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Get Offset Episode 145: Post SNAMM Regrets

Get Offset Episode 145: Post SNAMM Regrets

This week, Emily and Andrew recap SNAMM, Andrew talks about being sad he didn’t go, and the two talk about how they’re adjusting to “back to normal” in the world.

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Episode Transcript

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[00:00:00] Andrew: Welcome to the get offset podcast. My name is Andrew

[00:00:17] Emily: and my name is Emily. And you

[00:00:22] Andrew: know, I, I think I said podcast.

[00:00:25] Emily: Hello. Pause spot like 15 times last week, get off spot, get off spot. Oh my gosh. I was embarrassing and in front of my friends, oh, the worst.

[00:00:40] Andrew: You’re like, who’s this poser

[00:00:42] Emily: like, oh, she can’t even Sue the name of her. Podcost

[00:00:46] Andrew: and she shot gunning white closet. 10:00 AM. Nobody noticed.

[00:00:54] Emily: I just forgot to bug Tia to pull that dash cam footage. But

[00:00:57] Andrew: I want to see that cause I don’t, I just, I can’t imagine like living in a city where that’s a thing.

[00:01:04] Emily: I can’t either. Cause it wasn’t a thing when I lived there, but like there were some party vehicles, like the pedal tat, like it was kind of innocuous and there were a school buses that were, they were tourists things.

[00:01:17] You could rent them out for your parties, but normally it would just be like, There was like a, a Nash trash tour that was like comedian, like these two funny ladies. And they would take you to different places in Nashville. And they’d just be funny about it. And it was like an old pink converted school bus or whatever, but the party industry has gone.

[00:01:38] So next level it’s it’s it seems like a public health hazard. I’m going to be on it.

[00:01:47] Andrew: Yeah, no, I agree. I mean, I lived in Germany for a little bit and they’ve got open carry laws. Um, and so open care, that sounds like Jen’s, um, open container. There we go. Um, but like open container is totally fine. And like, and so for the most, for the most part, like, you know, that’s contained to like the walk flats, um, or like people just like want to like walk back.

[00:02:09] Emily: Well, the

[00:02:11] Andrew: work groups, the work plan. Yeah. I mean, it’s like the German accent. No. Um, I, I, my German is terrible. I, I respect it. I

[00:02:24] Emily: respect

[00:02:24] Andrew: that. Uh, yeah. And I don’t really speak more than a couple of words of German, Josh, Josh. Um, yeah, I’m it’s a bit, or, um, but. I look the hush fingerling,

[00:02:45] Emily: ah, Dorf,

[00:02:46] Andrew: uh, anyways. So, but that, that was for like festivals and like Christmas markets and stuff like that.

[00:02:52] And like, so people just walk around like some, like some glue vine or like a beer or whatever. It’s like no big deal with no one’s getting smashed. It’s just like, we’re all having a good time and

[00:03:00] Emily: hanging out at 10:00 AM for the back of that. The thing that bothered me was that the bar. It might’ve been at her ways or slightly above, but it was still not high enough that you would not have just been able to completely teeter-totter.

[00:03:16] Right.

[00:03:16] Andrew: All it takes us for like one rabbit to jump in front of the truck and the goal

[00:03:21] Emily: it’s like weevils wobble, but they don’t fall down, but that bitch would have directly in front of Tia’s car. And we did not want that, but we were, we were yelling. Do it and then just shut

[00:03:33] Andrew: get back in the truck.

[00:03:35] Emily: I think you’ll get better friends.

[00:03:39] Andrew: Oh yeah. Um, no, that, that sounds kind of magical and horrifying all at the same time. It’s like some sort of like weird, like if the purge happened, but without all the violence. Um, yeah,

[00:03:53] Emily: if people just perched themselves a little bit and it gets called the Darwin awards. I wish I would have no, no ill will toward this woman, but her, she needs better friends.

[00:04:06] Like they should’ve been someone at least should have held her down. So

[00:04:09] Andrew: today we’re going to talk about this guy. It’s my new liquid cleanse diet and you drink nothing but white.

[00:04:16] Emily: You know, I think someone finally made me understand why I just don’t like hard seltzers and hard seltzers are really seeing a big dive right now.

[00:04:26] Cause it tastes bad. Cause they’re all malt liquor, but uh, there’s this stuff called ranch water. And I know that ranch water is a cocktail. Um, it’s, it’s a traditional company. So the water tequila, lime juice, but there’s this company that sells it and it’s, it’s a hard seltzer made with a GABA instead of like beet sugar.

[00:04:50] So it’s basically like it’s a lot more like tequila and juice, lime juice. And then, uh, they had some flavors like prickly pear, which was really good and a spicy that was kind of like a spicy margarita, just without sugar. They’re really, really good. And they’re also like triggering a chorus lights. Why are you even drinking?

[00:05:11] Just drink, just drink a LaCroix, just not have the courage to drink of sparkling water.

[00:05:15] Andrew: Sure, sure. They probably have more flavor.

[00:05:18] Emily: Um, they actually, I mean, if there was a hard seltzer, I mean just a regular seltzer that was like spicy like that. I would a hundred percent drink. Good. That was delicious. I don’t need, I don’t need the alcohol part of that.

[00:05:31] Andrew: Fair enough. I, uh, well, while we’re talking alcoholic, yes. And

[00:05:37] Emily: at nine in the morning, we were talking about alcohol judging, a woman trip.

[00:05:42] Andrew: Um, but I’m double fisting coffee. So I’ve made the same set of coffee beans, uh, two different ways, um,

[00:05:49] Emily: single Fest in coffee and my shop pop mug, not the best, but pretty good.

[00:05:56] My motto, which is my motto in life. I was going to start a band called aggressively mediocre. I’m sure I for eating. And then I was going to name our first record, not the best, but still good. And then I tell the sub pop label. I’m like, well, I can’t do that now, but I like it

[00:06:15] stop. And we had to restart. Sorry about that. I’ll

[00:06:19] Andrew: get all good. So anyhow, the cocktails ever so briefly, I discovered a new car. A recipe. It’s one of those, like just showed up my, my newsfeed on my phone and, uh, it’s called a whiskey smash. I’m sure this is probably gonna be one of those dumb things where like everybody else and their cousin have heard of it.

[00:06:40] Um, but I hadn’t heard of it and I tried making it myself and it’s so good.

[00:06:48] Emily: I’ve heard of it, but I’ve never investigated it. Passing its name on a menu. What is it?

[00:06:56] Andrew: Um, it’s kind of like a cross between a lemon sour and a mint Julep, and it’s somehow better than both combined. So you take bourbon, lemon juice, simple.

[00:07:07] So we’ve got whiskey sour goes in to the shaker, but then you also add in, um, some, some lemon peel. Which is standard, uh, which is I think Royal Regal shake where you fat citrus in the shaker. So yeah, you put that, you put that in the shaker or as a garnish in the shaker, lemon peel goes in the shaker, what happens is it hits against the ice.

[00:07:27] It expresses way more oil and it all gets mixed in. So instead of just doing a twist over the top, it’s completely infused all the way through, but then the, I I’ve seen that technique and a handful of recipes. I think it’s really neat. And I do it for coffee cocktails as well. The next step, which I hadn’t thought of is then you just put mint in the shaker as well.

[00:07:50] And it does the same thing. Nice. And so you give it a good shake, pour it over ice. And it’s just this minty lemony bourbon. He just so smooth. So crisp. So refreshing. You just try

[00:08:02] Emily: adding a Sprig of Bazell in there too.

[00:08:07] Andrew: I do have a basil plant. Actually. I have two basil plants.

[00:08:11] Emily: I think basil in a cocktail is just like, sometimes it’s one of those like secret sauce.

[00:08:16] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:08:17] Andrew: I think Ty Bazell yeah. Yes.

[00:08:21] Emily: That’s what, that’s what my sister-in-law hasn’t heard yet.

[00:08:24] Andrew: I only have, um, the boring, I don’t know what it’s called. Bazell

[00:08:30] Emily: English. Well, maybe.

[00:08:34] Andrew: I have no idea. Um, so I guess it’s probably whatever you’d find it. The Kroger things is probably where we got it and like a little potted section grabbed that and we just tossed that in pizzas or whatever.

[00:08:47] God, it makes me want to get out and garden. It’s probably too late to plant a lot of things. Yeah.

[00:08:53] Emily: Yeah, it’s too late to plant some things, but it’s not, probably not too late to plant anything. You could probably grow Bazell all year long inside. If you have like, um, just a simple grow light situation.

[00:09:04] Andrew: Uh, yeah, we got a couple small grill lights, but that’s for succulents typically.

[00:09:10] Emily: Yeah, we have, um, we have one that’s specifically for herbs and a little herb garden, but it, yeah, fair enough. We just, we haven’t really used it.

[00:09:22] Andrew: So that said what’s new with you.

[00:09:24] Emily: What’s new with me. I mean, you saw my guitar. It’s uh, oh my God. It’s majestic. Majestic is the word that Michelle and I would use.

[00:09:39] It is a Gatlinburg fever dream. Like you calling it Gatlinburg fever dream. I actually missed my friend, Michelle and I recorded a little mini audio only episode that I hadn’t released. So I got to deal when I release it, because it’s pretty funny just hearing us describe the guitar, but it is whew it’s man, but it’s not going to stay that way.

[00:10:02] I think it’s going to be the most controversial thing I’ve ever done will be refinishing that guitar. And it’s bananas to me, how many people are like, keep it, keep it. I’m like you, if you wanted to keep it that badly, it was rotting and Carter vanished for three years. You had three years to buy it. One of the most trafficked guitar shops in one of the most like popular cities for just going for the sole purpose of buying a guitar.

[00:10:33] Like I can’t imagine how many thousands of people have seen that guitar and thought. Oh, hell no.

[00:10:44] Andrew: They’re like quick. How do you take a picture of you with this? This is if we’re going to laugh about this fruit for at least a

[00:10:49] Emily: day and a half, the price has completely that it has a bead bender because like I got it for roundabout.

[00:10:59] What it would cost to have one installed it, a guitar. Like, like the gift. Like if I, if I, if I went to Parsons B vendor string, vendor website, and just ordered one it’s about the same, but, uh, yeah, I’m pretty, I’m pretty happy. I’m happy with my purchase. I think it’s a really great sounding guitar and, um, um, I’m just.

[00:11:26] I have no regrets, like the day that they had bought it, I was just like sitting there and Michelle’s house just like, kind of going between, I just did that and I can’t believe I just did that. Like I was, it was just like going between like, Just complete, like Zen, like yes, I have the school guitar. Right.

[00:11:47] What the hell did I just do? Like there was no in between, it was such a roller coaster of emotions.

[00:11:54] Andrew: Like to imagine Jack Black felt when he started to navel society.

[00:11:58] Emily: What did I just do? I just did that. No, I think he was just like, I just did that the whole time.

[00:12:05] Andrew: Yeah, bless that. Plus that man, um, national

[00:12:10] Emily: treasurer.

[00:12:11] I just love my, I love that his, in his own mind, even his Magnum Opus, his, this citizen Kane is school of rock and it’s because he convinced kids to pick up instruments and he completely changed the way. People teach kids how to play music, because even before school of rock, like when I was learning guitar at first, it was still very, very stuffy.

[00:12:37] Like it was still like learn these classical songs, learn this classical pose. It was very much, yeah, it was very much, um, what you would expect if it, if you wanted to go to Julliard. But then I think they, after school of rock, it was, it really changed. There was like a, and there wasn’t a school, an official school of rock because those do exist.

[00:13:03] Um, something similar open in the town at a town close to mine, a guy who just like, I just want to teach kids to play the risks. They want to learn how to play. I also want to teach them classic rock riffs. Like obviously we’re going to teach you how to play. Jimmy Hendrix songs. Well, you know, that was the best kids can play.

[00:13:20] Jimmy Hendrix songs and black Sabbath. But you know, if a kid wants to learn how to play a Taylor swift song, the kid wants to learn how to play, um, a blink 180 2 song. If that’s what gets kids playing music, I’m going to teach them how to play it. And then he would assemble band. So, um, like he’d have, obviously kids would come and learn how to play dramas from hen.

[00:13:41] They take vocal lessons, guitar base he’d assemble the bands and then they’d have like actual risks instead of their sales being like here’s Emily playing her, you know, this little classical piece by herself, it would be here’s this group that’s practiced together twice and they’re playing, you know, fire by Jimmy Hendrix.

[00:14:02] Actually, you can see, you can see th Emily play in that, on YouTube somewhere.

[00:14:07] Andrew: There you go. Yeah, no, I think the added benefit to that as well as not only like, are the kids going to be super into it, but parents who were like listening to their kid play music that was popular when they were a kid. Thank God.

[00:14:19] They get

[00:14:20] Emily: a lot more into it too. Yeah,

[00:14:21] Andrew: I think there’s definitely more of that. Like, oh, that’s my kid. That’s pretty cool.

[00:14:25] Emily: It’s bonding. It’s, it’s like a bonding thing too, you know, and like my mom and I both listened to a lot of Elvis Costello together. So if I’m playing Elvis Costello songs and that’s, that’s cool for both of us, you know, just finding those things that you and your kids can have in common, because I think music does that.

[00:14:45] I think, I think that if you really embrace your kids, Loving the music. Like if you just let your kid love whatever music they love, eventually they’re going to be like, oh, I love, um, Olivia Rodrigo, what did she, what inspired and Livia Rodrigo. Parentline what Ryan was inspired pair more. Right? So then it becomes this, it becomes a greater appreciation.

[00:15:13] So if you’re honestly, if your kid likes Olivia Rodriguez, You’re you might be at the age where you were into pair more when you were young or if not, the pair morning to Liz fair or something, and you might be able to get that sort of like connection. Like my mom, my mom, I liked, um, you know, the donnas and stuff.

[00:15:36] And then my mom played me. Veruca salt. Yeah. That’s cool.

[00:15:41] Andrew: Right. Right. And I, in a similar fashion, I bought with my dad over in the songs. I was learning how to play in, uh, as a mediocre guitar player. Um, I was grateful that he was just a Nirvana fan. Um, made my life a lot easier. Hey dad, look, I can play a bad a girl.

[00:15:59] Oh,

[00:15:59] Emily: yeah, two chords. I know, but when you, like, when you, when you start with zero courts, right, right. That’s a big deal as something to celebrate.

[00:16:12] Andrew: I agree. Well, anyways, um, hats off Jack Black or whatever the slew is that he does

[00:16:19] Emily: love Jack Black. Our true king. We don’t deserve Jack Black, man. I love hookah. I think outside of school of rock is obviously that whole thing is my favorite.

[00:16:29] Uh, my, I think one of my favorite Jack Black scenes in a movie is an orange county. When he jumps into save, um, Colin Hanks character in the pool before jumping to the pool, he takes off his socks. He’s like he just takes off his socks. He, I think he had lived that.

[00:16:50] Andrew: No, no. My favorite, I still got to say though, naturally res got to be my favorite Jack Black film.

[00:17:00] I can’t justify it. I can’t justify. It’s just, it’s phenomenal. It’s like, I don’t know is a church kid. I think for me growing up as a church, it was like that. Okay. You need to watch it recommend. Uh, but it’s just like, is this really interesting balance between like, this is the church, but then like the church is also removed from society and like, what does that look like?

[00:17:25] I know that’s on the main goal of a movie, but they definitely touch on that quite a bit is just like an ongoing motif of, as they explore that Sony is a kid, but also just some of the scenes are just outlandishly funny. And for like for absolutely no reason, it’s just like, that’s absurd. I’m laughing now.

[00:17:42] I don’t understand it. It’s absurd. I think like a better executed, um, like in kind of like the style, I think it was like more of a better executed the pulling dynamite in terms of that, like, this is absurd, but this is funny.

[00:17:58] Emily: Yeah. I’m not going to argue with you that there’s gotta be a better executed Napoleon dynamite out there.

[00:18:03] I don’t even care if people send me hate mail. I remember seeing the Polian dynamite when it came out and I remember thinking. Uh, cause I I’ve seen it by the time I saw it. It had already gotten, it was already being built up. Like it wasn’t like to its maximum point of buildup yet, but it was starting.

[00:18:25] Um, I

[00:18:26] Andrew: see, I was past the threshold of a Indy.

[00:18:29] Emily: I was like, there was some funny stuff in there, but.

[00:18:35] Andrew: I think our, I remember watching my weight in the movies over. I don’t understand like what the plot resolution was.

[00:18:41] Emily: I think it was just be yourself. I think that was the message. And that’s a beautiful message, but sure.

[00:18:47] Andrew: It was super sharp. Super funny. I, I still have it actually.

[00:18:52] Emily: I think it might be honestly, it might be funny funnier to me now as an adult, but I think like, as like a teenager, I was like that.

[00:19:02] So it was a fine movie. That was fine. And then people just wouldn’t stop quoting it. It just ruined it for me. Like any, any semblance of like, I enjoyed that was destroyed, but people just being up noxious, I can’t think of many movies, like, or even TV shows. I thought he, I think people who like quote the office religiously are less of noxious and people who quoted in the Polian dynamite, religiously.

[00:19:32] Andrew: Um, Alrighty. Well then I’ll probably just keep the fact that I had a vote for Pedro shirt growing up, uh, to myself,

[00:19:41] Emily: the shirts. I didn’t care about it. It was like 80 people go, gosh,

[00:19:47] Andrew: deployed, give you some thoughts.

[00:19:51] Emily: Yeah. Give me a dose still or whatever.

[00:19:58] Andrew: Make yourself your own damn case study.

[00:20:01] Emily: Come eat that Lord.

[00:20:03] I actually, I liked, I liked the scenes with Tina. I liked the scenes of the lamb. I thought the Lama was

[00:20:10] Andrew: the one that was a great break scene. And Rico was, I

[00:20:14] Emily: like uncle Rico is my favorite

[00:20:16] Andrew: uncle Rico. Some have the most dynamic character in the movie. Yeah. Which is strange,

[00:20:23] Emily: but maybe not growing up around Mormons, maybe effected my ability to like understand some of the things.

[00:20:34] No, there no Mormon characters in that movie, but it’s my understanding that it’s kind of like a Mormon, a static. I might’ve,

[00:20:43] Andrew: I don’t

[00:20:43] Emily: know. I think it just like, I don’t know. I got that vibe. I get that vibe as an adult, after having. Been around more Mormons, but, or understanding it more. I don’t know. Now, now I feel like it did.

[00:21:01] Andrew: I, I just don’t, I don’t know where you’re going with that. I really don’t understand.

[00:21:06] Emily: Oh man. Do you wanna know the last thing I Googled was no it’s surround sound capitalized. I had to do that for an article is like a surround sound, always capitalized. It’s never Mormon. Oh, yeah, it’s not a Mormon movie, but it safe to assume Napoleon is a Mormon.

[00:21:27] Okay.

[00:21:29] Andrew: I’ve never considered that. That’s interesting.

[00:21:32] Emily: It Napoleon dynamite, examines, Mormon struggles with embodiment. What? Hmm.

[00:21:44] Hmm.

[00:21:48] Layers onions,

[00:21:50] Andrew: onions, suddenly a movie with no plot is more complex than I ever realized.

[00:21:55] Emily: No, I mean, embody embodiment. Yeah. That’s not far from like kind of how I felt about it.

[00:22:05] Andrew: Cool. I’m going to need to.

[00:22:09] Emily: Think about that for awhile,

[00:22:11] Andrew: I’m going to just later tonight, get a six pack and sit down and watch it in a notepad.

[00:22:17] Six

[00:22:18] Emily: pets, read an article, maybe just Google and read one of an article. One of the articles about that. It’s too easy.

[00:22:27] Andrew: Anyways. Oh my gosh. Thank you for our listeners for listening to this music related podcast.

[00:22:33] Emily: Sorry. Did you hear about, did you watch that, um, that, that he series on Netflix called murder among the Mormons?

[00:22:41] No. Oh my God. One. It was so good, but two, it was, seems to have been directed by the same guy direction employee.

[00:22:49] Andrew: What does he have against

[00:22:50] Emily: Mormons? I assume he is. I feel like the people who, the people who are most like it’s like any religion, the people who are most like critical of it used to be it and grew up in it and are now like, I don’t like that anymore.

[00:23:12] the director of the Polian dynamite made a movie about a Mormon murderer.

[00:23:20] But also murderer among the Mormons is not really anti-Mormon at all. It’s a very, it’s very good.

[00:23:27] Andrew: I liked your, I guess you could say things are getting

[00:23:31] Emily: pretty serious also. Can I just think Lance Skiles from dog devices for giving me so many stickers stickers.

[00:23:43] Andrew: Thanks,

[00:23:43] Emily: Lance. Yeah. After we filmed the episode with, um, Tia and Jason and, um, uh, at, sorry, hold on. Oh, at, um, Fanny’s um, we went to east side music supply and just happened at Phillip Carter land. Skiles micro made of audio and the fellows who were repping, um, uh, red Panda were all there. And so it was so sailor who works at east side music.

[00:24:11] So that’s less exciting, but I just wanted to shout out, Hey, She’s cool. She’s a cool lady.

[00:24:17] Andrew: Ma I do wish I had gone despite how sparse the Nam floor looked. I mean, that looks embarrassingly, sparse. Mm.

[00:24:26] Emily: Yeah, that’s never really about like for, I mean like Ryan Burke was only there one day he filmed a bunch of guitars and then he went to a bunch of guitar shops.

[00:24:37] The next day. Oh, totally. It was, uh, it was about the parties, like little parties, like nobody went to, to the floor who normally would just walk like Zach from my Fest and go it all. Didn’t go. Granted, Karen, didn’t go from big year. Right. Um, Kevin equals didn’t go Scott from string joy. Didn’t go. Um,

[00:25:00] Andrew: but I’m assuming they were present at after party type events.

[00:25:04] Emily: I’m really sorry. I didn’t see. I didn’t see Scott. I saw almost the other people. Um, yeah, Gibson. I don’t know if they’ll ever show at summer Nam again, and they have a showroom two blocks away, right. I’m sure they’ll always have some sort of presence, but I don’t think they’ll actually like, hold their guitars over.

[00:25:24] It doesn’t make any sense. Cause they can do their own panels there. They have a little stage and do their performances. Apparently one of the Friday night. The Thursday night, um, shaky matches performed for, uh, some dealers at the Gibson showroom,

[00:25:41] Andrew: our friends, Sarah that, yeah.

[00:25:43] Emily: Yeah. And I saw hailstorm. That was really good, man.

[00:25:48] I I’ve never seen Lizzie Hale live. I think I love her.

[00:25:54] Andrew: No, she’s great. She did AI. She did a song or two, a winter Nam, 2020, the, the give some party. And that was pretty.

[00:26:04] Uh, very aggressive and like the most wholesome way.

[00:26:08] Emily: She’s very aggressive is one word. I would say athletic. I think everything about her performance was athletic from her playing to her singing. Cause I don’t know how you sing like that for more than a few minutes. It’s so full throated, but not in an upper Reddick kind of way.

[00:26:28] It’s like, how do you always have that ground? Yeah, how it was, it was really amazing. Like, oh man, my she’s my hero. Like, damn, that was really cool. I love that kind of music. I just never listened to it. Like that’s such a fun kind of music to see live too. And yeah. And then I remembered how weird Nashville crowds can be.

[00:26:50] It’s like everyone at the front was like so into it than everyone. And I was farther back cause I had a knee injury and I needed to like lean against

[00:26:56] Andrew: something.

[00:26:59] Emily: Oh, God. No, but, um, uh, my, my friend and I’m like, can we just kind of go to the back? I like to kind of lean against the back wall and they’re always already a bunch of it kind of leaning.

[00:27:07] So my friend’s tall, my friend Matt was tall and he, uh, he just, you know, kinda stands next to me and this couple who they’re shorter people, which is, you know, fine, they tap on the shoulder and they’re like, what are you doing, man? And I look around I’m like you intentionally went to the very back of the venue.

[00:27:28] Like, I’m sorry, he’s tall, but like, he would let you stand in front. They weren’t leaning on the wall or anything. They were just kind of toward the back. It’s just kind of like, I forget about that aspect aspect of like live music that like, I, I feel bad for people who are not tall. And I feel people who feel kind of, for people who are tall, because they know everybody hates them at shows.

[00:27:50] They know everybody does, but they can’t help, but they want to be like, they want to see the show also. But like, I, you know, maybe you should move if like, maybe you shouldn’t just, maybe you should just accept that you’re gonna stand at the back of the menu. You’re not going to be able to see very well because you’ve chosen to stand back there.

[00:28:08] Right. There were plenty of spots and there are plenty of spots in the middle of the venue. So when we got there.

[00:28:16] Andrew: Yeah. But that’s, that’s not where the cool kids stand. Okay.

[00:28:21] Emily: No, the cool kids stand at the front. Right.

[00:28:24] Andrew: I agree. Cause that’s usually where I am. It shows pressed up against the rails of like 300 people behind me pushing forward, trying to break my swing.

[00:28:31] Yeah. Yeah.

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[00:30:03] That’s a lot of fun. And we go off of

[00:30:06] Andrew: that. Yeah, well, I like I’ve had such a busy week with my day job, uh, and that I’ve been trying to get up and go to the gym like three or four days a week before work. Um, Yeah, no, that’s what I was doing the beginning of the episode is like, I need to go to the gym this morning.

[00:30:22] I got to get my heart rate. Um, so no, I like just like D the grind Monday through Friday and the, one of the first things they do when I get out of bed. Like, I don’t know if this is healthy or not, but like, I just open up my phone and the first thing opened up this discord and just like scroll through, read all the messages divest from the east coast.

[00:30:40] Cause they’re all up there all three hours ahead. And they’ve all been messaging and catching up and like I missed yet. Um, Yeah. So I’ll check that. Um, just as part of my wake-up routine, like that cup of coffee

[00:30:52] Emily: or anything like a bridge, it’s one of the less toxic parts of my wake up routine checking Twitter is probably one of the more toxic,

[00:31:00] Andrew: um, I don’t check Twitter.

[00:31:04] Hardly ever. I took Facebook off of my phone and I logged into that once or twice a week now. Um, I saw the thread of the year, so I’m there. I’m like, oh, wait, I want to respond to this. But it’s been four days since the last person comments I’m responding anyways. Uh, and then Instagram, um, I’m not checking.

[00:31:29] Very just like I check in like scroll, like the first couple of posts, and then I’ve got a couple of close friends reels that I watched through and that’s about it,

[00:31:40] Emily: which is to say, if you want Andrew’s attention, need to join at the $5 level or above.

[00:31:47] Andrew: Guaranteed to respond. Um, outside of that, it’s, it’s hit and miss with me.

[00:31:52] It’s a crap

[00:31:52] Emily: shoot. Quick shoot. Oh gosh. I still can’t believe that I used the wrong microphone at the beginning of the

[00:32:00] Andrew: episode. It’s been, it’s been a

[00:32:05] Emily: week. Oh morning. Oh, it’s been a week. That’s true.

[00:32:08] Andrew: That’s fair. Yeah. So

[00:32:13] Emily: kinda sucks. Being busy

[00:32:15] Andrew: all the time. Cause he does suck, which, but that said, I get to go with work sometimes for team bonding and they paid for it.

[00:32:22] Yeah.

[00:32:23] Emily: Team bonding. Um, I, I don’t know. I’m just, I’ve been kind of busy. It’ll it’ll. It’ll clear up a little bit coming up, but, um, I mean, I have a gig coming up on August 7th at the blue moon Tavern with the band Jer. I’m pretty excited. I’m playing bass. I don’t actually know if I’ve talked about it on the podcast, but I’m doing that.

[00:32:51] Um, am I blanking,

[00:32:53] Andrew: Tom Kelly was saying that you should wear a, I should track down a splasher shirt for you to wear flat, right? I don’t know

[00:33:03] Emily: why Tom, why?

[00:33:05] Andrew: I don’t remember, but I think he suggested it. Maybe it was fish

[00:33:10] Emily: related. What, sure. What does Jeff guts to do with fish?

[00:33:16] Andrew: It was like several days ago in the chat.

[00:33:22] That does remind me though. I, my, my buddy, who who’d made that design. That’s it’s a long story. He he’s like, Hey dude, can I sell a third Fox hetero? I’m like, okay, maybe so, uh, if you’d like, if you’d like the shirt, let me know. Um, and I’ll maybe he’ll convince me to put it in the shop. Maybe not even wearing right now.

[00:33:45] This is terrible promo

[00:33:48] Emily: friends.

[00:33:49] Andrew: I am wearing a different friend shirt. It’s another specifically

[00:33:52] Emily: French French shirt. Not a friend’s shirt.

[00:33:56] Andrew: Yeah. I, I th I was looking through my, uh, shirt drawer this morning. I was like, you know what? I want to wear a shirt from someone that like, I was sad about not getting to see it Nim.

[00:34:03] Oh, so I picked this one. No, it’s the pity party. COVID back in full swing and you’ve got a lot going on. I’ve also had a lot going on. I guess the question that I think topics wise would be relevant is holy heck in what did it look like to a self care in this post pandemic music world in terms of balanced overload, everything’s happening all at once.

[00:34:33] Emily: Why are you asking me I’m bad at it

[00:34:36] Andrew: because I’m also bad.

[00:34:38] Emily: I cried. I’ve cried the past two days. Why are you asking me?

[00:34:45] Andrew: Uh, I, I can’t say I’ve cried the last couple of days, but I can say that I’m trying to fight the whole, like, I’m just going to quit everything and hide in a hole. I’m going to get home from work and do that.

[00:34:56] I know that’s not the right

[00:34:57] Emily: answer. I cried because I couldn’t pick my aunts up from the airport because I’m recording this instead.

[00:35:08] How’d that make you feel

[00:35:10] Andrew: honored and a little guilty.

[00:35:14] Emily: No, I feel guilty. You should feel fine. That’s just the airport. And I cried. And then like, I was done crying, but then I got the hiccups and I was really embarrassed. I was like in front of people, like my brother and my mom. And it’s like, Emily, just like a couple of tears.

[00:35:30] And then I get the heck. I was like,

[00:35:36] it was awful. I’m like, I wholly do this twice a year

[00:35:40] Andrew: now. No, I, I only get the hiccups, literally only if I’m eating spicy food.

[00:35:49] Emily: Are there a lot of people like that?

[00:35:51] Andrew: I don’t know what it is is, but like, it doesn’t even have to be terribly spicy. It just has to have like, just enough of a hot pepper and I just go into hiccups and then like, once I get over and fine for the rest of the meal, but it’s just like on the front end of that meal, like, I’m like, I know I’m going to enjoy this, but like, it’s going to, I know it’s going to kick in like 30 seconds after the first bite.

[00:36:11] I have no idea.

[00:36:13] Emily: That sounds really awesome. I like, I think I can think of few things worse than like having like the hiccups or like the burps after eating something that’s too spicy because I just like pops up a little bit. I remember my, the guy I dated in college, he, he ex ex uh, express a little too much hubris going to Prince’s hot chicken for the first time he ordered the hot and, uh, the rest of the day, I think it was like, we went to see a Prairie home compassion, and he’s just like burping up the hot chicken and he just.

[00:36:49] Andrew: I feel like that’s like, that’s like a two-step process. Like you burp and then it hits you again and you try not to gag.

[00:36:55] Emily: And he really wasn’t. He was like,

[00:37:00] oh, I got ’em all. And now you have to sit through a Prairie home companion, which I’ll be, it was fun. But also like, you don’t want to sit through anything, like when you’re, when you’re in that way. You just want to be sitting like at your dining room table with a glass of milk, like you don’t want to do anything.

[00:37:20] Andrew: Right. Right. You drink enough milk. And then you’re in the milk was a bad choice. State of mind and or

[00:37:27] Emily: you, you just barf. Like I did last time I drank too much smoke cause I eat too much spicy food. My father called me the next day after we had that hot way show. And he’s like, I know you bought, I was like, why did I borrow?

[00:37:39] He’s like, could you drink half a gallon?

[00:37:43] Andrew: No, just Tums. Tums. Yeah. If after you finished it up, um, let

[00:37:53] like

[00:37:55] Andrew: anyways. Alright. No self care. I don’t know. I don’t have any strong answers. I think the one thing that’s made the most difference for me is spending significantly less time in social media to allow me to balance out the other things I’ve got going on.

[00:38:09] Yeah.

[00:38:09] Emily: Um, and the social media I do consume now is like Tik TOK, honestly.

[00:38:16] Andrew: Yeah. I don’t have a Ted talk by do admit, um, inevitably Instagram reels just enough. No. I would say two thirds of the reels that go through my Instagram are like actually relevant and assault. Third of them are just kitten.

[00:38:31] Emily: Yeah. The kitten videos on Tik TOK, this the comedy ones.

[00:38:34] I like the ones where people make fun of bad customers that they’ve had. There’s a guy who did a shipping store series. He’s like, hello, welcome to the shipping store. And then I liked that guy. There’s a woman who does the characters. Her thing is called me Krish. They’re all very famous people know who these people are.

[00:38:52] And, um, there’s one that I like, and I just forget the name. There are a couple like this, that it’s just like a contractor explaining how to do things, but then he’s like really profane while he’s doing it. It’s amazing. He’s like, if you’re a stupid asshole, like pocket doors is how you solve fucking pocket door.

[00:39:12] Let me tell you, we hate fucking pocket doors. As soon as you just got Jerry rig the things you just want to get the fuck home and then more vulgar stuff. It’s really funny. I appreciate it. And then I learned something that’s a great way for me to learn something. Someone just being like grumpily I don’t know why I love watching people.

[00:39:29] Grumpily explain things. I helps me retain it because it’s like a more interesting way than me. Okay. So then you. Drill the hole in the wall. And then you, you hammer in and making the best motions. You drill the hole in the wall and the hammer and the Stine. And then you drill the thing into the stuff and you hang the thing on the guy and just try not to laugh.

[00:39:57] Andrew: Nope. I’m just averting my eyes. Um,

[00:40:03] Yeah. I mean, yeah, no, I’ve definitely gotten some enjoyment out of that. Um, although I I’ve, I do admit I found myself in the, in the, uh, the doom scroll a couple of times.

[00:40:15] Emily: Yeah, I’ve, I’ve just been kind of avoiding it. Like I’ll look at the thing and I’ll be like, why the fuck is Mitch McConnell trending? I don’t care.

[00:40:21] Uh I’m like, I would assume it’s because he is an evil warlock. Who’s got no sense of humanity and soul. Um, and then I switched to just something else, but I think what’s been helping me lately is I just been kind of firm about saying no to stuff and that’s been huge and it’s really hard, but when you’re as tired as I am.

[00:40:43] Saying no gets a lot easier. And the first couple of times you say after the first couple of times, you say, no, it gets easier. Like, I don’t know why I said yes to this base gig, but I’ve been saying no, like I’ve been saying no to like weekly practices. I’ll be like, I’ll practice three times before the show.

[00:41:02] I don’t need eight practices to learn eight times. I don’t know, that’s basically car, uh, you know, I’ll just learn the songs. I’ll give you three. I’ll give you three. I’ll give you three practices. I’ll show up on other stuff I promise. But, um, so that’s something saying no to some unpaid stuff. Glary guitars reached out.

[00:41:27] They were like, we love your trick. They send me some formulaic kind of email. And then, uh, I said my demo rates, uh, for the demo plus product, if you want to send the products back. And it said, since they’re sending free products as recorded videos, only offering free products as recorded videos, there is no budget.

[00:41:52] If you can accept, please let me know what you think. Thank you. Blair electric guitar. And then I’m like, I don’t want to glary a guitar. There’s I have no one for this. I do not want this in my house. I do not want this in my life. So responded. Well, I understand that it’s not fair to the brands who do pay me to do free demos.

[00:42:06] I will gladly take payment and ship to Qatar back to which they respond. Hi again, usually Larry does not need to return the guitar, but no budget for this activity. We are really sorry. Please let us, I love this. Cause you just know this is like a translation issue. Please let me know if you were willing to cooperate.

[00:42:23] Andrew: Oh

[00:42:24] Emily: no. Are you willing to cooperate now? And I, like, I knew what they meant. It was. Yeah. Yeah. It was a very, this was a very polite exchange.

[00:42:37] Andrew: Right, right. But the way it’s translated definitely comes across as like, like I’m just mad. I thought women were more submissive than this.

[00:42:46] Emily: I just say no to stuff like that.

[00:42:47] Or just being firm about like, I don’t want more shit in my life. I want more shit in my life. I don’t think Larry makes great guitars from what I’ve seen. I do not want that guitar.

[00:43:04] Yeah. That’s kind of where I draw the line. If it’s like, if it’s especially for guitars, like normally I would do a trade for a guitar because like it’s a guitar, but if it’s like, if it’s basically like an alley express quality guitar, I don’t want it. If I wanted it, I will do the video for trade for the guitar.

[00:43:23] I do not want his alley express. Telecaster. I’ve seen Ryan Burke’s video. I think that’s enough. Yep. He gave that guitar to a guy in a parking lot.

[00:43:40] He just sees a guy he’s like in his car. He’s like, Hey man, come over here. You want this guitar? Like the sketch ass, the sketchiest thing I’ve ever seen in my life. You want see some puppies now I’ve had a good time.

[00:43:58] Andrew: Yeah. Oh yeah, no, there’s a balloon going down to a gutter. You should follow

[00:44:02] Emily: it. Should I say yes. Do you want a glary? I should have asked.

[00:44:10] Andrew: Yeah, actually, no. Could you do all the work for me so I could get something for it? Um,

[00:44:14] Emily: I mean, I’ve done it before. I haven’t done it before.

[00:44:21] Mr. Cod go. Mr. Walrus Macco series.

[00:44:28] Andrew: Uh, although that does remind me, I, I, um, well, my dad, uh, was visiting. We, we played through all the, the walrus stuff and he was having, uh, uh, uh, we plugged in the, the R one and he’s like, that’s so many knobs and switches and like, Okay, then I’m going to leave with the night sky on the shelf.

[00:44:50] No, she’s not ready for that one. He’s not ready. He’s very much like a, oh, you guys aren’t ready for that one, but your kids are gonna love it.

[00:45:00] Emily: Big, that energy, you know, it’s pretty problematic to, yeah. Nevermind. I can take it back. Nope, it’s fine. The guitar is not right. It’s not right.

[00:45:11] Andrew: It’s not, no, that says I’ve got the backs of the future box set on VHS.

[00:45:16] Um, and I’m proud of that fact. I don’t have a VHS player. I don’t even have a TV, but I don’t have a TV. That’s another thing that’s been helping me quite a bit is I just don’t like come home and watch TV, man. I love watching TV. We haven’t had a TV. Yeah. Four or five April, may, June, July coming up just, yeah, we’re almost at four months without a CV.

[00:45:43] Um, so like I’ve got like obviously my computer aid. And so like the only thing we’ve been, um, most have been watching is bad batch.

[00:45:49] Emily: I have this very large computer that would work as a television. If you would like it, you can have.

[00:45:56] Andrew: I, I don’t actually want wine. We we’ve been happy with that. Like, we’ve got an iPad.

[00:46:02] Emily: It’s a very large dual monitor as well.

[00:46:05] Andrew: I’ve already got two monitors and a laptop on my desk right in front of me is so big. We’ll talk. We’ll talk to eat. Um,

[00:46:14] Emily: it’s so big. It’s so stupid. Stupid.

[00:46:19] Andrew: Uh, but yeah, no, I mean, that’s also been helping me quite a bit in terms of like, I don’t know, maybe, maybe that’s not helping.

[00:46:25] Maybe that’s what I need in life is to spend more time relaxing, but I’m relaxing,

[00:46:30] Emily: but it’s just like everyone relaxes differently. I like to relax by watching like trash TV with Rick. I mean, or like cracking open a book or playing guitar and, uh, some people like gardening or laying in a hammock and just not thinking about anything.

[00:46:47] Some people just like ripping a bong and watching true crime, you know, everybody’s different.

[00:46:55] Andrew: That song is terrible time. Well, to me, to me sounds like a great way to like find myself in like paranoid paralysis.

[00:47:07] Emily: So I think that, okay, so as far as far as true crime goes, I think that it kind of starts that way.

[00:47:17] And then you kind of, I don’t want to say you get numb to it so much as like. Alec. I want to say it’s comforting, but I think it just does kind of make you feel a little bit less alone in the world to know that this is like something that scares other people also is fascinating. Everybody loves, like everybody loves a mystery.

[00:47:39] Everybody loves like questions that don’t have answers like Michelle and I spent part of the weekend watching a doctor death on peacock, which is based on the podcast, which is based on this. Absolutely this murderous surgeon and, um, Texas it’s it’s gruesome. It’s variable done. It makes you go, oh,

[00:48:09] Andrew: do you want to know in the last time was that I listened to anything true crime, really?

[00:48:12] Emily: Was it when we were in the car on the way to Yakima,

[00:48:18] Andrew: like three years ago. And I still have nightmares about some of the things I heard.

[00:48:23] Emily: I’m sorry. That was a bad one too.

[00:48:27] Andrew: Yeah, though, that was gruesome. I,

[00:48:29] Emily: the one where the guy’s brakes failed and then they prosecuted him, but it seems likely that it was just the brake stuff.

[00:48:37] Andrew: Well, there’s also like the teenagers in the woods one and like, yeah, no, like I’ve I forgot what the teenagers in the woods, one that was so messed up. Uh, yeah, no, I it’s not for me. I can’t do it, but

[00:48:48] Emily: they are the forest. Get a job, make your own money. Stay out of the forest.

[00:49:00] Andrew: I, uh, well, well, I’d like to spend more times outdoors, outdoors. I did hang up string lights to the back. Oh, that’s nice. Yeah, we got a, no, we got, uh, like, uh, those 10 gallon home Depot buckets, uh, and someone had already done this for us. So we got this rig for free, but we got four to 10 gallon home Depot buckets filled with concrete with a 12 foot, an inch and a half steel pipe.

[00:49:24] And, uh, so we got four of those for free off of Facebook marketplace. And then in our backyard, like, like across from her house on the other side of the patio, we just dug down like 20 inches deep into the clay, dropped the buckets in and filled it in and then hung the lights from that. Um,

[00:49:40] Emily: smart with the concrete in the bucket.

[00:49:42] It’s a lot easier than actually laying in concrete and. Pouring concrete into

[00:49:47] Andrew: it’s, especially easier. Cause someone else had already done all of that for us. All I had to do is dig a hole, put some gravel in there, tamp it down and drop the bucket. So, uh, so we did that. Although patio furniture was just like sold out or just scalp to the max and like,

[00:50:01] Emily: yeah, we were going to upgrade our kind of patio.

[00:50:04] Well, we weren’t going to, I don’t want to say upgrade. We were going to change our patio furniture just to like. Suit our needs. Cause like when we got the house, I was like, we’re going to have so many people over. We’re going to get the biggest table is going to expand. And then I’m like, we never have people over.

[00:50:21] We just need like to seat for. So we just need to get a different, a different table. Like what we have is fine. It works. It can see it as little as, as few as four, but it’s not the best use of that space by a lot.

[00:50:37] Andrew: Sure. Sure. I think I’m going to Costco sells like those little table, the, the fold-up tables, like just the plastic ones.

[00:50:46] I think maybe I just need to get a couple of those and just get one

[00:50:49] Emily: of them. I hate those things. I just, I want that thing out of my life.

[00:50:53] Andrew: They’re ugly, but they do their job. And at a certain point, like I could spend like a little, like a relatively small amount of money on that. Just for something to have friends over in our backyard, under the string lights and just bring out the kitchen.

[00:51:05] Or I could pay like 1500 bucks for a scalped out a patio set that seat six, that it could leave out there indefinitely.

[00:51:16] Emily: I mean, yeah. That, but the patio furniture that you look, Hey, this is the guitar podcast. Yeah.

[00:51:23] Andrew: In terms of self care that I think for me, like just getting to see friends is super important, but somehow also like way more exhausting it was before, because I’m just not used to it.

[00:51:33] Emily: Yeah. I think it’s a lot of people, especially, it’s been hard to kind of wean yourself back into being around people. I

[00:51:43] Andrew: saw someone and I saw someone at a wedding last month and I was like, dude, it’s so good to see you. Like, I’m busy, like through the July 4th weekend, but like, let’s hang out after that.

[00:51:53] Straight up, have not texted him, um, back. And it’s

[00:51:58] it’s

[00:51:58] Emily: the end of the month. I, I, aye. I did that to Sean Crawford. I was like, oh, well I get out soon. And then just like life happened and there’ve been so many cases of like, they’re just like that. I’m like, I just. I’m out of energy and I don’t, I don’t even know if I even ever particularly had that much, but, uh, yes, my, my, um, intent definitely outweighs my, um, ability.

[00:52:31] To kind of, especially to lead that kind of thing. Like if someone else was messaging me with like specific plans, I’d be like, easy. We will do this. But if I have to be the one that’s like making the plans, aye. I’m like a deflated balloon. It’s definitely that idea of your eyes being bigger than your stomach.

[00:52:56] Andrew: Oh, absolutely.

[00:52:58] Emily: And then, and then like, So I’ve got Sunday crush and that’s, you know, that’s the thing I do every single week. So that’s art taking, you know, those are, these are my closest friends, so they’re taking their fair share before anybody else gets anything. And then there’s, I have obviously want to have time with rec and my family.

[00:53:18] So, you know, definitely try to see my brother at least every other week. So that’s already like, A lot of the free time that any adult in their thirties would have, uh, in addition to, you know, freelance work and work work and the podcast and the demo channel and other musical projects. Like I’m just trying to be realistic about that because, you know, I forgot I straight up forgot, but it, it was like a switch got flipped.

[00:53:52] And it went from having no plans to my weekends being booked through September.

[00:53:59] Andrew: My weekends aren’t necessarily book books, but every time like I wake up on a Monday, go cool. Make it through five days of work and I’ve got no plans for this weekend. I can get a little bit of work done around the house and then just relax, maybe crack a beer and sit on the back porch and just enjoy the fresh air.

[00:54:15] And by Thursday I’m like, cool. I don’t know what I’m going to sleep this week. Yeah.

[00:54:21] Emily: So that’s exactly how it feels,

[00:54:24] Andrew: which that said I should probably, I actually need to get stuff done today should probably, yeah,

[00:54:27] Emily: we should. We should wrap. Cause I got,

[00:54:30] Andrew: yeah, let me think. Let me think through, uh, self care. I have been drinking like less than a third of what I was prior,

[00:54:38] Emily: also drinking and drinking more of this water.

[00:54:41] Andrew: Yeah. And I’m hydrating a lot more. I’m only having like four drinks a week, um, right now, which is. Less than I was previously. Um, uh, yeah, so I’m doing that. Even getting into the gym. I’m not doing a great job of sleeping, um, more than six hours a night, but,

[00:55:07] Emily: um, I’m just not doing scrolling. I’m saying no more. I’m letting my brain Vedge out a little I’m. Not doing the best job

[00:55:25] Andrew: and sometimes that’s okay. Yeah.

[00:55:28] Emily: I changed my screensaver on my computer. Just text that says be nicer to yourself. I’m doing daily texts therapy though. That’s kind of helpful.

[00:55:40] Andrew: So anyhow.

[00:55:41] Um, oh, and then the other thing that I’m actually getting a lot of life out of is slowly putting together this wiggles cover.

[00:55:49] Emily: Okay. Uh, we’re so close. We’re $10 away. Support some patriarchy to get Andrew to do this cover, and then we’ll have to figure out what the next goal is, which will be more I’ll figure

[00:56:00] Andrew: out something.

[00:56:00] I am working on it in. Yeah, I don’t, I’ve got like three different ways that I want to build this out, but it’s only like three chords for the whole

[00:56:09] Emily: song. Yeah. It sounds like the wiggles

[00:56:12] Andrew: is also like, part of me is like, oh, this makes it, like, this makes it a clean slate for me to work with. The other part of me is like, it’d be nice.

[00:56:19] I, if there was more to work with, um, cause it’s anyways, but I’m having fun with it. Um, And there’s like three or ye different versions that they’ve done over the years that are on YouTube and they’re all slightly different. So I’m trying to pull together the different, like, um, the different lead lines and stuff.

[00:56:37] They’ve got playing in the background.

[00:56:39] Emily: He lines, he says lead lines. He says, oh, cause he goes to church. I do go to church. That’s a lead line. I have to ask either you or Zach, what a lead line was once I still don’t really know what it is. Is it the melody.

[00:56:58] Andrew: So it’s not the melody. It’s like, it’s not the harmony either.

[00:57:01] It’s just like a note. It’s like another thing in the background. It’s not necessarily a friend.

[00:57:06] Emily: It’s still the lead line. Nobody can, it’s like Jen, actually somebody on, on youth, in a YouTube comment, explain what Jen was really well. And I was like, thank you for finally explaining what gent is like. They

[00:57:20] Andrew: actually to explain it.

[00:57:22] Emily: They did a great job. So thank you to that YouTube commentary who explained, who actually like explained Jen perfectly. I really appreciated that. I had been wondering for you.

[00:57:34] Andrew: Well, anyhow, um, yeah, wish me luck as I am planning out the drum track, which I’m going to have to program into logic myself. Cause I don’t have a drum set.

[00:57:45] Emily: Yes. All right. Well, I asked her to go, Rick just got home. So it’s going to get loud. Well, I shall well to everyone out there, please like comment, subscribe the review rate, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Thanks for understanding until next time. My name is Emily

[00:58:04] Andrew: and my name is Andrew goodbye.