Get Offset Episode 220: Shreddy Ukes

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00:55.42
crimesofparis
Welcome to get offset. My name is Emily and ah, that’s our second take at the intro and I think we nailed it this time I nailed it I nailed it. Ah and it looks like I been as nailed some pretty.

00:56.24
Joan of Heart
And I’m Jonah Hart

01:04.50
Joan of Heart
He Yes, ah you did.

01:12.70
crimesofparis
Sick little electrics but they’re not technically guitars.

01:17.31
Joan of Heart
No I was actually surprised in their ah 2023 lineup release they actually related some you know, release some instances of a few shredy oc you know ukulele models I was surprised.

01:29.69
crimesofparis
This shredy ukulele is like oh my gosh like so if you like 4 strings instead of 6 you kind of have a few options you can play bass you can play tender guitar you could play ukulilles and.

01:33.44
Joan of Heart
And.

01:49.43
crimesofparis
Um, options are kind of limited for both tinder guitars and yukes and it’s really cool that a major guitar manufacturer has released models that are ah appealing to. Like I don’t know like what the bass demographic for these is but I it’s kind of chaotic from from ah like a distant perspective because when you think about Ukulele as you think about like more traditional kinds of folk music or like.

02:08.50
Joan of Heart
Yeah, we can get into that. Yeah.

02:17.11
Joan of Heart
Of course.

02:22.16
crimesofparis
Megan Trainor pitched all that song all about that bass on a on a ukulele um, a lot of people write on them like the acoustics. But I’ve you don’t really think about shredding on them.

02:34.95
Joan of Heart
Um, from my I guess background because again, that’s mostly where I came came from so for me bringing this kind of up is yeah for me this is kind of interesting because um in the iterations of you know, acoustic Ukuleles. You kind of see them in more of like the way an acoustic guitar looks you know sound hall in the same place and everything and when you get into custom models. That’s when you start to see a little bit ah less of the traditional look and you have more of the solid Bodyy look and the ah you know the sound hall more and the side facing the player different options. But whenever we saw like let’s say fender or someone they would have the sound hold. It would have the shape but they’re still very much the presence of this is an acoustic ukulele. But with these Iba nose models. They definitely look like kind of a solid body look.

03:23.32
crimesofparis
Yeah.

03:25.19
Joan of Heart
Of their other models that they have 1 looks more like the ice man and the other one looks like the rg model. So I mean it has like the shreddi head the metallic um ice that they have on their paint I saw it in 1 of the. Demo videos where the guy was showing it was all german I have no idea what they’re saying but I was like it really looks great with the light hits. It’s a really beautiful pearl kind of like a was it um reverse sunburst I guess like or no it is a sunburst. But yeah more of a silver black variety but really nice.

03:42.17
crimesofparis
Ah.

03:54.77
crimesofparis
Yeah I mean I actually I know it’s bad because I demoed one but I kind of forgot that fender did like the jazz master and Telecastter shaped esque ukes. Um, but yeah, they did do that. But again they were electric acoustic but still had very much an acoustic vibe.

04:00.52
Joan of Heart
Now.

04:10.90
Joan of Heart
And.

04:12.40
crimesofparis
Um, my my big question about those is like what are the strings like is it still the traditional Nylon string or are there special strings.

04:20.86
Joan of Heart
Ah, with these ones these have the Aquila Nia black strings and where the ukuleles just in general unless you are specifying wanting steel strings which is very nontraditional I have a uateli as what what they’re called ah from a um.

04:35.35
crimesofparis
Up m.

04:38.57
Joan of Heart
Custom builder of Fanner Guitar works or fanner you know fan networks ah, but yeah, those instances are more geared towards you know 4 string uuleles more like a guitar kind of ah avenue but usually commonly Aquila strings are usually on ukuleles and the gcea. And of course the ah you know the string which is the g usually being a high octave but a lot of players over the past I would say 5 years or so. A lot of people that are playing Uulele are playing more kind of rock styles or punk styles that need that low g so that has an outcome into popularity of people switching out that high g for a logi to kind of play those styles music. So I think with that kind of popularity.

05:26.84
crimesofparis
Ah.

05:28.78
Joan of Heart
I’ve started to see certain brands going into this kind of you know you want to kind of have a more like Rockin inspiredd looking Ukulele I’ve seen Voorsin which is again more steelstring but there was there have been over the past years iterations of wanting to have like a. Electric guitar looking ukulele for people that want to go down that kind of vibe but not be traditionalists. Um, but this is interesting.

05:52.76
crimesofparis
Yeah, plus I would think that if you’re I would think that if you’re playing heavier styles of music. You don’t want as much air moving through that instrument either because that’s just going to cause feedback. So that’s really fun and yeah I’ve never really seen someone super duper shred in ukulele.

06:02.37
Joan of Heart
Um, now yep.

06:12.30
crimesofparis
But you know you see people shred mandolins all the time. So that’s kind of like similar ish more similar in like size overall because youks aren’t big. They’re kind of sit between like length. They’re like a tenor guitar to mandolin. Size and they are they 2 what are they tuned like I don’t I know very little. They’re tuned um, but like in intervals like guitars are tuned mostly in fourths and ah 10 guitars are traditionally tuned in fifths.

06:32.20
Joan of Heart
Yeah, ah see reentrant tuning see yeah standard.

06:46.30
Joan of Heart
Um, I’m thinking that it’s fifths or fourth thread now. No I I know I know it by the other method not by the intervals I could look it up. Yeah is it the force it might be the fourths.

06:49.91
crimesofparis
Okay I don’t duke lily tuned in is it uka lily tuned in fifths.

07:03.25
Joan of Heart
Maybe it’s worth or is it fits? Yeah, yeah, you can I mean dude, there’s even the was it the there’s another way to tune ulees which I had at one point it was like I guess Canadians use it more? um, can’t remember what the tuning Stylus is a deuning I can’t remember.

07:07.36
crimesofparis
I Mean it’s something. It’s the kind of thing where you can tune it. However, you want um.

07:22.91
Joan of Heart
Ah, but yeah I mean it’s just a different kind of flavor of tuning the sound of ukulele. Yeah, exactly.

07:26.84
crimesofparis
Yeah, yeah, that just changes like how chords look how how to play chords which is a big thing So it’s really cool. They’re allowing enabling that certain kind of player to do what they want. They’re kind of up on Trends and.

07:42.63
Joan of Heart
Um.

07:45.72
crimesofparis
Can see like that. That’s what’s so important about ah guitars and like how do I put this manufacturers need to pay more attention to what people are actually playing and I think that it’s appealing to a niche niche.

07:55.25
Joan of Heart
Yeah.

08:03.13
crimesofparis
Because I’m assuming that’s that’s still a small niche ah is is a really cool thing to do because it’s going to definitely make fans with those really really dedicated groups of people like things like people who play 10 guitars for example are very gung ho about tenner guitars.

08:06.99
Joan of Heart
And.

08:19.76
Joan of Heart
Footname.

08:20.90
crimesofparis
Which is is funny but you know there’s a smaller community so they they talk with each other a lot more they share ideas and they they tend to know each other pretty well and ah you know guitar communities as a whole feel a lot more segmented than that because you have it.

08:37.70
Joan of Heart
And.

08:40.26
crimesofparis
I think it turns into more like styles or body shapes that people get really um, interested in like offset guitars offset guitar communities are a subset of the whole guitar community and Shreddy Yukes are a subset of ualeli community and.

08:55.47
Joan of Heart
She.

09:00.27
crimesofparis
Shreddy community.

09:02.37
Joan of Heart
Yeah, at least from my experience when it comes to ukkalili community when I was involved in it for the most part. Um, there is the group of traditionalists that are more you know obviously into the finger style or strumming styles of playing ah Hawaii this is history aspect of it. Then there’s the people that you know or me that’s putting you know, modern approach and takes putting it through effects pedals you have ah people that would be classified I guess as popular and Shreddy. Fingerstyle players like Jim I mean Jakeshi Shimabucuo and you’d have I think James Hill is another one I don’t know if he still is doing anything time. Main is very much a style of prayer that does kind of shreddy stuff. Um, but again more fingers style playing as opposed to like rock melodies I would say jake is more like he’ll play rock inspired kind of music but on a tenor style ah kamaka ukulele I think I’ve seen him several I’ve seen him quite a pletther of times. Um, uses the fe pedals and stuff like that. But there is this camp of. Traditionalist and nontraditionalist and sometimes they don’t get along so that that can sometimes be problem the baritonees obviously are like the bastard children of the um, the group because the sopranos the concerts and the tenners are more the sea tuning.

10:06.40
crimesofparis
Yeah.

10:22.58
Joan of Heart
That’s mostly the style of size that people are playing in that tuning and of course the baritones are more kind of associated with guitars because they share the same tuning and a lot of times guitar players when they play annukulele because they like the happy tone I have met. Quite a lot of people who are guitarists but they also play a ukulele as Well. It’s Portable. It’s easy to play. It’s happy you can pick it up. It weighs nothing like it pretty much if you haven’t played for a while guitar and you’re like hey this is an easy way to get back into something and it just gives an overall good feeling.

10:57.66
crimesofparis
Yeah.

10:58.88
Joan of Heart
Um, and it’s kids. It’s women. It’s men. It’s Old. It’s young. It does have a pretty good demographic but again like the Guitar World New Ily World is. Separate I mean they don’t really intermingle much and this is an interesting kind of beginning of a blend I think we’re seeing.

11:12.00
crimesofparis
Yeah, yeah, and I really like the part that you brought up that like a lot of people law different kinds of people play ukuleles and but despite that being the truth I think it’s still widely associated.

11:21.80
Joan of Heart
Yeah, yeah. Marketing isn’t yeah were toys it yeah or or yeah, it’s toys or I’ve always got when I was obviously playing you know Ukulele I would get people come up to me and ask me why aren’t you playing a real instrument.

11:30.80
crimesofparis
Widely associated I think with women and children and not quote non serious musician.

11:46.30
Joan of Heart
Like day. Everyone still thinks it’s a toy. Why don’t you play guitar and it would annoy me obviously because I was like it still is an instrument regardless of what I am using. It’s still a vehicle for a creativity and music.

11:55.92
crimesofparis
To bury. Ah.

12:01.17
Joan of Heart
So yeah, you have that always and there’s not really marketing for it I mean even the marketing that you do see for these instruments. It’s Youtube channels people doing tutorials showing whatever the models are but you don’t really have people like fender. You don’t have people like you know, big companies doing these big you know marketing splash like here’s our new lineup and models.

12:01.68
crimesofparis
Yeah, that.

12:11.38
crimesofparis
Have.

12:20.86
Joan of Heart
Like it’s not in the same vein. It’s not as present in the public eye. Yes, so I agree with you there? Yes Ono is one.

12:23.15
crimesofparis
It’s not there and and obviously there are builders who build very high in ukuleles. But we we talk about like when you when you say the the ukulele is a toy. This is an instrument that was. Developed around the same time as guitars it was introduced to Hawaii in the eighteen eighty s based on portuguese instrument. Yeah, um, so that’s that’s historically significant. Ah you you can’t see. It’s not a real instrument just because you don’t take it as seriously personally.

12:36.35
Joan of Heart
Um, yeah.

12:39.67
Joan of Heart
From the Portuguese. Yep. It is.

12:55.56
crimesofparis
Um, that it’s like saying that deejays aren’t musicians like people who actually do like like turntableism is an art. It’s not a game. It’s not easy. Ah when you when you look at like a really good deejay on stage by themselves or the band. They’re musicians.

12:55.96
Joan of Heart
Um.

12:58.95
Joan of Heart
Yeah.

13:08.63
Joan of Heart
Smooth transitions. Yeah yeah.

13:13.43
crimesofparis
And it’s the same with you know the voice as an instrument. Um, just for some reason it’s not seen at it’s still seen I think largely because of the demographic that tends to gravitate toward it which is you know people often people with smaller hands or slight motor issues in their hands.

13:32.39
Joan of Heart
Yeah, yeah.

13:33.33
crimesofparis
I know people who have bad arthritis and can’t play guitar but they can play 4 strings so they move to 10 guitars or ukuleles often 10 guitars because if you already play guitar you’re familiar with that. Um, yeah, and ah.

13:38.90
Joan of Heart
Um, yep, yep, No I’ve heard similar as well.

13:49.86
crimesofparis
It’s fun to add instruments where you don’t expect them. That’s that’s pretty cool and that’s pretty rock and roll. But I think that people like are often. It’s it’s funny because it feels like it’s the traditionalists who don’t think. Ah.

13:52.30
Joan of Heart
Yeah.

14:03.82
Joan of Heart
Yeah, yeah.

14:06.25
crimesofparis
Ah, Okulele is a real instrument or belongs in rock I’m like yeah, it’s the same age as a guitar. It’s a traditional instrument. Um, but yeah, yeah I mean you can so like look at ah I think.

14:10.73
Joan of Heart
Yeah, just using it in a different fashion I mean it doesn’t take away from its history or its prevalence.

14:25.00
crimesofparis
Ah, the instruments that come out of Hawaii like really popular hawaiian music like this the the ukulele and then there’s the the slide guitar like the pedal like I think more like a lap steel laps steel guitar um is is equitable. But like imagine if.

14:35.67
Joan of Heart
Lap steel. Yeah, that’s what I think of too.

14:43.70
crimesofparis
No one had ever like heard the steel guitar from Hawaii and thought oh you can’t apply that to country music country music would wouldn’t it would never have sounded the same. No so it’s exciting to to bend these things because you never know.

14:50.36
Joan of Heart
Oh God wouldn’t be what it is? Yeah no.

15:01.14
crimesofparis
If it could really connect and resonate and be almost genre defining. Yeah.

15:04.40
Joan of Heart
Exactly it could actually an introduction of an instrument that is not traditional to a style of form of music could actually revitalize or freshen it and take in a direction that may actually change the whole you know music I guess genre as a whole.

15:18.59
crimesofparis
Um, yeah.

15:23.14
Joan of Heart
Like I think it’s actually good sometimes to inject something completely new and unorthodox kind of the kicking a pants to like hey this is this is something exciting and new and we’ve never heard before Wow This is interesting. Yeah.

15:33.16
crimesofparis
Yeah I mean it’s happened a lot of music and and it’s responsible for basically every innovation within it is somebody saying you know that thing that we’ve never that’s never really been done or at least done well in in in this other genre. Let’s try it. Maybe we’ll make it work.

15:48.35
Joan of Heart
Yeah, yeah, or it’s it’s or it’s like the rock enroll mentality of ah fucking I don’t care what anyone thinks I’m want to do what I do you don’t like it I don’t care. Yeah.

15:52.87
crimesofparis
And think it’s really cool like.

15:57.99
crimesofparis
Yeah, yeah, that’s pretty rock and roll and again like it’s a great obviously Ukulele is a great writing tool I I think there are a lot of instruments out there that are really good writing tools that just kind of get a.

16:07.50
Joan of Heart
She had said her.

16:15.95
Joan of Heart
Um, yeah, yeah.

16:17.84
crimesofparis
Ah, stamp of toy on them. Um, the Omni chod’ is probably a good example until I did my Q corrd video I didn’t realize how many people actually recorded with Omni chods and Q coreds that was really cool like learning that minus the bear. For example, use an omnicord because I looked at him’m like oh this is really fun I don’t think it’s.

16:26.10
Joan of Heart
Me too. Yeah.

16:37.14
crimesofparis
Quite a toy I think it has more value than like just a toy um from like a writing perspective but just be able to hit chords. Even if you don’t have like the strongest working knowledge of music you can still like put things together and kind of make sounds and maybe write something kind of cool. Um, but.

16:39.99
Joan of Heart
Ah.

16:48.20
Joan of Heart
Um, and E knowledge. Yeah yeah, I Yeah I Yeah I appreciated that that the that it was accessible that way to people.

16:56.87
crimesofparis
Yeah, like.

17:01.98
Joan of Heart
And I have an original like vintage like 80 s like Omnicord and even like when I was you know playing with I’d done like a stream where like people get on and we put it through my fe pedals and stuff like that that was a lot of fun. Um, but yeah, thinking about ways in which you’re exploring new sounds new instruments.

17:04.42
crimesofparis
Yeah, my.

17:20.70
Joan of Heart
Ah, when I was looking at the omnicord I learned about artists and musicians that used it in their music that I otherwise wouldn’t even fathomed and the way they used it too and I was like oh that’s really interesting now I hear it now.

17:27.13
crimesofparis
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

17:33.34
Joan of Heart
And when I music I like I pinpoint I was like oh that’s an omni chord or that’s like you know something similar.

17:39.14
crimesofparis
Yeah I mean you don’t know until and like it’s like getting a car then you see that car everywhere kind of thing. Um, yeah I mean just being inventive and trying new things I think is kind of it’s the most exciting part I think of what we do.

17:41.65
Joan of Heart
I Guess this great.

17:54.99
crimesofparis
Haha stupid phone. What I need what I need to do is get a real webcam. But I yeah I’ve been asking for one for a while but it’s just a. It’s a it’s a it’s.

17:56.61
Joan of Heart
Ah, no yeah.

18:02.27
Joan of Heart
Well I mean the logic Brio is a bad. Yeah I get you? yeah.

18:10.97
crimesofparis
It’s ah it’s a larger conversation ah about working with with people. Um, yeah, but I think it’s really cool. They they’re really I They think they look great I wish I wish they did tender guitars too. Maybe maybe someday really the yeah.

18:20.25
Joan of Heart
Yeah, they look great at that would be good. They did have a nylong guitar that came out too I think at the same time.

18:30.98
crimesofparis
I tin guitars that that space in Electrics is still really dominated by eastwood and not that not to say anything bad about eastwood because I think it’s great that they’re making them I think that the strings are space too far apart? yeah.

18:33.48
Joan of Heart
Oh. No.

18:45.26
Joan of Heart
Okay, yeah I guess you mean because some attendant guitar. It’s more narrow right? As far as.

18:50.10
crimesofparis
Like um, it should be more narrow but to save money they use like the same bridge on like a bass guitar for a lot of the models. Um, but the astro jet That’s the one that I have they don’t make it anymore. It’s it is the same spacing as the standard.

18:57.95
Joan of Heart
Ah I get you? yeah.

19:02.89
Joan of Heart
Maybe I.

19:08.83
crimesofparis
6 string like in the vein of like a um Gibson um nut with but just like 2 thirds of taught the whole thing. So um, yeah, that’s what I play the most I also have my word to go. It’s back here. My oh.

19:10.81
Joan of Heart
So well.

19:25.36
crimesofparis
My fender tenor which you know for I guess just wasn’t worth it for them to make these I think it was probably like you have to do so you can’t just like automate all of it like you have to this is a different neck. This is a different body.

19:28.70
Joan of Heart
That’s Awesome. I.

19:39.98
Joan of Heart
Um, it Yeah, it’s completely different. Yeah yeah.

19:44.59
crimesofparis
Different hardware. So it’s hard to make it scale. That’s what I’m looking for um for a small market and I guess they just had a lot of trouble making them and decided to not make more.

19:53.19
Joan of Heart
And that makes sense.

20:00.16
crimesofparis
But you look at the use prices on these things like these were originally like $800 and now you’re hard pressed to find 1 for like twice that like they’re they’re expensive. Yeah because they got it right in a lot of ways I think.

20:07.67
Joan of Heart
Hoof Yeah scarcity. Yeah.

20:14.24
Joan of Heart
Ah, yeah one I guess as close as I have to something like that is I have a pono. Ah, it’s a was it a nui which is called. It’s a hybrid instrument that was made. Which is a combination between the size of a tender guitar but it is a baritone ukuloo we with nh on strings and like 2 kind of metal wound I think on the first 2 like that gives the overall size I guess warmness of an acoustic tenor. But like yeah, it still has like the baritone kind of Hyperd Uulele like same tuning.

20:46.20
crimesofparis
Oh.

20:48.28
Joan of Heart
So but I like I like when they do hybrids or other versions or modern takes on things to kind of push things in a way but I understand at the same time market wise when you try to do this and you have another half of your you know your lineup of your models which are basically kind of um. Easy to make those because you already have the Nexts you already have all that for your demographic and market and then you have the specialty item and if it gets too difficult to make and not cost effective. Yeah I could see how they could be like in the long run this probably wasn’t the best you know it’s not possible.

21:23.20
crimesofparis
Um, yeah, that’s the sad sad facts about capitalism. Yeah, it’s okay, this is just a world that we live in now.

21:24.50
Joan of Heart
I was unfortunate. Yeah, oh yeah.

21:36.25
Joan of Heart
No of course, um, and also one of the things to mention about these i’b been as Ukuleles is that yes you can put them through your pedal board or plug them in because they definitely come. They are acoustic and electric. They pretty much come with a ah preamp onboard tuner. Batteries all that So you’re good with a pickup. Oh yeah.

21:54.23
crimesofparis
That’s really cool. Yeah to do both like that. Yeah I’m gonna actually look at the Ivan I looked at them when you post them I haven’t really looked since.

22:00.66
Joan of Heart
Yeah, go look the red one The Red R G One is like my favorite I was like that. One’s awesome and the way that they did the sound port because in custom ukule les a lot of people started to style them where the sound hole was more towards the slope.

22:17.11
crimesofparis
Yeah, that’s that’s for per that’s for personal hearing. Yeah.

22:18.70
Joan of Heart
Or more towards your face on the horn I Guess of ah, the ukulele for yeah, personal hearing of the instrument rather than projecting it outwards like the traditional soundhole I Like the way they designed it on this Rg model as Well. It’s kind of like a slotted look. Um, very modern I Really like that because sometimes people have like Paw shapes. Ah cute things or like a circle there but this is really nice. The modern take that they did on it.

22:41.76
crimesofparis
Yeah, I’m just gonna Google Ibanazu Galele O go lay lady.

22:45.66
Joan of Heart
Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, they have they have traditional looking ones as well I looked at their lineup but these 2 ones this year are pretty much the more like guitar rock looking ones as opposed to the traditional ones that they have.

22:52.79
crimesofparis
There They are.

22:59.91
crimesofparis
Yeah I like the UICT 101 that’s so funny looking to me.

23:07.50
Joan of Heart
Yeah I actually when I when um, we were first looking at that that was one of the things Carlos would said it was like it’s kind of looks like Prince or like something like the Emily would probably like yeah the horn. Yeah, he was like.

23:15.10
crimesofparis
That hors him and I hate being so fucking predictable. Ah.

23:19.65
Joan of Heart
Ah, yeah, we were looking and he was like yeah you would like the one that was like the RG the shredty one. But yeah Emily would probably like that one? Yes, no no no I’ll tell him he’s got you? ah.

23:28.70
crimesofparis
Yeah, not wrong. Carlos definitely not wrong. Ah for sure. Ah, so um, what’s new with me is I I played a show on.

23:39.50
Joan of Heart
Missions.

23:45.60
crimesofparis
Friday night at the sunset in Seattle on base. It was one a great show this guy named thadus and thalla opened up and I had the Kathy Moore power ah trio I think super power trio um backing him and I was just really just such great musicianship and I talked to them after they’re like.

23:47.97
Joan of Heart
Awesome.

24:03.71
crimesofparis
Yeah, we had 1 rehearsal last night I’m like wow well I guess it was fresh, just impressed with always impressed with the skill of those musicians and then the lovely and talented Kim virant played and then we played and actually I took off the um, the brace for the show and ah.

24:04.78
Joan of Heart
Oh Wow Oh my god.

24:23.10
crimesofparis
Helped a little like because if I was to play with if I was as I did decide that like there are some songs that there’s some songs I need to play with a pick and I would have had to play so close to the bridge so we would not have it mute. Um, the string So I took off the brace and ah.

24:24.78
Joan of Heart
Yeah, a little restrictive? Yeah, ah yeah, wouldn’t have. Wolf I can imagine. Yeah, we’re thing.

24:38.68
crimesofparis
I’m feeling better today but I was feeling it yesterday I was feeling it the day after the show. Yeah so um, the show was great. It was it was probably about half half full the Viney which isn’t bad for a rainy ass night like the first weekend after New Year’s so.

24:52.94
Joan of Heart
Well, that’s good if it’s a rainy night. Yeah, that’s actually pretty good. Well yeah yeah, that’s snoreel for you guys.

24:57.78
crimesofparis
Ah, Seattle it’s a lot of rainy nights in the winter but still but still it was a really good turnout good energy. Um, yeah yeah I had a really good time. Um I used my ah I got some new in your monitors I got the ue 18 sound signature.

25:14.43
Joan of Heart
Oh my god.

25:14.44
crimesofparis
Actually got them the day of the show. So I was like charging on my wireless stuff hoping hoping my new ones would come in because they they get like I have the Ue R R the reference remaster that they did in conjunction with Capital Records recording Studio I mean.

25:27.30
Joan of Heart
Um.

25:29.19
crimesofparis
And they’re great. They’re very flat though. Um and they don’t get as loud and that’s on purpose. So I got the Ue eighteen that has more head room and ah this sounds so good I was I got them in and I was just ah, pulling up.

25:32.63
Joan of Heart
Okay.

25:44.22
crimesofparis
Title like I have the master quality recording title package and sing the songs I listen to a thousand times thinking like whoa. There’s a lot in the song I haven’t heard like a stat like I I know we say it a lot but like oh these master quality recordings and then you get like just like.

25:50.55
Joan of Heart
Oh that’s cool.

25:56.58
Joan of Heart
Yeah now.

26:02.44
crimesofparis
Really really nice earphones or headphones you’re like oh shit I Never quite understood that like the effect being applied to one part of a vocal performance in the song like oh that’s a phaser I Always just thought it was distortion when I was listening to it as a kid.

26:11.90
Joan of Heart
You know? Yeah I Yeah I’ve never kind of had that kind of like experience like when I was growing up I just had the you know when you rock around the big head muffs kind of like enclosed experience. But.

26:20.54
crimesofparis
Yeah.

26:25.92
crimesofparis
Move? yeah.

26:30.21
Joan of Heart
Looked up at them over the years but I have yet to have like an in ear modern kind of listening to music kind of experience. So I hope to in in in the future to get that so you can I can have those kind of experiences but the difference between the one that you had before and the one that you just got.

26:34.75
crimesofparis
Now. Um, yeah.

26:47.44
Joan of Heart
Did you notice a difference between the 2 Um.

26:50.26
crimesofparis
Oh yeah, that like like the big thing is a lot more headroom. Um there. There’s a lot I mean there’s always going to be a lot of clarity and it just it wasn’t quite as flat like it was in certain places like the low end felt more more press and not that it was boosted.

27:05.71
Joan of Heart
Yeah, it didn’t seem Basey It was balanced. Okay I get you.

27:07.37
crimesofparis
Or anything. Um, it was really I was a really nice balance versus being just perfectly flat which I think makes it better. Ah for for live music and then just kind of enjoying music. Um, when whenever you want? Yeah I think there there are more drivers and then let me actually pull up the differences.

27:18.48
Joan of Heart
Um, then and.

27:23.76
Joan of Heart
Yeah, pull pull it up of the differences between the two cause I’d be interested because again for me when I’m mixing and recording like I’ll have my monitors or whatever but sometimes I’ll go through my audio technica like m 40 s which is pretty much like a flat frequency to kind of like mix. But.

27:27.31
crimesofparis
Ultimate years.

27:42.64
Joan of Heart
You know I balance between the two cis obviously so I don’t have artificial coloring so it’d be interesting to hear what the difference between those 2 are.

27:50.18
crimesofparis
Yeah, we’ve pulled these up. Ah well, one other difference is these are ours. They are the they they they only go to the first bin in the ear canal and the I Ams go to the second it makes them more secure kind of in a different way like these kind of have to lock into the.

28:01.55
Joan of Heart
Ah, okay.

28:06.11
crimesofparis
Kind of the folds of my ears a little bit differently but you ERR has 3 drivers those are the capital recording studio ones. Um, and then the eighteen plus pro which is what I got now has 6 so um.

28:08.52
Joan of Heart
Okay, that’s this interesting. Yeah okay 3 drivers.

28:21.63
Joan of Heart
Ah, okay I see.

28:24.17
crimesofparis
Even more clarity more dynamic range um increase volume and headroom.

28:27.96
Joan of Heart
That’s you and when I was kind of looking through research and at times asked you about it and just another looking around. Yeah I saw the difference of numbers of drivers being the difference. Obviously not only price point but the quality. Um what they were talking about and the balance of frequencies.

28:40.14
crimesofparis
Yeah, yeah.

28:43.99
Joan of Heart
But it’s interesting when to hear you talk about the ah I guess distance in which in your ear it goes like the first canal versus the second canal I wouldn’t have thought of those things as far as you know so that’s interesting.

28:49.12
crimesofparis
Him.

28:54.82
crimesofparis
Yeah, it it keeps them locked in a little bit better. It takes getting used to like you talk about some speakers are like oh you have burn and so you have to play them for a certain amount of time before they sound good. This is like kind of that for like just the comfort in your ears. So you just.

29:06.27
Joan of Heart
Yeah.

29:13.90
crimesofparis
Ah, so yeah, that’s why I just put them in and listen to music when I got them so that I could get used to because I was like oh man that that is pretty far in there but it gets a lot more comfortable just as your ears get used to the sensation to the point where you can’t really feel them like um so.

29:14.40
Joan of Heart
Yeah.

29:21.26
Joan of Heart
Okay, no well.

29:30.72
crimesofparis
Just so people know who who don’t know like a traditional earbud that you buy doesn’t have balanced armatures. It has a a single dynamic driver and that dynamic driver that one is responsible for all the lows all thements all the highs and it’s not uncommon to. Kind of lose 1 for the others but with um, having 6 balanced drivers or multiple drivers even the base level ultimate ears has a separate high driver and a low driver so there’s.

29:51.94
Joan of Heart
Ah, but.

30:05.78
crimesofparis
1 is just responsible for the lows. It’s it’s a normal earbud is Jack of all trades master of none and ah when you get into like higher quality earbuds or earphones or in your monitors what you’re often looking for is like Multiway crossovers just.

30:12.26
Joan of Heart
So yeah.

30:25.63
crimesofparis
Different things that are responsible for different frequencies so they can do that really really well and it it just creates a lot better clarity. So I think you know you E ultimate ears. They kind of.

30:31.83
Joan of Heart
Nice.

30:43.89
Joan of Heart
I.

30:44.49
crimesofparis
Change the game for in your monitors. They’re the ones you’re going to see most in people’s ears on tv and stuff. Um, their lowest level is $500 but I do think it’s a good investment if you’re playing a lot and you will be absolutely shocked at how small of a venue you can get away with using in your monitors and.

30:55.90
Joan of Heart
Okay, yeah.

31:03.18
crimesofparis
And you probably will want to because maybe they can just afford 2 wedge monitors one for the drummer and one for the front. Yeah I played places like that before and they could have done an iems via their ox outs or something but they just couldn’t they didn’t have the space or the um.

31:07.30
Joan of Heart
Like oh God here.

31:20.00
Joan of Heart
Ah.

31:22.16
crimesofparis
Budget to get multiple purchase. Ah yeah.

31:24.88
Joan of Heart
Yeah, ah I’ve I’ve had instances of like the house not having the right gear and having to sing sometimes without having something pointed at me to be able to hear myself and that was so incredibly difficult. So I’m sure.

31:30.90
crimesofparis
Yeah.

31:37.45
crimesofparis
Yeah.

31:39.33
Joan of Heart
That would have been handy for me in those situations because I just had to put one finger in my ear so I could hear myself and then be able to like saying.

31:45.79
crimesofparis
Yeah, one one I think that if if anybody like drummers and vocalists can really benefit from any of your monitors because drummers can like feed in click tracks. So they can stay on beat. Um, and.

31:52.34
Joan of Heart
Um.

31:57.20
Joan of Heart
Yeah, this one.

32:00.15
crimesofparis
It’s hard for drummers to hear, especially the bigger. The room the louder the room they were literally invented for a drummer. Well the company started for a drummer. Um, ah Alex Van Halen yeah so Alex ah.

32:08.00
Joan of Heart
Ah I didn’t know that? yeah.

32:14.55
crimesofparis
He couldn’t hear things over the crowd and over the stage noise. Um, and if you crank up drum monitors they start to feed into drum microphones kind of bad ad sound and I’ve been at gigs where that’s happened. Um, weirdly I’m like what is this weird.

32:20.44
Joan of Heart
Oh shit. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah doubling and yeah, clipping all things. Yeah here. Yeah, the mike.

32:34.45
crimesofparis
Boo coming through and it’s because the ah kick drum microphone or the snare drum microphone was picking up the wedge monitor. Um, and then for vocalists you just don’t have to sing as loud now.

32:39.81
Joan of Heart
Yeah, off, yeah, you don’t have to strain as loud just to hear yourself or like do the whole like you know, stick the finger in your ear the whole time which is not exactly you know, um.

32:52.80
crimesofparis
Yeah, um, yeah, yeah, save your hearing. Yeah and you can pick exactly what you want and it blocks out a lot of other noise so you can like I just had the kick drum.

32:59.66
Joan of Heart
Germ wise is probably good. Yeah hours A you’re hearing. Yeah.

33:09.24
crimesofparis
Singers vocals and the singer’s guitar and I had my bass. Yeah I mean the the idea with wedges is that you can pick 2 But yeah, you’re not going to be able to like if the guitar is and we all love turning up the volume on our guitars.

33:12.80
Joan of Heart
You The facts that you could pick is actually pretty awesome.

33:19.45
Joan of Heart
No.

33:26.66
crimesofparis
Turns some up to the point where you just can’t hear what’s coming out of the monitor as well anymore loudstages are just the bane of any sound person’s existence and you know most musicians. So yeah, um I recommend people checking out just various kinds of inear monitors I used.

33:31.53
Joan of Heart
Ah, yes.

33:43.30
crimesofparis
For the wireless system I use the x vibe I think it’s the u 2 unit or something u four maybe works perfectly just super easy and there’s 6 channels so you can use them with up to 6 people in the band. Yeah, that’s a.

33:46.66
Joan of Heart
I.

33:54.32
Joan of Heart
Okay, no I No it’s good I I appreciate the topic because I have pretty much no experience waiting your monitors but I’ve been obviously.

34:00.18
crimesofparis
That’s about all I got to say about that I guess.

34:08.92
Joan of Heart
You know, trying over the last year or so doing research but I know the price point is usually what kind of puts me off or I get distracted by another pedal. Ah I know in the long run. Exactly.

34:14.90
crimesofparis
I Mean you can get that they’re more valuable if you’re playing live a lot and they are valuable in the long run for for sure I mean they’re going to save your hearing. So.

34:30.23
Joan of Heart
Course you nice.

34:32.16
crimesofparis
Eventually and I also got ah a set of custom fitted um earplugs So that was really cool. Yeah, ah ended up using those last night because I ended up going out to some shows last night. There’s a woman who’s interested in hiring a lead guitarist so I went out to see the music and I was like ah I I’ll try I’ll maybe.

34:51.35
Joan of Heart
That would be great. No I would actually be a cool experience. It happens. Yeah, it’s like I don’t have time to do things like Emily stop going out and picking up strays I mean bands. Ah.

34:51.59
crimesofparis
Maybe I’ll get I might give that one a go so Rick wants me to stop adopting bands.

35:03.23
crimesofparis
Ah I think that I think I stole that from my french art Sean Crawford who says like my girlfriend says they need to stop adopting bands like do you do you know I don’t know.

35:09.74
Joan of Heart
Um, yeah, yeah, do you do there.

35:21.52
crimesofparis
Um, cool. Ah, what are we talking about next or what’s do with you is. That’s what we’re talking about next.

35:30.67
Joan of Heart
Um, well I mean what’s new with me I guess for the most part got through the new year just basically starting to get into the nitty gritty with the ah marshmallow demo. I took this week in any of my spare time to go over each of the modes. So I kinded up. Yeah, the Alexander yep the alexander marshmallow petal going through the modes make sure that I understand them and then start to think about I think over this weekend the next couple of days start to write up.

35:49.77
crimesofparis
Sussy alexander petals March marshmallow.

35:56.26
crimesofparis
A little.

36:02.62
Joan of Heart
Um, the storyboard. Um and just try to do it in such a way that um I show the things that I liked about it and and I did actually like quite a number of things that I didn’t see other people kind of demonstrate and I think it’s gonna be really fun with this one in looking at. It and ways of I Guess ambient guitar players because with a little effort. You can do a lot of really interesting cool things if you have let’s say your board full mix wet and you have everything in the loop playing. But now you want to introduce something new in a certain part of whatever you’re composing.

36:23.67
crimesofparis
Left.

36:41.28
Joan of Heart
In which you’re just playing a few notes and let’s say the rp mode is just introducing um ah steps within the background and shifts which you’re controlling those pitches up and down in kind of a chord progression with maybe playing a few notes. It’s really great I think for somebody that doesn’t have. Ah, theory background and just for the most part fuck arounds and finds outs. You know, like so I think it’s really going to be a fun way to explore this pedal I already like quite a few modes in it and yeah so I’m basically in that half the the you know the art prep. And the you know marshmallow itself is pretty much ready for you know me to put the audio in and stuff like that I just have to write it and um, that’s pretty much what I’m getting into next. Um, and obviously I was watching some cartoons and stuff like that because. The pedal is going to have some I guess influences you think Alvin and the chipmunk so I was watching some of that to kind of get some inspiration of personality wise like for the character. So again, just music wise and also just starting to get in the face of like okay we’re going to get into the writing half now. To explain how this thing works because it does have an alternate function mode which is behind the main as to you know? Ah, if you want to adjust things. There’s a secondary function which gives you more control of things. So I think that’s really good to do that I don’t think I’m going to do the normal way in which I did before I’m still on the fence of how to do.

38:15.62
Joan of Heart
That half of showing the demonstration of these because the way this pedal goes just a standard looper kind of demo I think I’m going to be more of a this is what I like you know and I mean this setting and playing this I don’t think I can do that with a looper kind of thing So I’ll probably just still show the pedal but it may be more of like.

38:24.99
crimesofparis
Yeah.

38:34.14
Joan of Heart
I’ll be playing off camera but you’ll obviously be able to hear that recording in that segment showing the pedal of that sound so again I’m still in the processing of how to do that but one half of it is done and now it’s just basically the writing personality and that port and then I start recording. My parts and voicing the character and then just kind of editing and piecing it all together. So I’m hoping to get all that done this month hoping you know my life you know doesn’t my you know life doesn’t throw any you know 2023 behaves the rest of the way.

39:00.17
crimesofparis
Oh yeah.

39:09.92
crimesofparis
No more no more. The.

39:12.75
Joan of Heart
But no more no, not not like 2022 love you you stay there. You stay there? Um I’m hoping obviously the rest of the year gets in my you know doesn’t get in my way as much but that’s pretty much what’s up with me just trying to focus on work and getting these type of things done family.

39:20.59
crimesofparis
Oh.

39:30.70
crimesofparis
Yeah.

39:30.56
Joan of Heart
Kind of deal and music. So I’ve also talked to someone already in collaboration of doing some work apart from this and I want to as far as like Tiktok and things like that too hopefully get more followers so I can do live there um doing instances.

39:43.88
crimesofparis
Yeah, go follow. Go follow Joan on Tiktok.

39:47.82
Joan of Heart
Yes, Joan Joan of heart please. Um I want to do my voice singing little parts of covers through effect pedals I figured that be cool and of course you see the pedal board. It’s me on top and then the pedal board below so you can see what part of my effects chain is being used and I think that’s also helpful.

39:56.42
crimesofparis
Um.

39:59.14
crimesofparis
Yeah.

40:05.39
Joan of Heart
For vocalists to see somebody using their voice and way through an effects pedal board and I really do want to separate you know I do the animated demo channel. But I also which is why it’s Joan of heart pedal playhouse I am still a musician and an artist separately. So I’m thinking having these.

40:11.85
crimesofparis
Ah.

40:19.88
crimesofparis
Um.

40:24.63
Joan of Heart
Platforms having a different version of what I do separately may be good. So obviously I don’t get writers you know, don’t get creative blocks and I also have my feet in different aspects. Always so that’s my plan hopefully that you know I’m able to do that kind of thing but that’s at least.

40:28.92
crimesofparis
Yeah.

40:35.59
crimesofparis
Sure.

40:40.69
Joan of Heart
When I’m kind of starting to think about? Yeah oh now you’re came in. Yeah.

40:43.25
crimesofparis
Nice yeah, that sounds exciting I feel yeah on 2023 needs to behave itself. Unfortunately I’ve I’m just caring I’m caring I’m carrying bullshit from 2022 into 2023 against my well everything bad that has happened to me so far this year has been against my well.

41:01.88
Joan of Heart
Yes, um, me too I don’t yeah I don’t I don’t want to be yeah in the middle of um.

41:02.15
crimesofparis
Ah I just want to be left out of narratives and issues and shit you know it’s just yeah.

41:16.61
crimesofparis
Man like the last couple months of the year there was just so much like interpersonal stuff and and getting sick and then falling down and like I just I want to be left to fuck alone a little bit when it comes to kind of stuff like man vibes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

41:18.91
Joan of Heart
Oh my god.

41:28.60
Joan of Heart
Yes, oh yeah, no I feel you I feel you we’re on the same page. Um, the other thing. The other thing I wanted to mention and I know we’re steering the topic.

41:36.62
crimesofparis
Yeahp Hipp Yeah buta.

41:41.69
Joan of Heart
Away from me and this um there was a new invention that just came out. Um yes, a new invention for let’s say a replacement of like your whammy bar or expression bar. However, you want to call it ah verbrato. Yeah exactly I goes it’s it’s.

41:47.76
crimesofparis
Invention.

41:56.30
crimesofparis
Vibrato Trimmolo arms.

41:59.92
Joan of Heart
A bar of many names. Um, there was a collaboration with a robe ah was it rough. Gauge Mark Benjamin and Umfree Mcgees guitarist Jake Senegger S Sinninger if I say it wrong my apologies. Um, it basically is a kind of like a if you think of a palm. Vibrado or like a style off the bridge in which you can kind of manipulate your guitar to have some sort of a verbrado that is less shaky and more in the frame of like a singer brabrado. Um, you can use either your palm or your fingers to adjust. This came out of Jake playing for many years um he would always pick up the bridge himself because the the bar would either be completely out of the way. No timing to grab it and also would get in the way of his strumming or playing so he wanted to have something that you could easily reach back and get. And it would hold the pitch when you would bend it and it wouldn’t be in a way that was shaky I thought that was really interesting that kind of easy install like you can solve it uninstall it but it gives you kind of a control in which you’re not just grabbing the bridge. And you hold the pitch while you’re playing in certain instances without that kind of a kind of shake like a shallow. Yeah, it’s interesting. Yep Jake Blade yeah I mean I I can understand kind of like instead of.

43:13.82
crimesofparis
It looks kind of like a it’s called the it’s called the Jake Blade and I’ll be honest I think that’s stupid looking.

43:28.71
Joan of Heart
Grabbing the bridge having something that looks like a lever I guess in a sense that you can grab for some people if it’s PrSJ and l stratacastster kind of style guitars for the most part which I guess people who play those studied guitars kind of like what they’re going for is those kind of things. Um, it is interesting to see tech new technology.

43:29.94
crimesofparis
No.

43:39.39
crimesofparis
Ah, home.

43:48.44
Joan of Heart
Is The reason why you know it’s not something probably I you know would use. Um, but I did find in watching his video and how he demonstrated it. Um, the interesting kind of way of control that that kind of ah way of a. Um I Guess expression control from your bridge that you can get if you want to have something that’s out of the way so innovations I think are good whether they look stupid or not I mean maybe someone will generate one that looks you know, not like that. But the just the.

44:04.32
crimesofparis
Oh.

44:18.54
crimesofparis
I think I think Leila City and um max hydeman of Heiddeman Instruments already did that though. Well I just sent you a link if you scroll down to the second the second thing the the tunatone palm vibrato I know.

44:22.82
Joan of Heart
Will have and that. Okay, oh yeah.

44:34.73
crimesofparis
Right now. It’s only for tunatone instruments and I don’t really know how you install in posts but like it’s just the bar that you push down on it kind of seems like the same thing. Yeah, but.

44:36.45
Joan of Heart
Yeah I saw that one? Yep I saw that one I thought that was pretty cold This one installs like it looks like it just attaches to the bridge. Ah.

44:47.76
crimesofparis
Yeah, it definitely has that benefit going for it. But um, yeah, it’s so pretty. Its that’s pretty affordable but I still think did it have to look so moving.

44:50.60
Joan of Heart
And I think and introductory I think it’s like just $99 yeah it’s say you’re like I can’t get past the look. Yeah.

45:00.36
crimesofparis
Well, my question is like there are those um takes on B benders that attach to the the bridge of the guitar I’m like why can’t it just be like that one a little bar hanging out that you can just like a short one like that. Yeah yeah, because people have those.

45:07.46
Joan of Heart
Like oh yeah, that would be cool. Yeah, something like that that would just bend that 1 string all that would be awesome somebody somebody do that somebody do that we want that and yeah.

45:20.43
crimesofparis
Yeah I don’t know if it be an issue with like tension because I also look at that and I don’t know if it’ that my wrist is in a lot of pain right now. But I’m thinking about like how much tension how do you set like I feel like it would need some so like how many Springs do you put in there to.

45:26.80
Joan of Heart
Consider it somebody that has risk Carpal tunnels they yeah I get you.

45:39.73
crimesofparis
Make that tension like manageable.

45:43.75
Joan of Heart
That’s that’s a good question so anybody watching this podcast you have any input of well obviously in the live chat if youre to the premiere or even in comments like let us know what your thoughts on and are do it. Do it.

45:54.63
crimesofparis
Yeah, yeah, so do it do it do it right so um we wanted to talk about cattle and bread just south of me in Portland which is a place I’ll be going at some point this year um while I need to I’ve been a while.

46:01.16
Joan of Heart
Um, yes, no awesome.

46:12.63
crimesofparis
Um, they released 1 and an entire new look for their 2 existing formula pedals the f five f six which is like a baseman and the 55 which is like a tweed. It’s called the formula 51 and it’s like an homage to the tweed champ. Which I like champ amps I have not played a tweed champ.

46:35.61
Joan of Heart
Yeah, um I haven’t either. Um I at least know at least what what I saw the research that the 51 was based off of the fender tweed ah champ was at chap I 800 um, my experience though with Ketlelin bread and their ampsimms. Ah petals. I have the dirty little secret and it’s like a marshall stacked I love this and this was like 1 of I play out of a vox so I wanted some other sound beside my vox at the time and ah this is a really great sounding pedal I think I have the version 3 what this one is There’s definitely different iterations and designs dirty.

46:56.21
crimesofparis
Um, always ah.

47:01.38
crimesofparis
Yeah.

47:13.39
Joan of Heart
Little secret inside. There is a switch that gives like a superlead and a super base like kind of tone so you have a choice of I guess the um parameters of how you want I guess the transistors or the amsim to kind of simulate the high or low end frequencies of it. Um, but yeah, they have another one I think it’s the Galileo that also um, does like a voxile kind of amps in but this these 3 here are more kind of aimed at the fender tweeds in the basement amps. Um, the price point is really great too because we look a pedal.

47:43.37
crimesofparis
Yeah.

47:48.76
Joan of Heart
Ah, fax pedal inflation and everything is like two hundred or above and this kind of sits relatively to decent.

47:53.24
crimesofparis
Yeah, these are all. It’s like the fifty one in the 5 the five f 6 are one eighty new and the fifty five is one ninety new. Yeah.

48:00.31
Joan of Heart
You know like ten bucks more yeah the the things that I thought were really interesting. Besides the design I love the graphics on these I really do like them.

48:09.71
crimesofparis
Actually do too. They’re they’re growing on me I like the little like over the led. There’s this a cute little like line drawing I Really like that.

48:21.34
Joan of Heart
Yeah, and the fact that some of these ah ampsyms give you a lot more control over the original like the ah formula 51 the original you know tweed amp was just a 1 knob like volume knob. That’s all you got like.

48:36.10
crimesofparis
Ah.

48:36.55
Joan of Heart
So the the fact that this gives you like a um, a sag a gain. Ah you know in a tone alongside the original volume momm is great and the sag control to degradation of the transformer to fine tune The expression range and dynamics of the amp sounds so it can sound.

48:40.96
crimesofparis
And it’s on.

48:52.88
Joan of Heart
You know, very like you know, low end sounding and breakup and then it can also obviously sound clean and have a dynamic range that is more clear and pronounced sounding. So I thought that was kind of good that you yeah, you have the Amp sound but they’re just giving you a little bit more control over what you want to be pronounced in that.

49:07.94
crimesofparis
Yeah, and I was watching Ryan from demos in the dark his video and he talks about like depending on the setting. He’s like it can sound like a pedal or and then you change some settings it sounds more amp-like and that like that’s impressive because sometimes.

49:14.56
Joan of Heart
Um I need to catch that I Love his.

49:24.11
Joan of Heart
Yeah, like.

49:27.90
crimesofparis
You get these like amp some petals and they just sound like petals. They just respond like petals. Um, so it sounds like cattle and bread did a good job with these now. Um.

49:31.60
Joan of Heart
Yeah, this sounds like a recreation. Yeah recreation rather than a believable and that’s one of the things I think when people talk about ah the ua pedals in which oh you know it’s obviously it sounds like a real amp and it breathes and things like that. To have something that does that in such a smaller form factor and also at a entry point that is good for someone. This is the first time they’re like oh that’s really cool I can’t obviously get that amp. But in this pedal form like.

49:49.72
crimesofparis
Reads.

49:57.57
crimesofparis
Ah.

50:00.39
crimesofparis
Me.

50:02.32
Joan of Heart
Hey this is a way. Maybe I can have the sounds like on my board and I can kick all that for certain songs or at certain times just because you know I feel like it.

50:10.65
crimesofparis
Yeah, for sure. Um I don’t have a lot more to say about them because I think I haven’t gotten to play one yet I might reach out to Joey over there and see see if I get 1 of demo. But I’m again a little injured and a little behind so i.

50:21.10
Joan of Heart
Yeah, this is no of course. Yeah, so it’s this as far as this goes I was more focusing on the fact that the new design I like of them and also it’s something new from Cattle and bread I mean I do yeah.

50:27.22
crimesofparis
Yeah.

50:33.54
crimesofparis
He’s nice. They are they are they release a lot and it’s been a I’ve liked I usually like their graphics I know that like people didn’t love like.

50:40.97
Joan of Heart
And like the graphics sometimes so that’s why I was like I like.

50:49.22
crimesofparis
Cloak and tribute and I don’t know why the phaser name is escaping me I liked those designs like it’s just it’s so much about personal taste in terms of of designs I think that’s why so many Manufacturers are doing more limited additions that look a little bit different.

50:51.42
Joan of Heart
Ah.

50:58.00
Joan of Heart
Yeah, Oh yeah, of course. Run see. Yeah.

51:08.47
crimesofparis
Because even cow and bread. They have their um mountain edition which includes your dirty little secret so they have like really ah tri think these are really attractive. Um, the mountain edition say the echo wreck as well. Ah, a cloak.

51:13.86
Joan of Heart
Great petal.

51:24.49
crimesofparis
And avalcoder and a few others the raw.

51:26.63
Joan of Heart
Yeah, they’ve they’ve done different iterations of their pedals as well like this dirty little secret. There’s a red version of this which is I guess the tonality of it is a little bit different more like 70 s kind of like Marshall like rock. Um.

51:35.90
crimesofparis
Me.

51:40.38
Joan of Heart
When I was looking at getting one out of the 2 of them I chose obviously the original and not the red one. But yeah, sometimes they’ll release little limited like flavors of the same petal just for people to have something that is.

51:47.81
crimesofparis
Now.

51:53.34
Joan of Heart
Obviously like the original but hey maybe they want something with a different kind of range. Yeah yeah, the colors.

51:59.62
crimesofparis
Yeah I like I that’s think Earthquakeker does a lot too with just like different colors. Um, it’s like I remember when they released the special cranker A lot of people didn’t like that yellowy orange and I’m like I can’t like it stood out. It was nice I ended up getting a purple one.

52:11.24
Joan of Heart
Um, yeah course you see that I have.

52:15.56
crimesofparis
And then I gave the one I got from the demo to this singer from Jerf but I yeah I I like it when brands have those options I don’t think it’s like ah possible for everybody to have limited addition of everything spruce effects does a lot of different colors for their um core lineup of effects like the gale.

52:26.14
Joan of Heart
No can see if I have it.

52:35.78
crimesofparis
Which is a great pedal.

52:35.85
Joan of Heart
Yeah, there’s there’s the woman I have which is the dispatch master I have one that is um, kind of like Bluish purple and mostly like a mustard yellow with like these knobs that look like the old acrylic phones like and the knobs and and I know.

52:39.12
crimesofparis
I have.

52:51.80
Joan of Heart
Don’t like like yellow petals but that just version of it which was special to I think the sound parcel that they made for them specifically that color and I was like for some reason I am really drawn to that one. So I’m really glad that they make these kind of like color ways like even like old bloods and noise endeavors. I Had the original wont whip for my demo. But once they released the bananas smoothie like I got infatuated and I get you know I traded. Ah my original sunlight. Um for another petal. Um, but I got the banana smoothie as the one to be my sunlight and this is the best color for me like I literally fell in love with that and as soon as I saw the color it was like oh yes, you will be Mine. You will be my I love her ah special lovely color ways. Yeah.

53:23.78
crimesofparis
Yeah.

53:33.78
crimesofparis
Yeah, they’re another one they they another company that does like I I get a little I get a little fomo every once in the one I’m like oh I like that one.

53:43.43
Joan of Heart
Well yeah, like like the the new color way or the color way that they had around Christmas for the ma I looked at that and I was like oh I actually want that I want that color instead of like the one I’m grateful for the one that I have but I saw that color and I was like oh.

53:58.32
crimesofparis
You like? ah yeah, it just happens like that sometimes yeah, well we we got a little time left for housekeeping. So firstly I want to say welcome Philip Lauer to the Patreon I just sent you a link.

54:00.89
Joan of Heart
I Love that color so much more now does it be like that.

54:16.20
Joan of Heart
Welcome.

54:16.94
crimesofparis
To the Discord server everybody out there. We have a Patreon at patreon.com/getoffset and if you donate at the $5 level or above you get access to our exclusive discord server. Lots of fun conversations that it’s very active. It’s not like overwhelmingly active but it’s like.

54:30.17
Joan of Heart
Yeah, no enough then check it every day and see what? yeah no of course and I like interacting with people directly in kind of like a forum aspect. So I’ll.

54:35.20
crimesofparis
I Check it. It’s a good amount of active I think it’s like I can handle this amount of active.

54:48.38
Joan of Heart
Chi man I’ll post like I’ve been listening to more music now. So in the music talk area I’ve been posting like albums I’m listening to because that’s what I’m doing this year and other people have started to post there like what they’re listening to and we talk about gear. Um life to general like health cars like yeah, we have. We have definitely a plethora of channels and um, it’s really been great to kind of disnect with everyone and talk and share about life and music I always love that half.

55:13.47
crimesofparis
Yeah.

55:19.28
crimesofparis
Yeah, let me give a quick shout out to some of our new newer patreon supporters Philip Lauer and Jay that’s Nick right? Nick um, Michael Michael Dmitriv

55:21.43
Joan of Heart
Yeah Nick quite.

55:32.80
crimesofparis
I think that’s I’m sorry if I said that wrong I’ve only ever read that word I’ve never heard said aloud David Greer Nate not Nick sorry nate your real name is not on mom.

55:36.36
Joan of Heart
Big nate was another one. Yeah Nate yeah nate that was the one. Yep no, that was one of the things I said recently almost like everyone has different names and different platforms.

55:50.84
crimesofparis
Yeah coyote coyote Stardust Tyler Reese Robert Mcdowell Wesley Harden James Lowjan Antony Alex demonic machine.

55:51.48
Joan of Heart
So I’m like it’s hard for me to remember what your name is everywhere. So I’m sorry it’s hard sometimes yeah, no ease’s a mine too. Yeah Coote Stardos is awesome I like them.

56:09.10
crimesofparis
And there’s a $1 level I should just add them anyway to the discord um Jason this is this prank is officially sponsored by Jason Welsh jason welsh I love Jason’s ideas of pranks. It’s like giving you $10 I’m like this is my favorite prank.

56:26.66
Joan of Heart
Ah, Jason’s great thank you Jason yes, still die. But.

56:27.64
crimesofparis
To you wish there’s this is the time to super chat if if ah if you want if you’re watching the premiere or this old donate button below. Um I prefer the Patreon like that’s my favorite way to support the channel but I’ll accept all support how um holly read.

56:37.90
Joan of Heart
Yeah, all forms of of word. Yeah. Hey holy tip. Yeah Jason Jordan Nate everyone Michael I’m happy to see everyone and have it run.

56:45.46
crimesofparis
Jeff Jason Jordan Granapp Joe Russell heilling Matt Williams Stephen Gridley J Ryan Conklin andrea k Damian Martinez Paul Heinberg Steve Row Tom Kelly you

57:01.69
Joan of Heart
Damien my brother from another mother in Florida you be some wiser. Yeah, your ah Tom his well yes buzz monger. Yeah.

57:04.44
crimesofparis
Jason Wiser Jim Burns Za Zach Hale Noah and our very first Patreon ever Jason Fuzz Monger I said Tom yeah I did miss Tom did i.

57:18.58
Joan of Heart
Jimmy too Jim Burns and think who else? Yeah I think we think we got quite a few if if we forget it’s going off the top of our head or least my top of my head. Yes, but yeah I mean I would definitely say through like 2020

57:20.38
crimesofparis
yeah yeah I got Jim to yeah, we got a good damian why can’t I see all the huh.

57:37.77
Joan of Heart
That discord I mean I think we carried each other through all of that and like the subsequent years like I am really grateful for all the friendships that I’ve gone at least ah through that Discord because they really are some great folks.

57:41.69
crimesofparis
A.

57:49.88
crimesofparis
For sure. Yeah, so what else I got.

57:58.72
Joan of Heart
Um, did you say the um website merch things like that.

58:02.57
crimesofparis
Oh yeah, we have Merchchi At Lset Podcast Dot Com Slash Shop whoever ordered a shirt recently I hope you love it I saw that go in I saw that go in. Ah yeah, what else I got nothing lot and I’m very.

58:08.10
Joan of Heart
Thank you? Awesome hey.

58:18.20
Joan of Heart
Um, it’s a long week. It’s been a long week. So yeah, yeah, yes, please please a better week that would be lovely give me normal.

58:19.89
crimesofparis
I would like to go eat lunch. It’s been a long week this week was weird. Let’s hope that next week’s less weird. Give me normal give me normal shit give me give me healing give me healing.

58:35.34
Joan of Heart
Give me normal. Let’s sit exactly give healing walking into the next week slowly you know no one gets hurt. No one. No one. No one comes for no one. Everybody’s like shaking hands and like you know peace peace. No yeah.

58:48.67
crimesofparis
Ah, ah, peace on Earth Goodwill toward me specifically. Ah all right? Well ah to everybody out there. Thanks for watching Slash listening.

58:53.14
Joan of Heart
The s.

58:59.38
Joan of Heart
Ah.

59:02.72
Joan of Heart
Thanks for understanding I’m Joan of hart bye bye.

59:06.30
crimesofparis
Until next time my name is Emily goodbye.