders, just, you know, I could see, I could see this being integrated in a range of technology if they license this out. And I think that’s a fascinating idea as well.
Emily: Oh, totally licensing. It’s always really. Really interesting. Um, and this doesn’t seem like the kind of technology that you would have to have like a competitive advantage over other brands. Really. So yeah, if, if it, I feel like it’s not like if the technology was something that like other users would want, then yeah.
Keep it for yourself, but it just doesn’t seem to be. Be that kind of technology. I can absolutely see them essentially doing their own little B2B business, selling this to other manufacturers. Totally. Sure.
Andrew: And to that, I would say I applaud you by all means. Go for it.
So, I mean that’s more or less all I have on topic. I don’t know if you have any questions, thoughts, comments, concerns, not
Emily: really. This isn’t really my forte. This is kind of like, definitely more of a, the world that you understand as someone who actually worked in a guitar store for a number of years, and it’s all this kind of thing happen, and it’s more aware of profiling.
Andrew: It’s so nice to talk about profiling and have it not be like in a human rights violation kind of context.
Emily: Oh my God. That’s so true. Black lives matter.
Andrew: Definitely a thousand percent
Emily: actually at this moment, I’m wearing my, my cat magic punks shirt that says cat lovers against white supremacy.
Andrew: I am wearing my Maddow verse.
Make noise, not worship.
Emily: Oh yeah. I gave you that. Didn’t I?
Andrew: You did. And I rather like
Emily: it. Oh, it’s great. Isn’t it? That’s why
Andrew: it is gray.
Emily: It’s green. Enormous. Right?
Andrew: Uh, enormous for some, it fits about snug for me.
Emily: Wait, I’m sorry. It was a, was it like a, I don’t remember your shirt size, but I just remember it not being my shirt size and also I sweat too much to wear gray shirts.
Andrew: I can’t comment about my own sweat patterns and I’m very self conscious.
Emily: No, don’t be, I just, I get anxiety sweats, I think. But, uh, I sweat a lot. I don’t wear deodorant every day anymore.
Andrew: I just, I, I now have this picture of like a dude with a ball cap and sunglasses sitting in his truck, like with like, you know, the selfie video record.
Kind of ranting and just imagine it opened up. So it’s profiling someone this week, something, this weekend, it was an app. It’d be like, wait a minute. That’s not where I saw this going.
Emily: Yes, the do’s or anything in their truck videos. Why, why is it always in like a truck in a car? Like also, why are you doing this while you’re driving?
Andrew: No, they’re usually parked. Are they?
Emily: Oh, so they’re just like bored in their car and mad about something and decided to. Decide. This is what the world needs to hear is my
Andrew: opinion. There’s so many different ways you could take with trying to explain that phenomenon. Uh, I mean, you could talk about how like, truck is a status symbol.
Uh, you could take it the, the borderline slash outright misogynistic route of they’re waiting for their wives to get done with target, uh, and have nothing better to do. I mean, I don’t know. I mean, I’ve heard a number of different ways to explain that phenomenon.
Emily: They probably are waiting for somebody to get out of the target
Andrew: or Walmart or whatever convenience retail situation that they’ve got, [01:05:00] who knows maybe they don’t actually have a job, but they needed to get out of the house because they were too scared to tell their partners that they got fired.
And so now they’re just pretending to go to work.
Emily: Oh, that’s so sad.
Andrew: I think that’s a perfectly emasculating response to those videos.
Emily: Gosh. Yeah, they’re bad. They’re bad. They can’t. I want to see the one that’s just like the hippie, like the guy with the big burly dude, dude, with the Fu Manchu mustache. And then he just says a lot of really profound things in this truck instead of just angry ranting.
Andrew: I think that would be wholesome. That would been, if I had a truck, I would consider doing that.
Emily: We have, I call her SUV, the truck. I don’t know why
Andrew: I want a truck at some point.
Emily: My dad used to have it just like a little Ford F one 50, but we lived in the country. So he’d actually use it for like, Picking up stuff and hauling it.
Andrew: I would love a Ford F-150 with a camper shelf. We’re just absolutely
Emily: love it. Yes. The camper shell. That’s what I want. Like, I just that’s what I want, but I’m never gonna have it probably because it doesn’t make sense. And I don’t want to own a second car
Andrew: speak for yourself. I like multiple cars.
Emily: I mean, you have a family though, like you have a kid.
And so I think it’s more important to have two cars so that nobody’s like with the kid without a car.
Andrew: Well, I mean there’s, and then we’ve also got, my mom was to this too. So multigenerational family living where pre COVID, we all had jobs that were out and about, Oh,
Emily: okay.
Andrew: Pre COVID six years ago in January.
Emily: Oh God, six years ago in January.
Andrew: Uh COVID-19 while I’m loving, seeing all the people complain about how they can’t breathe in their math,
Emily: and you should see a doctor about that, honey.
Andrew: I’m like, wait, so you’re going to tell me that you’re going to not exercise at all. Put on 20 to 30 pounds after sitting down and watching tire King.
Reruns for the last six months, and then you’re going to put on a mask and then blame the mask for why you’re breathing heavily. Yeah. Yeah. I see how it is.
Emily: Meanwhile, I went for a run and a mask last week. I didn’t like it don’t get me wrong. Like it wasn’t, that’s why I run on at home, on the treadmill, because like, I don’t want to have to wear a mask outside when I’m running.
So yeah. Grudge, treadmill run. I’m getting pretty, pretty good speeds though. So. On my, not as fast as you, obviously at your prime
Andrew: at my prime. Definitely not now,
Emily: not 20 years old anymore. I don’t weigh what I weighed when I was 20 and I’m not as fast as I was actually I’m faster and faster now.
that I have ever been. And that was fast. I would saw Rick, uh, finish a 5k in like 22 minutes.
Andrew: Nice.
Emily: He was he’s very fast. He, he loves it. It’s like he, I think he came in like third. I think it was very respectable. It was like one of those, like Cinco de Mayo 5k is where it’s just, most people take it as an excuse to like get a tee shirt and get a couple of free beers.
Andrew: Take out day,
Emily: they got there. That’s probably what it was service. Uh,
Andrew: can I get done with the homeys,
Emily: the tequila? I’ve heard that Takata is the best of beer to use for like beer battering things.
Andrew: That’s entirely possible. I don’t have an opinion on that.
Emily: There’s this Mexican restaurant near my house called tacos and beer and their beer battered fish tacos are just transformative.
Andrew: As beer battered fish tacos should be
Emily: awesome.
Andrew: Alright. Well I think, uh, I think we’ve done it. Yeah.
Emily: We want to say, I think it, yeah, I think we’ve cracked the code.
Andrew: We have, we have accomplished what we set out to accomplish. Our goals have been reached. I would say this is one of the, the most accomplished Saturday mornings I’ve had in awhile.
Emily: Yeah, same, same, same, same, same. Cool.
Andrew: I promise that I’ll be accomplished the rest of the day. I might just sit around and do nothing, but know
Emily: I’m down and I’m going to try to film demos with the rest of your pedals. I am very afraid of the data corrupter, to be honest, I think I might just say I’m just gonna do like a reaction video of that one.
It’s not going to be like, and here’s what the settings do. It’s going to be like, I’m going to sit down with us with alpha manual. And I mean, dispel has been out for long enough that like there are demos probably have somebody like going through and [01:10:00] showing you what it does. I just kind of,
Andrew: I love that pedal so much.
Emily: I just like. I just want to play around with it and not worry about doing something that’s even vaguely educational because wow. It’s just it’s. So
Andrew: the one thing I will tell you, and the only thing I’m going to tell you, so you have a full reaction is the, uh, the, the level nub unity is at like nine o’clock.
Really? Yeah. So just be aware
Emily: loud.
Andrew: Huh? It will get loud very fast. So before you break anything, just be
Emily: aware break my neighbor’s patience.
Andrew: All right. Well, uh, I think that’s all we’ve got. Thank you for listening and thank you for understanding. My name is Andrew.
Emily: And I’m Emily. Goodbye.