Episode 94: Who Deserves a Signature Guitar – Shawn Mendes Foundation Signature Fender Musicmaster

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Andrew: [00:00:00] Welcome kit. [laughter]

Emily: [00:00:02] Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

welcome

Andrew: [00:00:16] to the get offset podcast. My name is Andrew

Emily: [00:00:18] and my name is Emily

Andrew: [00:00:20] and, uh, yeah, this is a podcast. If you were already aware,

Emily: [00:00:25] vaguely about guitars. I think, I think we’re, we’re like I would call it maybe 70% guitars on a generous space, third shooter spaces. And then like the rest is like music industry general in general,

Andrew: [00:00:41] guaranteed.

Every episode has more curated content than the gear slum. That is neither good, nor bad. They’re just, that’s a statement of fact

Emily: [00:00:51] fun game. Um, the guests at peddle reviews that they’ve been doing for a long time. And I just love it every time, because it’s just like these guys go down. Those, those wormholes about like someone complaining about like the bad and one of the pedals.

And I still think about that sometimes and how that guy just left a bunch of reviews on Amazon for batteries.

Andrew: [00:01:18] Yeah, those guys are great. If you haven’t listened to them, this is the, uh, your friendly reminder that you need to go check out the gear slum. They’re great folks, but fair warning. Don’t watch it. If you’re not ready to laugh until a rib breaks,

I’m

Emily: [00:01:35] never ready for that.

Andrew: [00:01:37] Well, then you shouldn’t be listening. Listen at your own, uh, your own, uh, caution, your own danger.

Emily: [00:01:44] What’s the, I know that you’re going for a specific phrase,

service know exactly what that phrase was, but I think we both know that that was wrong. Somehow peril, peril. That’s the word I

Andrew: [00:02:02] took a break last couple of weeks for my pestering, you with intentionally wrong idioms. And I thought it was a. I thought it was a fair time to resume that.

Emily: [00:02:12] So now you’re pretending you did that on purpose.

Andrew: [00:02:15] Uh, duh.

Emily: [00:02:17] Okay. All right. You know what? I, I usually would believe you, but for some reason I don’t.

Andrew: [00:02:22] No nobody ever does. That’s

Emily: [00:02:24] fair. Um, so. To change topics really quickly. I was listening to the song by our Patrion supported Joe Bragg. She performs under the name, Joan of heart. She just released her first little single on to the world.

And it’s so lovely.

Andrew: [00:02:43] Ah,

Emily: [00:02:44] yeah, she just, I just got the link today and I know you’ve been kind of offline today, so I think. I mean, have you been able to listen to it because

Andrew: [00:02:52] I haven’t yet, but I will definitely be doing it before the weekend’s out because Joe is a lovely human and the clips that I’ve heard in the PA patriotic group have been awesome.

Emily: [00:03:05] It’s just so beautiful. And, uh, she said she was telling me that she was inspired by, uh, when Davon Whitaker was on our show. Cause that was, that was definitely like a. That was inspirational. I’m like, man, I would buy a ticket to that guy, his self help seminar. And I would never normally do that kind of thing.

Andrew: [00:03:25] I don’t normally trust self help people because typically people who are great at helping others, aren’t great at helping themselves. But I digress seriously.

Emily: [00:03:33] That makes a lot of sense from the people I’ve seen.

Andrew: [00:03:38] Awesome. And like, even just like being one of the people speaking on the episode, like I was just listening and listening and

Emily: [00:03:46] I feel like we, we really, we really tag team to asking questions and then just listening, like it was just like blocks where I would just get to less listen and blocks where you would just get to listen.

It felt like,

Andrew: [00:03:59] Oh yeah, like wind them up. Let them go is phenomenal.

Emily: [00:04:02] Yeah, so it was really nice. Check out his, uh, so check out Joe’s song, Joan of Hart. It’s on band camp and check out Devon. I think he just, he either just did or is soon releasing music. Well, and he has the demo channel.

Andrew: [00:04:18] Yeah, some rad stuff, some excellent cinematography and make sure to give that, give that a look.

So, uh, alright. Time for shenanigans. What are you drinking tonight?

Emily: [00:04:29] I actually don’t usually have a drink when we record at night, but I do have, uh, the very last, uh, sparkling water that we have in the house.

Andrew: [00:04:39] Oh, Oh no. That’s a time situation. If I’ve ever heard one.

Emily: [00:04:44] Rick asked me right before we recorded it.

And he’s like, do you want to split this? The cry? And then I looked at him. I was like, no, I want you to kill me.

So then he did a little, what he calls the Patsy tax and he, so he took some, he took some off the top. It’s fine. That’s fair.

Andrew: [00:05:03] Fair enough. Fair enough.

Emily: [00:05:06] What are you drinking?

Andrew: [00:05:08] I, uh, found a bottle of something I haven’t looked super hard for, but. I happened to be in total wine the other day. And wasn’t even going in for this at all I was going in for is a bottle of Sinai, which is an Italian artichoke liqour, which sounds stupid.

That sounds like it would be terrible, but it

Emily: [00:05:31] does

Andrew: [00:05:33] see someone that I know his name’s Atley great guy. Do you

Emily: [00:05:38] know him personally? I just know him from the internet.

Andrew: [00:05:40] I just know him from the internet at this point.

Emily: [00:05:42] Okay. Seems great. And his, okay. You’re probably already going to mention that he does like all the time.

That’s really cool cocktails,

Andrew: [00:05:49] phenomenal bartender. Uh, I’m not even gonna say amateur. He’s just a bartender. He’s phenomenal. Uh, some of the stuff I’ve seen him put up is just great. I don’t know where he’s getting his recipe lists, but the breadth of what he’s able to cover is awesome. It’s like,

Emily: [00:06:03] it’s very art it’s artismal but like approachable what’d they call those mixologists.

I’m pretty sure.

Andrew: [00:06:10] Sure. I mean, that sounds fancier than bartender. Bartenders sounds like the guy that you brought home to show your parents to like, Oh, okay. But next, I’m just saying there’s a stigma. I don’t, I

Emily: [00:06:27] actually have been stoked for me to bring home a bartender. I think like my dad was a bartender in college and early in his teaching career, like in the summers and stuff.

Andrew: [00:06:36] Well, to be clear, I’m just sharing what the general stigma could be. I am certainly not representing my own thoughts and feelings about bartenders and that specific sentiment, because let me tell you, they do society. Great service. So. Anyways. So he recommended getting a bottle of Sinai and I’ve been waffling on like, I don’t know.

That sounds super funky. So naturally I around the, uh, the will to go out and track it down in the midst of a pandemic and walked into total, I just knew right off the bat. There’s no way if they had it, I was going to be able to find it browsing. So I walked up, someone said, Hey, I’m looking for this. And he looked at me.

Uh, and did a double take. He’s like actually, yeah, we, I think we’ve got like one bottle left. Watch me down like back corner of the it’s there’s one bottle left. Uh, so it was like, got it. And I turned around and I see this bottle of whiskey because it happened to be half, half liquor, half whiskey for that aisle.

Now this is where things start to get a little judgmental. Sort of, well, not judgmental. I don’t know. I used once upon a time, um, in a land pretty much here I drink Evan Williams. Evan Williams is a cheap bottom shelf bourbon. I think it’s perfectly fine. It’s not super great for drinking. Neat, but for mixing it’s, it’s perfectly acceptable.

Uh it’s it just comes in a black label. It looks reminiscent of Jack Daniels. I, I prefer it over Jack, but

Emily: [00:08:04] that’s not. Oh, well you want to in college is. Whatever you just said,

Andrew: [00:08:09] it’s cheap and it’s, it’s reasonably tasty. There’s nothing, it’s not super complex, but it’s not offensive either. So it’s kind of what you want out of the bottom shelf.

Liquor. And I enjoy having Williams, but I’ve read somewhere. Someone told me about there’s like, there’s the black label. And then there’s the bottled in bond, white label. And that’s what I ran into. I haven’t seen it. So they like your average grocery store Woodstock, but bottled in bond is the one that I found.

And it was like looking at them like for 15 bucks, do I go wrong? So it’s a hundred proof bottled in bond, Evan Williams, Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey actually poured it before the show. And I haven’t got around to sipping it. So sure. I’ll sip it at some point during, during the show, genuine sour mash.

Emily: [00:08:57] Cool.

Andrew: [00:08:59] In other words, it’s just my attempt at trying to find a excellent bottle of whiskey at a low price point. So

Emily: [00:09:09] tales all this time. So that’s a journey. Many of many have taken that road.

Andrew: [00:09:16] All right. So how many, how long did I managed to drag that story out for? Cause I feel like I’m getting really good.

Emily: [00:09:21] It talks about three and a half minutes, three and a half minutes,

Andrew: [00:09:25] but it’s respectable.

Emily: [00:09:27] Yeah. Well, let’s not, that’s not trying to break any records tonight. Like please.

Andrew: [00:09:36] Fair enough. I’ll I’ll cheers to that

Emily: [00:09:39] thing. Pink olive, anything good to cheers with, but I’m listen. What else is new is yours? Should I talk for a while?

Since you just talked my clothes all off,

Andrew: [00:09:52] I think before we lose any more listeners, why don’t what’s new with you?

Emily: [00:09:58] Well a lot. I’ve been getting some really cool stuff and, uh, but I think, well, it’s kind of cooler for me personally, is that I just took the first week off I’ve had with my husband since like 2016.

And even though we couldn’t really go anywhere, we hung out the house we took, we like worked on some projects together. We’ve been wanting to work on, we watched movies every night. We cooked a lot more. And, uh, we took a night up where we went North to Bellingham, Washington for lunch. And then we spent the night at, uh, an Airbnb, like a two minute walk from the waterfront Birch Bay.

And that was just really nice. We watched the sunset, which is just very hokey romantic, but I learned that my husband can skip rocks on bodies of water, which is a skill I do not possess, but have always found like as enviable and. Daunting. And I feel as many times as I have tried when I tried juggling.

So it was like watching him skip these rocks, like four or five skips. I was like, it was really fun. And then the next day we drove up. Oh, we drove East of it and then North of it. And, uh, we sat on the American side of the border with Canada and my friends who live in Canada, sat on the Canadian side of the border because all along the border in Canada, uh, there’s just like this Avenue called zero app.

So, so, uh, they went to the spot. One of the spots there where all of that’s between our two countries is like a guard rail. And there’s like a border patrol officer who hangs out and like, we’ll just remind you to. Not pass anything over, not touch and stay six feet away from each other. Yeah. I just hung out with, with a Canadian friend.

I wasn’t sure I’d be able to see in person for, for a really long time.

Andrew: [00:11:51] And did they offer to let you make a run for it and join the, uh, the other side or

Emily: [00:11:56] you cannot joke about that?

Andrew: [00:11:59] Well, not at the border, but.

Emily: [00:12:02] Which is what I was.

Andrew: [00:12:03] You joke about it after you make the run for it and get away

Emily: [00:12:07] fully. I think it’s like, there’s such a lazy joke and I really wanted to make it, but also it wasn’t really a joke.

I really, they have like 300 active cases in all of BC and they were down to single digits.

But their government they’re there. I don’t know whatever their version of a governor. I think, I think my friend was telling me that he said there won’t be any live music til 2021, which is what someone from live nation said, but new Zealand’s over there. Like we just had our first arena show and that was like a month ago.

Andrew: [00:12:48] Great. And like way ahead of the curve,

Emily: [00:12:50] literally zero cases there.

Andrew: [00:12:54] That’s incredible. Yeah, I got kicked out of Canada. Have I told you that story before?

Emily: [00:13:00] No.

Andrew: [00:13:03] Maybe I’ll tell that story another time, but once upon a time, I was sort of kicked out of Canada and sort of just flat out denied entry.

Emily: [00:13:11] Are you banned from Canada?

Andrew: [00:13:14] I don’t think so. Not likely.

Emily: [00:13:17] Okay. Like, what do you have to do?

Andrew: [00:13:21] They were really nice about it. I mean, they’re Canadians. Uh, but yeah, no, I was denied entry. I was trying to go to Canada when I was in middle school. I was on vacation actually up here in Washington. It’s my first time up in Washington and was with a group of folks.

Uh, so it was me, my brother, my mom, and then my friend’s family. So it was his mom, him and his four siblings and another. Uh, another kid that was staying with him at the time, it was going through some weird home stuff. So there was, let’s hear one to seven kids in the car and two moms and only the moms had identification.

So we wanted to go like, right, we’re just going to go drive through Canada for the afternoon egg. And the Canadian border patrol were like, yeah, this looks like human trafficking.

Emily: [00:14:09] They all need

Andrew: [00:14:11] identification and letters from the fathers. Like, come on.

Emily: [00:14:14] Yeah,

Andrew: [00:14:15] so little awkward, but they let us drive over the border stare for a minute and then drive back.

So

Emily: [00:14:21] I’m sorry, where are we? Where are we crossing the border again?

Andrew: [00:14:24] This would have been over on the Spokane side of things.

Emily: [00:14:28] I was too, like, it wasn’t like how there was peace. There’s peace, peace arch park on our side. And it’s actually the one. I think the only place that I know of in Canada that Americans can technically go to because of some weird.

Treaty with the United States that if Canada ever closes peace arch park to Americans, that then America gets a part of Canada by, in Michigan, I think by Detroit, maybe.

Andrew: [00:14:54] Wow. That’s. Some really strange politics.

There’s public park here. And, uh, where else we get to us steal some of your land. That seems reasonable.

Emily: [00:15:09] It does

Andrew: [00:15:11] like to see like, from like an HOA, like, Hey, like you gotta keep your grass green or

Emily: [00:15:17] your lawn because

Andrew: [00:15:19] it’s ours. We own it. Yeah, dude,

Emily: [00:15:22] like those poor for people who were like, if I don’t even know if this land is like inhabited, but if so, like those poor Canadians who are suddenly Americans, ah, no.

Andrew: [00:15:36] Well, I don’t see the issue. They get freedom there. They’re so oppressed for the rat. We would liberate them. Come on.

Emily: [00:15:42] They’re going to get their medical bills are going to shock them.

Andrew: [00:15:45] They don’t even know what a medical bill is. Emily don’t tell me don’t scare them. Yeah. Let them use into it. It’s all worth it.

Want

Emily: [00:15:52] me to cry? Do you want me to cry? I’ll do that. No.

Andrew: [00:15:58] Right. Cause I’ve got medical bills coming up and that looking forward to they’re all planned, but not looking forward to coughing up the money. It feels like robbery. I’m not a fan.

Emily: [00:16:07] Oh, well what’s new with you.

Andrew: [00:16:11] I also, coincidentally went on a short little vacation.

I, uh, uh, me and the fam went out to, we know someone who’s got a lakefront property or sound front property, I guess out, um, in the waterfront

Emily: [00:16:28] you can just say

Andrew: [00:16:29] waterfront, there we go.

Emily: [00:16:33] So then you have to pull the word back. Agree

Andrew: [00:16:36] that time I wasn’t actually, I. Trying to screw that up intentionally. That was just me being weird.

The brain not firing all cylinders anyways, waterfront property out in the sound so far enough out in the boonies where there’s not cell service safer. Like there’s one hole where if you hold the phone, like just right, you get like half a bar of service. And like, you can sort of get through a phone call, but only if you put it on speaker.

Cause if you put it up to your ear, you lose service. I basically turned off my phone the entire five days. It was great. No Facebook, no Twitter, no Instagram, no text messages, no phone calls, no email, just nothing. It was it. Um,

Emily: [00:17:14] uh,

Andrew: [00:17:14] drink some scotch and soda did some kayaking, uh, vegetables were involved. Uh, yeah, it was

Emily: [00:17:22] good time.

Thanks for specifying that vegetables were part of your vacation and leading me to wonder why you had mentioned that

Andrew: [00:17:30] I missed a chunk of that. I meant to say like lots of lean beef. Um, that was part of, ah,

Emily: [00:17:36] Oh, so you’re saying you ate a lot of burgers

Andrew: [00:17:39] now, lean beef and scotch and some kayaking and yes.

Vegetables were involved. You know, the thing is, I, I, that was, I don’t usually rehearse like punchlines that I was like, I was thinking like, I’m going to get this all lined up and then drop in the, okay, fine. I had some vegetables and I just

Emily: [00:17:54] really then how do you feel that you thought that joke out and it landed such a thud.

Andrew: [00:18:02] Uh, I mean,

Emily: [00:18:04] I don’t know. I’m sorry. Did that not come across? I was just confused and I feel like that’s a bad joke. I’m sorry. Wow. That was, that was not what I meant. Oh my God. You asked me what I trained.

Andrew: [00:18:15] That’s my first bad joke in I think 67 episodes. So

Emily: [00:18:19] yeah. Yeah. I was going to say, when you asked me what I was drinking, I couldn’t tell you what I previously drank, which was a little bit of, um, Oh, uh, THC and CBD soda.

Andrew: [00:18:31] Oh, I see. I see. Oh, let’s see if I had known that, Oh, this gets a lot more fun. I guess you get to talk about crunchy things.

Emily: [00:18:39] No,

no, no. Oh yeah. Do we, either of us have any new gear things. I mean, I kind of have a lot, I don’t know what I want to talk about.

Andrew: [00:18:53] I got spent most of last week on vacation and I’ve only been back for a few days and just spent that time catching up on a lot of things. I’ve got some exciting things coming up for Fox Cairo.

We’ve got some exciting things coming up, but I won’t talk about that on the air quite yet. And then yield day job has been treating me very well and given me a lot to work on pretty excited, some projects I’m really excited about. So yeah, I’m actually, it’s good work to come back to. I’m not like, hi, I’m back to work.

Dang it. But there’s a really good, wholesome, wholesome, wholesome week off and specifically the point of the, by the vegetables. I’ll explain that. Okay. I’ll explain that real quick. I’ve been making a point of trying to eat healthier cause COVID has wrecked me. Am I, when I say COVID has wrecked me, I just mean that it gave me an excuse to make the bad life decisions I was wanting to make anyways.

Uh, so I’ve gained a little bit of weight and I’m starting to stare down the possibility that I might possibly be going back into work. You know, sometime in the next 12 months, I should probably start getting back into the shape I was in before COVID. So I can fit into the clothes that I wear for work.

So been eating a lot of, lot of lean meats, a lot of vegetables, not a lot of carbs. I kind of just adjusting my diet to be more fish heavy. And yeah, it’s been feeling a lot better this week, actually. It’s funny how that works.

Emily: [00:20:10] Yeah. Yeah, no, I’m, I’m, I’ve been running a lot more, but I’m pretty much the same way that was when COBIT started.

So at least there’s that. I’m

Andrew: [00:20:23] up 15 pounds. I think

Emily: [00:20:27] I wish I had dropped 15 pounds as at ease.

Andrew: [00:20:32] I think if I keep up with the diet adjustment and if I continue to start working out like I have for the last few weeks, I keep up that pace and slowly start working that new routine. I think I’ll be in much better shape pun intended by the time we, by the time we reopened granted, when that’s going to be, who knows.

Emily: [00:20:52] Yeah. You know, I, um, I had my temperature taken to, you know, some of the places you go now, you have to have your temperature taken before you go in. So someone actually took my temperature. She said that can’t be right. Let me do that again. And she says, this says your temperature is 95.

I was like, knew my temperature kind of ran low. Like my average is more like 96. So I’m like that. Seems wrong. I looked up like, why one might like what happens to the blood body? Temperature is 95 degrees and it says for short periods, nothing, but that’s that’s when you start getting hypothermia. So I suppose that the causes of, of having a low body temperature, one of them said slow metabolism and I’m like, Oh yeah, that sounds like me.

Womp womp womp Nia. Now that I’m on video board. You know, I don’t care that much, actually. I don’t, I don’t, I’m married. I have like 31.

Andrew: [00:22:02] I’m kind of the same way. Like I don’t like honestly care, like what other people are looking at and going you it’s like, it’s honestly, it’s just, for me, I would just like to feel better.

I’d like to know that I’m making healthier decisions and taking care of myself and giving myself a better shot of making it to 80 than, uh, than I would otherwise.

Emily: [00:22:18] Yeah, I’m sure your family would appreciate that.

Andrew: [00:22:21] Probably, uh,

Emily: [00:22:23] your great grandkids.

Andrew: [00:22:26] I’ll just add grandkids.

Emily: [00:22:27] Yeah. Hey man. If you’re worried, if you’re, if you’re worried about whether or not your kids, like you, that means you’re not a parent whose kids would hate them.

Andrew: [00:22:39] It’s always the parents who are like, Oh, my kids love me. And I’m like, is that right? Kids? I’m like, no,

Emily: [00:22:44] it’s always the parents who are like, Like they never let you go see your friends. They emotionally abuse you, or just are rude to never say, sorry to you say, it’s my house, my rules start charging your rent.

The moment you turn 18. And these parents who do like this hard-ass stuff, they’re the ones who are like, Why don’t my kids ever call me

Andrew: [00:23:06] just fair warning. If this turns into a therapy session, I do charge for that.

Emily: [00:23:10] Ah, Oh yeah. We should probably get back to Qataris. No, but I have some, a lot of fun, new gear I’d like to talk about.

Andrew: [00:23:17] Tell me about the gear.

Emily: [00:23:19] Uh, well, I got the arborist by Gail, so that’s like the right half of their sadly defunct. Uh gigantism. Drive, which was a dual drive. It’s like a medium overdrive manic Hills and for like 180

Andrew: [00:23:35] bucks. Nice. That’s a good price point.

Emily: [00:23:41] I think so. Um, and I also have, uh, the other puddle I have, it’s not really a pedal.

It’s the, uh, Thai school interface.

Andrew: [00:23:50] Oh, yay. Yeah.

Emily: [00:23:52] Yeah. So I was just playing around with that yesterday and I was using it to. To learn a song that I’m afraid. It must be in a decent, socially the sense gig with her. So I’m like, well, it’s just to me the song first. And so I was using it to like learn her song and it’s really neat.

It’s like a little USB plug goes into your computer and I didn’t try it with studio one, but I did try it with the, uh, the band lab. It’s like an in-browser kind of just like garage band type thing. Right. And so I was just thinking with that, and that has like these guitar sound presets, and it’s not, I haven’t figure it out if there’s a point where you could be like, okay, so let’s add, like, let’s create the signal chain based on this stuff or anything like that.

But it is like, Uh, here’s a jazzy clean, here’s a blues rock. Here’s a hard rock. Here’s a heavy metal. Here’s a like shoe gaze, which was a pretty funny one. I thought just being able to kind of like dial in a general sound and play over the track. Um, Versus like slugging all of my pedals or even a couple pedals into an interface, uh, to learn the song just because you want it to, I liked it.

I liked it to at least sound like an overdriven guitar, even when, like, even if it has a lot of other effects as I’m learning it. I don’t know. I think it just like that just helps me like cut through the mix over the track. Probably. Does that make sense?

Andrew: [00:25:24] Yeah. I mean, sure.

Emily: [00:25:26] Yeah. Well that’s just me, but it was really handy for that.

So that’s cool. And so I guess I’ll be doing a video with that and the next couple of weeks, but I don’t know exactly when yet.

Andrew: [00:25:38] So I am going to ask the question,

you know, the questions coming.

Emily: [00:25:46] I really don’t know what you’re talking about.

Andrew: [00:25:49] Wait, wait, are you, when do I get my pedals back?

Emily: [00:25:54] Oh my gosh. Do you want to, do you want to, do you want to be a little bit mad at me, but understand that this is all very last minute. No,

Andrew: [00:26:02] I’m not actually mad. I just like to tease.

Emily: [00:26:05] I was in [meow] this morning.

Andrew: [00:26:07] Oh no. Don’t say that out loud.

Emily: [00:26:12] Ah, okay.

Andrew: [00:26:16] Do you ever in my neighborhood,

Emily: [00:26:21] I’m really sorry. I was in your neighborhood. I was in your neighborhood. I forgot. Um, no, but I was in your neighborhood. Doing a socially distance rehearsal, but it was really early. And I was in a big time crunch and I left the house and was like, Oh,

Andrew: [00:26:44] No, you’re all good. I honestly had a migraine this morning was like not in commission at all, so I probably wouldn’t have even answered my phone.

Emily: [00:26:52] Yikes. Okay. Well, I feel a little less bad. I’m sorry you had a migraine, but I’m glad it I’m glad that saved my ass.

Andrew: [00:27:01] I’ll probably be headed that direction probably by the end of the week to go. I see the soil boys.

Emily: [00:27:09] Oh, yeah. Soy to boys side. As in sinusoid boys, not as in the weird insult that some men make toward other men.

Andrew: [00:27:20] Right, right. Like they’re like soybeans have estrogen and like, and

Emily: [00:27:26] no dumbest part about like that insult, like implying that soy beans raise male estrogen

Andrew: [00:27:33] levels. I mean I do, but I’m going to let you say it, you

Emily: [00:27:39] know, why do I think I must have, we might have had this conversation already, but it’s because soy has.

As Virginia, but it’s plant estrogen. So our bodies don’t absorb it the same. What does reduce well, increase estrogen is dairy cows milk. So your good old American, uh, milk cow, cow farm. You count milk that y’all all American boys drink. Uh, the kind of guys who say soy, probably in your yogurt and your ice cream in your cheese.

It’s increasing your estrogen levels. You’re the cyborg.

Wow. There’s a lot of blank space in this episode. I don’t know why

Andrew: [00:28:30] it’s it’s. Yeah, I think after last week’s episode, uh, which I think was very well received, I think it was very necessary, um, message. I think the heaviness of that, and still kind of coming down from. On that topic though, like seriously, thanks to everybody who sent the show, uh, encouraging messages, uh, reading through the messages that we got in response to that episode, I think has given me an extra dash of hope for the future of the music industry.

Uh, give, allowing me to dream a little bit of a day when, uh, everybody can feel included and safe in the music industry. And I’m looking forward to seeing more of what that turns into. So you guys are all honestly, You guys are all the heroes and keep up the good work, fight, fight the good fight. We appreciate it.

Emily: [00:29:14] And you know, a drink milk. If you want to drink milk tofu, if you want to eat tofu,

Andrew: [00:29:20] tofu is great.

Emily: [00:29:21] I know I disagree.

Andrew: [00:29:24] Well, you can’t have soy.

Emily: [00:29:26] I don’t think it’s great. It’s personally, for me, it’s not great. That means it can’t be great for anybody,

Andrew: [00:29:32] right? Like maths,

Emily: [00:29:35] like masks or like interactions with certain professions.

Andrew: [00:29:42] All right. Shall we.

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Andrew: [00:30:15] orange, uh, it’s peeling. I had a, a lack of sunscreen mishap on a very long kayak adventure.

Emily: [00:30:23] Oh, bummer. Um, to get back to blister and peel. So that’s what you meant is like, it’s what will be happening to your face. Gotcha.

Andrew: [00:30:31] It’s already ha like my face is currently like peeling with dead skin.

Emily: [00:30:35] I thought you said it was going to be, it was, did you literally say it’d be orange, like your face or did you mean blister and peel like your

Andrew: [00:30:40] face blister and peel? Like my face more? She didn’t even know, or no, I have not frequented any spray tanning booths or white houses lately.

Emily: [00:30:50] Geez. I’m sorry. Yeah, I think he has, uh, Dan has a couple of those left in stock as of recording, so I’m sure he’ll

Andrew: [00:31:02] gun.

Emily: [00:31:04] I mean, I’m sure he’ll make more, but yeah, if you, if you’re more interested in trying it sooner, rather than later, maybe get on that and maybe tell him we sent you. No, he’s great. Um, yeah, that’s, that’s the sponsor I have.

Andrew: [00:31:19] Well, cool beans.

Emily: [00:31:21] Yeah. Yeah. Well, I’m happy to have, um, um, my dream sponsor for the show is maybe like fender.

Oh yeah.

Andrew: [00:31:34] I think that would be nice.

Emily: [00:31:36] Yeah, that would be nice. Maybe they could make me a signature guitar and you one of course,

Andrew: [00:31:41] distinguished

Emily: [00:31:43] dignified, dignified. Um, That kind of, I was trying to kind of force a lead in to the subject

Andrew: [00:31:52] and I’m just intentionally being up to and not just waiting to see how hard you have to push to get as lead into the subject.

Emily: [00:31:59] Yeah. Listeners, can you leave a comment in our Facebook group or on our Instagram page or literally anywhere and tell us that was that. Was that whole bit, Andrew is doing funny or awkward.

Andrew: [00:32:11] Oh, it’s 100% awkward and not necessarily funny, but it’s entertaining. See, it doesn’t have to be funny to be entertaining.

Emily: [00:32:23] I mean, it’s like, do you want, do you want to be the kind of entertaining that’s like, because

Andrew: [00:32:28] you were entertaining, you mentioned signature guitar

Emily: [00:32:32] or do you want to be the kind of entertaining that’s like. Watching two people fight from across the food court.

Andrew: [00:32:40] I think both have,

Emily: [00:32:42] I don’t know. Oh yeah, they do.

But like one, one is really bad reality TV and one is like something someone put work into

Andrew: [00:32:52] yeah, this, but this is just like reality conversation that like, I don’t have enough. I couldn’t even script a joker that you think I would have script out an awkward social interaction.

Emily: [00:33:04] See,

Andrew: [00:33:05] this is reality.

Podcasting. I think that’s what this is.

Emily: [00:33:08] Sure. All right. All right. Cool. I just wish that I just can’t throw my beverage into your face through the microphone. So I don’t know if it’s going to work like that

Andrew: [00:33:17] at this point, imagining like whoever’s listening to this, like fight, fight, fight,

Emily: [00:33:21] fight, fight. That would just literally be me kicking you out of the room.

Andrew: [00:33:27] Yeah. I’ve, I’ve got absolutely no power in this situation, so I’m

Emily: [00:33:31] definitely before

Andrew: [00:33:33] you have, and it’s rude and it hurt my feelings. So,

Emily: [00:33:38] Oh my God. I reserved

Andrew: [00:33:40] my right to be an impetuous Brett, in the meantime, let’s talk signature guitars. Cause there’s an admitted via Hufflepuff about that lately.

Emily: [00:33:48] Well, I don’t know if I don’t think I would say, I don’t know maybe, but what I did want to say was, um, what we’re talking about dear listeners is the day that this podcast is dropping August 4th, uh, fender we’ll have available a limited edition Shawn Mendes foundation master it’s a signature guitar kind of thing.

It’s actually it’s it’s it seems to be the foundation’s signature guitar or. Like, is there a Shawn Mendes foundation or is the name of the guitar, the foundation music master? No.

Andrew: [00:34:26] No. So those Shawn Mendes foundation is it’s an, a separate foundation that Shawn has put together, which I think is kind of cool.

I’m a fan of foundations.

Emily: [00:34:37] Sometimes they’re good. Sometimes they’re not,

Andrew: [00:34:42] sometimes they just want to put microchips inside of you. I

Emily: [00:34:45] could do

Andrew: [00:34:47] that with a straight

Emily: [00:34:48] face. Sorry. Sometimes they fund eight COVID vaccines and sometimes there is sometimes, sometimes the family of the president just spends their own foundation money.

Andrew: [00:35:00] Ooh.

Emily: [00:35:03] Listen, I think it’s probably happened with both sides

Andrew: [00:35:08] anyways. So it’s a foundation that seeks to inspire Shawn’s audience, which is a younger generation to learn about, uh, music and stuff. So

Emily: [00:35:18] causes that they are passionate about is what’s the bio that you were reading from?

Andrew: [00:35:25] I wasn’t, I was

Emily: [00:35:27] going off memory.

No, you have whatever. Um, Yeah, the Shawn Mendes foundation does seek to inspire Shawn audience, his generation today to learn about those causes that they are passionate about and help empower them to use the voice. They have to bring change to the world by taking action and giving back. Like, I’m not gonna say anything bad about this foundation, but I have no idea what they do from that description.

It is empower children. That’s fair.

Andrew: [00:35:55] That is, you know what, it’s time to do some real times to the thing. And it was, it, it sounds like Shaun’s not getting any money from this. It sounds like it’s all going into a foundation, which presumably would at least hopefully do something positive.

Emily: [00:36:09] Yeah, totally. In, you know, if nothing else it is a positively beautiful guitar.

Andrew: [00:36:15] Oh, I think, I think so as well. Oh, this is great.

Emily: [00:36:19] Can you describe it or are you going? No, no, no. I

Andrew: [00:36:22] I’m already on the foundation

Emily: [00:36:23] website, I click on our work cause that’s where

Andrew: [00:36:27] I started strolling down because there’s like a huge graphic to scroll through in the middle of it. It says inspire, empower act.

And then I scrapped a scroll, like another three pages worth to get down to the, to the rest of it.

Emily: [00:36:39] There are what we do. There are work pages, literally like their Instagram feed.

Andrew: [00:36:46] All right. So our areas of focus are children’s health care, youth empowerment, sustainability education, anti-bullying human rights and mental health.

I think that’s a reasonable list.

Emily: [00:36:56] These are all good things. Yeah. So I just feel like there’s a better, like, will you describe what

Andrew: [00:37:00] it is

Emily: [00:37:02] like it’s like, it’s like, they just want to specify this is for his fans somehow. Oh, because it literally is chosen by his fans and other areas shows it by Shawn’s audience, click here to donate and have your say,

Andrew: [00:37:16] Oh, what’s up like a crowdsourced foundation

Emily: [00:37:21] or is she able to learn alongside Shawn?

So it’s like a, a charity that is a fan club or fan club that is a charity. It’s like a fan club foundation. Cause it kind of seems like he. It goes through some sort of process with the fans,

Andrew: [00:37:40] see what they care about and do that.

Emily: [00:37:42] Okay. I mean, they’re literally the only people who would donate to this foundation.

So it makes sense that they have.

Andrew: [00:37:48] Right. Right. Well, anyways, all of that to say, uh, I’m going to continue looking at this foundation, but I don’t see anything that’s out, out outright negative or

Emily: [00:37:58] no, just like it’s, it’s a silly, it’s a vague, it’s vague. And I think that they should address that for their own benefit.

Sure, but that’s nothing to do with the guitar,

Andrew: [00:38:08] nothing to do with the guitar. Aside from the fact that it looks like proceeds are being donated to this foundation. So that’s something to keep in mind as we have this conversation. And I know, so I think the guitar

Emily: [00:38:20] itself honest, honestly, even if it wasn’t, it’s a beautiful guitar, which I assume you were about to describe visually,

Andrew: [00:38:26] I was about to describe visually.

So we’ve got like a floral pattern underneath. It looks like an etched golden iodized Picard.

Emily: [00:38:34] Yeah. It was like wheat on it or some sort of sprouted grass situation or maybe not, not cattails

Andrew: [00:38:43] some feathers maybe.

Emily: [00:38:45] Okay. No, I think if it, if it’s, I think it would make the most sense for it to stay within the floral theme.

Andrew: [00:38:51] Right. And so it’s not a clear picture. So the first time I looked at this ever so briefly, I was like, Oh, it’s a clear Picard, which is, uh, and alongside with the floral background, kind of like a wallpaper thing underneath the lacquer. Yeah.

Emily: [00:39:04] That’s a great way to describe it wallpaper.

Andrew: [00:39:07] It’s uh, it’s straight up.

It’s a nod to the vintage fender Paisley guitars, which are super cool. Have, are, are rightfully respected and have a great place amongst Fender’s history.

Emily: [00:39:22] Well, didn’t like them at first.

Andrew: [00:39:23] Sure. Screw them. I think they’re great. So. I think this is a stylistically, it’s a really cool nod to that and kind of taking on that concept and expanding on it in a unique way.

So to that end, it’s not traditional and it’s traditional all in the same sense and actually kind of like that.

Emily: [00:39:39] I really, really like, uh, I, there’s only one thing I don’t like about it.

Andrew: [00:39:43] We got a hard tail.

Emily: [00:39:45] No, no, I don’t like that. The flowers are growing sideways as you’re playing it. This is obviously that’s.

And that worries me because it makes me think that this guitar is going to be so expensive, that it will only exist to hang on a wall.

Andrew: [00:39:58] Hmm. That’s an interesting way to look at it. I hadn’t considered that. I guess the florals are not floral. The Paisley patterns that they use because there’s the blue one and the pink one are the two main ones that they did.

And looking at this. We’re looking at those, those are a lot less directionally focused and this is very much up and down. Yeah, this is up and down. I like that. I liked the hardtail actually on it. Uh it’s cause it is a music master. So that’s also stylistically AI, a touchback. The pickups are a little bit strange.

We’ve got a single coil, an angled single coil in the bridge position and a humbucker in the neck position. Which is, I’ve seen a couple of people complain about like, Oh, that’s so lame. I’m like, I dunno, there’s some vintage Teles that have that pickup configuration. That also sound great. So I’d want to hear it before judging the, uh, how dumb the pickup configuration is.

I like that it’s not

Emily: [00:40:52] standard. Yeah. Uh, the knobs are interesting. They’re just, uh, they’re like the opposite of the tour

Andrew: [00:40:58] now. Yeah. Uh, through it. So one tone, one volume likely a three way toggle. And, uh, it looks like a maple neck. Non-matching headstock.

Emily: [00:41:13] Well, I

Andrew: [00:41:14] mean, 21 Fred’s

Emily: [00:41:21] yeah. I mean,

Andrew: [00:41:22] I think it’s cool.

Emily: [00:41:24] Super duper dig it. I

Andrew: [00:41:25] mean, I, a mix of something old, something new and I. I think people who are complaining that this looks ugly and unknown. The thing is

Emily: [00:41:33] I w I would literally do this on a guitar. Like I have thought about like, getting some wrapping paper wallpaper. That was a design that I like and trying to basically like a modge, podge it to the guitar and like clear coat and sand it down and do a kind of, um, fade on the end there versus kind of at the ends.

Like if I was to paint a guitar, like. If I don’t have any body size, I would do just two right now. But if it was like a not very pretty like base foot or something, yeah. I would fully do that.

Andrew: [00:42:09] I think this is, yeah. So that’s my thoughts on the guitar itself. And we’ve already talked briefly about the foundation. I mean, it boils down to it. It’s you buy it? Money gets donated to charity. Everybody wins.

Emily: [00:42:21] Yeah.

Andrew: [00:42:23] The question that I’ve seen toss around a couple of forms already. Like the first thing that people like, the question that they’re jumping to is really this dude gets a signature.

They just handing out signatures that anybody like all my God, just anybody.

Emily: [00:42:36] What, how many, how many, how many Grammys has he been? I

Andrew: [00:42:40] have no idea. Um, I don’t know tons about his musical career to know a couple of his songs. Um, just from being a casual consumer of terrestrial radio. And

Emily: [00:42:53] I like, I mean, I don’t dislike what I’ve heard.

It’s not like for me the most, it’s not what I would choose to listen to, but whenever I hear it, I’m like that’s rice. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Andrew: [00:43:04] Shawn Mendes. Isn’t he Canadian? Yeah. He is Canadian. I win. I win. It’s

Emily: [00:43:09] only two he’s only 21. Wow.

Andrew: [00:43:12] Dang dude.

Emily: [00:43:14] Damn.

Andrew: [00:43:17] What’s up with like Canadian, like kid wonder pop stars.

Emily: [00:43:21] His agent, well, as Wilamena models that you said the modeling agency, but I guess they expand it, but yeah, I can see him being prepped by a modeling agency

Andrew: [00:43:34] and he’s not a not looking good looking dude.

Emily: [00:43:38] That’s, that’s putting it lightly. He’s very conventionally attractive.

Andrew: [00:43:45] He has some features that I, I resonate with.

Emily: [00:43:50] Jesus has awards and nomination section on Wikipedia, just redirected to an entire article about his awards and nominations. Wow.

Andrew: [00:44:02] So just on a surface level, looking at that and going, I think this dude is a complish musical career, so there’s that as far as weather. So I think that’s that can’t possibly be part of an argument of fenders.

Just handing out signatures to just anybody. Cause you, you, that’s not. You can’t make that argument. You really

Emily: [00:44:25] can’t. He’s one of the biggest pop stars alive right now who plays a guitar.

Andrew: [00:44:31] So I think that’s notable. And as far as like, whether or not he’s a great musician, I honestly haven’t watched him play guitar.

I think the fact

Emily: [00:44:40] that they just dropped it, I feel sick every time I’ve seen it, actually wait, I’m pretty sure I have seen him play electric on SNL. Maybe

Andrew: [00:44:46] I heard he used to play John Mayer. Uh, so that’s kinda neat. I mean, I definitely see the influence listening to his music a little bit, the poppier end of mirror.

Emily: [00:45:00] So you’re saying the sh by that you meant the silver sky, right? The PRS or the, or the John Mayer has signature Stratocaster,

Andrew: [00:45:09] didn’t they? Yeah.

Emily: [00:45:11] Oh, gosh. I’m so dumb. I’m sorry. I’m sorry for interrupting. You. No, you’re

Andrew: [00:45:15] all good. I could be misremembering. I just want to say that that’s what

Emily: [00:45:20] he

Andrew: [00:45:20] was

Emily: [00:45:20] playing. He definitely plays, um, mostly fender guitars, according to equip board, mostly strats and Teles on the electric side.

Andrew: [00:45:32] All right. Here we go. So I found a site that’s claiming that. So it is a fender, John mere signature Stratocaster. So I got that. Right. And it’s claiming that John Mayer gave it to them. Oh,

Emily: [00:45:44] damn.

Andrew: [00:45:46] And then here’s a picture of an, yeah, here’s a picture of the, of the guitar and the case with a note from John Mayer that says to shine, enjoy.

Emily: [00:45:57] So I am looking at this white pop male Superstore, Scott, look out for each other. That’s a

Andrew: [00:46:02] mafia. Imagine that mafia meeting.

Emily: [00:46:10] So which heartthrob isn’t that like? Basically like literally a part of godfather, one

Andrew: [00:46:14] like the guy’s

Emily: [00:46:16] nephew wants to be a singer.

Andrew: [00:46:18] Yeah. I just I’m imagining. Imagine, like, let’s see her Justin Bieber, Justin Timberlake, John Mayer, Shawn Mendes, like all sitting in a room and like, like smoking cigars in tuxes, kind of a thing.

and ed Sheeran walks in. He’s like, Hey boys, can I be with you? And. They issue him for not being conventionally good looking. And then he goes on to have a great career, despite their attempts to stop. I feel like that could be like an alternate universe kind of.

Emily: [00:46:53] Okay. You keep workshopping that I’m

Andrew: [00:46:55] in a workshop that theory, this is going to be, this is going to sell so many theater tickets.

It’s going to be great.

Emily: [00:47:01] So yeah, the, the idea, the idea of what we’re trying to say with, with the. Th th w we see as complaints a lot for pretty much, anytime somebody gets a signature guitar, it seems like even when Ernie bolded, the st. Vincent signature, there are people like really that person, a signature guitar.

There’s always going to be some, some dumb, dumb somewhere who, who like. Doesn’t think this person is famous or influential guitarist because that’s not who their idea of influential is. And they’re like, why did that person get a signature guitar? There’s so many better signatures. There’s only like more well known guitarist that are playing guitarists or whatever.

But like, if you look at pop music, right, right now, there’s not a ton of like just conventional pop music. That uses guitars at all. So it makes so much sense to me, that brands, when they see someone who’s famous and actually probably inspiring more inspirational to teenagers, picking up a guitar than anybody else probably is the most visible.

So when people see when kids see like Shawn Mendes or, and Sharon or Taylor Swift, um, and folks like that, playing guitar inspires them to pick one up and. They’re probably going to want to pick up their favorite artists. The problem is with those younger artists, I think one of the reasons they don’t get the signature guitars so much is because, uh, when the fan doesn’t make as much money.

So that, it’s another reason. I’m really curious about this. Being a music master instead of a strata cast or telecast or a jazz master, anything else? That’s traditionally expensive. Yeah, exactly. So it does worry me that it’s it I’m worried that it will be too expensive for his fans to buy.

Andrew: [00:48:57] Right.

Emily: [00:48:57] I think they had to have thought of that though, right?

Andrew: [00:49:01] Yeah. I can’t imagine that they got this far, the process like, Oh shoot. Did we, Hey John, did we think about this?

Emily: [00:49:09] That’s like, that’s trippy. Like one of the first questions I asked. So if this is the fastest person, make enough money that they would. Spend enough money,

Andrew: [00:49:18] they’re spending three, $400 on tickets to shows.

So, I mean, there’s that,

Emily: [00:49:22] ah, you’re right. I mean,

Andrew: [00:49:25] so I’m going to say something it’s time. It’s time for me to say something slightly. Incendiary Sandy area here is. And in regards to the crowd, that’s saying like, Hey, he, like, he doesn’t deserve, he doesn’t deserve a signature guitar. And I’m just thinking about like another signature art artists.

That’s getting a signature model from, from Gibson. That’s being released here soon and looking at how many Grammys they’ve been nominated for. And not that this should be the, the number one. Metric for deciding whether or not somebody gets a signature guitar, but I’m looking at this going Adam Jones has two Grammy nominations and Shawn Mendes has three.

I’m not saying that makes, I’m not saying Adam Jones is a worst guitar player. So I’m saying, I’m just saying in terms of social impact, recognizability and in branding potential, I think that’s all gotta be, let’s be honest. It’s not all about how good someone is a guitar. That those are all. Other factors that play into this.

And at the end of the day, they’re accomplished musicians, both of them.

Emily: [00:50:28] And like does every influential guitarist have to be a shredder? I mean, that’s why Taylor Swift is a very functional guitarist, if nothing else. And. But she inspires people to write music. And Shawn Mendes probably inspires people to write music.

Cause it’s my understanding. He writes his music and so does ed Sheeran. And I think that seems, that’s a big difference with these, these pop stars who are getting significant cars, who aren’t famous for being technical players. And the way that, you know, John Mayer, uh, is, is that they, they inspire people to write songs and that’s.

A lot of what you do when you’re a teenager or a young person that you have a guitar, you don’t like there aren’t a ton of us. I think who just, who don’t have never had any aspirations to, to compose.

Andrew: [00:51:19] Right. I mean, I know the reason why I bring that up is not so much like try and I’m not trying to point out that the one’s a better musician or the other, because the boiled down to it, we can have that argument all day long.

And I honestly, I think Adam Jones would probably win, but. The point in saying that is what begs the question. What is the purpose of a signature signature guitar? What is trying to be accomplished? What messaging is that sending and kind of sit and think about this for more than 30 seconds. So it’s like, well, it’s clearly not just to celebrate someone for being a great artist.

That’s that’s there. That’s not the be all end, all it. As far as what gives someone a signature guitar, you can be a phenomenal guitar player, not get a signature guitar. Well, there’s more to it than that. There’s gotta be some brand value involved for the company that’s making it. There’s gotta be. And then looking past that, you could even look into some more terms of who is this inspiring, trying to inspire a younger audience.

I think that’s incredibly noble and that’s very much worth a company like fender sinking, some time into.

Emily: [00:52:24] Yeah. I mean, they would not make a guitar if they didn’t like available commercially, if they did not think they could sell that guitar.

Andrew: [00:52:31] Right. Right. So not, I’m not saying that you, you ha you can’t like good players.

Shouldn’t have. A signature guitar, but it’s not as cut and dry as are they an excellent guitar player that are, they like the top 50 guitar players of all time? It’s not about that. That’s I think that’s what some people are getting swept up into is like, Hey, like the Shawn Mendes giddy, isn’t one of the top hundred greatest guitars of all time.

I’m like, okay. And kids 21 for starters and for two is, that’s not why people are making signature guitars. There’s more to it than that. It’s a bigger picture. It’s a bigger world. And also, you know, on a related. Tangential part of it. I think people are just insecure that, Hey, what’s this 21 year old white dude getting a signature from like, dude, he’s worked hard.

Get it, let him have it.

Emily: [00:53:17] I mean, he’s, he’s, he’s successful and there are things that come with success that are cool. And it sounds like he’s trying to do something good with, with his success, um, via whatever the foundation is. I mean, I mean, maybe they price this guitar. I think it’s unlikely that they price this guitar and like, um, The range of what most of us probably think a fender music master should cost, but my guess is they make it extremely limited in charge.

And then the guitars and the big really expensive. Yeah.

Andrew: [00:53:48] I could see them charging like five grand for this. Just the way that they’re setting this up.

Emily: [00:53:53] Yeah. Yeah. The whole setup seems a little bit more like this is for a foundation, which is another thing that I think would prep somebody to spend more money, shut up

Andrew: [00:54:02] the extra cash.

Yeah.

Emily: [00:54:04] Nothing wrong with it, nothing wrong with it. That’s that’s supply and demand, but it’s also marketing. Oh

Andrew: [00:54:09] yeah. I mean it’s business. And if you’re getting upset with vendor running their business, well, I mean, come on, it’s not like they’re trying to charge $5,000 for their quote unquote, top of line guitars that have serious quality control issues.

I mean, no one else to do that. Um, Nope. I do that. I’m just waiting for the, for the comments. Cause give it like two weeks and there’s going to be some 15 year old rich kid. Who’s going to end up with one of these cause their, their parents bought it for them.

Emily: [00:54:36] Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. That’s how the world,

Andrew: [00:54:40] or they’re going to some, kid’s gonna post a video of them playing it and be like, look, I got a new guitar and a bunch of people that get to be like, no, it played for 20 years.

I don’t have a guitar that nice you such. And I’m like, I’m waiting for that to happen. It’s going. I swear. It’s I don’t see a world where this doesn’t happen and just preemptively. I’d like to say, let the kid have fun.

Emily: [00:55:04] Yeah. Yeah, I, yeah. I’m with you on that one, but, um, I, I think there are some, there are some people who I think would make, um, gosh, I’m going to start that over.

Um, give me two seconds. I swear to God. I had a thought. Yikes. Um,

you know, I don’t, I guess, damn I don’t. This is really embarrassing for me. I’m looking at my open tabs and I’m wondering why I had these open and how I was going to transition into what I want to talk about, which is another thing that fender said was that they were going to this. They announced that they were going to do a bunch of signature models this year, including.

More than they’ve ever had for women. And they still have about four months to do this. And, uh, so I’m like, I’m not worried that they’re not going to release any guitars, but I’m curious about who they might be like, do you think there’ll be. Women who have been playing for a really long time though. I don’t know if like Nancy Wilson plays fender guitars.

I think she feels like she’s a Gibson girl, girl. Um, but I think, I think that he’s going to be like some, some, some really great women in India who are going to have some signature guitars. And I, I had had a guess as to who two of them might be. Do you wanna hear my guesses?

Oh, boy, Sandra did

Andrew.

Andrew: [00:56:55] Oh, I’m back. I’m back. Sorry. My, my browser decided to mute itself automatically out of the blue. Sorry about that.

Emily: [00:57:03] I thought you just muted because it was clear my thought wasn’t going anywhere, but, um, yeah, I have some guesses on who I think. Uh, Mike, get a signature fender guitar this year. If you’re curious about what I think,

Andrew: [00:57:14] I am curious to hear what you think.

Emily: [00:57:16] Yeah. I think one of them is going to be, uh, Alicia from bully eye. Are you familiar with that band?

Andrew: [00:57:24] You just cut out is Sue. I heard, I think one of my best, my guesses is going to be, and then blink for like five seconds. And then I heard I’ve never heard of that bed. And I’m like,

Emily: [00:57:36] so for the listeners, sometimes the audio cuts out, seemingly cuts out for Andrew or Iowa while the other is talking.

And it always like reappears in posts somehow. So I’m not going to repeat everything I just said, have you heard of the ban bully?

Andrew: [00:57:53] I have.

Emily: [00:57:55] Yeah. Yeah. So Alicia from bully a they’re a band based out of Nashville, um, and just rock, but she has this old Squire, 51, it’s like a square 51 body, uh, with, um, with a different neck and it is a bluesman neck and she doesn’t know if the bluesmen made the neck or if it was a fender neck and it got redone.

Um, but. Uh, it looks like it’s a very custom guitar that was given to her. Uh, and it’s really, it’s really cool. It’s like it’s green, like mint surf green, maybe. Yeah. Surf green, I would say. And, uh, it looks like a tele neck at an angle and then a humbucker in the bridge and just a simple hardtail. It’s a seven mismatch knobs.

And I, I could imagine fender doing this one. I think that a 51 is something that hasn’t been done in a minute. It’s a kind of a goofy, goofy shape. Like an unusual shape is still familiar in its own ways. And then it has that surf green color. So I think that I would not be surprised if one of the guitars is this.

What do you think, do you think that’s it? Do you think that, that, do you think, I guess makes sense.

Andrew: [00:59:17] I think that guest’s makes sense and I think it would be rad, but those are my two thoughts.

Emily: [00:59:22] Yeah. I mean, she’s not the most famous person in the world, not the most famous guitarists in indie rock or female guitarists, even in indie rock probably, but I think bullies big enough and that if, if they don’t have that name recognition recognition, uh, I think that just having a unique body itself and doing something unique, kind of like the Squire paranormal series, I think that would sell guitars even without her name attached to it.

And I think that attaching her name to it. It’s just like a sweet little bonus.

Andrew: [00:59:54] Yeah. I mean something that fender does really, really well that I think Gibson is. Still trying to figure out how to do is kind of taking a little bit of something old and classic and then adding something new. Yeah. And do it and pulling it off and not saying that fender hasn’t or Gibson, hasn’t been able to do that at all, but I’ve been, and that’s a complaint.

I hear a lot that I think has some value to it. Yeah, fender does that so well, and to see a lesser known vintage model get pulled like that for a signature. I think that’s very unbrand for fender. I think that showcases how flexible the friend fender brand can be, which I think is just marvelous personally,

Emily: [01:00:32] but totally.

I mean, I could, I could have seen this in the Squire paranormal line. I’m almost sad that they did the tour and auto instead of this. So I’m sure I will get lots of booze and hisses for saying that.

Andrew: [01:00:44] Yay. I mean, they did what they did. I still think the, uh, the new lineup is phenomenal.

Emily: [01:00:51] Oh, I know you like the Toronado didn’t you.

Sorry, I like this better. I just think I just liked this one better.

Andrew: [01:00:59] It’s all a matter of preference. It would be silly if someone like every single one of them to outstanding degree. That’s why there’s writing. There’s something for everybody. Anyways. All of that to say, to take it to the next, in terms of whether or not they have name recognition.

Sure. That’s going to have that. I would say that’s a strike against whether or not that possibly happens, but at the same time, looking at the different markets that Fender’s trying to reach, trying to hit a broader range of target markets. I think that. If simultaneously is a plus in terms of inspiring a certain audience, a certain group of people to continue to learn and get excited about music and participate because realistically, a future in music that is homogenous sounds boring.

I think fender knows that, and I think they’re willing to put their money behind that.

Emily: [01:01:51] Yeah, probably. Um, are you ready for my next guest? Actually, I have three. I forgot that I had three and if we only get through two, that’s fine.

Andrew: [01:01:59] I gave all my thoughts, thinking I only had to give it one more fine. Give me all three. Come on. Let’s do it.

Emily: [01:02:03] I think the next one is Melanie Faye. Do you know who she is?

Andrew: [01:02:07] Yes.

Emily: [01:02:08] Yes, she is. Babe. Well, has she said she’s 22. She’s younger than me. She’s close to your age. Um, and a fellow tourists. Uh, but basically she,

Andrew: [01:02:21] right.

Emily: [01:02:23] She’s a Taurus

Andrew: [01:02:24] like driving the Taurus. I didn’t know you have a tourist.

Emily: [01:02:28] Oh, right. Uh, but yeah, she’s based out of Nashville. I think technically. But I would love, she plays fender strats.

Like that’s why I’ve seen her with the most. And I can imagine a Melanie Faye, a fender Strat would be awesome.

Andrew: [01:02:48] Awesome.

Emily: [01:02:49] Yeah. And she’s, she likes that, that, um, that light blue color, like basketball though, I think. Yeah. But I would love to see something, please.

Andrew: [01:03:00] Daphne blue,

Emily: [01:03:01] Jesse blue, probably. I’m probably wrong.

It’s the truth. And I am man enough to admit it. Yeah. But she’s got that blue Strat that she plays a lot. And I think that would be fantastic just to have, and like maybe something even a little more fun that sets her. That’s her personality. Now

Andrew: [01:03:25] she’s a phenomenal player. I think deserves much more recognition she’s already got she’s already got quite a following.

Emily: [01:03:32] Yeah. She already has quite a relationship with fender.

Andrew: [01:03:36] Yep. So I could, I think that would be a shoe in, I think that just makes sense.

Emily: [01:03:41] Yeah, that’d be so cool. She’s talented. Um, and then my last

Andrew: [01:03:47] counted.

Emily: [01:03:48] Yeah, my, my last guest. So all of these guesses are just women I’m fans of enough to know that they play offenders.

Last one is, is Julien Baker because she is pretty much, pretty much always has her, um, her, her Telecasters and usually butterscotch Teles. So that’s the one that, that you like. So I was like, I think it’d be cool to see. Cool to see something from, from her. Same with her name on it,

Andrew: [01:04:19] I suppose. It’s possible.

Emily: [01:04:21] Yes. Do you know, Joel? You don’t know virtual a Baker. Oh man. Really?

Andrew: [01:04:27] I feel like I’m, I mean, the name sounds super familiar, but

Emily: [01:04:31] well it’s two years ago, Julian. Gosh, Julie, Julian Baker, like Julian Lennon, Julian Baker. Um, but she, uh, Rose to like indie rock success when she released, uh, this EAP called sprained ankle.

It’s I’m pretty sure, literally just her. And a guitar, her own guitars and maybe some other instrumentation here and there, but it’s very sparse, very guitar driven and lie. Every time I’ve seen her, it’s literally just her, her pedalboard her Looper, us temps her, uh, Sylvan I’ll come, I’ll play a little violin with her, but she also plays piano and acoustic guitar on a couple of songs.

So she’s just a shredder. She’s a really talented and, um, Emotive guitarist and has a big following. And she’s, she’s a woman in indie rock. Who’s known for being a killer guitarist. And there aren’t a lot. There aren’t a lot of those

Andrew: [01:05:33] various following. How have I never heard of her?

Emily: [01:05:37] I don’t

Andrew: [01:05:38] know. I feel like I’ve been robbed of not finding out about this sooner.

Emily: [01:05:42] What’s that KXP is at the top. And so the pop radio,

Andrew: [01:05:46] I, I listened to KEXP and I am an amplifier of KXP. Thank you very much.

Emily: [01:05:52] Uh, so

Andrew: [01:05:53] patient followed by ADA five pancakes,

Emily: [01:05:57] clarify. I want to clarify, there are a lot of talented women and who played guitar in indie rock right now. And that was a really stupid thing of me to say.

And as soon as I said it, five came into mind. So, whoops.

Andrew: [01:06:11] I mean,

Emily: [01:06:12] that was a dumb thing to say. I can’t get around it.

I’m sorry. Sure.

Andrew: [01:06:21] Like a good way for me to comment on that,

Emily: [01:06:22] but it was so stupid. What was I fuck? What was I thinking? I could just say SPE CD deeply and be done with it, but she doesn’t, but she plays a moniker guitar, not a fender. So I didn’t think about it. Oh, gosh, I’m such a Michelle from Japanese breakfast also is a killer guitarist.

So there’s

Andrew: [01:06:42] right

Emily: [01:06:43] off the bat. I don’t know if she plays vendors. I know I’m also very much. I think Lindsay ELL is a country artist. Who’s a, who’s a good bet because that woman that takes a strata, KA is famous for taking strata casters and doing. This kind of spin, spin art paint on it. Um, and she’s has some country hits.

She is really phenomenal. Guitarist who plays vendors of course, as well. And I’m pulling up out in Michelle’s honor from Japanese breakfast place, a jazz master. I’ve just, that was one that was one of the most boneheaded things I’ve ever said in my life. Wow. I apologize to women. Oh, I’m never gonna forgive myself for saying that

Andrew: [01:07:34] you see, normally I would like take the jump and be like, ha ha.

Now I can make fun of you. I’m just going to let that one stand on its own.

Emily: [01:07:42] I could cry. I was stuffed. See, and you know what guys who say that that’s how dumb you sound dumb. I just was.

Andrew: [01:07:54] So one artist that I really thought was going to be on the list. And I’m second guessing is Phoebe Bridgers.

Emily: [01:08:01] She’s got the dental electros

Andrew: [01:08:04] and

Emily: [01:08:06] no, she’ll give it up.

That, that, that D that baritone is like her signature guitar, but

Andrew: [01:08:12] she also does play a lot of fenders. And so I was like, well, maybe, I don’t know. We’ll see.

Emily: [01:08:17] So does Lucy Degas, she plays, um, actually I’ve seen her with Gibson’s, but most recently I’ve seen her with a black on black tele deluxe.

Andrew: [01:08:27] Ooh, that’s a good luck.

Emily: [01:08:29] Yeah, it does. It’s very sleek. And isn’t that? I think that’s what the guy from Japandroids plays too. Do you know them

Andrew: [01:08:39] from home

Emily: [01:08:39] Japan? Japandroids. Oh, yeah, he plays a T plays a tele deluxe, but it’s not black on black. Did you like hardcore music and you’d have a listen to Japandroids.

Andrew: [01:08:51] There’s a lot of music out there.

All right.

Emily: [01:08:55] You need to listen to Japandroids. I, um,

I recommend, uh, there’s second celebration rock. That’s the record I recommend from them, but I recommend listening to it only when you’re in a very emotionally safe place, because it will give you like, almost more emotions than a person should be allowed to have at once. It’s hardcore.

Andrew: [01:09:21] The bio says rock duo, not hardcore.

Emily: [01:09:26] Okay. Okay. Okay. Open, open up a Japandroids on, on YouTube really quickly.

Andrew: [01:09:35] Alright.

Emily: [01:09:35] I’ll just, I’ll just mute the data if I can hear it.

Andrew: [01:09:43] And what song am I looking for?

Emily: [01:09:45] Uh, the house that had been built is probably their best song. It makes me very sad and fire’s highway is a good one too. And so is the night of wine and roses.

Andrew: [01:09:59] All right. Give me just a second here. Okay. Alright, here we go. The house that heaven built.

Emily: [01:10:21] Are you watching a commercial?

Andrew: [01:10:23] No, I was just listening to it. I just like clicked in the middle of the song. I think I caught like the back half

Emily: [01:10:28] of it.

Oh,

Andrew: [01:10:32] gosh.

Emily: [01:10:35] Sorry. What was your thought on it?

Andrew: [01:10:38] Uh, I mean, it’s, it’s like rock, but this isn’t hardcore.

Emily: [01:10:42] This is okay. This is better than par. You’re right. I just thought

Andrew: [01:10:45] that would help. Definitely. I dig the sound. I’m not going to lie. I actually really liked that, but it’s not hardcore. There’s we’re in different realms here.

So my defense, I refuse to be shamed for not knowing this band.

Emily: [01:10:59] Okay. But they’re very good.

Andrew: [01:11:02] I really liked the 15 seconds I just listened to. And I’ll definitely be coming back to listen to this later in the week. Actually. I think that’s going to be the band listen through this week.

Emily: [01:11:11] Yeah, they’re very good.

And they’re really great live and, uh, Once I saw them at the Neptune and Craig van from the whole study opened up shortest women’s restroom line I’ve ever seen at a show. And I saw the hold steady with the drive by truckers. So that’s but I remember like guys kept trying to like stage dive and two guys on successfully tried to take their stage does, and it turned into Swan dives, and then the van kind of stopped.

So if somebody jumps off the stage, you’re supposed to catch them just peace safe. Cause I had to stop between songs when someone would have a failed, uh, Stage dive to make sure nobody,

Andrew: [01:11:54] everyone gets out of the way, like, Hey, are there any loose teeth on the ground? We should be

Emily: [01:11:58] collecting. She still got his shoes.

Huh. And then the next person to try to stage dive was maybe the bravest woman I’ve ever seen. Cause after you watched two failures like that, you think maybe not. The best idea. And man, they caught her and she was just this pumping had the biggest smile on her face. And I was like, I want that energy all the time.

Andrew: [01:12:28] No, I much prefer to start at the back. Cause like at a hardcore show, like the folks in the back of the car, but like, yeah, let me, let me, let me give you a knee up under the crowd. Like get you started, then you get pushed towards the stage.

Emily: [01:12:39] Yeah.

Andrew: [01:12:40] That’s

Emily: [01:12:41] that’s a much fuller move.

Andrew: [01:12:43] That’s definitely like it’s safe until you get to the stage and you get dropped over the edge of the barrier.

Um, I’ve definitely, I definitely saw a guy get knocked out cold instantaneously because the security guys were always there to try and catch you. And he went legs first. The security guy got his legs and just swung his back of his head into the barrier. Just. Eyes rolled to the back, like right in front of me.

Like, let’s try like, no, like cow catching just couldn’t do it.

Emily: [01:13:09] Oh, yikes. That’s a note. That’s a note to end it on.

Andrew: [01:13:13] Yeah. So I definitely do so at your own hazard. Um,

Emily: [01:13:19] now that time I think he did it on purpose.

Andrew: [01:13:22] I did it on purpose both times. I feel like I’m being questioned. You

Emily: [01:13:26] are, you’re being doubted.

Andrew: [01:13:30] I I’m not feeling a vote of confidence from you.

I’m

Emily: [01:13:34] just teasing you. I’m just drunk because I’m sunburned.

Andrew: [01:13:38] Well, dude, I got super, so I made sure I got sunburned. I was on vacation and we did not have Ella Vera. And I went to like the corner market and it was like, we sell, we sell a worms for fishing. I’m like, that means it’s going to be expensive if they’ve got it in like this little bottle of elderberry, 15 bucks, it’s like, Oh, ouch.

That almost hurts worse than the sunburn. I didn’t want to spend that much on a bottle of Elevar is going to use like once or twice a year.

Emily: [01:14:07] They probably sell so much of

Andrew: [01:14:09] it. Oh, I’m sure. There’s only one on the shelf. I’m like, Oh, I better grab that real quick. Oh, it’s got led to cane and I’m sure, like, as soon as we left the store, like add time to throw another one out, we got another sucker, got burned.

Emily: [01:14:23] People will see that there’s just one bottle and it’ll make them not second guess buying it because of the price. It’s actually pretty brilliant.

Andrew: [01:14:31] It was a, yeah, there wasn’t a price tag on it. I didn’t find out until I went to go check out and I was like, well, I need it. Here we go. Gosh,

Emily: [01:14:38] that was like buying hand sanitizer in Dallas.

Right. When COVID was starting, like, yeah, like you see one, like, all they have at the gas station is one little bottle, like the one and a half ounce once you’re like, I need that now. That’s fine.

Andrew: [01:14:55] Difference being is like, I’m not remotely upset by this. The small corner market and Podunk town by hustling, like, dude, you know what that hurt for me to pay for, but you guys are doing your jobs, so it’s just smart business.

Emily: [01:15:08] Yeah, that’s fair.

Andrew: [01:15:10] I get mad at that. And if that’s supporting a small little businesses, small town in an area that I like to vacation at my, by all means.

Emily: [01:15:20] Cool. Well, um, it’s going a little late and I had a fairly long day as I’m kind of feeling you did too. So, uh, it was, it was

Andrew: [01:15:30] a day

Emily: [01:15:31] indeed. Today. It was a full day.

I’m not saying it was bad. It was just a full day and I’m a little tired.

Andrew: [01:15:37] Fine. Oh, we’ve

Emily: [01:15:41] well, uh, to everyone listening, please, please, please rate and review on iTunes. It really, really helps us. Uh, if you want to support us financially, we have a Patrion patrion.com/get offsets. And, uh, we have merchant get us@podcasts.com.

Uh, thanks for listening. Thanks for understanding until next time. My name is Emily.

Andrew: [01:16:01] And my name is Andrew

Emily: [01:16:03] goodbye.