Get Offset Episode 154: Guitar Stonk Market

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[00:00:00] Andrew: welcome to the get offset podcast. My name is Andrew and my

[00:00:17] Emily: name is Emily.

[00:00:19] Andrew: And, uh, what a, what a week?

[00:00:24] Emily: This week felt long to me too, dude. I’m just gonna, I’m gonna say that.

[00:00:30] Andrew: Yeah, definitely the kind of week where like I get home and just like sit in the couch, like next thing I know, it’s my bedtime. And like, wait, what?

[00:00:38] Emily: Yeah. I haven’t really felt that since I started working from home before the pandemic, but I definitely remember that feeling when I still had the commute and it is one of my least favorite feelings on the planet. Like getting home, like, especially when I would get home around like seven or something.

[00:00:56] Yeah. Then I’d make dinner. I maybe watch like an episode of a TV show with Rick and then we’d be like, we’re tired.

[00:01:07] Andrew: Yep. Yeah. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Yep. I feel like I get off of work at seven these days.

[00:01:16] Emily: I mean, at least you don’t have to wake up at five to go.

[00:01:19] Andrew: That’s true. That’s true. I wake up at seven to go to the gym.

[00:01:23] Uh, so like my days front loaded with personal stuff, and then I basically go. I’m out. Uh, I get more done that way, but it’s still disorienting, like get home and be like, and I’ve been going for 12 hours, 13 hours straight by the time I make it home. If I stay a little late to work and, uh,

[00:01:43] Emily: yeah. Yeah.

[00:01:45] Getting things done in the morning takes a different level of life. Uh, get up and go like literal, get up and go, um, that, you know, it’s, it’s really hard to hold yourself to it because, you know, especially as it gets dark, cause Seattle people was talking about like the winter and the rain in Seattle and that’s part of it, but really just being so far north and people, I know people get on us about like it being very like Seattle driven content sometimes, but that’s just where we are.

[00:02:12] So that’s how we talk, uh, up here. It does it. Dark, like it’s dark in the morning and then it gets dark very early. There is that, that old favorite tweet? Hello darkness. My old friend. Why are you here? It’s 4:00 PM, uh, literal. And it actually won’t the sun won’t set after 7:00 PM again in Seattle until March 20, 22.

[00:02:38] Andrew: I’m sorry. Yeah. Yeah. It’s probably time to start taking my vitamin D supplements.

[00:02:42] Emily: Yeah. Time to break out the, um, the, the alarm clocks that we have that like mimic the sun rising

[00:02:52] Andrew: most has got one of those.

[00:02:53] Emily: Yeah. I have one, I have one in it it’s it was really nice when I had to commute, but now that I don’t have to commute, it’s not as essential.

[00:03:07] Andrew: Not yet the same alarm, black Ivan rockin census. Freshman year of college. It’s one of those like little, like, just like the red led panel or whatever edge. And it’s the most obnoxious thing on the planet, but yeah, it’s one of it target waking me up release. It was at one point in time. I think that’s changed a bit with parenthood, but either way I don’t want to oversleep.

[00:03:34] Emily: I can’t imagine if I had to live with one of those people who asked to Sutton. And I’m sorry if listeners, if you’re one of those people who like sets an alarm clock every 15 minutes, starting at like an hour and a half before they had to wake up, because they’re worried about these people. I’m sorry, dude.

[00:03:51] That’s like, I had a roommate like that once when I was in college and it was like every nine minutes, she would like, she was like the snooze header and, and her alarm clock was John Mellick hands hurts so good. But it was on such an awkward transition was hurt. So good. Come on, baby. They make it so good.

[00:04:13] Go on baby. Then make it hurt. So. Yeah, it was really awful.

[00:04:20] Andrew: My college roommate, uh, his alarm clock was Cassius tick-tock Jesus. Wake up in the morning. P

[00:04:29] Emily: Diddy. The words, the word. No, that was worse that my, my roommate had and I love Brandy Carlisle. But this one, this is just so jarring to wake up to that part in the song, the story where she goes

[00:04:46] cause she’s just like just, she just, it’s just such a. Oh, my gosh. Is it just someone like really full throat singing and you’re like happening? I thought someone was screaming in an adjacent dorm room. The first time I heard, like, literally someone’s in trouble.

[00:05:07] No, it’s just it’s Brandi Carlile. I was like, oh my God. It’s like, I was also

[00:05:12] Andrew: asleep. Stop, drop, and roll reflex that we all learned in elementary school.

[00:05:16] Emily: I was like, someone’s attacked. Someone’s being attacked. I was

[00:05:19] Andrew: like, flip the tables, get under the doorframe,

[00:05:22] Emily: like rolling out of my, my bed. I’m like, yeah.

[00:05:26] Must help woman. The call police call the Beepo. No, no Batten down the hatches. Oh my God. Now that was, that was jarring. I’ve already finished my coffee.

[00:05:47] Andrew: I just started on my coffee. Like I got up this morning. Um, and then I just worked for my phone for like the last two hours in bed sitting up. Right.

[00:05:56] Emily: You’ve worked from your phone. I read Reddit threads about a new video game. I’m playing called eastward, which is fun, but it’s very linear. And the battle, the battling is pretty clunky, but I really like it. People complain that it’s a lot of dialogue, but I like, I liked that there’s a lot of stories. I just wish it was more like starting valley sometimes, but I like it a lot.

[00:06:20] I’m having a lot of fun.

[00:06:22] Andrew: Thank you. Yeah. It could be fun. Yeah. I was excited for a video game coming out on my birthday, actually the age of empires for something I’ve been looking forward to for a while. And I don’t think I’m going to buy it. It, it just doesn’t look, I don’t know. I’m not sold on it. Yeah.

[00:06:43] They had the open beta last weekend. And I saw some of the gameplay from it like this isn’t no, that like age of impairs too is look like the classic age of impairs three bond. And I’m looking at age of empires for going. Nope. I don’t think, I think age of empires too was just perfection. Can’t improve.

[00:07:01] Yeah. So I’m going to stick with the game that I already own and just keep playing.

[00:07:07] Emily: Yeah, I get that. I get that. I’ve been trying, I’ve been trying to experiment a little bit more video games. Cause Rick and I had just got into such a place where we were watching a shit ton of TV and honestly like as much fun as we have watching, like trash TV.

[00:07:24] I wanted us to play more video games like, and I just feel like it’s, it’s, it’s more fun to be like actively involved in what we’re doing, right.

[00:07:32] Andrew: As opposed to actively killing them or

[00:07:34] Emily: like team building, because like, um, I got us a game called 39 days to Mars and that’s like puzzles that we have to solve together.

[00:07:42] So that’s kind of fun. Um, my friend, chef

[00:07:46] Andrew: Elon Musk is the villain in that

[00:07:48] Emily: game. No, there’s no villain that I can tell. We’ve only gotten past like one level of it so far. Um, and then, you know, there are things that are frustrating about it. Like there’s really no like instructions. So like there, there was a couple where like, oh, like I can figure this out then.

[00:08:09] And then eventually if it’s taking you too long, they give you some pretty deep Pence, so

[00:08:16] Andrew: room type game, or it’s

[00:08:17] Emily: very much like an escape room. I’ve never done this escape room, but it’s what I imagined escape room to be like, now that I think about it, that’s actually great. Um, and, uh, then my friend Shep wasn’t 10, she was like a childhood best friend who I hadn’t seen in six years and she just started.

[00:08:34] Uh, that has her going to Seattle a couple of times a year. So she was in town and she told me about a game called I think called unraveled. And it’s a two person game. So we were playing that and we’ve been playing L a war, which I know is 10 years old. I think I talked about that last time.

[00:08:52] Andrew: All right. So the discord server.

[00:08:56] Emily: Okay. And, uh, Tony Hawk, pro skater one and two are on switch. Yeah. No, it’s got some of the same, it’s like a lot of the same songs, new songs. So, um, Rick had con is a lot better at it than I am. So I’ve been actually really off on watching him play it, but I’m still pretty okay. At like, remembering like where some of the secret tapes are.

[00:09:20] And I’m pretty good at still like getting like some of the letters. And I like getting like the high scores and stuff. Can’t not good at that, but some of the things like getting the skate letters or doing some of those, like I can, I can do that stuff. Okay. So he’s letting me like, go for those challenges while he like gets the 100,000 points or whatever.

[00:09:44] So teamwork makes the dream work. Right? Well, there you go. Yeah. So that’s, that’s how we’ve been killing our time outside of, you know, me with guitar stuff, which I have a lot of what’s news, but we can talk about that.

[00:09:57] Andrew: Well, we’ll talk about it now. That’s fine. I’m boring. I don’t have any news this week.

[00:10:04] It’s just been, I dunno, my what’s new is w uh, nothing’s. No.

[00:10:12] Emily: Okay.

[00:10:13] Andrew: I’ll be fine. Yeah. Every week has to

[00:10:15] Emily: be exciting. Well, thing is I bought the spruce effects and dirge pedal. It’s a fuzz called the astral. Alicia. Um, it’s really versatile. Like I didn’t, it’s like hand in grieve. They’re all different. I don’t know.

[00:10:36] Uh, is the Asher delicious V2? I’ll have a video up on it probably this

[00:10:39] Andrew: week.

[00:10:43] Emily: It kind of sounds like one too, but yeah, it’s, uh, it’s a very mysterious kind of pedal because, uh, instructions are very funny. You know, Brian from spruce is a funny guy and he basically he’s like, I don’t, there’s one, there’s no LEDs. So you don’t really know what’s engaged. You can tell when it’s engaged, but he’s like, yeah, I don’t remember which taco goes, which way.

[00:11:07] You’re not going to know which, which, uh, the, which way the secondary foot switches, uh, and, uh, yeah, the two indicators on the knobs, cause you don’t need them, uh, and, uh, have fun. It is really, really fun. Like it could go from a really gnarly, like fat fuzz to really thin kind of overdrive sounds. I really, really like it.

[00:11:32] I wasn’t. Yeah, I kind of bought it on a whim because I like supporting Brian a lot from spruce effects. And, uh, sometimes he just wants to buy a thing every once in a while. So I wanted to buy this and it did, and I’m really glad. So, uh, yeah, I might try to play this with my, um, my gig on the 30th of October.

[00:12:00] So. Really excited for that. The next thing is I got from space, man. I’m trying to film a demo of this. This weekend is the new Delta two and they’re based in Portland, which I always like. It’s the Delta to harmonic tremolo. So I’m very excited.

[00:12:21] Andrew: Maybe that’s one of your clues for 30 something days of Mars.

[00:12:28] Emily: Uh, 39, 39 days

[00:12:30] Andrew: tomorrow.

[00:12:34] Emily: All right. Jared Leto, Jordan, Jordan, what was his name? And my so-called life. Jordan. That show that just made every teenage girl ever. Well, every older millennial teenage girl really love unavailable. An optical harmonic. Tremolo is a deep feature set and a compact form factor. That’s definitely a compact form factor.

[00:13:00] Indeed. A twist of the innovative lag control allows you to smoothly morph between traditional and harmonic tremolo with infinite rhythmic possibilities, hazy, throbbing, rhythms, and energetic harmonics, swirl, and blend in a culture and a filter. The easing pulsations. That sounds filthy.

[00:13:26] Andrew: Yeah, it was good to say.

[00:13:27] I, that sounds, um, shall we have a content warning in front of this for the children or,

[00:13:34] Emily: oh, it’s never for children. I never checked this content is made for shorter because it’s not children’s should not watch this. The expression Jack can control the rate or the depth. That’s cool. So I’ll probably use the, um, OB and expression.

[00:13:50] I like using that. I like you like using the ramper. I’ll probably use a slider too. The rapper is always fun. I like bouncing tremolo. That’s kind of fun, boys. They’re three voices. High-end dry, high and low and low and dry there’s rate, lag frequency, Rez. Resonance. And then there’s alternative alternate modes apply power with a foot switch, depressed, the lag transforms into four position mode selector with additional alpha presets.

[00:14:35] Andrew: That seems like way more features than you would normally find in a compact yet.

[00:14:39] Emily: That’s very compact. Yes. Basement always has a lot of like a hidden things. So it’s always more than you would expect.

[00:14:48] Andrew: And then the manual is still

[00:14:51] Emily: this, this small, so it’s a lot, but also it’s, it’s like not a lot like to read, so that’s nice.

[00:15:00] Andrew: Yeah, definitely breaking the mold of the, uh, the three knobs and a switch for compact unit.

[00:15:05] Emily: Yeah. So like mode one is LFO output. One runs at normal speed and LFO output. Two runs at half speed. I’ll figure it out. I think I’m just going to play it for a bit. And speaking of pedals, I have a lot going on.

[00:15:26] Oh, oh, oh. It’s from Maris. My nurse

[00:15:34] Andrew: Maris

[00:15:37] Emily: every time I think about Maris, I do think about, um, Frazier, because one of the characters who we never see his name, Maurice got. Whoo. Yeah, I’m really excited. I played one of these at the guitar store years ago and I had to leave before I really got to dig into it.

[00:15:57] Andrew: No, those are super sick. Yay.

[00:16:00] Emily: Thanks. I’m really excited

[00:16:03] Andrew: for a digital delay. It’s just like chef’s kiss. Yes.

[00:16:08] Emily: I dropped the manual, our drop something. What did I drop? Oh, have manual. Yay delay and synchronized phase or, yeah, I’m really excited for this one too, so much to be excited about. And then not last, but certainly not least.

[00:16:35] We’re twins.

[00:16:37] Andrew: Twins. We’re not identical twins. Are we? We’re okay. We’re

[00:16:42] Emily: sisters, not twins. ’cause I got the wireless pod.

[00:16:51] Yeah. I’m going to do a video where I, um, uh, I think I’m going to try to find time to do a video where I, um, get sounds together for the set list for the Sunday crush set. Cause I really want to play this at our, uh, October 14th show at drunkies in white center. Um, so I can walk around all wireless. Yep. I think that’d be really fun.

[00:17:16] Yeah. But yeah, it has a little like storage slot for the wireless boy. Literally not the Trek charger. Cause that’s the charger slot,

[00:17:28] Andrew: but yeah, I guess you don’t need a charging like all the time. You probably don’t

[00:17:31] Emily: want it charging all the time. Yeah. But I am really excited. Lots of stuff happening over here.

[00:17:40] Well, what a week? A lot of work to do. I’m glad I have tomorrow off.

[00:17:48] Oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:17:53] A lot of work to do.

[00:17:58] Andrew: Always, always, always, it never ends.

[00:18:00] Emily: No, I mean, it was kind of slow summer. I’ve not been like.

[00:18:09] But also, can I show you one out of the last thing I did, you have this little remote control and I have my two umbrella lights now. They’re no longer on tripods on the floor and they’re no longer, no longer do I have to like plug them in to turn them on?

[00:18:23] Andrew: Yeah.

[00:18:24] Emily: Oh, Oh, I got like one of those, uh, outdoor, uh, remote control outlets that you use for Christmas lights.

[00:18:37] I got one. That’s great. I didn’t either. I was looking for one with just like a switch. Like I thought I could just like get one for, I guess, switched at like, I’ve seen them for lamps on the floor. Like I’ve seen them in like older people.

[00:18:55] Andrew: Well, welcome to the, uh, remote control lighting gang.

[00:18:59] Emily: Oh, smart lights.

[00:19:03] Ooh. I have a lamp in my, and another room in my house that like I control with my phone.

[00:19:13] Andrew: It is pretty fun, right. To be as much fun as it is.

[00:19:17] Emily: But he had it, there it goes. It’s just breaking the law, breaking the law. That’s fun stuff. Cool. Anything else that’s new as you dude?

[00:19:28] Andrew: Um, no, nothing that I want to talk about on personal family chef I’ll fill you in later.

[00:19:39] Emily: Oh, okay. Cool. Cool. Cool. Although I did

[00:19:43] Andrew: get new sticky notes, so that’s exciting. Orange. How did you know?

[00:19:49] Emily: I just had an inkling. You got your orange KXP shirt. Got orange guitar. Does vaguely off screen orange sofa, orange in the lamp orange sticky note behind you actually.

[00:20:06] Andrew: Yeah, there is an orange sticky note over there. Look that

[00:20:09] Emily: detective work. Yeah. Sometimes Rick gets surprised when he asks me to get something and I guess, and he’s like, how’d, you know, I’m like perception. I’ll never forget your Watson. I’ll never forget once in one of those guitar groups, dude, like someone said that he bought the because he already had a blue boss pedal and didn’t think his wife would notice.

[00:20:36] And she immediately noticed he’s like, how did you know. I already have a, I thought you would notice. Cause I already had a blue boss pedal and she’s like that one has glittered dumb ass, like, like I’m sorry. Women can see glitter a fucking mile away.

[00:20:58] Andrew: I mean, men are definitely more likely to be color blind. So that seems like a

[00:21:03] Emily: yeah. Well, and women can literally see more shades of color just in general.

[00:21:09] Andrew: It’s not fair.

[00:21:11] Emily: You’re right. There’s lots of things that aren’t fair in this world and of the things that aren’t fair. That seems really not high up there.

[00:21:20] Andrew: No, no, no. I don’t think you understand men or men are oppressed.

[00:21:24] Emily: We’re oppressed. You’re you’re oppressed because you can’t really pick Perry Winkle out of the color wheel quite as easily.

[00:21:33] Andrew: Sorry. Do you even know what Perry Winkle is? I assume a shade of blue, but yeah.

[00:21:43] You’re looking it up to send to me.

[00:21:46] Emily: Uh it’s like, I’m trying to describe it now.

[00:21:58] I mean, one it’s a flower, but I would kind of call it more in the vein of purple. I would call it close to lavender.

[00:22:10] Andrew: I don’t like this color.

[00:22:13] Emily: If you Google Perry Winkle, you’ll get it. People also ask why is Perry Winkler called the flower of death?

[00:22:24] It’s very close to lavender.

[00:22:26] Andrew: It’s like black vendor. It’s like black nerve. It was a little bit more.

[00:22:34] Emily: The color and the blue and violet family.

[00:22:36] Andrew: It’s got a great hex code though. It’s CCC C F F.

[00:22:44] Emily: So

[00:22:49] Andrew: yeah. Could you just Photoshop, like my shirt to be a different color? Oh yeah. What color are you? White? So,

[00:23:03] Emily: Oh, my God. It’s it’s H S V is 2 40, 20 a hundred. It’s not as exciting people also searched for lavender. Now that I’m looking at the lavender, that lavender doesn’t look like very lavender to me under the people also search. No, that lavender looks very like pinkish. I don’t agree with that assessment of lavender nor their assessment of lilac.

[00:23:34] Sure. Now we’re talking colors. It’s a color colorful episode. Oh, big

[00:23:42] Andrew: yard. And then we cannot stretch it.

[00:23:50] Emily: This week’s episode, they get offset podcast sponsored by Caroline guitar company. They make they’ve made versions of their somersault pedal in lavender, not Perry Winkle though. Maybe, maybe the leap Felipe should get on that.

[00:24:11] Where are the Perry Winkle guitar pedals?

[00:24:15] Andrew: I think that’s a great question. I think there should be a, a

[00:24:19] Emily: great question.

[00:24:21] Andrew: No, I did not.

[00:24:28] Look at you bringing, having this conversation.

[00:24:31] Emily: Ooh, Ooh. That’s normally the Caroline get that company’s job. Cause their guitar pedals have havoc switches. They’re also,

[00:24:45] Andrew: if you like havoc,

[00:24:47] Emily: if you like havoc,

[00:24:48] Andrew: if you like boring nation,

[00:24:52] Emily: not look at the total guitar company. Yeah. But if you like exciting, if you like havoc, if you like to be able to, if you look, to be able to introduce havoc into your music at key moments, when you want to do

[00:25:09] Andrew: God complex, that needs fulfillment in an auditory sense,

[00:25:14] Emily: but only when you want to add it specifically, when you want to add it there, pedals are great for that, because it can be just like that.

[00:25:22] Great, awesome sound. And then you just hit that switch and it all goes wild. Your pedals are perfect for that.

[00:25:35] Andrew: Right. But I mean, if it’s not for you then, um, yeah, I mean, messing with can be friends, but

[00:25:42] Emily: yeah, that’s fine. Lots of, lots of pedals for that. Try the Amazon basics,

[00:25:48] Andrew: right? Like at their tube screamer, copy.

[00:25:51] Just be boring.

[00:25:58] Is it though. Yeah, sure. This is the part where like you start to see the S the top wobble.

[00:26:05] Emily: Y you’re nagging our audience.

[00:26:13] Uh, so, uh, again, I know we kind of get burned sometimes for talking about Seattle content cause local jokes get local work, but, um, There was a little bit of CLL trauma this week where famous comedian.

[00:26:27] Andrew: I think it isn’t just local play cause it’s a, it’s a well known shop all around the

[00:26:32] Emily: world. It is a very, very world renowned shop and I’m very, very, very famous comedian.

[00:26:41] Andrew: It just happened to happen within our zip

[00:26:43] Emily: code. It did. And to be absolutely clear, both the comedian, the comedian did delete his post. I think. That he and the shop worked out. Whatever happened between them. The, basically this shop is located in area of Seattle. It’s never been for the record, never been a great neighborhood, historically, not a great neighborhood.

[00:27:05] Um, and recently in the past couple of years, they’ve had some really major issues with that left. And I think in the last year or so. Uh, the shop owner or one of the co-owners was jumped, leaving the store and staffed. And since COVID basically, they’ve had a mask policy and an appointments only policy, so that’s on their website and, um, I guess the, just as this, this comedian and actor, uh, was denied service because of the appointments and the mask policy and was not able to buy a guitar, you know, he had the money and then he got mad and post on Instagram about it.

[00:27:55] And then people came to his defense because of the mask policy. So they got that service. And whatever, and we don’t know what happened or what was said. I do know that I’ve gone to that shop broke as hell and have been encouraged to play $10,000 guitars. Yep. So like as a, not very not famous person, this was like before I had the podcast and all that to like, as an absolute, nobody who would just like go in on my lunch break.

[00:28:24] Cause I worked in the area and I’ve been treated. As a, nobody like royalty, they’re basically, uh, very suspicious, I suppose. Um, I wouldn’t want to like completely discount that somebody may have had a bad experience there. I’m sure people have had bad experiences. They’re

[00:28:47] Andrew: absolutely willing to disk.

[00:28:49] Emily: Yeah, I’m sure people have had bad experiences there, but I,

[00:28:57] Andrew: the post screamed entitled bag.

[00:28:59] And I think that probably had something to do with his, that absolutely had to have had something to do with how he was treated.

[00:29:08] Emily: I think he’s a very bristly guy and I do not think he probably, I think he probably did not treat the employee there with the respect that she deserves. Uh, because I familiar with the employer there and I’ve worked with her and I’m willing to give her a bigger benefit of the doubt as yeah.

[00:29:31] Um, so yeah, I think that, you know, maybe when it’s a local guitar store and you’re a world famous comedian, maybe don’t put them on blast, especially. You know, I’m sure he didn’t know that the owner or co-owner had been stabbed recently and that they’ve been robbed of like $30,000 worth of gear in the past couple of years

[00:29:52] Andrew: just seemed like a tantrum.

[00:29:54] I don’t care if you’re, it doesn’t matter if you’re a comedian or what your status is, how much money you’ve got that that’s that’s inexcusable. I won’t apologize for saying that. I mean, that’s

[00:30:05] Emily: just to unload the local store and he bought his, you know, nice guitar. So all is well for him. Uh, and he deleted the post and

[00:30:14] Andrew: it seems like I think about it.

[00:30:16] I think maybe he’s the oppressed one in this situation. Yeah. Going back to the whole minute. Yeah.

[00:30:21] Emily: Okay. You got a nice guitar. He got his nice custom shop Strat and then he went to Filson and got his nice expensive bag. And I have a nice Filson bag. It’s fucking. That’s a nice bags. I got, I got mine through a nice discount program.

[00:30:43] Thanks to Tom for helping us get those Filson bags at a nice, nicer, nicer prices. I’d never would have got one. Otherwise I love mine. My cat has barfed on it and it cleaned right up. I watched my cat pop out of her little khaki barf directly on that bag. I was like of all the things. Of all the things he could have

[00:31:05] Andrew: barked on this smells nice.

[00:31:12] Emily: It cleaned up really well.

[00:31:14] Andrew: I know he’s, I’ve got no patience for big boomer energy like that. I just

[00:31:18] Emily: he’s big generic. Right. It seems definitely gen X, but yeah.

[00:31:24] Andrew: Well, I, I sure I that’s where he tactically is, but that, that behavior just like going with stereotypes of internet isms, I mean, just summer between Bloomberg and Karen, I mean, retail employees that.

[00:31:39] Emily: Yeah. And, you know, I think just the celebrity energy was kind of upsetting and annoying. And I was, I don’t like to see it from that person in particular, like I’m a fan of this I’ve really liked this comedian. So it was like such a bummer to see like two, two things you like place really,

[00:31:59] Andrew: really I AI, no idea.

[00:32:02] Medical.

[00:32:06] Emily: Oh, wow.

[00:32:06] Andrew: Okay. Which really adds to the whole, like, they didn’t recognize who I am. Like fuck off.

[00:32:13] Emily: Yeah. You are a younger millennial then. Yeah, I am. Yeah. Yeah. He’s very funny. Honestly. Sure. I got to stand up. We talked about his stance.

[00:32:28] Andrew: I don’t think we did. I really don’t recognize that it

[00:32:31] Emily: was Rick and I. Who, who like watches stand up or something.

[00:32:35] Andrew: I mean, I’m sure he’s capable of being funny, whatever he posted the other day. That was not it. No we’ll have is

[00:32:40] Emily: not funny. Imagine if that was a joke. Now, speaking

[00:32:44] Andrew: of jokes,

[00:32:47] Emily: go points.

[00:32:50] Andrew: Um, really just coming out the gate with my opinion on things.

[00:32:55] Uh, Gibson is teamed up with a FinTech startup. By the name of rally.

[00:33:01] Emily: Oh man. You were just coming out. You’re just coming out of the gate. I don’t shit on this. Oh,

[00:33:06] Andrew: wow. Okay. So

[00:33:09] Emily: that’s fine. I don’t know anything about, I mean, I got the press release. We both got the press release.

[00:33:16] Andrew: I’m sure I’m missing something that makes us a better business thing.

[00:33:19] Emily: So we got the press. Are you going to read the press release or are you going to just

[00:33:25] Andrew: I’ll read the press release. Let’s see. Swipe swipe,

[00:33:34] uh, From Gibson rally, the first platform to allow retail investors to invest in collectible assets today announced a partnership with Gibson, the leading iconic guitar brand that has shaped the sounds of generations of musicians, yada yada yada, yada. This partnership comes off the heels of rally’s $30 million series B funding led by Excel and other financial, uh, With participation from existing investors, upfront ventures, social leverage, and others.

[00:34:06] So they’re their startup. They made it to series B. They seem to be doing well. And this is just one of their next partnerships to prove the solvency of their platform. Cool. Uh, now anyone can invest in three unique Gibson guitars. That’s what this partnership is about. Um, so the three guitars, there’s a 1966 EDS, 1275.

[00:34:25] Double-neck Tommy Iommi monkey, 1964, SG special replica and Adam Jones, 1979. Les Paul custom agent signed silver burst. So the idea here is you can buy shares in one of these three guitars of a

[00:34:42] Emily: replica.

[00:34:45] Andrew: Yep. I replica, it looks like the Les Paul custom. So aged and signed is not original and it looks like the EDS 1275 is the only one that looks like it might be original.

[00:35:00] Which one? Oh, wait. No, that’s not. Uh, slash 1966, EDS 1275. Um, it does say it was handcrafted by Gibson custom shop. So they’re not even like original vintage, anything guitars. They’re just custom shop guitars.

[00:35:18] Emily: Oh, so they’re $65,000.

[00:35:29] Andrew: Uh, quotes in the press release Gibson is one of the most trusted guitar brands in the world. We couldn’t be more excited to be the first platform offering these iconic assets to our investors. It says the CEO of. Guitars of this caliber have historically always gone to individual collectors, but our goal is to find a way to make the ownership experience accessible as to many fans, as possible says mark ag Neesy director of brand experience Gibson brands,

[00:35:56] Emily: but I don’t get to, I never get to play.

[00:35:59] Andrew: Thanks to rally’s unique platform. Fans can have a chance to own a piece of guitar history that would have otherwise seemed unobtainable, but I

[00:36:06] Emily: don’t get to obtain it

[00:36:08] Andrew: very much feels like buying an acre on the. I will never visit,

[00:36:17] Emily: but then this is a good target soul. Do I get money? Maybe? Uh, we’ll look at targets.

[00:36:31] Should I buy a share of this guitar right now?

[00:36:34] Andrew: Live on the podcast. I’m good.

[00:36:40] Emily: I’m ready. I’m making.

[00:36:42] Andrew: There we go. What’s happening. I think let’s see here. There’s only about Gibson section and about rally section. None of this is new information. Gibson’s based list of like when they were founded, what brands they own and what their media platforms are about.

[00:36:59] Rally rally is a first of its kind platform or unique high value assets are securitized split into shares and offered equity, equity investments to users of all income lines. The firm’s mission is to democratize alternative asset investing by providing access liquidity and transparency to markets that have traditionally only been available to a select few rally completed the first ever initial offering for a vehicle in 2017.

[00:37:27] The rally app is now easily available for iPhone, Android, or web desktop, and all mobile platforms@wwwrallyrd.com. Yes. So you don’t get to touch it. You don’t get to play it. You don’t get to look at it outside of pictures. Um, you just own like a hypothetical share, which, I mean, I suppose is like how stocks has done.

[00:37:51] I mean like, sure. Like I can own stocks in apple or Microsoft or insert company here. Uh, Blackberry. Stop

[00:38:01] Emily: came. Stocks

[00:38:03] Andrew: was all like, I, I like ever like touch your own. The purpose for like investing in the New York stock exchange is like you put money in and hopefully the future of that money is

[00:38:13] Emily: I see guitars.

[00:38:15] I S oh, there we go.

[00:38:17] Andrew: What I understand with the stock exchange is, you know, your, your, your, your shares slash.

[00:38:25] Emily: The slash one’s already funded. Wow. A hundred percent funded. Adam Jones is coming soon and Gibson Tommy Iommi, co I mean it worked.

[00:38:36] Andrew: Yeah. I mean, they’re making money. I have no doubt there. I certainly don’t want to say that this is an absolute fail from a business perspective.

[00:38:44] It just, I, I guess me saying, this is a joke, as it seems, maybe this is how. Some folks felt when they heard about crypto. I’m like, that’s not gonna work. So maybe I’m just, maybe I’m the one that’s behind here, but what, what w under what basis is that money going up? Is it like, we’re all buying hypothetical shares in and then Gibson takes that money and invest it themselves because KKR is their parent company, which is essentially like a investment holding.

[00:39:17] Type, uh, asset management company. So maybe they’re just going to take that money, put it in other ventures. And then that pool of money will be worth more in the future. Kind of like a savings account.

[00:39:28] Emily: Eddie van Halen concert played guitar signed is down 4.4% since last close. So they actually actively trade these shares.

[00:39:40] Andrew: So it’s its own ecosystem within itself of actively treat?

[00:39:44] Emily: Yes. Oh yeah. So the, so this one, this 1, 8, 5, it looked like it launched at 26 and then it went to auction at Julianne’s and sold. Oh God. Oh, it looks like. So Julian’s for 1920 and then sold that golden for 20. And then it’s sold on E-bay for 60 heritage for 54, and then I Connick for 46.

[00:40:23] So it looks like it just is selling at different places. This doesn’t really make any sense to me.

[00:40:31] Andrew: Is that just for shares?

[00:40:33] Emily: I don’t really understand this at all. Huh,

[00:40:41] but it looks like this is physically selling somewhere and then people are buying shares. Yeah. This doesn’t make any sense to me as like,

[00:40:53] Andrew: is it a self-contained ecosystem where people are trading shares actively similar to the New York stock exchange, which has his own self. Uh,

[00:41:02] Emily: looks like both because these are physical items that are selling at auctions.

[00:41:08] It looks like.

[00:41:10] Andrew: So if it sells at an auction, then the valuation of the guitar goes up. But if a hundred say a hundred people have all bought shares in the guitar and then someone else actually buys the physical guitar. Then who owns the guitar.

[00:41:25] Emily: This is so

[00:41:25] Andrew: stupid. It’s like having the guitar like. Like, uh, an ownership stake, you have to own more than 50% of the shares that have the guitar.

[00:41:40] Emily: This, this doesn’t make any sense.

[00:41:44] Andrew: I think we’re we’re I start to have like, so like I get that. Yes. It’s making money and I’m sure Gibson’s breaking in a whole ton of money out of that chunk there. Uh, I guess my question is. The questions that now float around the back of my mind are more like brand identity.

[00:41:59] I have questions I’d love to like, sit down over a beer with mark and be like, what, what is the future Gibson like? W w what is the direction that you’re moving towards and how is this helping the company move forward in that direction?

[00:42:12] Emily: Allies, asset, ally, physically I’m surrounded rally physically owns the assets.

[00:42:19] The assets are securely stored in our purpose. Climate controlled east coast facility. They are monitored by a train local staff, a capita 24 7 video surveillance. Okay. So has

[00:42:33] Andrew: it been people’s salaries with this amount,

[00:42:37] Emily: whatever their profits are. So basically then,

[00:42:42] Andrew: so Gibson doesn’t own the guitars anymore?

[00:42:45] Emily: No. So then you’re just like buying shares on this, these physical things that are owned by rally.

[00:42:58] And then you’re just deciding whether or not they’re. Worth anything. It’s just like the stock exchange exactly like the stock exchange. So after an initial offering, they impose a 90 day lockup period during which shares can not be bought or sold. Once that lockup period is over the invest, invest Bund is replaced by buy and sell.

[00:43:21] So, you know, the asset is trading. You can sell your shares during trading window. Which opened for each asset on one specific day, each month, just one specific day, each month you can buy or sell. It looks like during the trading window, you can revise your order. As often as you want, when it closes, the broker dealer will match sell orders, bids at the market clearing price per share.

[00:43:46] If it’s at or above your ask, your sale will clear and the buyer’s funds will be deposited into your.

[00:43:56] Apparently they started with cars cause it says, can I buy shares? Even if I miss a car’s initial offering, um,

[00:44:05] Andrew: takes rally cars to a whole new level. I understand there are shares. I understand that retail trading has been a huge shift in the overall investment landscape. And we’re looking at like Robin hood for instance, and just Coinbase and other applications available for people to start putting their little, their petty change into in order to invest a little bit at a time, um, just on smaller levels, as opposed to like hedge funds and larger, more traditional investment mechanisms.

[00:44:35] So I get that. That’s been a major change recently in the, in the market. I think this almost seems like the pendulum is swung the other direction too far. Like it’s one thing to like level the playing field, like democratize, so to speak that the investment landscape, but I don’t know, this feels strange.

[00:44:57] Emily: This is very strange. Um, so when, when do you sell the assets? What happens when you do in general? We tend to intend to hold the assets for the long term. However, we do keep close tabs on what an investor sentiment through the app is as well as the broader market conditions. If we do liquidate the asset, the.

[00:45:17] The proceeds do get paid to the shareholders. Remember the trading windows provide flexibility to the investors instead of having to wait for an asset to be sold, to exit your investment. You’re able to decrease your exposure by selling shares during a trading window. So, I mean,

[00:45:40] Andrew: so the part that I don’t understand is like, if you were buy shares in the company, that is an actual.

[00:45:45] Constantly changing entity, buying shares and guitar that’s any climate control virus that is a static, like maybe the shares go up. If Adam Jones were to tragically die, like that’s the only thing I could like, if there’s a name attached to that item, then that’s a bit, way, way, way more static.

[00:46:06] Emily: Yeah.

[00:46:08] Replica guitars. I mean, They don’t get made a lot, but they do get made

[00:46:16] Andrew: what’s to say Gibson doesn’t make another three of these.

[00:46:20] Emily: Yeah. Or, or more or more indifferent slash models or more indifferent,

[00:46:29] Andrew: the value in this for their business, building their brand identity, et cetera. I, I’m not sure what it is.

[00:46:34] Emily: Something new, new partnerships, you know, getting the brand name out there. Um,

[00:46:40] Andrew: does seem a little bit like catering to the. Almost blue blues, lawyer market. Absolutely blues lawyers will have the money to buy these sorts of nice guitars. And that’s not what that’s the rich folks, the hobby like the rich hobby players are not the folks that they are marketing to with this.

[00:46:56] As far as I can tell, this is more of your middle-class lower middle-class, you know, $5 a share just wanted to like get in on the action, but without having. And so maybe that’s the, that’s what they’re going for in terms of brand awareness. And that’s what their whole. To drive here. I don’t

[00:47:12] Emily: hire it’s just day trader stuff, but like to do it once a month is like goofy, honestly.

[00:47:22] Like that’s, that’s not very often. And this is, it seems more complicated. It seems really a lot more complicated than like what you do with, um, Let me just start kind

[00:47:36] Andrew: of all those emails. So the, so from a, from a branding perspective, just continuing to speculate, um, I would love to see Gibson continue to grow and to develop and to live up to the legacy branding that that name deserves.

[00:47:52] And that’s something that I’ve been saying for years now. And I, I stand by what I don’t understand is. In my head, what I imagined like one of Gibson’s problems would be from a branding perspective right now is, um, coming, coming out of the. The last era of ownership, where it just seemed like poor.

[00:48:11] Decision-making very corporate, very corporate being bought up by a larger corporate entity with the bankruptcy. Now you’ve got this. What used to be feel like a people’s guitar brand now feels like a corporate overlord. Um, the, the play authentic movement really did not help that imaging issue. You’ve got that.

[00:48:26] And I imagine that’s the sort of thing that you would want to try and buck as a company, especially to appeal to younger players, uh, maybe I’m wrong. Maybe I misunderstand the market analysis there in terms of a target market, but that’s what I’m imagining. And so if I assume that as a goal in my head, this doesn’t line up with that goal.

[00:48:45] So maybe I’m just misunderstanding Gibson’s goals here with our market.

[00:48:50] Emily: I mean, I don’t know. It is, uh, on one hand, like the $5 entry does very much seem to be like a way for people who otherwise couldn’t buy a $13,000 instrument or whatever to own part, own part of one. Um, it’s

[00:49:10] Andrew: regenerate a meme stocks event.

[00:49:16] Emily: I don’t know why anybody.

[00:49:21] Andrew: For the sake, like the meme stocks thing, like he very much had a let’s bring down the corporate over let’s let’s completely kill hedge funds and they successfully killed at least one or two hedge funds in back in January. I mean, that was billions of dollars that they ruined for people. Right. And just driven with this whole like desire to like topple the establishment, screw all of this.

[00:49:43] We’re going to use what little influence we have. If we’ve banded all together, we are more powerful than the corporate overlord kind of mentality. Think anyone’s trying to topple

[00:49:52] Emily: Gibson. I’m truly trying to see the benefit of investing in this. I think you’d have, like, this is very, this seems extremely risky and I just don’t see like, The likelihood of these guitar, like, honestly, and it just seems so, um, dark thinking about like the only way that these guitars would go up extremely in value.

[00:50:22] Um, you’d buy shares these guitars and you wait around for these guitars to die. And I ha I take extreme umbrage. And in, in that mind, Yep. And there’s, that’s just literally the only reason I can think of and investing in these guitars for to see any significant amount of monetary gain. And you know what, like, honestly, like, like what would, when prince died, you could sell his records and make money.

[00:50:58] Like you could sell his member of Balea and make money. And you had to, you had to do that like in the days and the weeks after he died. Cause everything was sold out because people wanted to go and they bonded by prince records. And you know, also part of the reason you can do that is because prince didn’t reissue a bunch of stuff and Princeton have a bunch of like signature guitars and slash Tommy who is, oh my gosh, what happened to my brain right there.

[00:51:25] Who’s the third one. With the guitar Jones, Adam Jones, they have a lot of signature guitars. Like there’s already, there’s a lot of stuff on the market already for them. So I don’t know if it’s going to, it wouldn’t have quite the same windfall. Like if you had a prince cloud guitar that he sold at Paisley park or grand slam club, like in the nineties, like you sold that thing for $10,000.

[00:51:49] Yep. And when you bought it for like two or like one seven, a 1.7. Okay. Like. You like, because he didn’t sell it, all that kind of stuff. So I don’t even think that like they would have that big of a return just because there’s more of it.

[00:52:07] Andrew: I mean, I don’t think the business value here is, and I don’t think the business value for Gibson is like, oh, you got three of these guitars in the vault.

[00:52:13] Let’s just sell them and make some quick cash. Cause that’s not worth the amount of money that’s not.

[00:52:19] Emily: Okay. I don’t think there was any risk really for Gibson for doing this. I bet they were reached out to Gibson makes things that increase in value. I think rally saw that and thought no guitars guitars do go up in value.

[00:52:37] Um, so.

[00:52:40] Andrew: I think in the back of my head, I kind of thinking through like, Gibson’s like brand branding objectives here. I think I am remembering back when Henry J said that Gibson was not a good heartburn, but a lifestyle brand. Yeah. And he wanted a model. It kind of in the direction of like Harley being like they’re not necessarily motorcycle brand Harley Davidson is a lifestyle brand that just makes good motorcycles.

[00:53:05] And so coming from a branding. Strategy approach like that. Uh, if that’s carried over, I mean, we’ve got a Gibson CEO right now is not like a, you know, like a guitar player. He came from Levi’s, I mean, is a lifestyle brand. And, and I’m wondering if this isn’t just continuation of just trying to reinforced Gibson as a lifestyle brand.

[00:53:29] Um, and, and to that end, that would actually make a whole lot of sense for this as a move. Yeah.

[00:53:40] Someone’s getting tickled in the other room was loud.

[00:53:47] I mean, from, from a lifestyle branding perspective, I guess that’s the only, that’s the only objective in my head where this makes sense. Yeah. From a corporate strategy approach. Um, it’s like, I guess I get it, but. You know, maybe, maybe this is, I mean, I’m sure the more I think about this more I’m realizing this is such a drop in the bucket in terms of how much money’s involved, uh, for Gibson is a brand that this is probably just a dish or why not?

[00:54:21] Emily: Which is that direction. It’s a bigger deal for rally. Yes. Yeah. You know, Obviously it worked the first one sold out, like I’ve already closed the tab. So I don’t remember

[00:54:34] Andrew: when the $120,000 in total for the first one, I think.

[00:54:39] Emily: No, I’m like, oh, off September 1st. So, I mean, obviously to kind of miss the mark on when that, uh, went out.

[00:54:47] No,

[00:54:49] Andrew: let’s see. Right. I mean, Yeah. So September 1st is when the press release hit, uh, and then like, you know, gets her world stuff. They didn’t start picking up until about this week, which is when I took note of it. And

[00:55:02] Emily: that was the amount of money.

[00:55:03] Andrew: Okay. I mean, that’s a lot, not a ton of money, but, um, for replicating, it’s hard that that’s more than, yeah.

[00:55:13] Yeah.

[00:55:18] Emily: So I made other guitars that they have. I mean, the Adam Jones one is, is asking for $95,000. The Tommy that’s dumb. Sorry. It’s oh my God. I could call him Tommy. Tony Tony’s monkey is 65 K Carlos Santana Gibson with 75 K and then EDH concert played. 59 3 right now. And that’s under, that’s 4% lower than, uh, well, I guess what their IPO was.

[00:55:51] So

[00:55:53] Andrew: are they there, are they calling it an IPO? Uh, are they just straight up barring that terminology

[00:56:02] Emily: or, well, I don’t remember the initial, like the initial bid or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, the offer, they, they are used the word offering. Yeah. They’re they’re using the word offering, um, the original pro. So look looking at this Alex Jones one, the original price high, but shine 2 0 9, $12,000.

[00:56:29] They’re showing that one 10 August, uh, October 1st, 2016, uh, one sold for $40,000. And they’re showing that one, a stage BBQing stage played prototype sold Juliana’s for $35,000. So they’re showing like, why are they playing? Well, I don’t know. I don’t understand. They’re showing these previous selling prices.

[00:56:59] Leads that does not make sense as far as the price, but they’re showing the asset value has increased 191% since the first one went on sale or over the course of three transactions. That’s that’s what, that was. What was confusing me when I was looking at the sales. So the Tony monkey originally sold an oh nine for 12.

[00:57:28] The most recent ones sold at Julianne’s for 35. So that’s 191 up. These are the same numbers. What the, these don’t make any sense.

[00:57:39] Andrew: Yeah. I am not entirely sold on the numbers perspective of it. I’m not going to be putting it in my money into it personally, but. I think I’d, I’d be better off dropping money into crypto, which I’m not even in right

[00:57:52] Emily: now.

[00:57:52] Don’t do that too. Oh, no. All right. Well, yeah, that’s all I got to say about this.

[00:57:57] Andrew: Well, I I’m confused as ever, but I, you know, maybe at the end of the day, the fact that we’re talking about this, this is the win for them.

[00:58:04] Emily: Stock rose are going to be like our S our S our stock trading, listening. Listeners are going to be like you’re stupid,

[00:58:18] stupid, stupid podcast. Does

[00:58:22] Andrew: maybe, uh, maybe we should, uh, sell shares of my orange Jennings for $5. A pop.

[00:58:35] Still sell shares. I can’t even joke about that now. I can’t imagine

[00:58:40] Emily: basically Sullivan basically sell shares of this podcast on patrion.com/get offset. Invest $5. Guess I podcast.com/merge. And thanks for listening. Thanks

[00:58:53] Andrew: for watching.

[00:58:55] Emily: Thanks for understanding until next time. My name is Emily

[00:58:58] Andrew: and my name is Andrew goodbye.