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Episode Transcript
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Andrew: Welcome to the get offset podcast. My name is Andrew. Yup. It’s happening. It’s happening. And the person responsible for that playing twice is.
[00:00:26] Emily: Emily. Sorry, I guess there’s in Castro. Like, I don’t know. Sometimes it loops sometimes it does not loop. I cannot figure out the rhyme or reason for that, for that situation.
[00:00:40] But the reason for the clipping is Andrew.
[00:00:43] Andrew: Oh my clipping. Did I get it? I got too excited.
[00:00:46] Emily: Yeah. You got a
[00:00:46] Andrew: little excited. How about now? Is this, is this fine? Is this cool? Um, okay.
[00:00:55] Emily: Wow. Fix it in pre fix it in pre
[00:01:00] Andrew: indeed. I actually hadn’t had any coffee today. I had some like caffeinated water and now I’m having this weird half tea, half Lightsey, half lemon seltzer with no sugar in it.
[00:01:13] Which sounds like you’re kind
[00:01:14] Emily: of vaguely like an Arnold Palmer,
[00:01:17] Andrew: right. But like not awful for you. It’s got five calories for the whole can.
[00:01:24] Emily: Yeah. I have my, um, guitars and caffeine mug today. Nice. Yeah, my allergies are bothering me, so I might have a sneezing fit in the middle of this
[00:01:38] Andrew: episode. Looking forward to it.
[00:01:44] Nope. And now she’s coughing, sneezing or coughing
[00:01:47] Emily: fit. Okay. We’re all dying. We all bring out your
[00:01:52] Andrew: dead.
[00:01:54] Emily: Bring out your
[00:01:54] Andrew: dead, who are not dead yet?
[00:01:57] Emily: Not yet. Not yet. So, uh, last week, what did we even talk about last week? Cause we recorded last week, two weeks ago. Grammy’s Grammy’s yes, yes, yes. Yes,
[00:02:09] Andrew: current events.
[00:02:10] I didn’t get totally flamed. I got a little flames. That’s okay. It’s okay for me to be wrong. I can live with that.
[00:02:16] Emily: Well, you got to listen to that. Did you ever listen to that song by big thief? No, I haven’t yet.
[00:02:20] Andrew: No, I really have no excuse
[00:02:22] Emily: at this point.
[00:02:24] Andrew: I know, I know. I think three different people tag me in it, in the chat and I was like, oh, I’ll come back to that.
[00:02:30] And listen, when I’m like able to check my phone with volume on, uh, because I think we all know how that goes. Like, oh, I’m just gonna check my phone real quick, but I’m not gonna like listen to anything. No. Usually watch Instagram on like. Mute.
[00:02:44] Emily: I’m like,
[00:02:45] Andrew: yeah, I do that a lot. I think I, a lot or guitar videos recently, without sound than I have with sound.
[00:02:53] Emily: Why, why watch them at all?
[00:02:55] Andrew: They’re in my, they’re my feed and the guitars look nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Scouring for an inspiration for this part’s castor build that I want. Oh,
[00:03:07] Emily: right.
[00:03:08] Andrew: Yeah. But I think, uh, there’s some other moving that needs that in first and yeah. We’re, we’re in the middle of the family moving season.
[00:03:15] So yeah, I think my, my place is a wreck right now, but hopefully in a couple of weeks it will no longer be in a wreck, but we’ll also be located in a different part of the house. Yeah, it was a door with a door
[00:03:30] Emily: that was perfectly timed.
[00:03:32] Andrew: That would be why would like a door?
[00:03:37] Emily: So a what’s new with you other than, uh, thinking about moving, you’re moving your office soon
[00:03:43] Andrew: enough. Well, I think I’m experiencing a flare up and yes, my thermometer for, for my grill is orange. Um, that’s actually how I made that purchase decision. Um, I am. I’m smoking 18 pounds of pork butt right
[00:03:58] Emily: now.
[00:03:59] That’s a lot of pork dude. How far into it are you?
[00:04:03] Andrew: I put it on like an hour ago. I’m expecting to take it off right before I go to work tomorrow. Geez. I don’t work till like 10 or 11 or so in the morning. So, you know, that’s, that’s pretty convenient. Hi,
[00:04:17] Emily: Rick. Yeah, that’s good. Andrew says hi, Rick waived. Um, ah, man.
[00:04:26] Yeah, we did last weekend. We did a poor can we just, uh, put it on before we went to bed and it was ready. Uh mid-afternoon
[00:04:34] Andrew: nice. How big?
[00:04:37] Emily: I don’t remember six pounds, but it was cold and rainy. So it took longer than we’d expected it to take. That’s fair. Yeah, we had it at two 25 for a long time. And then we finally have cranked it to two 50 and then it seemed to get out of the stall.
[00:04:53] Andrew: You
[00:04:53] Emily: didn’t wrap it. We wrapped it at one 65, actually. It was probably like one 75. Gotcha. And then we just needed, needed a little help getting that extra. I lost 30 degrees.
[00:05:05] Andrew: Well mine, mine’s gone up about 10 degrees in the last minute we’ve been talking about this just means that, you know, my, my lump of Hickory that’s in there right now just lit.
[00:05:15] Yeah.
[00:05:17] Emily: This barbecue
[00:05:17] Andrew: podcast, this barbecue podcast. And I’ll put it on like half hour, 45 minutes ago. And it was it. Two 45 ish. And just within like 20 minutes to come all the way back down to 200, because it just put 18 pounds of relatively fresh out of the fridge meat on the grill. Yeah, that’ll definitely suck all of that out.
[00:05:39] And especially with the thermometer, not close, but it’s a couple inches away from the meat or the ambient thermometer. Uh, and now it’s a, it’s climbed back up. It’s it’s been somewhere between two 25. It just jumped up to two 40 and now it’s back down to two 35, you know, I’m just going to watch this thing, like a Hawk for, you know, the next day.
[00:05:57] Emily: See, that’s why I like the trigger. I get a notification on my pellets. So low. I get notifications about my temperature of the grill and me work smarter, not harder, work smarter, not harder. That’s my
[00:06:12] Andrew: motto. Well, I am not working. I am playing and I’m having fun.
[00:06:20] Emily: Good for you. Good for you. Uh, do you want to see my, my what’s now?
[00:06:25] Andrew: Yes. Oh, my voice just cracked. I’ve been up for a bit. My voice should be cracking right now.
[00:06:32] Emily: That looks like April fools pedal from Caroline corporation. It’s called the blues, the blues, and it is an excess here. Expensive amplifier. I mean, it’s got volume and it’s got game.
[00:06:48] It’s got stocks. His lawyer and it’s got blues. Doctor
[00:06:55] Andrew: stocks is a pretty pretty up-to-date. That’s pretty up-to-date I like that
[00:07:01] Emily: stocks. Yeah. But, um, I guess there aren’t that many of these in the wild, he, he put them up for sale, like the skateboard ones. Oh, Nope. Can’t can’t get that one. Don’t want to strip the screw, but yeah, I’m really excited about this.
[00:07:17] I also have the, um, fender Mustang micro that I’m going to film a demo of. That’ll probably be out before this video is out.
[00:07:24] Andrew: Nice. Nice. Can we go back to the blues for a second? First of all, I want to point out that it’s not blue. It’s green.
[00:07:29] Emily: Well, it’s like a tube screamer.
[00:07:31] Andrew: That was my second question. Is it a tube screamer or is it something else or tube screamer.
[00:07:37] Emily: Okay.
[00:07:38] Andrew: I don’t know. I have no idea either. I’m just curious.
[00:07:41] Emily: Did you watch the demos and the dark demo of it? It was like, he just discovered Gary Moore. So you see that star, that 32nd band. That was great.
[00:07:53] Andrew: I was like, I’m just sitting here watching. I’m like, okay. Like I get that. He’s just riffing on a pentatonic, but it’s not he’s doing, I think it was
[00:08:02] Emily: Lydian.
[00:08:03] Andrew: Was it
[00:08:04] Emily: okay? I think that was the joke. It’s just, I guess I just like, it’s just those five, these five notes, just calling to me.
[00:08:13] Andrew: I listened to part of it with sound. I admit. But then I was like, I’m just sitting here, like half paying attention, like, oh, he’s like making fun of blues lawyers, but he also sounds good.
[00:08:24] So there’s a, oh, okay. There there’s a 32nd. Hold a note in bend. There we go. Just whale on it.
[00:08:31] Emily: I think it’s really literally hard for Ryan from demos in the dark to play bad. I
[00:08:37] Andrew: mean, yeah, it’s a phenomenal guitar player. So there’s
[00:08:40] Emily: that, he’s one of the best among the demo. People don’t don’t want to get too big of a head
[00:08:46] Andrew: about it.
[00:08:47] Yeah. I was going to say, I feel the need to tap them down a couple of pegs before he gets too excited there. Yeah.
[00:08:53] Emily: Yeah. Yeah. But as I got the Mustang micro, which I’m excited about. My mom actually asked me about this. She wants, she wants one. So it’s so small. It’s um, yeah, for those who are listening, the Mustang micro is a little, um, just a very small device that you plug into your guitars input, Jack.
[00:09:15] And it has a bunch of amp sounds that you don’t need your phone or anything to access. You can connect a Bluetooth device to it. It’s really made for like, um, you can, if you’re doing fender play, especially, you can put your play lessons through it so you can hear it and you can also play with some effects.
[00:09:32] It’s um, it’s gotten great, great feedback from people who’ve purchased it. So, um, I’m interested. I know that knucks does something similar, but you have to use your phone app to, to use it. And this is just literally two buttons
[00:09:47] Andrew: and oh, that reminds me of, um, Vox. I’m assuming they still make them, but little like AC style, like amp and a little dongle situation.
[00:09:59] Yeah.
[00:10:00] Emily: Yeah. My mom was, my mom did ask me about those before I was like, maybe not mom. They
[00:10:05] Andrew: sound fine enough. If you’re traveling, you just need something in a hotel room. Um, yeah, but this
[00:10:11] Emily: is better.
[00:10:12] Andrew: Yeah. I’m going to, I’m going to go out on a limb without even having heard that and say that that is undoubtedly better than the little cheesy Vox thing.
[00:10:22] Emily: Well, like one, you can never like a little, a little speaker, like that is always going to have its own charm, but it’s never going to sound like. Probably what you want it to sound like, unless you just want like that weird lo-fi charm.
[00:10:34] Andrew: No, no, I’m not talking about the one with the speaker. Vox makes one.
[00:10:37] That’s literally just a little dongle where you plug in with a headphone. Oh, I want to say it was like AC 50 or something weird like that. Whereas like, why is the number bigger than the 30? But it’s tiny is what I vaguely remember the back of my head. Now I feel compelled to look this up,
[00:10:54] Emily: uh, amp plug too.
[00:11:03] I don’t know. I don’t, I don’t see it, dude. I don’t, I don’t see something like what you’re describing. Um,
[00:11:12] Andrew: let’s see, here
[00:11:20] it is just the
[00:11:24] AC. 30 guitar slash bass headphone amp, or they’re like 40 bucks.
[00:11:32] Let me make a classic rock version. That’s right. A blues version,
[00:11:36] Emily: clean a metal version,
[00:11:38] Andrew: a base version.
[00:11:42] Emily: It doesn’t have any versatility.
[00:11:43] Andrew: Yeah, no, none whatsoever. It’s just a, you get what you get for 40 bucks and you’re going to get what you get and you’re going to like it. Honestly, it kind of grabbed the metal one.
[00:11:54] Now just, just hear how that’s setting myself up for failure. Right. I fully recognize that, but anyways, I’m going to close out of that before I make an impulse purchase that I really shouldn’t
[00:12:06] Emily: because there’s just, I got a bunch of stuff over here for you. So you better not be making any impulse purchases.
[00:12:13] A hat from string joy. I have a bunch of walrus pedals and I’m the litigator I need to share with you and you need to bring my Benson funds back.
[00:12:22] Andrew: Yeah. I’ve actually, I’ve boxed the Benson fuzz back up to
[00:12:25] Emily: bring back
[00:12:27] Andrew: that it sounds so good. It really hurt my soul to box it back up. And now I’m doing the whole, Hm.
[00:12:33] What can I sell to buy one for myself? Um, you know, we all know that game. We all know that game all too well. And I’m trying to do my best to don’t make impulse purchases on. Cheapish not like the Vox headphone ish.
[00:12:52] Emily: Oh yeah. Save, save up your equity for something that’s good.
[00:12:55] Andrew: Save up and buy, buy, buy nicer by twice.
[00:12:58] It’s so hard because it’s so easy to like, you know, like, oh, that looks like fun. It’s only 60 bucks. I’ll grab that and realizing like I’m $60 behind like a larger purchase.
[00:13:07] Emily: Yeah. Yeah. That is kind of how it, how it ends up, I suppose.
[00:13:12] Andrew: And then you ended up hating it because it’s not as good as the nice stuff and you go to sell it.
[00:13:15] You get like half your money back by the time, you know, fees.
[00:13:19] Emily: Yeah. That’s true. That’s true. It’d be like that sometimes. Yeah. But, um, it was April fools last week.
[00:13:26] Andrew: It was. And thankfully I didn’t have to go into the office that day.
[00:13:35] Emily: Nothing. None of the jokes knocked my socks off. Uh, but I mean, I, I did, I did get this. That was pretty great. Phillipe said this to me. I’d actually, I’d actually ordered one cause I’m like, oh, I want to buy all of the real, all of the real products for, uh, that came out for April fool’s day. Like rare buzzer had, um, made five.
[00:13:59] Of these like anti buffer things that simulate running long cables. Right? So I’ve got one of those cause they were $69 and I thought, nice,
[00:14:12] Andrew: I’ve got plans that I was going to roll out for this year, but I got a little busy with some other stuff this quarter. Uh, and I probably needed more than a quarter to plan it all out, but I’ve definitely got my April fools lined up for next year and it will hopefully be purchasable. As long as I don’t, as long as the legal road bumps, don’t get in my way.
[00:14:34] Emily: Oh yeah. I also bought one of those weird long chips and whammy bars. Oh God. I felt like such a stupid idiot buying that. And to be honest,
[00:14:45] Andrew: Why they’re great.
[00:14:46] Emily: They look stupid. They look cool. They look stupid.
[00:14:54] Andrew: I’ve honestly got a lot of respect for chips in. Um,
[00:14:57] Emily: I like that they actually make the things they’re doing.
[00:15:00] But, um, so yeah, I mean, I can’t imagine myself gigging with that stupid whammy bar, but that would be pretty, let me, I don’t think Jenna would, let me why. Cause it’s stupid.
[00:15:17] Here’s the thing with all that, with all that, like the length means I can’t, every bend is going to be so stupid, subtle, like it’s going to be so subtle is I’m going to be like and I’m just going to like move the, the bars is going to move. And then the actual vibrato system is going to be like, what are you talking about?
[00:15:37] We’re getting no input here. It’s going to, it’s like a long cable run,
[00:15:40] Andrew: but there’s this thing called stage presence.
[00:15:44] Emily: And I have a lot of it without needing
[00:15:50] Andrew: get to the next level. You’ve just got a full commit.
[00:15:53] Emily: Yeah. Um, no. Okay. I don’t have any stage presence. I just, you know, run to the audience during my guitar solos and then fall on the ground and
[00:16:02] Andrew: Angus young needed stage presence.
[00:16:04] More stage presence before he put on the uniform. Yes. Okay. That’s probably fair.
[00:16:13] Emily: Oh, my gosh, can you, I can’t, I gotta, I gotta be honest. Like some part of have, has to a little bit regret that he has to do that. Now. I, you know, that kiss feels the same way. Yeah. Yeah. I forget. There was some, there was some behind the music I was watching from some hair metal band and, uh, they were, they had like, um, Like, uh, crotch rockets, like literally during the song, like sparks would fly out from their crotch area.
[00:16:41] And then one day, I guess there was like a malfunction. The guy got a little bit burned and he went backstage to his band and he said, you know, guys, For music was better. We wouldn’t have to do this shit.
[00:16:55] I applaud that man. Self-awareness
[00:16:59] Andrew: yeah. Yeah. I mean, there’s, I think there’s, there’s a balance to be had. And I think, I definitely think there’s something to be said for the theatrical though, because like prince Prince’s music didn’t need all the theatrical come on, friends, what? It
[00:17:15] Emily: just made it so great.
[00:17:16] No, I’m, I’m, uh, I’m a huge proponent of performers, but like the being a performer is not the same as having like some weird, stupid shtick that’s that doesn’t actually add to the performance. Like I’m not paying hockey
[00:17:31] Andrew: out here adds to the performance.
[00:17:33] Emily: I mean, that’s fine, but a long ass whammy bar. Isn’t isn’t it?
[00:17:38] That, ain’t it, man. I don’t know.
[00:17:40] Andrew: Depends on your audience.
[00:17:44] Emily: What audience would like be like that
[00:17:47] Andrew: stuff. That’s the golden question? Um, probably an audience member comprised of me, um, because I think that, I think it’s pretty cool. I kind of want one. What I really wanted was the, uh, the dinner plate size pics.
[00:18:03] Emily: I did also did not want that. Like there’s so, like, I think the chips and stuff is funny and I actively don’t want any of it.
[00:18:09] Like I like how often do I actively not want something? Like, do not put that in my home? Like, do not hand that to me. I will hand it right back to you. It’s like when someone hands you a flyer on the street and it’s like, here, you throw this away a
[00:18:22] Andrew: quote, Mike was ASCII. Put that thing back where it came from or so help me, God.
[00:18:30] Nope. Monster zinc. Come on
[00:18:34] Emily: a movie. I saw once when I was 14, something
[00:18:37] Andrew: is phenomenal.
[00:18:40] Emily: Yeah. But I don’t watch Pixar movies, like a lot one after the other. Cause I don’t have a kid.
[00:18:46] Andrew: I haven’t even, I watched that one just on my own. Oh dude. That’s good. Mike was asking. Yeah.
[00:18:56] Emily: I liked monster zinc. I just have never had an urge to watch it
[00:18:59] Andrew: again, I think was pretty great.
[00:19:01] Uh, I really do enjoy that one monsters. You was okay. Ish.
[00:19:08] Emily: Okay. Ish.
[00:19:09] Andrew: Wow. I’m not convinced all of the writers for that actually went to college and they just kind of watched some other movies that were written by people who didn’t really go to college either.
[00:19:20] Emily: I mean, writers, writers, not going to college.
[00:19:22] That’s pretty normal, honestly.
[00:19:25] Andrew: Yeah, it is. Or my college experience is very different, but I also
[00:19:29] Emily: went to a small school. Yours is very different than someone who went to a big school too. You know, I couldn’t have boys in my dorm room.
[00:19:37] Andrew: Speaking of college experiences, uh, possibly changing or being different.
[00:19:43] Um, I know. This is a weird tangent, but a lawsuit this week got filed against the department of education for funding, private Christian schools who discriminate against, um, gay and trans with their policies. Yeah. If you take public funding, then you, you shouldn’t, if you take public funding, then you’ve got to like, you know, educate the public and that discriminate against certain, certain groups of people.
[00:20:09] Yeah, that’s fair. And if you want to do that, I mean, you’re a private institution, I suppose you can. That, I mean, I, I, I guess I’ll rephrase it, I suppose you might be able to, but that’s a very, that’s a different chunk of law that, you know, uh, and it was that lawsuit got filed. That made me pretty happy.
[00:20:27] Yeah. I hope they win because I, and if a couple of private universities go down and people lose jobs, It’s a bad business model then. I mean, yeah,
[00:20:37] Emily: that’s kind of the end of it. It’s sort of like a, if you’ll, if you’re going to go out of business because you’d have to pay your employees a living wage and maybe
[00:20:45] Andrew: the business model.
[00:20:48] Yep.
[00:20:48] Emily: Yeah, yeah. Especially the minimum wage keeps up with inflation. It’d be like 33 bucks an hour.
[00:20:55] Andrew: That sounds nice.
[00:20:56] Emily: And we’re only asking for 15.
[00:21:00] Andrew: That also sounds nice. Does anything more?
[00:21:04] Emily: Yeah. Yeah. My first job, do you remember what you made at your first job? Cause I made $5 and 25 cents an hour
[00:21:09] Andrew: tips only.
[00:21:12] Emily: Yeah. I made a 20% commission after I hit a minimum, but one rainy day at the theme park. And you would not hit that minimum for the two week pay
[00:21:19] Andrew: period. Yep. Now, my first job was tips, only bagging groceries at the grocery store on the, on the Vanderberg air force base. So the commissary and the
[00:21:30] Emily: way it works, your first civilian job let’s
[00:21:32] Andrew: let’s hear for a second.
[00:21:33] It was a civilian job. I was eight and in contractor that was allowed to work on the premises,
[00:21:41] Emily: but you weren’t actually getting paid minimum wage.
[00:21:44] Andrew: How’s that? Self-employed. Okay. That’s how, yeah, it was a weird workaround for the pay on that. So I was self-employed and the, it was a handshake deal. If I bag your groceries, you gave me a couple bucks.
[00:21:57] Probably. Sometimes people didn’t, they didn’t have to customers aren’t obligated, but it was just a normal thing in the military world to tip your bagger. And then after that, I got a job at a DVD rental store making $7 and 25 cents an hour.
[00:22:12] Emily: Yeah. That’s that minimum wage popped up. Got up around like what 2008 or nine?
[00:22:18] Something like that. Yeah. So, yeah, that’s when I worked at the library at Belmont and got seven 25 an hour.
[00:22:26] Andrew: Yep. I got my, that, that job of the DVD rental service, 2011. Yeah. Yeah. I remember walking in, cause we had just moved to Germany and I was like, I need a job. So I walked in and I’m like, Hey, can I speak to the manager?
[00:22:42] And they’re like, ah, what is this about? Just have some questions about this place. And the manager came out and like, hi, I would like a job now. I don’t remember exactly how I phrased it by basis said, please hire me. And they’re like, sure, come back tomorrow. We’ll have you fill the paperwork sold. Thanks for asking.
[00:23:01] So easiest job interview ever had.
[00:23:06] Emily: I mean, yeah. Sometimes it just doesn’t matter. Sometimes it’s literally just who shows up for the job.
[00:23:10] Andrew: Yeah. I mean, it was a DVD rental store. I learned how to grab the DV. We always had empty cases out there. And then we had like the flip books with all the DVDs.
[00:23:20] Emily: Did you watch the last blockbuster on Hulu or Netflix?
[00:23:24] Whichever one that’s on. No, you should. Because it’s about that world that you were in a little bit.
[00:23:31] Andrew: Worked part-time on and off for a couple of years after the first four months I
[00:23:37] Emily: got new, a lot of movies. No man. No wonder you seen monsters Inc. So many times.
[00:23:42] Andrew: Yeah. After four months of that job, I got moved to the back desk, which is where the guitars were.
[00:23:47] Cause the whole time you told me about that. Yeah, the whole, uh, half of the point of the store was like, um, it was one of the last stops or usually the last stop for a lot of, uh, military personnel before they went down to one of the stands and we sold these hundred dollars guitars called Sherwood. I have no idea where they remade.
[00:24:05] And I just remember if you played it for about five minutes, the ink. Or whatever dye they use for the fret board. That was definitely not Rosewood, but start leeching on your fingers. But we sold them for like a hundred bucks and like another 50 bucks or a hard case. And people would take them down to, you know, their tent, wherever they’re stationed down range.
[00:24:24] And, uh, I forgot broken. It got broken, no big deal, but that’s, it’s kind of half the point. So that’s worked to the back desk there and they’re like, who can string? Who knows how to string a guitar? I’m like I do. And they’re like, cool. You’re hired. Move back there. So
[00:24:41] Emily: I just found one from a listing that ended on reverb.
[00:24:44] Sure. What acoustic great starter guitar European Scottish based company model S H seven 405. Natural finish. You want to guess how much it sold for
[00:24:54] Andrew: $38?
[00:24:56] Emily: Listen for $79, a $28 of shipping it doesn’t. I don’t know what it sold for though.
[00:25:05] Andrew: Well, that sounds about right.
[00:25:07] Emily: Yeah. Wow. Let’s see if I click on the brand.
[00:25:12] Uh, it’s mostly not. Guitars is just one acoustic guitar. It’s a Sherwood arch top back when the brand was made by Gresh I assume. Hmm. Oh, that’s beautiful actually. Huh? Wow. That’s really beautiful. Shit. Okay. On that note,
[00:25:35] Andrew: on that note, um,
[00:25:39] Emily: just get into the topic
[00:25:42] Andrew: I wanted to thank someone. So unofficial sponsor for the episode.
[00:25:45] So one of the things Sean from Gunn street,
[00:25:48] Emily: oh, I love Sean from Gunn street. So
[00:25:51] Andrew: I got a panic phone call from my dad yesterday. Like before my alarm went off God, and he’s like, I think I broke my base and he just buy a classic vibes, a classic five seventies base, and one with like the black block and lays on the maple fretboard.
[00:26:08] Yup. Great, great basis for the money. Um, I’m not even there 300 bucks. Um, it lists price for the longest time and I think they’re up to like four, four 50, um, which feels about right actually, um, I say, call him. He’s like, I think I burned my base and I’m like, okay, well what’s going on? He’s like, well, I was trying to take the plastic off of the guard.
[00:26:30] And so I wanted to remove the, uh, remove the knobs to finished taking the plastic off and they just wouldn’t come off and I couldn’t understand. So like I tried to force it and then I re after trying to force all three of them, I realized that there’s a set screw. Yeah, the set screw held, edit it. Yeah.
[00:26:50] He completely popped the shaft, like out of the, of the potential amateurs and busted all three of them. So he’s like, what do I do? I don’t have a soldering iron, like, okay. Um, Give me two shakes of rabbit stale. And so I started messaging Sean, like Sean help, what, what, what does, what does he need to do? I I’ve never had a jazz bass.
[00:27:14] Like, I don’t know what I’m looking at is, is the routing on this model wide enough. And he’s like, and so he, he sort of sorted it all out, um, for the details and what my dad would need. And, um, so yeah, my dad ended up ordering the, uh, for the jazz bass with a trouble bleed mud set. Right with CTS pots. And, uh, Sean, does it option for a wireless install where he basically just puts like little, little Phoenix jacks on there, which ironically have a set screw.
[00:27:44] That’s how it hold the wires in. Uh, but yeah, you just take like your pickup leads and you just kind of twist them and they go in a little slot and then there’s a screw that holds down the lead. Oh, nice. Um, and since my dad doesn’t have a solder iron and lives in the middle of nowhere, Wisconsin, um, Then doesn’t know what local guitar shops are available for repairs.
[00:28:04] I was like, just do that. You could do that in 15 minutes. So yeah, a huge shout out to Shawn for taking my messages like early am on, uh, On a Saturday and clearing that all up and making sure that my dad got taken care of.
[00:28:21] Emily: Yeah. You shouldn’t Venmo that man. Some money. Uh,
[00:28:25] Andrew: well, my dad did well. Yeah. My dad was like, my dad was shocked.
[00:28:31] It was like only 50 bucks for the set. Really.
[00:28:34] Emily: That’s amazing. And his prices are like fantastic.
[00:28:38] Andrew: His prices are. I’m not going to say too low, but I’m going to say a really great deal. And I
[00:28:46] Emily: competitive. He is very
[00:28:47] Andrew: competitive primary competitive pricing. My dad appreciated it for sure. Anyways, that’s a unofficial sponsor spot that Sean didn’t ask for.
[00:28:59] And I’m giving him anyways, because I like him.
[00:29:02] Emily: Yeah. So, um, there’s was a couple of things to talk about in this episode, but firstly, I want to talk about that St. Vincent guitar. Did you watch, you watched her performance on SNL last night? Right, man, she was great. She was great. Like she, like what I always really appreciate when someone goes on a show like SNL and treats it like, like they’re playing in an arena or like they’re filming a music video or they just try to do something special and unique with it.
[00:29:29] And she definitely. Brought it like whether or not you like that type of music. I thought the first song was very talking heads, meets prince, and the second song was very Bowie. Um, and I th so I really, I really dug it, the music, um, but the whole, she really took it. Uh, it was a performance and I thought it was really, really cool, but the one thing that guitarists are most excited about.
[00:29:54] She debuted, uh, the newest model of her signature series with Ernie ball music, man.
[00:30:00] Andrew: She, she did absolutely. And I, so I was working last night. I was working on Fox Cairo stuff sitting here and the TVs and the other room. And so like, I watch like a couple of sketches, like, all right, I’m going to go work.
[00:30:15] Let me know when weekend update comes on and let me know when the musical guest comes on and I’ll just go run out there. Watch for a couple minutes and then come back here. It might work. And, um, and I they’re like, oh, they’re like musical guests in who’s St. Vincent, like a great guitar player to go walk together.
[00:30:34] Like, oh, let’s see this guitar. Cause I saw the
[00:30:36] Emily: announcement
[00:30:38] Andrew: and they’re like you said, she was a guitar player. She’s not holding a guitar. I’m like, yeah. I don’t know what to tell you about that one. Guys.
[00:30:46] Emily: I’ve never seen her perform without a guitar.
[00:30:48] Andrew: Well, she had a lap steel next to her, and then she played the lap steel with her microphone.
[00:30:52] That was gnarly.
[00:30:54] Emily: Loved it. It sounded really cool too. At Microsoft, like someone, someone was someone had to have been off stage, like controlling some micro effects, but it was, yeah, really
[00:31:03] Andrew: cool. Cause the end of that ended that first song that they turned on, like a fuzz or something on the microphone.
[00:31:09] Emily: Yeah. It was really neat. Definitely up the saturation on it or something. I
[00:31:13] Andrew: don’t know. Yeah. I don’t know if they’re like there, I don’t know. How that they would have done. There’s like 18 ways you could have done that effect, but no, it sounded great. And then she brought out that guitar for the second song.
[00:31:24] Like there it is
[00:31:25] Emily: found it it’s called it’s called Goldie the hole, the lie that comes in three colors, three colors to start. I’ve just realized, like, I can’t, I’m used to doing three with the kind of like an okay sign, but I’m, I can’t do that anymore because of white supremacists. Apparently
[00:31:40] Andrew: this is how the Europeans
[00:31:41] Emily: count.
[00:31:42] I know, I know. I just, I don’t know why I started doing like three counting. I count sorry with my pinky and I don’t know why. Um, there’s three colors is a gold, a black and a really nice red, like a deep kind of Crimson color. That’s my personal favorite. Uh, three gold foil pickups to kind of match the more vintage-y sound on the new record, uh, reverse headstock.
[00:32:06] So it’s still, it’s still two and two and four, but the fours on the four on the bottom instead of the top, which I actually think makes it look more balanced.
[00:32:16] Andrew: It’s definitely different.
[00:32:18] Emily: I liked, I liked it more. I think it looks more balanced that way. Yeah. And then a new Picard shape. Very angular. I like it.
[00:32:28] I think it looks great.
[00:32:30] Andrew: No, I agree. I think the new model looks great and I think the colors are super moody. Like I definitely appreciate that.
[00:32:37] Emily: There’s definitely a vintage-y vibe. That Velveteen color is my favorite. That’s the red,
[00:32:42] Andrew: although I’ve got to say there, I do have one bone to pick with it. They didn’t make it an orange, like come on guys.
[00:32:53] Emily: So it has brass saddles, which are cool. Yep. Gold foil many humbuckers
[00:33:00] Andrew: let’s look at the canal settles with the gold foil. It’s interesting.
[00:33:04] Emily: Yeah. Pretty, really simple. Um, um, wiring controls, nothing, nothing interesting there really. Um, it was funny. I actually, I actually talked to, was talking to someone from Ernie ball on Friday.
[00:33:21] Cause I was putting in an order for some strings and straps. And we were talking about like, just the quick turnaround between like, like them having to finish this guitar so she could have it for us now. Cause I always forget how quick that turnaround is. It’s like, you know, a month before or something that you’re like, maybe we’ll be on it.
[00:33:41] And then you don’t have a lot of time to be able to confirm it, uh, between, between the confirmation, the announcement and it actually happening as
[00:33:51] Andrew: fast. Yep. I believe it. That’s show business.
[00:33:57] Emily: That’s SNL. It’s like very old school, like get done. And that’s nice because so much of the music industry is like you.
[00:34:04] I like, for example, I recorded a guitar parts for an EAP in the summer of 2019, and I think maybe those songs are going to get released soon.
[00:34:16] Andrew: That’s that’s a long turnaround time.
[00:34:18] Emily: Yeah. Yeah. That is a long turnaround time. That’s an especially long turnaround time, but usually
[00:34:24] Andrew: there’s Taylor swift release in that matter of time,
[00:34:27] Emily: like three, three or four, I don’t know, a lot, a lot.
[00:34:35] And another one was like the pedal movie’s finally coming out on April 30th and I recorded all that stuff like late. I’d probably like true summer after, after Memorial day, last year, I think 2020. But, um, what I really want to talk about was, um, one of the one I’ve watched the movie, I’m not going to talk about it because we’re going to talk about it with, uh, with Dan and Michael from the pedal movie.
[00:35:01] And that episode will be out. Um, that means
[00:35:04] Andrew: I
[00:35:04] Emily: need to watch it. That’d be our first one in may. Yeah. You gotta watch it this week. Um, Okay. It’s two hours and 20 minutes long. Um,
[00:35:13] Andrew: I want to watch it with Melissa. She found she would watch it with me and I think she’ll enjoy it.
[00:35:18] Emily: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think it’s accessible for people who aren’t total nerds about guitar stuff, but, um, they released, uh, kind of an extras clip, uh, on the last day of March, which was women’s history month and they put it on YouTube.
[00:35:35] It’s called. I think where are all the women pedal builders?
[00:35:41] Andrew: That sounds right. I think that, yeah.
[00:35:44] Emily: Yeah. Where are, where are the women builders there?
[00:35:47] Andrew: There was a neat video comment section was atrocious though,
[00:35:51] Emily: right? It started really bad. It didn’t get a lot better, but, uh,
[00:35:57] Andrew: I don’t even know why check the comment sections on YouTube videos anymore because.
[00:36:04] Actually that’s like, I know some of the other like YouTube rabbit holes that I follow, um, like the, the comment sections are usually actually helpful or funny, but for some reason that that gets hard. World comment. Sections are always just absolute flaming hot garbage
[00:36:23] Emily: wait, guitar world wrote about this.
[00:36:25] Andrew: Sorry. I just, I was saying about the guitar world in general.
[00:36:27] Emily: Not that I was like, oh,
[00:36:30] Andrew: no. Like any podcast, any demo artist, any, any guitar related channel? The comment sections are inevitably talk.
[00:36:40] Emily: God. Yeah. I mean, so YouTube.
[00:36:44] Andrew: It’s the, I could have done it better. Why are they doing this? They’re doing it wrong.
[00:36:49] Why do we even care?
[00:36:51] Emily: Well, there’s a lot of things that like, there’s a lot to unpack with the bulk of these comments, like these negative comments. And it’s, I think largely from people who, um, like this content isn’t for you, like, like, we’re not like if you’re eAssist hat, white guy, like who. Like just bias pedals based on what they sound like.
[00:37:13] Like, yeah, you, you know, this is not an attack on you. This, this, this, this content is not an attack on anybody. It’s not an attack on white men to just point out that traditionally white men have been the ones in power. It’s not, it’s not, it’s more like celebrating the women who have been a part of this since the beginning of time.
[00:37:33] The fact that women have always been in the guitar and music instrument industries, and just, haven’t always gotten. The respect they deserve. They haven’t had the opportunities for advancement. I think that’s something that’s often just kind of overlooked is that even when women are working as these shops, even when they’re doing the same work as the men, women have traditionally been more.
[00:37:54] Apt to be passed over for advancement opportunities, because like studies have shown like that, that men are more likely to be promoted based on their potential. And women are only likely to be promoted based on what they’ve done and accomplish. Hmm. So that’s already makes it like, means that men are had a little bit of a headstart because they just have to show, they have potential women have to show that they’d done it before potential
[00:38:23] Andrew: energy versus kinetic energy.
[00:38:25] Yeah.
[00:38:26] Emily: In a, in a way. Yeah. So that’s, that’s one of the things that that’s one, one point, um, and you know, It’s just, it’s very odd that, you know, so many men seem to take it as like an attack on white men and it, it really wasn’t what it was about. Like women should be able to talk about. We should be able to talk about ourselves and without it being seen as an attack on men,
[00:38:53] Andrew: Yeah, but celebrating diversity requires admitting that you’re not the most important and only important, you know, grouping of people.
[00:39:02] Emily: I mean, that’s true. That’s true. But that’s not an attack really. It’s just like a request for some introspection.
[00:39:13] Yeah. I mean,
[00:39:16] Andrew: It feels like an attack when you feel like you’re losing power or whatever, and a certain dynamic where you didn’t really deserve it in the first place.
[00:39:24] Emily: Yeah. Yeah. I think reverb kind of got rid of some of, oh my gosh. Like, okay. In this kind of comment, firstly, I don’t know why this person mentioned color has nothing to do with it.
[00:39:37] And women are less interested in technical stuff. Well, that’s. That’s only true because women aren’t socialized to give a shit about technical stuff. And I talk about this a lot. Like women are like, women are just, aren’t raised to care about technical stuff and that doesn’t
[00:39:52] Andrew: useful construct or something.
[00:39:57] Emily: That is, that is a social construct. And before somebody says like, gender is not a social construct, we’re not saying that gender itself is necessarily a social construct, but like the idea that men care about techie stuff, and women are never going to have an interest in it is just false. And I like women
[00:40:18] Andrew: that position interest in cooking or taking care of children.
[00:40:22] Emily: Yeah, that’s another, that’s another thing. I mean, but then you look at like the celebrity chefs of the world, and so many of them are men. I’m like, well,
[00:40:31] Andrew: that’s only just because they get paid more, they got promoted based on their
[00:40:35] Emily: potential. But back to like women in tech, like women mathematicians at black women, mathematicians at NASA are the like helps get us to the moon.
[00:40:46] John Glenn trusted the by hand. Uh, or was it Neil Armstrong? I forget which one it was, but it was like their, their number, like their math skills were trusted more than the computers at the time, because computers were still really new. Um, what female scientists like Marie Curie, um, ADA Loveless basically invented in like computer coding and stuff.
[00:41:13] Like we’ve always been here. And we’ve always had an interest in it. It’s just that traditionally we are socialized to care less. That’s why there are programs that like Boston U that where women can get their engineering degrees, their masters in engineering, no matter what they majored in, it’s actually designed for people who had to, who were maybe pressured women who are maybe pressured to go into non stem fields in college and were like, you know, I just really want to be a chemical engineer.
[00:41:40] And they’re like, okay, we’ll just get you up to speed a lot faster. And that’s a really cool program, but yeah, it’s kind of, it’s kind of ridiculous. Sure. Yeah. Um, so that, that was, yeah, it was kind of an adventure. Another one was people saying that everyone has had a bad experience at big chain guitar stores regardless of women.
[00:42:05] And I just got to say again, like the ex the badness of the experience is different and worse. Like maybe. Maybe men are, you know, feel like they get kind of ignored and talked down to a little bit here and there. And. Women get hit on women, get dismissed when they demonstrate that they know what they’re talking about.
[00:42:28] Women get second guessed. Like how many times have you gone into a guitar story, Andrew and the person checking you out at the register asked you if, if you’re sure that these are, these are the cables or pics or whatever that your partner wanted. Like, are you sure these are the cables he wants? Like cause women get that right?
[00:42:50] Andrew: Sure. Sure, sure. So
[00:42:55] it’s kind of, I mean, it’s similar to the conversation around conversations around privilege and I’m like, well, white people have a heart too, and it’s like, no one asked you for starters. So shut up and. That’s so tone deaf. It makes me angry. Um, I dunno,
[00:43:12] Emily: it’s not a con one. It’s not a competition. And two, I think you just had to realize that like, there are levels of bad and there are levels of bad experiences.
[00:43:22] Andrew: Yeah. I mean, I think my takeaway from that is, you know, it’s okay to listen to someone else say like, or describe like a negative experience that they’ve had and not follow it up with like, oh, like, oh, I’ve also had something sort of similar. Not really like, like if someone’s like, oh, I just got, I have stage four cancer.
[00:43:40] And that’s like, there there’s like telling you like, oh, well I had the chicken pox. I was a kid. So, you know, I, I get it. Yes. I also have a bad too, like, come on, shut up a cancer. Like it’s,
[00:43:51] Emily: I’ve literally broken up friendships based. Like when people have said that kind of crap to me, like trying to one up my, my problem.
[00:44:00] Like, I don’t, that’s not, this is not how friends
[00:44:03] Andrew: act. Sure. I mean, there’s, there’s definitely like a line between like, Trying to be like, oh, I understand. Here’s something that’s not really entirely related that I’m going to use to try and bridge that gap versus like, oh, like I actually have something that’s really similar.
[00:44:15] And, you know, in like, in a sense of like, I think the difference is like, complaining about like yourself as well, when someone’s trying to like, share versus like trying to bridge that gap with empathy. There’s
[00:44:26] Emily: a difference it’s commiserating, I think is kind of the word you’re looking for.
[00:44:30] Andrew: Sure. Yeah. Th there’s, there’s kind of being invited into like a shared experience sort of, and I think that that’s different, but that’s not the same thing as like, like, I dunno, like someone was rude to me when I tried to like, ask to play like the Martin that was listed for like $8,600, like okay, sure,
[00:44:52] bro.
[00:44:54] Emily: Yeah. It’s kind of like, um, if you say, well, all geared to mowers, get nasty comments, like. Do all gear demos, like get rape threats. Cause I don’t really think so.
[00:45:08] Andrew: Yeah.
[00:45:10] Emily: I don’t know. It’s it’s a it’s it’s like kind of thing it’s like, oh yeah, yeah, sure. People are really mean to everyone who does guitar demos, for sure.
[00:45:18] For sure. But the dudes nobody’s threatening to rape the guys.
[00:45:24] Andrew: By and large. That is, that is correct.
[00:45:28] Emily: At least not nearly as often.
[00:45:30] Andrew: At least not nearly as often as the thing is of more fair statement, but I mean, even if, even if the comparison is completely level, like if someone says, oh, this is my experience, you’re like, okay, well, knock it off.
[00:45:41] Like, I dunno.
[00:45:43] Emily: It’s, it’s just, it’s not helpful discourse at all. And I think, and I think that a lot of people kind of miss the point of a video, like what reverb did, like what river wasn’t trying to do, like in. Cause. Cause what I assume, I assume river, wasn’t trying to trash white guys that seems like it wouldn’t be beneficial
[00:46:04] Andrew: to them.
[00:46:04] That’s like 90% of their target market. But kidding. I’m kidding. I’m kidding. I don’t know if you were
[00:46:11] Emily: kidding, dude.
[00:46:14] Andrew: I was saying a very high number to point out the fact that people pretend that that’s the way the world
[00:46:19] Emily: works. I mean, I was going to say the film was made by two white guys, but no. Okay.
[00:46:32] Stop interrupting me.
[00:46:36] That’s very rude.
[00:46:39] So, I mean, the movie was made by two white guys. I think that the point of like videos, like this is more, the target audience is more like women. And the target audience is, you know, underrepresented groups. And the idea is like, you put out videos like this, and then the women who are genuinely wondering, where are the other women?
[00:47:01] Where, where are the other people in my community who are like me? They get their answer. Like, oh my God, they’re here. They’re there. They’re everywhere, which is neat. Um, and then it’s also for, for those says hat, white guys, especially. Maybe to maybe it’s opportunity to be a little introspective and be like, oh, wow.
[00:47:22] I didn’t know that like Fran designed one of the most, a woman designed one of the most famous fuzz pedals that she check made like, oh, I didn’t, I didn’t realize that my favorite guitar pedal brand Earthquaker is run by a woman. And that’s, that’s the cool that’s that’s that’s cool. Like those are the kind of the two audiences for.
[00:47:45] For this like underrepresented groups are the primary audience, probably because I know that when I create content, because I’m a professional content creator, not necessarily just geared demos. I do a lot of writing. I always ask myself, who’s the primary audience of this piece. Who am I mostly speaking to?
[00:48:01] Like if I write an article about how to grow hot dog, which is a real thing I’ve read in the audience, isn’t. People who have grilled hot dogs before. Like the audience is like the absolute beginner with a girl who’s never touched a girl before and just wants to make sure they’re doing hot dogs correctly.
[00:48:19] Right. But if I write an article about like, um, three unique ways to, um, smoke a brisket, then the audience is probably someone who’s smoked a brisket before and is just looking for a new way to do it. For one reason or another, and then there’s always secondary audiences, but I think, and so I think that like, and I, I feel like we say this a lot, like it’s okay for a piece of content to not be for you.
[00:48:48] It’s okay. Not everything has to be for you. And I know that’s hard a little bit, cause you want, you know, to be able to be that primary audience as much as possible, but. But
[00:48:58] Andrew: then that requires like acknowledging that the world doesn’t revolve around you and everything isn’t meant for you.
[00:49:04] Emily: Yeah. And I think it’s kind of hard for, for, for everybody and just something you need to get practice.
[00:49:10] Andrew: Yeah. I think it’s difficult for one particular demographic, especially, uh,
[00:49:14] Emily: yeah. I mean, it’s, it’s hard for, it’s hard for them. It’s like all these
[00:49:17] Andrew: like white Christian Midwestern parents are like, oh my God, like I’ll never listen. Let, let my kids listen a little, not sex ever again. After this week, I’m like, Do you really think that he wrote that song and like, did that music video for your kids?
[00:49:31] No.
[00:49:33] Emily: No, come on. That’s not for children.
[00:49:35] Andrew: Oh. But his other song, like he must’ve known as target. I’m like, do you know what old town road is had? Did you read all the lyrics before letting your middle schooler like memorize
[00:49:45] Emily: them? No, X’s, it’s literally about a horse.
[00:49:53] Andrew: Okay. That’s not where I was going with that. Um, anyways,
[00:50:01] Emily: the point is I have not, I have not read the lyrics to any of these songs,
[00:50:05] Andrew: have it. And they’re like, they just hear the hook and like, oh, okay. That sounds catchy. It’s like popping country and
[00:50:10] Emily: whatever gore or when she did that whole like warning label thing or whatever, what she wanted was to, for every record store to have.
[00:50:19] The lyrics on hand for every CD or record they sold in their store. And that’s a lot of papers
[00:50:27] Andrew: that is a lot of paper. I don’t know that very much strikes me as a, wait a minute. The music producers aren’t parenting my children for me. Like,
[00:50:37] Emily: yeah. What I really talk about this last week. Did we talk about like that.
[00:50:44] Andrew: People being upset about the Grammys for essentially the same reason. Like it’s not family friendly, like it’s the Grammys,
[00:50:50] Emily: but like that FCC thing with the, uh, with tipper gore, the parents committee or whatever, and John Denver and Frank Zappa and Dee Snider, like she, this started because she bought her young daughter a prince record.
[00:51:05] The soundtrack for one, a rated R movie to a performer whose two previous records were called one controversy and the other one was dirty mind. What makes you think this is for children? What makes you think this is for children? Nothing. No part of that is for children.
[00:51:30] Andrew: Right. And of course then the follow-up conversations on last X is that, um, video this week, it was like, this is an attack on Christianity.
[00:51:39] I’m like, dude, the whole thing is about how Christianity hurt this. Dude. Have a moment to just hear, listen.
[00:51:51] It’s all too predictable that does make, does get me riled up.
[00:52:00] Emily: I still think old town road is literally about a horse.
[00:52:06] Andrew: Yes. But there’s also like, isn’t there like a reference. There’s a reference to cocaine in there. I think somewhere as well.
[00:52:14] Emily: Are you thinking, are you sure?
[00:52:16] Andrew: Let’s see. I know there’s something that
[00:52:20] Emily: I’m reading it. And I don’t see. Maybe it’s just a different version.
[00:52:26] Andrew: No cheated on my baby. You can go and ask her.
[00:52:28] So, you know, cheating bull riding and boobies cowboy hat from Gucci, those are lyrics
[00:52:37] Emily: frees gay. Like why is it thinking about doesn’t it that actually makes it less sexual for me for some reason, but it’s kind of like how the gear talk prays. Sorry. It’s kind of like the gear talk, praise and worship group changed their name for April fools.
[00:52:55] And apparently the entire month of April to gear talk, WAP, worship Andres and everyone, like they got set like over 700 people left that
[00:53:06] Andrew: no, like 3000 bites a day. I checked this morning at 3000 people, but
[00:53:12] Emily: yeah, they changed the acronym from. P and w to WAP
[00:53:21] and, uh, people got very mad.
[00:53:28] I’m like, how am I in this group? Even I don’t super duper remember joining it. Don’t get to answer questions to join this group. Probably.
[00:53:39] Andrew: Oh, my God, it was people probably weren’t upset about the old town road lyrics, even if they were paying attention because it’s male centric, sexuality, and that’s usually just normalizing.
[00:53:51] Okay. And boys be boys, but, uh, yeah. So people got all upset. If they’re just getting all upset about these things, I’m like, it’s not for you. Or just listen, maybe it is like, uh, this is your chance to like, listen to what other people have to say about you, what you do. It’s not an assault on you. It’s just other people’s perspective.
[00:54:12] It’s okay. For there to be more than one perspective than just this very white centric. Western evangelicalism.
[00:54:18] Emily: Yeah. Excellent. That’s a lot coming from someone who grew up in that world.
[00:54:24] Andrew: Yeah. Yeah, no, I know. So we’re recording this on Easter. I’m definitely like really sitting on that pretty heavy. Okay.
[00:54:31] Um, but we also do have Easter services sit there, here shortly. Um, this is a lot of the things kind of giving a small window into all of the things that are kind of running in the back of my head. I don’t know if I have anything more to say on the topic though. Yeah.
[00:54:50] Emily: Yeah. This is more like a, this episode was more like a couple of different topics, so that’s all good.
[00:54:54] That’s all fine. I’m fine with that. Yeah. But I’m excited to show off some of the things I’m getting on loan this week, as far as demos go. So totally. I hope if you’re listening that you, yeah. You check out the demo channel. It’s not just a. I think it’s just going to be the Mustang micro amp this week.
[00:55:15] I’m definitely going to be posting at least pictures of some other things I’m going to be working on. Um, that I’m really, really, really excited about it. I don’t even know if you know exactly everything I’m getting, unless you’ve really been paying attention to these.
[00:55:26] Andrew: I haven’t no, I’ve been relatively checked out given, given, moving season.
[00:55:31] So
[00:55:33] Emily: cool. Well, um, I guess on that note, I just want to end this with it’s. Okay. If a piece of content isn’t for you and maybe you think about like, who is the intended audience for this before you should on it.
[00:55:45] Andrew: Agreed. All right. Well, thank you for
[00:55:51] Emily: listening. Thanks for watching. Thanks for understanding. Is Andrew.
[00:55:56] Hi, my name is Emily. Bye .
