Get Offset Episode 130: Andrew Has Some Secrets

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Emily: It’s not gonna work this time. Of course

[00:00:04] Andrew: not.

[00:00:04] Emily: Why would it, well, you know, cause it worked last time.

[00:00:08] Andrew: Let’s play it on your plate, on the guitar then

[00:00:11] Emily: now

[00:00:20] it’s my turn.

[00:00:24] Welcome to get off set. My name is Emily. And my name is Andrew, and I’m here with a borrowed friend today. I have the Eva young signature. I’ve been as guitar. It is greener than I expected,

[00:00:40] Andrew: but it does have orange flakes in the sparkle.

[00:00:43] Emily: Joseph? No, it doesn’t

[00:00:47] Andrew: just like, uh, like mixed in just a little bit.

[00:00:49] Yeah.

[00:00:51] Emily: We’ll see how many, I mean, I see something that’s kind of goldish perhaps.

[00:00:57] Andrew: Okay. The one on the Nam floor that I saw last year, two years, five years ago at Nam. Um, there’s definitely like a S like not a lot, but like one, one or two flex for like every few square inches, like just enough to be like, oh, all right.

[00:01:16] All right.

[00:01:18] Emily: Yeah. There’s gold. I would call that gold personally.

[00:01:22] Andrew: Well, personally, I’m offended.

[00:01:24] Emily: This is guitars in a very weird tuning. It’s F a C GB.

[00:01:32] Andrew: Nice. I think so. Well, it’s, it’s meant to open tuning and tapping and stuff.

[00:01:39] Emily: I’m trying to sign, I’m going to try to, if I wanted to leave it at this tuning for the demo I inevitably do, or if I. Do myself a favor and

[00:01:50] Andrew: keep it in the tuning. And it’ll be fun.

[00:01:54] Emily: I can’t tap though. Cause I, I grow these, these nails out long so I can do chicken picking, you know,

[00:02:01] Andrew: it’s, it’s just, it’s a temporary sacrifice.

[00:02:03] You’re gonna have to make.

[00:02:13] Emily: You can blink a tree on this. You can play Gundry on anything. I’m going to put that,

[00:02:19] Andrew: but does a gent probably

[00:02:23] Emily: I don’t, I don’t, I still don’t really know what Jen says.

[00:02:29] Andrew: Well then do we have a story for you?

[00:02:33] Emily: Oh, Jen. That’s all I got. That’s all I

[00:02:38] Andrew: got, gentlemen, I just

[00:02:40] Emily: hit record didn’t I sure did.

[00:02:43] Andrew: I know it’s it’s it’s too late to unstart.

[00:02:46] Yeah. John started this well, welcome to the show, everyone. Thank you for joining us. This is a riveting discussion of green guitars.

[00:02:58] Emily: It’s the only one I have. That’s green. It’s the only one between, oh no, you have a green one right there. Okay. I see it. I’m a other way. Yeah, there you go. Yeah.

[00:03:10] Andrew: I feel like I’m playing the weatherman.

[00:03:12] Emily: And then over here we have, the, your screen is fake and mine is

[00:03:17] Andrew: well defines fake because in a true sense that it’s real. Like the guitars are literally right here. Just it’s a better camera angle. So I just, instead of moving my desk,

[00:03:29] Emily: which is good, I’m sorry. I’m just realizing that nobody’s going to be able to see the green guitar that’s cause it’s going to be off

[00:03:33] Andrew: screen.

[00:03:34] It’s going to be off screen. Uh, but instead of moving the desk, I’ve just, you know, virtually moved the wall. So in a truer sense, it’s real. It’s not Photoshop. No, it’s not. It’s not Photoshop. That was the picture I took with my phone.

[00:03:51] Emily: Very, very, oh, oh my. You’re uh,

[00:03:57] Andrew: yup. Huh? How about it? Did I have like something on my nose or spinach in my teeth?

[00:04:04] Thirst Spanish, my teeth. He wouldn’t be able to tell

[00:04:07] Emily: you got a hole in your liver right there. Now it’s in your lung, your right lung.

[00:04:12] Andrew: Okay. Oh, whoa.

[00:04:16] Emily: Well, that’s Spindrift is a, that

[00:04:20] Andrew: is Spindrift right there. Oh my God. Let’s take a look. See

[00:04:26] Emily: right through it.

[00:04:27] Andrew: Spindrift

[00:04:28] Emily: lime. See all the rocket music straps that Haley made you,

[00:04:32] Andrew: right?

[00:04:33] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The other funny thing is the I, the, the jazz cup strap, she sent me, we were going to do a giveaway. I’m like. Or could I just buy it for me? I can, can we make another one for like sort this out later? Cause I, it sys I kept it. Nice.

[00:04:57] Emily: Nice, nice. It’s a great strap. Yeah, Sam Haley is a great human.

[00:05:04] Andrew: Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Well, aside from the Eve that young what’s new with

[00:05:10] Emily: you. Oh God. Well, I got a lot of stuff. Um, I have that anti buffer from rare buzz. Nice. I have on my demo bench, the sugar cube from Alexander pedals. I’m actually really excited about that one. Um, I have the awful waffle from alchemy audio, which I just demoed.

[00:05:33] I really sad as a hotcake crowler, hotcake, uh, clown, the megabyte. And I have this prototype from recovery effects last weekend. They had little. Uh, sale. They were selling something called instrument one. And I snagged one when, cause I was in the waiting room for after my COVID shot and, uh, I was free. So I have, it’s an instrument.

[00:06:07] It’s a droney thing. I was holding it upside down. There it is. I’m excited. I have no idea what the knobs do. But I’m excited to learn. Recovery affects

[00:06:21] Andrew: Obama’s favorite

[00:06:23] Emily: recovery effects,

[00:06:25] Andrew: drones.

[00:06:26] Emily: Oh,

[00:06:34] about drone strikes.

[00:06:41] I’d be like, what the hell does the knobs do?

[00:06:47] Andrew: No, that that’s super cool. Yeah. I feel like that’s the sort of thing you would just want to like, you know, pick up your inebriation of choice. Oh, that’s not the right thing. And kind of turn on the drone and

[00:07:04] Emily: beverage of choice.

[00:07:06] Andrew: Uh, I didn’t limit it to beverage.

[00:07:08] I’m just say like, and inebriation of choice and just plug the drone into several layers of everything and go nuts with it for a night. I think that sounds exciting. That sounds like my idea of a good time.

[00:07:21] Emily: I can never get enough torque with this little screwdriver

[00:07:24] Andrew: and F what torque I heard twerk and I was very confused.

[00:07:31] Emily: Yeah. Let me dang down, flip it in torque

[00:07:34] Andrew: versus, yeah, it takes several screwdrivers before I start doing that.

[00:07:41] Emily: And, uh, I assume you, you mean the beverage kind? Yes. We’re themed this episode. I did my, um, my dry March, but that’s been over. That’s been over for a while now, but 13 days it was easier than I expected it to be.

[00:08:01] Yeah, so, uh, whatever it was fine, I don’t feel the need to do it again immediately.

[00:08:08] Andrew: Sure. It’s good to, uh, to take breaks and you know, self-care, it’s important. Can only put yourself through so much

[00:08:18] Emily: before my complexion did not change. I did not lose weight. Nothing. Nothing. Totally a good

[00:08:23] Andrew: sign. That it wasn’t a problem before.

[00:08:25] Emily: Yeah, that’s actually pretty true. Yeah. No, it was good. It was good. We had my, um, my brother and my sister-in-law my niece over last night, we made red labs on the trigger. Cause it’s a barbecue podcast though. I heard that. Maybe you’re, uh, you’re not going to feel food triggers quite as much. I hope after.

[00:08:48] Last weekend.

[00:08:51] Andrew: I need to replace my thermometers, what I need to do apparently. Cause my, uh, I did a couple of port shoulders of the intent of bringing them into work, which I did do without doing a full taste test. Um, And yeah, they cooked really fast. I was really confused like, oh, well, I mean, the thermometer says this, so, I mean, I’m sure it’s fine.

[00:09:14] Yeah, no, it came out dry. I I’ve gone back since it checked the thermometer. I’m like, oh, that was reading like 30 or 40 degrees under what it was actually. Oh, I don’t know how it got screwed up. It’s screwed up. And so I was, when I thought I was like, maybe peaking around two 50 to 60, I was pushing 300 for extended periods of time when you really should be like at two 25 to no more than two

[00:09:45] Emily: 50.

[00:09:46] Yeah. Two 50 is what we turned it up to at the end when we need to nudge. But

[00:09:52] Andrew: yeah, it’s a, it was slightly embarrassing. Cause then my. Uh, someone else I worked with rolled up with, uh, with the brisket they had done in their Trager.

[00:10:05] Emily: And

[00:10:06] Andrew: it wasn’t as good as the brisket that I did for myself a couple months ago, but it was way better than what I had done when I screwed up.

[00:10:17] Emily: I think it was pork and out of brisket though. Sure. I made the mistake of trying, thinking about buying brisket, um, on Passover weekend. And the only thing that was in the grocery store was like the huge, the huge cats like, wow, this is a, a $100 cut of meat. I’m like, ah, I only

[00:10:36] Andrew: want to start with that 13 pounds

[00:10:39] Emily: more than that.

[00:10:40] It was more than it was like, you need to free some, and then you will run out of room in your freezer and willing to give it to neighbors. It was a lot. And a

[00:10:48] Andrew: lot of girls don’t have room for something that big either nice

[00:10:55] Emily: or

[00:10:55] Andrew: does well, then, you know what? You should do that like the 20 pound brisket and then share.

[00:11:01] Emily: Yeah. Yeah, I know. But it’s a hundred dollars.

[00:11:04] Andrew: Yeah.

[00:11:08] And then you share

[00:11:10] Emily: a hundred dollars. Someone else is going to need to provide the size.

[00:11:17] It’s like 11:00 AM, but I’m nearing the point where I’m so hungry. I’m like thinking about going upstairs and grabbing potato salad. That’s left over from last night and does eating it. He will feel weird if I just had a tub of potato salad that I was eating from. I

[00:11:30] Andrew: mean, it, what you should do is you should do that, but you should also just say that it’s Manet’s when I ask for thematic emphasis, um, Speaking of sides though, like, so I screwed up the pork, but I did the best round of smoked pineapple.

[00:11:45] I’ve done to date. Nice. So, you know, it, even though I did a couple of pineapples and I adjusted my, um, my ratios again for the spice rub, uh, which is cayenne pepper, Rica cinnamon and brown sugar, um, dial back the, the cinnamon and the cayenne a bit, and then up the brown sugar and throwing the smoker. Um, after I was done with a pork.

[00:12:10] Uh, so as though the port took it off and that was on Hickory, but the Hickory had all burned up at that point. So I was throwing some apple, some apple wood chunks and burned that out. And I added a couple of cans of PBR to the, to the water can nice of the water pan underneath with all the pork drippings.

[00:12:26] And yeah, that flavor came out nice. I was very proud of that. And I think that made up for the self embarrassment in the offense.

[00:12:38] Emily: See, I don’t, I don’t want to embarrass myself with coworkers cause none of my coworkers live in Seattle. I don’t know who geographically is the closest, but it actually might be, uh, it might be the people in LA.

[00:12:54] It might geographically be the closest cause I don’t know how Utah pans out from here on, uh, Distance perspective. Is it Utah or Colorado? I don’t know. They’re all over a couple in the Midwest. A couple of Nashville, one in New York, Colorado, someone like that,

[00:13:11] Andrew: something, something like that

[00:13:12] Emily: summit, something like that.

[00:13:16] Yeah, no, um, yeah, this is actually, uh, Oh, we’ve been talking for a while, but we were doing back to backs because, um, we need to, uh, hold on to an episode for, uh, the first week in may that we can’t really talk about yet, but it’s not

[00:13:32] Andrew: secret episode. Yes. We can’t speak about.

[00:13:37] Emily: Because because of embargoes buyer

[00:13:41] Andrew: goes, it’s always exciting to get the email that says, if you share this it’s illegal, Mike.

[00:13:46] Oh, all right, here we go.

[00:13:47] Emily: Here we go. I don’t think it’s illegal. It’s just like, you’re never gonna be able to do it.

[00:13:51] Andrew: No, the, I read the email. It said illegal several times.

[00:13:55] Emily: It says illegal, but it’s like Sue

[00:13:58] Andrew: me a day. Yeah.

[00:14:00] Emily: Is more about like litigation and breaking contracts. And it is about, um, you know, The police coming and knocking on your door and taking you away in cuffs.

[00:14:10] It’s it’s like we will find you. Yeah. Um, I have a couple of NDAs and I know that you do too, and I’m not, not, not curious at all to find out what would happen if I broke them.

[00:14:24] Andrew: I am not in any rush to sort

[00:14:26] Emily: that out. I’m scared enough when I’m like part of a demo release, like a scheduled release for anything.

[00:14:32] And then like, it’s like the time I never want to be the first person to publish. So I’m like always like, has Ryan from demos in the dark posted yet? Cause he’s usually very, very good about being like, Exactly on time. Meanwhile, some, some folks are very early.

[00:14:49] Andrew: Oh yeah, no, I like the nightmare is like, okay, so it’s out next Tuesday.

[00:14:52] So I’m going to go ahead and schedule the YouTube demo release, like so premiere that’s time,

[00:14:57] Emily: and then you schedule a premiere. It pops up. And everyone gets a notification that you scheduled a premiere. So I can’t, if I want to do a premiere for a new release, I can’t schedule it at all. I have to just wait.

[00:15:08] Sure, sure,

[00:15:09] Andrew: sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. Sure. Like the idea is like, you know, you schedule whatever content that’s going to be debuted. And then like you get a text like an hour after it’s due saying take this down nine years. You’re a week early. It was the wrong Tuesday or whatever. And yeah, that sounds

[00:15:25] Emily: not fun.

[00:15:26] I had a moment where I divulged information. I wasn’t supposed to divulge in something and I was like, I didn’t know. That was secret. I’m so sorry. I felt so bad. I can’t tell you what it was, but, uh, it happened a while ago and I was like shy. Uh, I felt bad about that one.

[00:15:47] Andrew: It does crack me up. Uh, I get like inbox messages, uh, From people who listened to the show, it was like, Hey, you must know something about this.

[00:15:56] Tell me I’m like, I can’t, I’m so sorry, but I can’t.

[00:16:02] Emily: Yeah.

[00:16:04] Andrew: I can’t tell you if I, I can’t even acknowledge if I know anything about it, because like, so, you know, if you, if you messaged me and asked the answer’s going to be, I don’t know if I did. I couldn’t tell you. Yeah,

[00:16:14] Emily: I’ve done. I’ve I’ve done that one before, like, oh, you know, I’m not going to cause it’s like, I can’t confirm or deny like that.

[00:16:24] That means, yeah, I know something like, everyone feels like that means, you know, something, but oh yeah. Sometimes, sometimes like, so at this point I will just say, like, I don’t know anything about that. Sorry. Like I I’m going to have to lie because to not lie would be to divulge and I don’t want to do that.

[00:16:42] Or I just won’t respond always not also an option, you know, I, um, yeah, I’m not going to jinx. I was about to say something, but I don’t want to jinx it.

[00:16:55] I don’t have any, um, surprises coming up that I really know about at the moment. So, uh, so sad. But what

[00:17:04] Andrew: about that one thing from that one? We

[00:17:06] Emily: don’t talk about that. I don’t know any surprises right now, which is

[00:17:12] Andrew: sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

[00:17:16] Emily: yeah. Sometimes I know things is usually adult, but, um, No, I’m, uh, I was kind of working through what I have and what I’ve already showed off.

[00:17:25] So, um, as far as the demo stuff goes there, there are other secrets I know for other facets of the industry, but we both, we both have secrets in our pocket right now, though, for the cause we can not talk about it. There

[00:17:41] Andrew: is that

[00:17:43] Emily: okay? That’s I feel like this is about headlights hit its

[00:17:46] Andrew: limit. Is it? Oh, it was just about to drop the whole, like, I actually know something that you don’t, but I can’t tell you,

[00:17:53] Emily: but I never know if you’re serious and then sometimes you are serious and you tell me the thing and I’m like, I know that we share an inbox.

[00:18:03] Andrew: No, I think if something that was shared outside of the, get off set communication channels, and I was told explicitly not to tell you anyways,

[00:18:14] Emily: was that, did that really happen? Maybe

[00:18:19] Andrew: I’ve actually been told that more than once about other things, but people just assume that I tell you everything I’m like, not necessarily.

[00:18:26] Emily: Oh my God. All right. Well, I hope those people are watching and they’re very proud of you. Cause I I’m trying to think of, I keep secrets from you and I don’t think I usually do.

[00:18:40] Because we shared inbox.

[00:18:42] Andrew: Yeah. We shared inbox.

[00:18:43] Emily: What was there was, I think that if I, if there’s like all us, because it’s still like, it’s not like guaranteed, but, uh, I like to think that we are covered by the same NDA situations.

[00:18:57] Andrew: I certainly hope so after being told that that was illegal to share outside of anyways, but a strange

[00:19:07] Emily: conversation.

[00:19:09] I did break an NDA just enough to tell somebody that they didn’t know what the fuck they were talking about once. Like I just said, like, I have more knowledge about this and you’re wrong. And that was about where I left it. Like it was going to believe me. So people don’t

[00:19:27] Andrew: know. I don’t have a whole lot. That’s new with me this week. Um, aside from the fact that I am. Recording this podcast in the MTS, the house has been in a very long time. Excuse me, God bless America.

[00:19:46] I spent all day yesterday moving the rest of my mom’s stuff out. She is moved into a new place that is going to be very good for her. And yeah, that now I’m realizing, wow, this place is a bit empty now. And we’ve got a lot of rearranging to do, and I’m supposed to go back to work tomorrow. Oh my it’s like, I’m not doing the whole like, okay.

[00:20:08] Well I work from home some days of the week and I need to have a desk where I can do that work. So. But like I’ve got my desk like all cabled up and stuff. So like once I move it, I have to like really commit to, this is what I’m doing the entire day. I can’t just leave it like half

[00:20:21] Emily: a day. That was like, when I was putting this, my current standing desk together.

[00:20:25] And like, I, I need to just have like five hours to put one at the desk together and to like set all my stuff up again, like I

[00:20:33] Andrew: could cable up super quick. It would just look like a rat’s nest and. I try not to do that. Like, I’ve got like all the zip ties underneath for like everything.

[00:20:43] Emily: Yeah. Maybe I’ll spend some time today.

[00:20:46] Um, like rearranging, uh, cleaning tidying because yeah, I mean, th th uh, it just, it’s, it’s a lot to look at. Sometimes you guys know I can, I know I can do better. And. You don’t want

[00:21:05] Andrew: to see what my room looks like behind the green screen right now? It’s atrocious.

[00:21:10] Emily: You’re right. I don’t want to say that, but Hey, at least you’re going to about to have an office with a door and that’s really

[00:21:15] nice.

[00:21:15] Andrew: I’m going to have an office with the door. I’m going to be able to. Take least once I moved my desk, then the rest of everything I can piece meal, like the guitars I can sort out, I’m going to hang them on the wall. I’m going to get, like, I played around the idea of getting like a string swing so I can angle them instead of being flat against the

[00:21:33] Emily: wall.

[00:21:34] If I could do it again, I would just put like a big, a couple of big planks and I would. Mount those planks into the actual studs. And then I would, yeah, I would, if I, if I, and eventually I will do it again, but like, I’m not in a rush,

[00:21:52] Andrew: then my actually are hung up on steads. Um, they’re on drywall anchors, but I got the ones that are rated for like 70 pounds for each.

[00:21:59] And there’s two. Yeah, I don’t, yeah. If I can like, almost do a pull up on it, I’m sure. My eight pound guitar will be fine.

[00:22:08] Emily: Yeah. For, for me. It’s like I would change the height so I could stagger them is kind of one of the bigger things. Cause it’s like angle, like if I could stagger them and have them offset offset above, then I would have to take those, um, those shelves down.

[00:22:27] And it’s, it’s like a, it’s a whole thing. And sometimes I think, sure, I’ve done this on the other wall so I could push the desk out more. Like I. I think like once a year I do a pretty big, um, refiguring session of a reconfiguration of my, of my space. And that’s exactly what everybody wants to talk about.

[00:22:50] I’m sure. But, um, yeah, I’m just always on like, how can this space serve me better? Yup. Cause I don’t have a lot of it if you don’t, if you can’t be with the one you love, love the one you’re with, you know

[00:23:05] Andrew: sure. Well, that’s going to be the next couple of weeks. We’ll see if by next episode I’ll have migrated or not.

[00:23:14] Um, cause the, the room that I’m going to has to be. Yeah. So there’s, there’s three bedrooms and I’m going to be taking over one of them, but we have to shuffle better. Number two in the bedroom. Number one, bedroom, number three, and a better number two. And then I can populate better. Number three. Dang.

[00:23:30] Emily: You just move in everything.

[00:23:32] Andrew: Yeah, there’s the only room in the house. That’s not right. Shifting significantly is the kitchen. Every cabinet is going to be different now. Yeah. So lots changing. Um, yeah, I I’m like I find myself waking up this morning, like woo moot. We got past moved day. We’re all good. And then I really like. Okay, well now we’ve got the other part of moving.

[00:24:00] Yeah. I can’t celebrate

[00:24:01] Emily: too much yet. The complete reorganization of your, of your space. Uh, yeah, I mean, I mean, we’re talking about this, but, uh, Rick and I went to an open house just in our neighborhood. Cause it was open the other day. And uh, looking in that house, we’re like, We liked the place where we are even more now.

[00:24:19] Like, I just don’t want, I don’t get about Seattle bedrooms is that you cannot fix it like a queen size bed in them. Even if there was one, I was looking at the first bedroom and I asked the realtor, I’m like, so where’s the main bedroom he’s like that. I’m like, are you serious? I’m like, you can’t fit. You can barely fit the full size bed in here.

[00:24:41] He’s like, I’m like, okay. So I see why this has been on the market for a week and a half. Cause you want $900,000 for a bedroom bedrooms that don’t fit.

[00:24:52] Andrew: Oh yeah. Well you, you interacted with her on a double rate. Um, that, that’s how that works.

[00:25:00] Emily: I mean, we did it for like five years. Oh

[00:25:03] Andrew: really? Yeah. Oh, you were joking.

[00:25:07] Yeah, no, I, yeah, I was completely joking. Cause that sounds horrible to me. I also move a lot in

[00:25:15] Emily: my sleep. He has them most violent hypnic jerks as he was falling asleep. And, uh, we had a spring mattress for the first five years. So it was like, I really preferred to go to bed after he went to bed, because then at least that would have worked itself out.

[00:25:35] But, yeah, it’s just, isn’t it. You can love somebody and not want them to be breathing in your face the entire evening. Like, yeah, that was, that was like, like, oh my gosh. I just can’t be like, I can be touched. I can’t be breathed on

[00:25:51] don’t touch me.

[00:25:53] Andrew: Yep. Um, well, that’s going to be a. That is, that is my near future. As in, like, when we’re done recording, I’m take getting a quick bite to eat and I’m getting started.

[00:26:07] Emily: Nice. I’m going to get a sandwich from our local taco Maria and I am really excited about it.

[00:26:15] Andrew: A taco is a sandwich.

[00:26:17] Emily: I’m getting a torta sandwich from the taco Maria from tacos and beer,

[00:26:24] Andrew: but it’s hard to just an open face sandwich.

[00:26:25] Is that still a sandwich?

[00:26:27] Emily: Tortillas are not open face, dude.

[00:26:30] Andrew: I’m thinking tostada. You are, my brain is barely holding it together, but we’re here,

[00:26:37] Emily: but here we are. Here we are. Here we are. Please like comment, subscribe, rate us positively on iTunes or do not rate us at all.

[00:26:49] Don’t rate me unless it is good. Good ratings only,

[00:26:55] Andrew: right? He has says you gave us a three star review. Yep. Um, we

[00:27:01] Emily: don’t, I don’t think we have very many, we have like one, one star and like two or three, two stars, two or three, three stars. And then mostly five stars. So it’s three

[00:27:10] Andrew: stars, like the least given review, because people who are just like, kind of on things don’t care enough to, to review.

[00:27:17] It’s always like, it’s like, you got to skip the meds, you know?

[00:27:21] Emily: Yeah. That’s that’s, that’s like, if you look at an Amazon product review, it does seem like the meds are scooped a smudge, uh, not, not enough low and a lot of treble. Um, that’s what you want. Read

[00:27:32] Andrew: the negative reviews though, for two

[00:27:35] Emily: reasons.

[00:27:38] Because what, because then you can make an assessment on whether or not the review is bullshit.

[00:27:43] Andrew: Well, I mean, yeah. I mean, there’s that cause. But reviews are a thing. And I’ve definitely bought stuff before. Like, oh, I’ve got a lot of five star reviews. Then I ignored like the couple hundred, one star reviews that says, please don’t buy this.

[00:27:55] And

[00:27:56] Emily: I say, bots, do the one-star reviews too. There. I remember this is so dumb. I was kind of like looking at pillows on Amazon. And there were like every pillow brand had the same negative reviews that were like, it came moldy. Like there was mold in the bag. When I got the pillow, they were all the same picture.

[00:28:16] They were all like the same copy. And you’re like, oh, someone’s on like a black hat review campaign for all other pillows, except whatever pillow they’re selling.

[00:28:26] Andrew: Yep. I mean, that, that doesn’t surprise me. I’ve definitely seen that kind of a trend. I feel

[00:28:31] Emily: like. Okay. I got to meet our gear talk channel on Patrion.

[00:28:34] Sorry. I have to mute it for an hour. It’s pinging a lot. All right, I’m done. Sorry.

[00:28:40] Andrew: I that’s why I turned off the a notification sounds.

[00:28:44] Emily: Yeah. I always forget that they’re on, um, support as on Patrion for access to our super secret Patriot discord that I don’t usually mute,

[00:28:55] Andrew: which I, I do mute, but I also am pretty.

[00:28:58] Active in there. Anyways, I just check when I have a break. Yeah. So please don’t hear that as a, I don’t care. I don’t pay attention cause I do. I love all of you.

[00:29:08] Emily: Yeah. And if you are a potential advertiser and are looking for affordable rates for sponsorships hit us up, we would love to talk about how we can work together.

[00:29:21] Agreed big fan of working together.

[00:29:26] Andrew: Um, to quote high school musical. We are all in this together.

[00:29:30] Emily: Never seen it really. I’m just a smidge old for it. I was at, I think I was like out of high school when it came out. And then like when you’re in college, why the hell would you want to watch high school?

[00:29:41] Musical

[00:29:42] Andrew: fair. Fair, fair,

[00:29:44] Emily: fair. Except for Zach Efron. Who’s a national treasure.

[00:29:51] I’m just joking, but I did love him in hairspray.

[00:29:57] Okay. Noted Andrew didn’t like that. Um, so we were talking about the Eva young guitar and I remarked that it, uh, comes in a very unique tuning. What do you know what the tuning is?

[00:30:17] Andrew: Not off the top of my head. I think it’s

[00:30:20] Emily: S a C G B E. So it’s the same top three strains as the standard tuning, but then just like it’s, it’s, it’s weird.

[00:30:30] Cause like open tunings. I get, I get like psychologically I can wrap my brain around them. Uh, you Sherman, it’s an open chord, but this is just like a little bit different and I’m probably going to leave it in that tuning for, for the demo. But I won’t be able to play any of my very many of my regular riffs, but that’s fine.

[00:30:50] Andrew: You should learn a covet song.

[00:30:53] Emily: I she’s, she’s so much better than I am.

[00:30:58] Andrew: I think you should try.

[00:31:00] Emily: I think I should try. It just depends on how much time I

[00:31:02] Andrew: have. It sounds really difficult and I’m, I would be scared to try, but I believe in you. Let

[00:31:08] Emily: me see if there are any good tutorials.

[00:31:11] Andrew: I imagine there has to be

[00:31:13] Emily: young kids.

[00:31:14] It’s hard tutorial or guitar lesson that’s popping up. Um,

[00:31:24] Andrew: even if it’s not the whole song, just like riffs that you can like toss into the

[00:31:28] Emily: demo. F a O G C E. So I would just have to change the tuning a little bit for this one. CIC rifts 47 from guitar world. You bet young teaches you covets parachute.

[00:31:42] Andrew: Well, there

[00:31:42] Emily: you are. There I go. It looks like I’m cooking with gas,

[00:31:48] Andrew: propane.

[00:31:50] Emily: I’m not cooking with gas, I’m cooking with hardwood pellets. Yeah. So that’s, I’m excited for that, I think. But like, I know you’re like you should learn something and I will, but, um, I, I don’t do this enough, but changing tunings does really force you to stretch those creative muscles a little bit.

[00:32:09] Cause you’re, you’re moving outside of that muscle memory territory. That’s so dangerous with, with guitarists and musicians in general and songwriting guilty. Yeah. Yeah, but all your guitars or aren’t your, all your guitars in the same tuning right now?

[00:32:24] Andrew: No. Um, I’ve got one of my acoustic is in dad GAD and I’ve got, um, my dad and I’ve got my, uh, green guitar and dropsy.

[00:32:35] Emily: Mm oh, that’s very true because I remember what you were talking to this Scottish string joy about, um, about the sh

[00:32:41] Andrew: he did a phenomenal job and it just, the tension is all just, just right. Nick plays like butter. Um, But then, yeah, I think I’ve got the standard standard and standard,

[00:32:54] Emily: um, standard theater in theater.

[00:32:58] I don’t know.

[00:32:58] Andrew: I have toyed around with the idea of putting a baritone conversion neck on my telly.

[00:33:03] Emily: Yeah. I mean, I have one of those at my house and I just have to do it.

[00:33:08] Andrew: I told her, I know that I’ve also toyed around. I don’t think I’m going to do it now. We’ve been talking about doing this. This, uh, this parts gasser builds since like January and I’ve been really meaning to get to it.

[00:33:20] And I just want to move and everything it’s been months of like packing stuff up. I’m like just free time has just been sucked up and then hopefully we’ll be able to get, start seriously digging in. But one of the things that I’ve tossed around the idea of is doing a baritone build because that’s something that I don’t have.

[00:33:37] And I think I’m going to shy away from it because I specifically want Strat sounds build and. Doing a baritone tuning. I’m not sure would lend well to giving me like the, I mean, but maybe it might, I don’t know.

[00:33:54] Emily: I mean, but look, you know, tele didn’t, isn’t the neck kind of bad on that. Tele

[00:33:59] Andrew: the neck is definitely a little warped on the tele and it’s going to need to be replaced at some point.

[00:34:04] It’s just, it’s my first electric guitar. And I like how that neck feels so much, um, So, yeah, no, I mean, it is what it is. I, it wasn’t dropsy and I lent it to a buddy for a summer to hold onto while I was away from college. Um, and he said that the standard and he tuned it to standard and then it boated out and then he’s like, I dunno, it’s boat out.

[00:34:29] This is weird. And then just left it tuned to standard in the case for the rest of the time. Um, Is what it is. I mean, damage is done and it’s not a neck that’s worth the money on having re like fully fixed up. Yeah. Um, but so that’s something that’s that, that would lend me to consider going the baritone route for conversion

[00:34:55] Emily: neck.

[00:34:55] I don’t always do it for a while and then change it back. I mean, it’s. It’s not it’s, it’s, it’s a completely

[00:35:05] Andrew: no problem.

[00:35:06] Emily: Yeah. And that actually, and I find baritone guitars to be really inspiring. And there, there are some, some people I play with back when live shows existed, who, um, I only use other tone guitar, um, because they don’t have a basis and we need that extra low end.

[00:35:22] So I always have fun with that. But, um, I think I find it to be really, you know, stretch shushes those creative muscles a little bit in a good way, but that what you talking about that net core thing reminded me of, um, are you familiar with the subreddit? Am I the asshole? Yes. Well, I tend to enjoy, um, my, my, the asphalt content most on Twitter.

[00:35:45] And there was one this week that I, I pulled Michael James Adams into, uh, about this guy whose babysitter, uh, took their eye off. Took her eye off this guy’s kid for 20 minutes. And the guy said the kid somehow moved to sofa to hop the baby gate, go into the basement and pull one of his guitars off the wall.

[00:36:08] And he said, I took it to my Lucier and the guys in, in, in pooling the guitar off the wall, the kid warped the neck. And he wants the babysitter to pay $2,200 for a replacement guitar now for the fee of fixing it. But because there will be some diminished value wants her to pay the it’s basically buy this guy a new guitar a 19 year old.

[00:36:32] I’m like, yeah. You know, I think asking her to pay for the repair is fair, but 20, sorry, dude. I’d be upset. I’d be upset. But also, and I, this is why I pulled my guidance until I’m like, can you even work a neck from a drop like that? And he says like, you can, um, it’s possible to break the trust rod and more, uh, yeah, when you’re pulling it from a wall, but, um, a couple of them have people made this point, and this is what I was thinking.

[00:37:08] He’s keeping this guitar in the basement. And I feel like it’s more likely that the neck had warped because of improper storage. And he just didn’t notice until it got pulled off the wall. I took it in for a checkup.

[00:37:22] Andrew: I could see that being entirely plausible, depending on like, if it’s like an unfinished basement or something, but if it’s hanging on the wall, I don’t know.

[00:37:30] Like I’ve, I’ve, I’ve seen like basement studios, um, sound. That’s a good way to. So I, I could also, I could also see it legitimately being damaged, but even, even if you take it at face value and, and don’t speculate on the likelihood that he’s trying to pull a fast one

[00:37:51] Emily: or just doesn’t know about it. Cause I, at the same time, I feel like from the description he gave in this, in this descript, in this write up that he would have said the truss rod broke.

[00:38:03] Yep. I kind of feel like he would have said that, but who knows? Who knows, but yeah,

[00:38:11] Andrew: go ahead. Yeah, that’s super strange. I, regardless you take, take it at face value, don’t charge the babysitter $2,200.

[00:38:20] Emily: Like literally never hire this person again, because again, they did leave your kid. Uh, uh, supervise for at least 20 minutes and that’s not okay,

[00:38:28] but

[00:38:29] Andrew: not at the same time though.

[00:38:30] Like when you’re hiring, like, you know, teenagers for babysitting, I think your bar of expectation should be like, your child’s still alive and breathing when you get home. Yeah.

[00:38:39] Emily: 20, 20, 20 bucks an hour. I don’t even think it’s that much for a babysitter. That seems really low. So incredibly low. Yeah. I mean also a great reminder to, um, make sure your instruments are insured.

[00:38:53] Yep. Uh, yeah, but it’s kind of what I kept coming back to with this in the asshole part. Um, if, if, if someone else hits your car with their car, their insurance will cover a fix as long as it’s fixable. And it w but it won’t cover a new car if it’s fixable. And if it’s the neck. On a guitar that’s usually quite fixable.

[00:39:20] Um, so

[00:39:21] Andrew: yeah, placeable for a few hundred bucks.

[00:39:24] Emily: It’s that’s, it’s gonna it’s it’s a replay situation for sure. Um, so like, my thing is like, if it was a car and then Harrison insurance, they wouldn’t be buying you a new car. My dude, even though fixing a car does probably diminish the value of it a little bit.

[00:39:40] It’s sure. Yeah. I just don’t think that. I think like I was an asshole for wanting to do that. Agreed.

[00:39:48] Andrew: Agreed. I think that that screams that’s

[00:39:53] Emily: denim Blue’s lawyer. That’s what you’re gonna say. Isn’t that

[00:40:03] he didn’t go straight to litigation almost. So checked out

[00:40:11] Andrew: tube, screams blues lawyer. Um,

[00:40:13] Emily: it’s like once my husband dropped my Segal acoustic and he really did a number on it, I didn’t ask him to buy me a new guitar. I didn’t even ask him to fix it. To be honest. Like you just kinda start, you gotta take the yell and it sucks, but you gotta.

[00:40:29] Sometimes you gotta take the L

[00:40:31] Andrew: seagulls. Aren’t that expensive anyways?

[00:40:33] Emily: Yeah. 2200 bucks though. Les Paul, you think

[00:40:38] Andrew: Paris? Ooh. Yeah. Yeah. Les Paul’s, aren’t usually that cheap. If it’s like a guitar that he cares about

[00:40:47] Emily: it kind of, it was weird to me because he was, so if I cared about, if I really cared about the guitar.

[00:40:55] I would absolutely get it fixed. And because I just wanna play the guitar, but to talk about the value, like in resale terms, I feel unless it was some sort of vintage instrument,

[00:41:10] Andrew: which then wouldn’t likely be 2200 bucks, it’d probably be more notable.

[00:41:15] Emily: Yes. Yes. I, I dunno. I feel like there’s something kind of weird about it.

[00:41:20] I wondered if the guy just wanted to get a new guitar. And then he was going to get the other one fixed anyway. But sometimes, sometimes things happen, their instruments, you know, they’re, they’re made to be used. And I’m really sorry that happened to that guy. I’m glad his kid is okay, but you cannot ask a 19 year old.

[00:41:41] I don’t think I had $2,200 when I was 19.

[00:41:46] Andrew: I definitely did not.

[00:41:47] Emily: Yeah, no

[00:41:49] Andrew: more than that in debt at that point in time. Yeah. Yeah, no, I maybe it’s because I was recently 19, but they’re teenagers.

[00:42:01] Emily: I don’t know. Yeah. You make some dumb decisions

[00:42:04] Andrew: there. There’s going to be dumb decisions made. I mean,

[00:42:12] Maybe 19 because there, you know, age of 18 should be treated like an adult. Sure. I, I guess, I don’t know. I wouldn’t hold a 19 year old to the same standard. I would even like a 22 year old. There’s a huge, there’s so much growth that happens with kids these days. Yeah.

[00:42:28] Emily: Kids these days. Um, you’re still very much like.

[00:42:32] Figuring out life. And unless you really invested like that bat mitzvah money or something really well, like, or graduation money, like that’s probably like, that would probably be all of that. Girl’s graduation money.

[00:42:49] Andrew: People get money at graduation. Yeah.

[00:42:53] Emily: From high school. Yeah.

[00:42:57] Andrew: Someone should have notified by family.

[00:43:01] Emily: It’s kind of like wedding gifts, I think. Um, like you don’t have a registry for college. Right. But, uh, no. I mean, it, wasn’t never a lot of money, but like my grandparents gave me, you know, uh, some amount of money, I mean, but my family, so I, I definitely had a lot of privilege with my family. Um, kind of. Upper ish.

[00:43:24] Middle-class um, my, my, my parents always very much were of the idea that instead of doing things like making sure I worked a job to save a car, save for a car, like we will get you a car if you keep your grades up because your job as a teenager is school. So, you know, that was probably a different experience than a lot of people had.

[00:43:47] And I was very grateful for it, even at the time.

[00:43:50] Andrew: That is a very different experience of what I had, but I mean, everyone has different experiences. I don’t have a problem with that.

[00:43:56] Emily: I worked in the summer and I worked really hard, kind of crappy job. I didn’t have ties to touch strangers and I hated it.

[00:44:09] Um, yeah, sweaty strangers at a theme park and one of the airbrush tattoos.

[00:44:15] Andrew: I can smell that

[00:44:16] Emily: it was smelly. I imagine what that smells like. Oh, I can give you a guess of what sort of visceral place I revisit every time I smell hot garbage

[00:44:27] Andrew: there’s that? And then like the chlorine smell from the

[00:44:31] Emily: Potter.

[00:44:33] Andrew: Which, um, turns out this really screwed with the, I watch a Mar mark Rover video, like one of his older ones, couple weeks ago, about your, how much urine is in a pool. And one of the things that they learned in the process like, oh yeah, by the way, that’s like pool water. Doesn’t smell until someone peas in it.

[00:44:48] So if the pool water smells, you’re smelling the reaction of the chemicals of the pee, I was like, that’s disgusting. I

[00:44:57] Emily: know like, Don’t act like you’ve never peed in a cell.

[00:45:03] Andrew: I haven’t, no, I don’t ocean, absolutely. In my wetsuit. Definitely in a pool Cero. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:45:12] Emily: Totally the same,

[00:45:14] Andrew: but no swimming pool.

[00:45:16] That’s disgusting.

[00:45:18] Emily: I’m not saying it’s not gross, but I was a kid. I was little.

[00:45:24] Andrew: Okay. The kiddie pool doesn’t count. Okay. Also when

[00:45:26] Emily: you’re a girl, you have to take the whole like thing off, like if you don’t have, if you have a one piece, which is, you know, more normal for younger girls to get off of one pieces when it’s wet, especially not fun, not fun.

[00:45:42] Very, very, very much tangled. Yeah. It’s like, um, as a kid, I got stuck in what bathing suits. Now, as an adult woman, I get stuck in sports bras. Like it’s not fun.

[00:45:56] Andrew: Well, I think we were kind of talk about burnout in this episode. We’ve just got a very different direction. You

[00:46:02] Emily: know, sometimes you just have to have a chat.

[00:46:08] I was thinking about, um, about like the end of like quarantining. Also already, I think because I had drinks outside, um, at chucks. Yeah. The other day with, with a client. And, uh, we were all just so hyped to talk to other humans that we haven’t been quarantining with. It was really a fun, like a funny experience.

[00:46:33] I think that’s just, what’s going to be like, and like when I played an outdoor gig this summer, that was very different than what I thought it was going to be. And I regretted doing it very much. It was like a bunch of performers and you could not get them off the stage. They were just like vamping until like someone else literally came onto the stage and kicked them off of the stage.

[00:46:58] And I think that’s what it’s going to be like. Like people are announcing cures. Um, next week, we’re the person we’re talking to just. Uh, their band just, uh, got confirmed to, to go on, uh, next week. Hopefully we’re going to have Julia from rappers on the show and rat boys is supposed to tour with, um, Julian baker in Europe.

[00:47:19] Oh, that sounds so fun. Yeah, that’s going to be a great show. Julian baker is really good at picking, um, supporting to her sport.

[00:47:29] Andrew: Really. And now just the idea of going out is so nice, actually did go out to lunch the other day. And that was, that was an experience. I was so freaked out, but I’m like, I’m going to eat food with another human at a restaurant.

[00:47:46] Oh my God. What to it was the, it was the day that prince Philip died away. We had actually already planned to do this. We went to the British pantry out in Redmond. So we sat down and I’m like, oh, I’ll have a chicken Curry pasty, and, um, some chips. And, uh, and I’m just sitting there, like, look over, there’s a table of old British ladies.

[00:48:07] Like ex-pats talking about what a hunk Philip was in his younger days. It was like, this is the,

[00:48:16] Emily: that is a full experience ban. Um,

[00:48:21] Andrew: yeah. I will refrain from indulging my dark sense of

[00:48:26] Emily: humor, please, please. Great. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I don’t want, I don’t want it to do any, uh, post production, this to edit out, uh, jokes that might not go over so well with a certain demographic.

[00:48:40] Andrew: And the demographic is Americans because the Brits will think it’s hilarious. Yeah, but they’re also just very dark human beings, which is why I liked them so much. Um, British

[00:48:50] Emily: humor is it’s its own thing.

[00:48:54] Andrew: Indeed.

[00:48:54] Emily: Yes,

[00:48:56] Andrew: man. No, I, I think I’ve definitely, as far as burnout goes, I think the last year I’ve been like in and out of it pretty, a lot more in the sense of just being cooped up at home all the time.

[00:49:12] But. Melissa hopeful that a chance to like, to, to re rearrange the house and kind of reassess what are, are day in, day out rhythms of life are I’m hoping is going to give me a chance to cut out a couple of things that I don’t need to be doing as much of any more, um, take do a little bit more of self-care and just take it, take the opportunity to revamp things a bit and hopefully point me in the right direction in terms of getting back on my feet.

[00:49:41] Um, yeah. No, I, I, I’m sure I’m not

[00:49:46] Emily: alone in that. Are you S are you saying partially that, like, you just haven’t been playing as much as you would like to be, or are you talking about different kinds of burners?

[00:49:53] Andrew: Yeah, I know. I haven’t been playing hardly at all lately. Um, and if I do it’s, I haven’t plugged into my amp in like couple, three weeks now.

[00:50:02] I mean, it is what it is, um, in part of that’s just the stress of the move as well. I mean, that’s just taken up the time and the. The mental energy, but

[00:50:13] Emily: yeah, that’s the mental energy is real. I mean, I haven’t played or written this, like for my self as much as I would like to, I would love to like, just be able to take several hours and just like learn some new stuff.

[00:50:27] And I was kind of going through and learning a few new things, but like a lot of that energy is taken by like copywriting projects or the demos stuff. And, uh, It’s when, when you’re done, you’d done it the day of the day, you know, and especially since so much of what I, the work I’ve been doing right now has been taking a lot more mental energy than, uh, my previous role.

[00:50:53] Like just it’s, it’s placed differently. Like instead of doing a lot of research, I’m doing a lot of like creative stuff with words and it’s great. And I’m really glad I get to do that all day. It’s a lot more fun, but, um, I’ve. I’m playing a little bit less, less guitar. And also that there’s no live music and my bands like getting together and writing and rehearsing and jamming.

[00:51:18] Uh it’s I think that was a big, um, kick in the ass. I always had it every week. I was like, oh, I’m going to go play with my band. We might end up, you know, writing some stuff and, um, Yeah. I, I work really well with deadlines, so hopefully I have something that’s going to hopefully come together. And the next couple months that I’ll be able to, um, just generally have fun with and write something.

[00:51:46] Andrew: Totally. No, I, I, I’m thinking through, I think in terms of like setting up the new office, um, I’m thinking through what are ways that I can make the space more like. Inspirational seems like such a hokey thing, but I think more,

[00:52:03] Emily: but like that’s a real thing.

[00:52:05] Andrew: Yeah. I mean, it’s, there’s, there’s definitely that it also like functional in the sense of like being able to plug and play.

[00:52:10] And, um, I think I want to try and sort out a way that I can have, um, like a. Cause like, I don’t want to have pedals on my desk, like all the time. So maybe be like a secondary, like behind me, something where I can just like, I’ve got a power supply. That’s always there ready to go, just to plug in with a patch, like a little hanger for patch cables or something.

[00:52:30] So I can just kind of turn around at my desk on a break and just kind of plug in with whatever I’ve got at the moment. Play for five minutes and move on.

[00:52:37] Emily: Yeah, that was a big. Um, reason I’ve rearranged my office. So like, this has always been my backdrop for my demos pretty much, but my desk used to be in the other corner.

[00:52:47] So I would have to come over here every single time, reset up everything. And now I can just be like camera on lighting on camera, camera, record. Demo cause otherwise, like there, I, I was very much to the point where like, if I do any demos, I need to do like three, four or five in a day, just so I don’t have to set all this stuff back up and sucked.

[00:53:17] It really sucked. Um, so I’m just continuously making little improvements here and there to my setup and, um, makes me happy.

[00:53:27] Andrew: Well, I am very curious to hear, um, I kind of want to punt this to the listeners a little bit, but thoughts, comments, concerns for inspirational spaces in your home studios? Really cool.

[00:53:38] I want, I want to hear feedback like legitimately, because I’m personally because I’m feeling a little overwhelmed at the idea of having, like, I’ve been looking forward to this and now I’m like, I can do, I don’t know what I’m doing yet.

[00:53:49] Emily: I guess, tag us in your Instagram stories and we’ll, um, Send

[00:53:54] Andrew: me photos of your studio spaces.

[00:53:56] Tell me things that you’ve done that have, that have helped make your space more usable and inspirational. And yeah. I want to hear all of that.

[00:54:05] Emily: Yeah, that sounds awesome. I think that’s a good place to end it. What do you think?

[00:54:10] Andrew: I think I can live with that.

[00:54:12] Emily: Yes. All right. Well, uh, everybody out there. Thanks for, thanks for listening.

[00:54:17] Thanks for watching. Thanks for understanding until next time. My name is Emily.

[00:54:21] Andrew: And my name is Andrew goodbye. That’s all books.

[00:54:26] Emily: There’s actually an, a rhythmic pattern to that. Uh, the Porky pig stutter. So next time do it right. Or don’t do it at all by .