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[00:00:00] Emily: welcome to get offset. My name is Emily.
[00:00:16] Andrew: And my name is Andrew
[00:00:18] Emily: and I don’t have a headache at all. That’s okay. I’ll just talk like this, the entire episode. Oh, that’s awareness.
[00:00:29] Oh God. I’m so tired.
[00:00:32] Andrew: Um, but why are you tired? What, what life decisions have you made that landed you at this point in
[00:00:39] Emily: time? I had my Halloween gig last night. Nice. Yeah. On the 30th. So we recording this on spooky Halloween. We are. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I’ve been to target on Christmas Eve and I’ve been to target on Halloween’s Eve on new hollows Eve.
[00:01:04] And I have to say, um, both our adventures in their own way. And not because of the candy aisle. I didn’t really go into the candy aisle. I went to target specifically to buy makeup because we were going for a goth look on stage. Um, though when I was playing, I was playing with love and I were playing with, with w how grammatically, how does that work?
[00:01:29] The women I was playing with, or the women I were playing was. Yeah, but that doesn’t sound right either. The group of women I was playing with. Sounds correct. Okay. I’m getting farther from it. That’s fine. Never in my life. Have I seen a, uh, makeup section more picked over the, the makeup section at target last night?
[00:02:01] It was. Truly, truly horrible. There was, there was nothing in that makeup section at target. I, I felt so. Panicked.
[00:02:23] Andrew: So I’d like to completely deviate because I just saw something so completely random
[00:02:35] Emily: riches, hand you an ice cube for your cactus.
[00:02:44] Andrew: Mostly just called from the other room. She said, that’s the thing, Andrew,
[00:02:47] Emily: maybe. Y. Yeah. The thing.
[00:02:55] Andrew: All right. Well, it’s a thing. I just like,
[00:03:00] Emily: I was sitting here looking at my cactus, thinking it’s looking a little wilted. So I messaged Rick and said, can you bring me an ice cube? And I heard him coming down the stairs. So I held out my hand and it has a patient. And
[00:03:13] Andrew: I didn’t see Rick, I just saw like a hand, like from the edge of the string go woo.
[00:03:17] Emily: And viewers won’t because it’ll be cropped out. So I’m trying to, if he slept,
[00:03:23] Andrew: I feel like that got to edit that in somehow.
[00:03:27] Emily: So Andrew just saw what I was trying to crop out. And then I pulled the cactus into the screen, dropped it into the. Into the, yeah. So then it slowly waters the cactus as the ice cube melt and it’s, uh, it’s how you water, orchids and succulents.
[00:03:51] Andrew: So this is probably why I killed nearly every plant I’ve ever had.
[00:03:56] Emily: I mean, I do too. So that’s why I’m trying something different.
[00:04:01] Andrew: Fair enough. Fair enough. Well, back to being on topic, how did the show.
[00:04:07] Emily: I’m still talking about the makeup section. I’m like panic, trying to find my foundation color. And then I’m like, I need, like, I shouted to his smokey eye and all they have are literally like the, the white girl flesh color.
[00:04:21] I shut up. And finally I’ve found like a $16 like 12 color palette that just sheded immediately all over me as I was trying to use it. And then I like found like a lip stain that I use. It looked all right. And then I had to, I’ve never had to reapply a 24 hour lip stay in as many times as I had to reapply that one last night.
[00:04:47] What a farce, all the minerals in this podcast, like makeup. But, um, I had a really cute goth top and like a little like. Gothy Brewshed Roche thingy. And I did my hair up like geodesy and from mean girls, which was kind of gothy. And, uh, I wore contacts for the first time in a very long time. It was the most makeup I’ve worn since my wedding, by like a lot, but good in the show went really well.
[00:05:23] Uh, it was packed at the tractor Tavern. Like it was, it sold out the night before. That’s how packed it was. And, um, yeah, so, um, and it was full by the time we were on stage. Which was really cool at nine. So people that got there early, like I roll in, uh, so we sound check and the drummer, faith and her husband and Rick and I, we all go to Hattie’s hat, um, down the street to get dinner.
[00:05:53] And, uh, when faith and I get, get back. There’s already people like waiting at the front of the stage for the show to start. I’m like, oh, it’s going to be one of those shows. I’m like, okay, I’m excited. And um, then we just, we just go into it nine, nine. Exactly. We don’t wait to start. Um, you know, we were told that we could wait a little bit.
[00:06:20] We just were like, nah, we’re starting, we’re starting on time, rock and roll. And. And, uh, one of the songs that we played was don’t fear the Reaper and I got the solo on it. It was really cool. There was some guys who were right up front who were really, really, really fucking stoked to hear don’t fear the Reaper and, uh, after, after.
[00:06:44] Yeah. And, um, as I look after my solo, After the big lake middle weird part breakdown, I look up to center stage and there’s the fucking grim Reaper right there. And I just go,
[00:07:02] Andrew: did you fear the Reaper?
[00:07:04] Emily: No. It says don’t fear. The Reaper don’t she had to read. No good. Maybe I’m your whole may. And I think Patty Smith wrote some of the lyrics for this.
[00:07:23] Andrew: That’s not something I considered as a possibility before.
[00:07:26] Emily: No, that sounds so weird. Every thing about that song is so weird. Yes. Well, if you follow me on Twitter, the then you know, like a month and a half ago, I tweeted, I’ve never been less interested in learning a guitar solo. Then the guitar solo for don’t fear, the Reaper.
[00:07:46] But when Kathy Moore asks you to learn the guitar solo for don’t fear, the Reaper, you say yes. I was like, oh, I’m glad I did.
[00:07:59] Andrew: No, it sounds like it was a hell of a time.
[00:08:01] Emily: Yeah. Yeah, it was ha E and of course, Holly queen, the queen tribute band was, um, me saying it was so good. It was a really fun night.
[00:08:16] Andrew: Yeah.
[00:08:18] It sounds like more for the books. It
[00:08:19] Emily: was, uh, I enjoy dressing up on stage. We, we should talk about that sometime. Let’s yeah. We could do it now.
[00:08:36] Andrew: I don’t have a whole lot to contribute that.
[00:08:39] Emily: Let’s talk about your vacation though. Oh, you know? Oh yeah, sure. Oh, oh yeah, sure. I hear it. Yeah. Are you going to talk, are you going to talk about your whole vacation in a, in a Wisconsin accent?
[00:08:54] Andrew: No, I, I can’t do it for, for an extended period of time. Um, I’m actually trying to intentionally detox. Cause I spent enough of the trip mocking my dad’s new found accent that it started to happen naturally. I’m like, oh, full send went too far. Um, but yeah, no, it was a good vacation. Uh, you know,
[00:09:18] Emily: Yeah,
[00:09:19] Andrew: it’ll do something.
[00:09:21] I heard a lot. Oh yeah. That’ll do. Yeah.
[00:09:25] Emily: That’d be not so bad. It’s not so
[00:09:28] Andrew: bad. Yeah. Uh, no, it was good. The weather was better than Seattle that’s for sure.
[00:09:35] Emily: It was kind of a beautiful today.
[00:09:37] Andrew: Oh, today’s great. Cause it came back. Oh, uh, yeah, I, uh, it was a good mix of doing nothing and doing everything and you are,
[00:09:55] Emily: I’m fine. I just got a special, oh,
[00:09:59] Andrew: there we go. I didn’t even see a hand that time
[00:10:05] Emily: that scared me. Oh, God squeak.
[00:10:10] Andrew: For those of you listening. Emily just got coffee in a mug
[00:10:15] Emily: Stanley thermos. It’s not a mug. I’m pouring set coffee into an actual mug glass, old blood noise endeavors mug. And I was screwing the lid of the Stanley. Your mess back on.
[00:10:36] Andrew: Well, there you go. That is coffee. I have not had coffee yet today. So bear with me. Uh, so important things for my vacation are one. I picked up an accident. I didn’t know that I had very deep inside my head. So, uh, played board games, ate great food, gained seven pounds in five days. Um, had a lot of really great beer.
[00:10:57] Um, but important is I got to do a little bit of guitar work was.
[00:11:05] Emily: Um,
[00:11:09] Andrew: got to install a, a constraint wiring harness on my dad’s jazz bass. Ooh. He ordered one for his base while back, and then was intimidated to do it because that’s, my dad has a hard time trying new things. Sometimes
[00:11:27] Emily: you get like the solder free, like yeah. Okay.
[00:11:31] Andrew: He just like, he was didn’t want to like plugging the wrong things at the wrong place.
[00:11:35] And even though there’s a was like opened up, like I pull fully pulled down. I’m like, dad, have you seen this really great graphics sheet that like shows like what color goes to he’s like, oh no, I didn’t, I didn’t get that far. So I think he just opened the box, looked at and said, no, that’s intimidating.
[00:11:49] Put it. Which is fine. I mean, yeah, there’s nothing wrong with that, but he’s like, can you help me with it? And that’s fine. So I sat down with him again to show him like, this is how this works and the Phoenix Jack’s made it so easy. Um, it’s like a little, like, there’s just like a little hole. You put the wire in the screw on the side for a set.
[00:12:08] Screw, you screw it in. And boom. Nice. The hardest part was, uh, the, it was a, it’s a Squire, a jazz bass. So it’s got like the. The cloth, like push wire. So you like pushed back the cloth and it just, it wasn’t on a, uh, on a couple of them were like, would not push back for anything. So I had to like sit there and turn that back.
[00:12:27] But, uh, other than that, no, it was great. It was super easy to do. Uh, he doesn’t have a bass amp at home. He’s got one at there’s, one of his churches going to go play it later in the week. I just didn’t have a chance to, to soundcheck it. But, uh, I mean, I’ve got it because. I should probably post that picture.
[00:12:48] Yeah, it was. I really enjoyed that experience. Like it was kind of nice, like over a cup of coffee, took about 15 minutes while I was showing my dad like one thing at a time, like, this is where this goes and this is where this goes,
[00:13:01] Emily: boys. Yeah. Oh yeah, sure. Um, yeah, put the crown there and you put the hot there.
[00:13:11] Andrew: It’s a little bit different. Cause you’re, you’re, you’ve got the accent you’re doing is like Minnesota, right?
[00:13:17] Emily: It’s a hundred
[00:13:17] Andrew: percent, that’s it? So I’m here. Like this is weird now. Cause like before I’m like, oh yeah, that sounds like, kind of like what
[00:13:24] Emily: pretty much it’s pretty generic Midwest, to be honest.
[00:13:27] Yeah.
[00:13:28] Andrew: There’s there’s something about the way that they, they talk and like, everybody in my dad’s town speaks is just like, there’s a timber do it. That it reminds me of like, uh, like, uh, the, the cadence of like Scottish accents. There’s like a little bit of a sing song that kind of goes with it. Um,
[00:13:49] Emily: okay.
[00:13:51] So anyways for like,
[00:13:54] Andrew: no, no. There’s no joke behind this. It’s just, no, I’m not
[00:13:58] Emily: waiting for a joke. I’m waiting for, uh, an example. What’s a Toria. Oh, so
[00:14:06] Andrew: much pressure. Maybe, maybe randomly in the episode. We’ll see.
[00:14:11] Emily: Got to work yourself into it. I get it. No, it’s Sean from Gumtree. It’s a mensch. He’s a mentioned a work bench.
[00:14:21] Okay. That means God damn it. You’re very. Very not Jewish. Um, uh, mentioned a good one who does good deeds? No, you know, you know, elf on a shelf. Yes. The Jewish version has literally mentioned on a bench.
[00:14:40] Andrew: Never heard that in my life.
[00:14:43] Emily: Wow,
[00:14:45] Andrew: please. Not that I can recall.
[00:14:46] Emily: Okay. But I like it. Okay. Uh, I was trying, I had, I sold a guitar last weekend.
[00:14:53] I sold them my old supersonic, the one that fell off the wall. Um, but I wanted to swap the wiring with my new supersonic because I had Lawler’s. I had a nice Gumtree wiring harness. Did it, the split split split coils and have the massive volume master tone instead of this split volume. And, um, I was like, it should just be an easy pick guard.
[00:15:17] Swap. But the wiring on the new supersonic, I felt with her spin kind of weird with it, like when I was playing it, like after I demoed it. And I like, I normally just play that one on the bridge anyway, because I feel like I was never really going to the neck and I swap them. And, um, nothing from the neck.
[00:15:44] Well, actually there’s a little from the neck was very quiet. And, um, if I touched the, uh, mounting pole, uh, the, the, uh, mounting screw, I would get a loud hum. And if I touch the strings and play it, I would get. The normal amount of sound from the neck pickup. So it seems like a simple grounding issue. And I was like, I had, I had to go to band practice and then I’d sell the guitar.
[00:16:16] Like I was on a really tight schedule and I messaged Shawn. I’m like, I have no idea. Like, I don’t know what to do. Like I’m really stressed out about this. And she was like, do you have a picture? I’m like, I don’t, maybe my husband can get one. So I’d say, send me a picture. I sent a picture to Sean, Sean immediately.
[00:16:34] It was like, This needs to be solder to that. So we can just come and I’m looking at it. I’m like they didn’t trim enough back from the Y to really get it, to set in the ground and set and on the pot. And, um, and Rick was able to recenter it while I was out sold the guitar. Yeah. So yeah, Sean is a real mench.
[00:17:03] Great. Great, great person. We he’s one of the best. One of my favorites
[00:17:11] Andrew: agreed wholeheartedly.
[00:17:13] Emily: Yes. This is not an ad.
[00:17:15] Nope.
[00:17:16] Emily: He’s never bought out. He’s never bought an ad spot.
[00:17:19] Andrew: Nope. And my dad paid for that outright.
[00:17:25] Emily: Yeah.
[00:17:26] Andrew: As if like, you know, any, any sort of discount we’ve ever been offered, extends to my family.
[00:17:36] Emily: Yeah, no, I don’t think I’ve ever had offers extended to other people. The one I remember one time, I, I convinced someone to get gun-shy wiring harness, and then they paid me to install it. And then I couldn’t finish the install. And because like the guitar wasn’t routed correctly for the pickups that they had selected to put in and I’m like, I’m not, I’m like, I’m not going to route out your guitar.
[00:18:10] I’m like, your two choices are like, I can install it as far as I can install it. And you can just like, kind of trim out the edges a little bit. And he’s like, yeah, I’ll do that. I’ll do that. I’m like, okay, cool. Um, so come get it. And I think I just asked him like, just film it for me. He never did. And he never paid me awkward don’t care.
[00:18:36] Ah, you know, there’s kind of an interesting thing. It was easy enough. It was just like, what is that? Why don’t they fit? It’s like those aluminum pickups they’re supposed to be drop-ins for P90X, but they definitely are not. So.
[00:18:54] Andrew: I totally forgot. Um, so
[00:18:58] Emily: that it was your birthday, the other day. Happy belated birthday. It was my
[00:19:01] Andrew: birthday
[00:19:01] Emily: the other day. I forgot to post about it on Instagram the next day.
[00:19:07] Andrew: Totally fine. I’m not genuinely worried about it. I honestly left my phone alone for almost the entire trip. Good. So, uh, no. So the, the other, you know, Related thing that happened.
[00:19:21] I got dragged along. Uh, so my dad plays at a church. I played guitar for a church and I got dragged along to band practice. Cause there’s nothing else to do that night. I has showed up and I was just, my plan was to sit in the back and like scroll Instagram for the first time, like the entire trip. And I just sat there and like, they’re all getting set up, warming up and someone’s like, oh, like where’s it where’s Chuck or whatever the guy’s name was.
[00:19:46] Oh, he can’t make it. Oh. Um, and then like the, the, you, the worship director, like what ran to the back of the soundboard? It’s like one of those, like the soundboard is like in a, like a cinder block, like room with no window,
[00:20:02] like no glass on the windows. You’re like the, kind of like an open bar kind of thing, but it doesn’t sound good back there. And you like turn on the sound board, did a couple of things and they got started. I’m listening to this mix, like. Oh, oh, no. Uh, it just, it was, it was kind of really rough and so, all right.
[00:20:23] I’m going to go walk back there. No one, no, one’s stopping me. No, one’s at me. They all see me sitting there on clearly to all right. Cool. So he’s just kind of ran with it for practice. And I just sat there and I dialed in the board in the room, like whoever was running the board before had a, had an affinity for the base.
[00:20:41] Emily: Uh, makes it sound bigger.
[00:20:45] Andrew: Yeah. So like the entire mix is just so incredibly Boomi and just like inarticulate. Um, so I got to, I volunteered, uh, out of a board.
[00:21:00] Emily: It
[00:21:00] Andrew: was a PV, uh, like an old PV analog. Okay. Some digit by like two channels of digital onboard effects that you can select from. Um, and so after the like, oh, like how did you get the river to go? Cause we’ve been trying to figure that out for months. And there’s a button to turn on the reverb that you had assigned a channel to.
[00:21:26] And then there’s a knob and an oxidized for your. On each channel and just turn up, like the poor guy, like the dudes got no, like training on any of this. He doesn’t know what he’s doing, which is totally fine. He’s doing his best. Um, so I was really happy to help, but it was just like sitting there like, oh boy.
[00:21:44] So I kind of, I didn’t get to completely zero the board and do a full sound check, but it felt nice to sit behind a board. I haven’t sat behind a board and. Got a year and a half, two years now. So I do enjoy running front of house and, um, uh, all of that kind of stuff. That’s definitely, definitely my vibe.
[00:22:05] Emily: That’s fun.
[00:22:07] Andrew: Oh, there’s a, there’s a band meme, 6, 6, 6 shirt that had been meaning to get for myself.
[00:22:13] Emily: I’m a musician or live long enough to see yourself become the sound. Get
[00:22:18] Andrew: yeah, because it’s so true. Cause that’s, I also do some of that with my day job as well, just for like corporate environment on the technology we use there instead of having a soundboard, you plugged in with the laptop, like, all right.
[00:22:31] And we’re gonna trend compression a little bit. We’re going to dial up that frequency. I get to do that kind of stuff in my day job as well. So I’m not just sound guy, corporate sound guy. It’s great. Yeah.
[00:22:42] Emily: Uh, I have a question for you. Yeah. For a band who’s looking for, um, something that is versatile, that they could use both in practice and perhaps in recording, but they probably would not use in live situations.
[00:23:00] Would you recommend a powered mixer or a, an analog.
[00:23:06] Andrew: Let me see power. You
[00:23:07] Emily: mean like digital? No, like I’m could power a speaker.
[00:23:11] Andrew: Oh, um,
[00:23:16] it’s a loaded question. Uh, pun intended.
[00:23:20] Emily: Ha ha. Because either you need to get PA like, cause right now Sunday crushes like, well, we have a little powered, like a four channel powered. Mixer right now, we’re kind of thinking about upgrading something that we can also use with recording. So if we got like an analog mixer, we would need to then also get loud speakers that are either empower.
[00:23:47] So
[00:23:49] Andrew: I mean, cheaper way to go is going to be to get a powered mixer and just passive speakers are so easy to come by.
[00:24:00] Emily: We already have a power. We already have a powered mixer and passive speakers. So we’re wondering, like we want to kind of upgrade, like for potential recording situations
[00:24:13] Andrew: like recording an entire mix all at once or recording a couple people that design,
[00:24:22] Emily: like according to our rehearsals. Gotcha.
[00:24:25] Andrew: Um, yeah, I mean, Powered mixer. That’s got a USB out. Typically, if you’ve got a full board mixer, it’s running USB out, it’s just going to be a master, your two ch master channels left and right. Instead of everybody individually in your dye, but you could still just record it as just one master track, um, out to a Dodgers flip, open a laptop, plug it in and hit record.
[00:24:48] Yeah,
[00:24:49] Emily: I think some of those back east, some of those Mac, I know the Mackie Audix they’ll record to an SD card, so you don’t even have to have a computer
[00:24:56] Andrew: that’s handy.
[00:24:57] Emily: That’s actually really.
[00:25:01] But those are that’s the Onyx and those are, um, analog mixers.
[00:25:06] Andrew: The other thing you could consider is, cause I know you got that field recorder, as you could always just plug in the master out are, I guess you’re going to be running your mains to your speakers, but I mean, if you’ve got passive, you got parallel passive main outputs.
[00:25:23] You could run that to your field recorder as well.
[00:25:26] Emily: That’s a great point.
[00:25:29] Andrew: That’s probably going to sound a little better than going direct to an SD card. Just assuming that the processing on that guy’s going to be a lot better than the built-in SD card function on a mixer.
[00:25:43] Emily: No, you haven’t seen these new
[00:25:48] Andrew: it.
[00:25:48] That’s just my guess, you know, Mackey is based locally throughout.
[00:25:55] Emily: My God, they’re actually not in Woodinville anymore. They’re in Bothell. Oh, did
[00:25:58] Andrew: they
[00:25:59] Emily: move? Yeah, they moved. No, they just moved. Okay. Oh, I got you there. I got, got good. You got, got good. Let’s see. Um, it says 98 kilohertz multi-track recording.
[00:26:19] And I think that is with the SD card. No 24 bed, 96 killer hurts on the
[00:26:33] multitracks.
[00:26:36] Andrew: Oh, well, okay. So here’s, I guess here’s a good question is on the SD card is going to record each channel individually. Cause that’d be a huge pro or is it
[00:26:43] Emily: it’s a stereo mix. Stereo mix. Yeah. Yeah. Which is fine if that’s what you do. Uh, you would get for multi-track, uh, via the USB though.
[00:26:56] Andrew: Oh, Ooh.
[00:26:59] Yeah. Fancy it’s like
[00:27:05] Emily: we were really, we were, yeah, we were really looking at like, maybe getting like an Onyx 12 ended getting some loudspeakers and. ’cause we, we have enough in the band fond to do that. And we’ve been writing, we’ve been writing a lot.
[00:27:23] Andrew: So getting a capture, something spontaneous during practice kind of the thing would be
[00:27:28] Emily: yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:27:33] My God. Oh, mix aid is so cute and little. Sorry, every time I see it. I just like, such as like so cute and little I’ve been looking at mixers. God helped me. This week’s episode, they get offset podcast is sponsored by Caroline guitar company based out of beautiful Sinek, South Carolina, which is where my parents live
[00:28:05] Andrew: only been once.
[00:28:06] But I remember it being nice.
[00:28:08] Emily: It’s fine. What’s nice.
[00:28:15] Andrew: The reason why it’s nice. Cause that’s where Caroline cause our company is.
[00:28:20] Emily: Yeah, I got married in South Carolina.
[00:28:23] Andrew: Did not know that. Really? I just assumed you got married. Nashville.
[00:28:28] Emily: Why?
[00:28:30] Andrew: I don’t know. That’s where you and Rick
[00:28:31] Emily: met. Well, I mean, yeah.
[00:28:39] Yeah,
[00:28:41] Andrew: that logic doesn’t really play out very well. Does it? I
[00:28:44] Emily: mean, I guess usually you get married where the bride’s family lives.
[00:28:50] Andrew: Yeah. I guess that’s what I did.
[00:28:53] Emily: You got married in Seattle,
[00:28:55] Andrew: downtown Seattle. Really? Where Japanese Baptist church.
[00:29:01] Emily: I don’t know where that is.
[00:29:04] Andrew: A international district.
[00:29:07] Emily: Nice.
[00:29:09] Yup.
[00:29:10] Andrew: Uh, yeah. And then we had our reception at McCormick and Schmick’s and Bellevue, which is now no longer the McCormick and Schmick’s so we’re officially the, that couple is like, oh yeah, we had a reception there, but it’s not there anymore. I remember when that restaurant was. Ah, and series you used to be in that parking lot, but now that’s
[00:29:30] Emily: empty.
[00:29:31] Well, that used to be a Lazarus and now it’s JC petty. Well, first it was Lazarus and then it was a JC penny. And now it’s a mega church. Yup. That’s actually a little bit more accurate.
[00:29:47] Andrew: Uh, yeah, I’m pretty sure there’s a mega church in downtown Bellevue that fits that it’s like right next to a. Uh, bookstore like Barnes
[00:29:55] Emily: noble.
[00:29:56] Yeah. When we were in Cincinnati, as I bring attention to my bus for no reason at all, just kidding. It says Cincinnati. Um, we went to Kings island and there’s a movie theater across from Kings island that I used to go to a lot. Cause I lived like right near, like that was the closest movie theater to me.
[00:30:16] And uh, now it’s making a church because. They built a better movie theater and pretty much immediately people were like, fuck that movie theater. I’m going to go to the better one with the stadium seating. Like immediately people were like this movie theater charges too much has shitty snacks and bad seating.
[00:30:40] Yup. Yeah, it was, it was like, I have never still in like my adulthood. I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a business. Fail to a competitor that quickly, like, again, it was so fast. So, so, so fast,
[00:30:59] Andrew: really. I mean, once the doors are open, if, if, you know,
[00:31:04] Emily: I guess the community just couldn’t sustain two movie theaters.
[00:31:07] Andrew: If you’ve got 20 bucks to go see a movie and your options are option a, not that great. And you run the risk of being stuck behind somebody. No, it shouldn’t be
[00:31:19] Emily: a much better
[00:31:20] Andrew: experience. I’m going to spend my $20 the other place. I mean, that’s
[00:31:24] Emily: yeah. So shiny new movie theater.
[00:31:28] Andrew: So anyways Caroline.
[00:31:30] Emily: Oh yeah.
[00:31:32] They make great guitar pedals. Uh, they usually they come out with a somersault that’s in Hawaii.
[00:31:39] Andrew: I did not see that. Is it like white, white, or is it like a sparkle like Pearl?
[00:31:44] Emily: You know, I, I couldn’t get a, uh, like, uh, I couldn’t tell from the picture and let me pull it up. Caroline guitar company,
[00:31:57] Andrew: she liked with like the rainbows static, like that, just like that slightly pearly thing going on could be really nice.
[00:32:02] Emily: I think you’re right. It could be really nice.
[00:32:08] Of course it’s not on a website because they don’t sell direct.
[00:32:14] Andrew: So Instagram’s for C we can get there faster.
[00:32:20] Emily: Um, where is it? I swear, I saw it was I making things up. Oh, Felipe shared a video of our friend, Hilary Jones doing a video with the mega.
[00:32:40] He also shared die dream. This did I just dream this?
[00:32:45] Andrew: You might’ve just dreamed this cause I don’t see this anywhere. Wait, wait. No, that’s blue.
[00:32:55] Emily: Oh, oh boy. Phillipe a dream, a dream. The dream. My life would be.
[00:33:09] Andrew: Yeah, I’m pretty sure you’re you, uh, you haven’t faded this in your imagination.
[00:33:15] Emily: Oops. I’m sorry world. I’ve been having, I’ve been having weird dreams. Oh, I just see you. Oh no, no, no. I went on reverb. I found a limited edition color way. It’s just white. It’s just kind of a flat white, uh, it’s Cottonwood music, Emporium exclusive limited edition cream, blue colorway.
[00:33:45] Only a hundred produced worldwide.
[00:33:50] Yes, it’s really pretty.
[00:33:57] I’m going to send it to you.
[00:34:02] I honestly, it’s really nice. I like mine better, but that’s really nice. I was gonna say it like, cause I just, I’m seeing one. That’s like the blackout edition. I don’t like it. I don’t like the blackout edition.
[00:34:22] Andrew: I go back and forth on blackout additions. There’s a, there’s a handful of folks in the. The worship guitar forums that had like all blackout boards. It’s like a
[00:34:32] Emily: theme.
[00:34:34] Andrew: I think it looked, it looks nice if you’ve got like an entire board of them, like makes sense the medically, but just like one random blackout pedal or like,
[00:34:42] Emily: I mean, it makes us the magnetically, but like when I’m on, like I was on stage last night and I was like, I just think like if I could see less.
[00:34:55] I would be unhappy.
[00:34:58] Andrew: Oh, I absolutely agree. That’s why I make the Fox Cairo toppers glow in the dark.
[00:35:02] Emily: Yeah. Like I, I actually adjust my pedal settings between songs. I know, I know that people don’t do that. People don’t like to do that.
[00:35:16] Yeah. My, my board was, I had a crybaby wall. Which I, I, I don’t think I’ve, I’ve played live with a Hawaii pedal since high school. So it was funny, but I was playing a rolling stone song heartbreaker, and I was playing the
[00:35:36] So I was playing that part. So I was like, it’s essential. I was trying, I tried to get away with not, it was essential. I had the. Benson germanium boost going into the Benson fuzz, which I, I used, um, kind of as an overdrive most of the time. And Hey, you know, but again, I changed the settings, so. If I needed more gain or I wanted to use FAS, I would change the settings and the, I, I had the, um, Mozet lower drive, AKA Robert overdrive after that.
[00:36:09] So I I’d missed that game. Then the Alexander sugar cube chorus, which God, there was one song I accidentally played the entirety of the song. I’ll have a spell on you with the chorus on another example of. Sucks to not be able to see things on stage. And I played of the, uh, death by audio speed tripper, which was just a phenomenal to like, put that on at the end of like a solo to just get the like wishy swishy.
[00:36:41] Swirly sounds amazing. People went. Yes. Yeah. People actually responded really well. It was great. I loved it. They loved it. The crew of the people, what they want. Okay. You know, I feel like the G we, we warmed them up without wearing them out. And that’s the job. Carolyn is her company. I didn’t have a Carolyn pedal on my board last night.
[00:37:12] She
[00:37:13] Andrew: said,
[00:37:16] Emily: well, it’s because of the somersaults on my main band board. And I didn’t want to take it off. That’s fair. I guess I can somersault.
[00:37:25] Andrew: I think that’s the real move right
[00:37:26] Emily: there. Um,
[00:37:30] Andrew: in
[00:37:31] Emily: white, actually, I’m looking at there’s, um, a silver Navy. One is a CME exclusive that I’m looking at right now. There was a lavender one that I really was like jealous of because mine’s kind of like a, has like a lavender font.
[00:37:54] But
[00:37:58] it’s not lavender. Ooh, shit. Sorry. I saw, uh, it’s it’s cosmic purple.
[00:38:11] Okay. I think I’m going to buy another
[00:38:15] Andrew: summer peer pressure.
[00:38:23] Emily: I can, I can call it a day. Yeah, but what? Oh
[00:38:30] Andrew: no. Oh, I was just going to say that I can now call it a day that I’ve successfully done something good for the world today. And, uh, everything else today is a, is a gravy.
[00:38:45] I might be able to get away with scaring trick or treaters a couple of times, and still like be in the positive for like good to bad ratio for the day.
[00:38:51] Emily: We’re going to get one trick or treater. She’s going to come exactly at five. Nice. She’s going to be dressed as a witch. She’s already told me her name is Emily also.
[00:39:03] She’s one of the three Emily’s that lives in these six units. These units are half occupied by Emily’s. It’s amazing. We’re taking over, but, um, I was she’s she’s like five and I was telling her, oh, my niece was a witch last year. And her mom, she made her mom dresses, a witch and she made her dad dress as a sandwich.
[00:39:29] Andrew: We didn’t get a whole lot of trick or treaters last year. There’s like enough to where like, it’d be worth. We’ve got like hedges right by our front. Like really just oversized rhododendrons. And I can just like stand behind those, like wait for triggers, kind of like
[00:39:48] Emily: that clipped good
[00:39:53] Andrew: flipping in their minds,
[00:39:58] but she would probably wait until like, after like the younger kids are done trick or treating and. And then hope like, you know, the, the swords that the older kids are carrying around are actually foam.
[00:40:12] Emily: Yeah. Hope it, hope it. Did you see that? Speaking of Caroline, did you see that the wave Canon is one of the settings on the JHS?
[00:40:20] I did. Yep.
[00:40:21] Andrew: Yeah. It’s
[00:40:22] Emily: kinda neat. Yeah.
[00:40:29] Andrew: I know I do like Gratz. Uh, um, I know like J just came up the bonds. I’m like,
[00:40:37] Emily: yeah, but isn’t the big difference about rats? Like mostly like the clipping options. Isn’t the same thing about tube screamers, the fuck. The muffaletta made a lot of sense. Cause I felt like they all pretty much sounded. Sure. I’m curious about the JHS rat, but I know they would never send me one and I am not interested in buying it.
[00:41:00] Andrew: I’d be half tempted to pick it up. Like just like pick it up with like, not necessarily intent on keeping it just kind of play it for a few weeks and then maybe just sell it for a loss just for the fun of it. Yeah.
[00:41:14] Emily: I wonder if I could get like 15% off.
[00:41:21] I don’t know, Emily, Emily Hopkins did demo and it was hilarious. Did you see it? I did. Yeah. Yeah. I though she was scrambling to get that rat at the last minute, the live rat. Oh my God. If you haven’t seen her demo, you just need to. It’s essential. Rats are harmed
[00:41:43] Andrew: in the making of this.
[00:41:45] Emily: No, she, uh, she treated it with much love and care.
[00:41:50] I’m sure. It’s great, man. It’s called the pack, rat nine rats in one.
[00:41:59] Andrew: That’s what they used to call their rat mud. When JHS ran that back
[00:42:02] Emily: in the day. I see. W H T T R B B brat, dirty LA GRF wave, Canon and JJs. So the OJI is a production of the first ride ever made V1 V2. Yeah. White face. Yup. Um, turbo V6 brat.
[00:42:32] It’s a, the PROCO. By the brat guitar. Oh, it’s the roadkill RI okay. Wait really? Okay. They put that in there. Remember when that was in, do you remember when that was in like the, um, the, uh, six cycle hum wheel of pedals?
[00:42:59] Ryan and Steve thought that people weren’t sending in pedals for the wheel of pedals, because people were so afraid they’d accidentally they’d land on like the roadkill puddle. And they just cause it’s like 50 bucks. Sure. Dirty PROCO uh, released a tune, one rat called the deuce tone. Yeah. LA uh, E six is Ivan as 10 series.
[00:43:24] The super product and fat cat. For your LA metal, um, land graph. Modd okay. I don’t know that one, my familiar mode and O apostrophe, D Caroline, and then the GHS. So I’m, I’m not familiar with all of these events, so that’s interesting.
[00:43:51] Andrew: See, what I want to know is how many of the rats on that list does grant from a big, your own?
[00:43:59] Emily: I’m guessing all of them grant, how many do you own? I’m curious what he thinks same. Yes. Stack it up against the DRV.
[00:44:16] Andrew: TRVs hardly or rat.
[00:44:19] Emily: It’s a rat in spirit.
[00:44:25] Andrew: It’s its own thing.
[00:44:26] Emily: You ever look at mark Johnson’s board and just look at his DRV and just kind of smile to yourself because you look at the nob settings. It’s basically a clean boost. Funny. It’s not, it’s not bad. It’s just like, it’s, it’s cool to hear somebody use it like that.
[00:44:44] Andrew: Hmm. I mean, that likes it that way too.
[00:44:46] So it’s.
[00:44:48] Emily: It sounds good. It sounds good. And lower gain settings. You can’t say that for very many rat inspired pedals. Nope. That’s how I, that’s how I tend to use it. Whereas mine, there it is. Mine’s pink.
[00:45:02] Andrew: Pink.
[00:45:03] Emily: Yes. How far are you from having an orange pedal board? Also, are you ever going to update the firmware on those walrus pedals?
[00:45:11] Andrew: I should do that. Yeah. Um, as far as an orange pedalboard. I’ve got tuner compression and dirt taken care of. I don’t think I have an orange, I don’t have orange modulation delay reverb, so I need my west section taken care of, but then I could do a full
[00:45:34] Emily: who makes an orange reverb.
[00:45:38] Andrew: I don’t know about reverb off the top of my head.
[00:45:39] I know T-Rex makes a delay pedal. That’s what.
[00:45:45] Emily: Just T-Rex still make pedals.
[00:45:51] Andrew: I actually don’t know the answer to that off the top of my head. I remember there was something about them in the news, like a year or two ago. And I can’t remember what it was now.
[00:45:58] Emily: Is it in the mud honey? Is that the delay? No. Oh yeah. Oh no. Uh, T-Rex delay replica replica.
[00:46:14] Andrew: And then reptile.
[00:46:15] Emily: Oh, it was the replicator.
[00:46:17] I think that like
[00:46:21] Andrew: when thinking of is the reptile.
[00:46:23] Emily: Yeah. Yeah. Dang. The replicator is also orange, but it’s like 500, $600.
[00:46:33] Andrew: Uh, yeah, it’s super expensive. That’s hardly orange. It’s like a copper super expensive. And the tapes for it are hard. Not necessarily easy to come
[00:46:41] Emily: by. Yeah. I’m seeing a reptile delay two for just 160 books.
[00:46:51] Oh, we were going to talk about the holidays coming up. Weren’t we?
[00:46:54] Andrew: We were, but now we’re talking about this and I’m not complaining.
[00:47:00] Uh, anyways. Yeah, no, it just, the wet section on my board is the only thing that we need to be orange. Heck, I’ve got my orange, um, Omni expression slider as
[00:47:10] Emily: well, a bunny what’s Omni, old
[00:47:15] Andrew: blood noise endeavors. I regretted that the moment it came out of my mouth. And I don’t know why I thought that was
[00:47:26] Emily: why he thought that was appropriate.
[00:47:29] Andrew: Speaking of my knees, I smacked my knees hard on the ice. Last night, we went ice skating only got a couple of times in my entire life. And, uh, yeah. It was like, I was like finally getting comfortable, like, all right. I feel comfy now. Like, all right, let’s see how fast I can go
[00:47:50] Emily: to hubris. I
[00:47:52] Andrew: got what felt like flying on the ice was probably like barely a crawl. Uh, but I didn’t the, the, the rental skates had like, you know, the, like the spikes on the end to help you slow down. Yeah. And I didn’t lift up a skate all the way. And so it caught in the ice and I spun around. Ah, and then laying it on my, my hands and knees
[00:48:16] Emily: sounds
[00:48:18] Andrew: already turning purple.
[00:48:20] Emily: Ooh.
[00:48:22] Andrew: I don’t think I broke anything cause I like, I walked off just fine.
[00:48:29] Other than that, it was fun,
[00:48:32] Emily: man.
[00:48:33] Andrew: So holidays, eh, they’re coming up there.
[00:48:38] Emily: Yeah, and they’re going to be part shortages and I think places are going to sell out of things. So I’ve already done a lot of my holiday shopping, to be honest, like I’ve already shot, I’ve already shot for my parents. My sister-in-law and my brother.
[00:48:53] I haven’t shopped for Rick yet. He doesn’t listen to this podcast. So I guess I’m going to say, I think I’m going to get him a bass amp because his bass amp did. Yeah.
[00:49:05] Andrew: For, uh, you know, for like house friendly bass amps. Uh, I actually there’s a, the MPEG BA series I really liked. Um, but then there’s also, what was it?
[00:49:18] There’s um, a mini amp, like it was like a mini head and mini cab who made that
[00:49:26] Emily: I was when we were rehearsing. Um, the base is still listed. I want to play. So she was rehearsing with a very small little MPEG thing and it was, it was fun. Is that I’m pretty good. Got loud enough.
[00:49:47] Andrew: SVT micro. Here we go. Or micro VR. Yup. The thing, this is what I’m thinking of, why it had to be a guitar center link. I don’t know.
[00:50:04] Emily: But
[00:50:04] Andrew: I’ve played a couple of these and I’ve let me send it to you. And I’ve always really liked the way that the sound
[00:50:12] like in terms of low volume, still not have bad.
[00:50:20] Emily: He’ll want a headphone out as it, as all he wants. Um, I would selfish or like something that I can take to gigs because I play with ’em. I play bass in a van. So, yep. So versatility,
[00:50:38] Andrew: versatility is always good. Well, best of luck shopping for that. I think I’m further ahead than I am most years of this time, but not as far as I’d like to be.
[00:50:49] Uh, I think the, the one thing that, I mean, like you already touched on, but I’ll go ahead and reiterate cause, uh, and then take credit for it. Cause I’m a man is a.
[00:51:01] Emily: Wow. I know he said the quiet part out loud.
[00:51:07] Andrew: I, no, I mean, part shortages. Uh, that’s going to be a big deal. And the one thing I’d like to remind all of our listeners is be kind, please be calm.
[00:51:16] But something, we talk about all the time, but it’s a very important to be kind, especially these days because people don’t have a whole lot of control over the part shortages. It’s not like these smaller companies are able to be like, yeah, can we just like run an entire shipping container? Just for me,
[00:51:31] Emily: it’s really hard.
[00:51:33] Yep. Like peop like they’re not unloading the shipping containers for some reason.
[00:51:38] Andrew: It’s a mess. It’s a very complicated mess. So be kind to people, if they say they don’t have something in SOC, or if it’s going to be delayed or something that might not be a bad idea this year, it might be a little bit more acceptable as you know, the, the good old fashioned printout of what they’re going to be, what your loved ones will be getting in January or February when it finally comes in.
[00:52:02] Um, yeah, I’m, I’m, I’m looking at like ordering stuff right now. I’m like, oh, like I’m already like late to order some of this. Yeah, and it’s just November. So please be kind to people. That’s all I ask. Just gentle reminder.
[00:52:22] Emily: That’s always a good thing to be is good to people. Let’s be real. Um, it’s, it’s, it’s hard out there this year, especially, um,
[00:52:42] B B, B cool Pika, please. For the love of God and all that is holy. Just be nice this year to people and every year and all the time. But, um, you’re not going to get things in time. We have client, I have a client who is like, We’ve got to push stuff earlier this year, we are going to run out of stuff. Um, we’re not even going to get like certain colors, certain products before Christmas.
[00:53:14] Uh, we are going to be sending like, again, like you said, pictures of things to people, like, it’s just how it is. Like what, what, like what 10 shipping containers just fell off of a boat. Like it’s. Bananas. I saw a costume, somebody that, where they were, um, that boat that got stuck in the canal and she made it wide enough that if she turned to the side, she would get stuck in a doorway.
[00:53:51] That’s
[00:53:51] Andrew: amazing.
[00:53:52] Emily: That’s pretty good. It was pretty good.
[00:53:55] Andrew: Okay. I did a terrible job for planning. I don’t know what I’m going to be.
[00:53:59] Emily: Oh, I’ve done that. Yeah. Yeah, my costume is done. Did it, did it already. I was basically a mall goth. And now I’m a Cincinnatian no, I’m sleepy.
[00:54:19] Andrew: Yeah. Make sure, take a vitamin D pills,
[00:54:23] Emily: supplements.
[00:54:25] Why sad.
[00:54:32] Andrew: The sun’s like hardly out these days
[00:54:37] that, so I’m pretty sure that’s a pretty normal thing. Vitamin D supplements for lack of sunlight.
[00:54:44] Emily: Yeah. I prefer to get my vitamin D through food. I’m not, I’m not a big supplement guy here. The commenter are saying you’re not a good fucking hate so much. All right. I’m doing. I’m doing great. I’m doing great.
[00:55:05] Great, great grades grade grade. There’s a big
[00:55:08] Andrew: pot of soup and some hydrating liquids. Yeah.
[00:55:12] Emily: Did we do what’s new? Is there anything new for me? Did I get new stuff this week?
[00:55:19] I did.
[00:55:21] Andrew: Me and my what’s new is like the seven pounds on my belly.
[00:55:31] Emily: Look, I forgot.
[00:55:38] it’s so pretty. It’s true. I know. I’m trying to really,
[00:55:45] Andrew: it’s like not a good angle for that.
[00:55:49] Emily: Every angle is a good angle, but every it’s it’s shiny.
[00:55:53] Andrew: I do like red stars. I like that tail
[00:55:55] Emily: piece a lot too. That’s why I picked it.
[00:55:58] Andrew: That’s actually really classy. It’s so
[00:56:00] Emily: classy. It’s how does this sound good? It’s got P nineties, so, you know, it sounds good.
[00:56:26] Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Thanks for listening until next time. My name is Emily. My name is
[00:56:32] Andrew: Andrew.
