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[00:00:00] Andrew: okay. Welcome to the good offset podcast. My name is Andrew. My name is Emily and I don’t know why I’m whispering. I think it’s just, cause I just took a sip of tea and it was like, ah, do I have to burp? If I, my fear is if I had talked too loud, I would have just burped.
[00:00:29] Emily: It’s always, it’s always weird when I’m filming a demo.
[00:00:33] And then like, I have to like repress a bird, like in the middle of a sentence. And I was like this, I feel like it’s obvious every time I do it and I watch back and I’m like, it was a little obvious only I’m not going to refill it though. Or like edit it. I just. Whatever it is what it is at this point. If you hire me, you see them the demos,
[00:01:00] Andrew: right?
[00:01:02] I, uh, the, I get the same thing the day job when I give seminars. Uh, so I’ll get in the middle of a sentence. I’ll go.
[00:01:12] Emily: You just pause for a second and you just like swallow the burp.
[00:01:15] Andrew: I just pause and make it look like I’m being thoughtful with my next words,
[00:01:19] Emily: but really you’re burping.
[00:01:21] Andrew: Yep. Yeah, and then make it to the end of my next sentence or the end of the sentence, find a way to read. Or even if I wasn’t planning to redirect, like someone’s eyes to something for them to take a look at while I just take a quick sip of water and then bring it back.
[00:01:35] Redirection.
[00:01:38] Emily: Look over here. Is that your card?
[00:01:45] Andrew: Yeah, gotta love it. Gotta love it. Intimidating talking in front of other people, something I haven’t talked about tuition of the podcast, but I, uh, Not always been super great about talking in front of other people. I think part of this dynamic is nice in a weird sort of sense, because it’s like, we’re just hanging out.
[00:02:06] Yeah. I feel like this would be super different if you’re in front of like a crowd
[00:02:10] Emily: we tried to do before, but I don’t know. That’s never going to happen now.
[00:02:14] Andrew: Right. I’m not really in a rush to do
[00:02:16] Emily: live podcasting. Yeah. I know we were going to do it and then COVID happened like we were going to do. The live, the live get offset.
[00:02:26] And then, uh, with like music. Yep.
[00:02:29] Andrew: Yeah.
[00:02:31] Emily: I was going to be cool. I was going to be really cool
[00:02:35] Andrew: then. Yeah. Cause we were planning that like January 20, 20, it’s like right when I got back from Nam.
[00:02:41] Emily: Yeah. Actually, yeah, something like that. That was like two years ago we had a date at the tractor and then it just kind of couldn’t we couldn’t get it to come together.
[00:02:54] And then we had another hold and then COVID I think.
[00:03:00] Andrew: Yep. Yeah, that would, uh, that would have been about two years ago. Now that feels unreal.
[00:03:06] Emily: Dammit. Oh, man. Life is on usual. It is. There’s just so many things I don’t want to talk about.
[00:03:23] Dude. Yeah. Yeah. Just so many, so much shit. There’s so many things of inner my lexicon and like my thought process that I just wish hadn’t I fallen off some Christmas card list apparently this year and oh yeah. It makes me sad, but. Whatever I there’s. I also like, I don’t send Christmas cards, so yeah. Do you send Chris?
[00:03:55] I mean, you you’ve got a kid, so I think that’s like more of like people with kids thing. I just, I don’t,
[00:04:02] Andrew: as far as other people are concerned, we do send Christmas cards, usually Christmas sander, typically new year’s cards. By the time we get to it, as far as I’m concerned. Uh, I don’t really, Melissa does all of that.
[00:04:15] She’s she’s great.
[00:04:17] Emily: Yeah. I think I did a couple of times, like after we got married, like the first couple of years, but you know, like my, my brother has always been really good about like taking fun pictures and doing fun things. And I’m like, I think if you’re like really creative and stuff, like. This year he did, he dressed up, his daughter is like a cousin Eddie from, uh, Christmas vacation.
[00:04:43] And, uh, last year he did her as home alone. And, uh, the, uh, so, um, like I think like if he can be funny and creative and do it, and that’s awesome, but like Rick and I.
[00:05:01] Andrew: So here’s the thing with Christmas cards for me, I’m like, I think it’s really only
[00:05:06] Emily: we’re talking about this, like after Christmas, right? It
[00:05:09] Andrew: seems worth it.
[00:05:10] If you’ve got a kid in here, here’s why I say that if there’s a kid on the Christmas card, what you say is, oh my goodness, they’re getting so old. And then if there’s an adult with this card, they also say, oh my goodness, they’re getting so old. And if I didn’t have a kid, I wouldn’t want to subject myself to that.
[00:05:28] Emily: They’re getting so big or they’re getting so big
[00:05:35] Andrew: Covance would wrap guys, let, let’s give it a rest.
[00:05:39] Emily: Uh, yeah, so I mean, every time I get a Christmas card, my dad would always, he always wait until the last minute send us Christmas cards because he knew that there were people in his life that, um, they would only send Christmas cards out to people who.
[00:05:56] Send him send him cards. So
[00:06:00] Andrew: yeah,
[00:06:03] Emily: I actually sent him cards because he was on their list and not because of the tit for tat quid pro.
[00:06:12] Yeah. None of my dad is funny like that.
[00:06:23] Andrew: There was no quick.
[00:06:28] Emily: I
[00:06:28] Andrew: hope so too. We’re recording this before Christmas so we can enjoy the whole weekend with family and
[00:06:35] Emily: without really thinking about it. Yeah. Full disclosure. Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully, hopefully with family. Um, yeah. So obviously the what’s news going to, we’re just going to skip that this week. I can say what’s upcoming as I’m supposed to have LASIK on the third.
[00:06:53] There we go. We’re not no glasses, Emily. Oh my God. This is what I’m going to look like. Is it, does, is it going to be like a weird, is it gonna be weird?
[00:07:06] Andrew: It’s going to
[00:07:08] Emily: take some getting used to, I used to wear contacts all the time, but then like when I got tired of paying for them, uh, to, they just bothered, they bothered my eyes so badly.
[00:07:20] Andrew: Yeah. There’s no way I could ever do. Uh, I also don’t have to wear these. These are just the blue
[00:07:27] Emily: light blockers, blue light blockers. I’m going to pick up a pair of blue light blockers for when I work, but I’m like, I’m surprised you’re wearing them on, on the show. Cause like I get so tired of seeing, like editing my videos and seeing like the reflection of the lights, the blue light clock, cautious about
[00:07:44] Andrew: it.
[00:07:46] Emily: Well, that’s just how I feel about I’m like, I’m not saying that’s how you should feel about it, but like, I can see, like I have my elite, like my strip lights, I have my umbrella lights. So I get really, like, self-conscious seeing the, or not, self-conscious like, it’s tired of seeing like reflections and then I they’re the they’re fucking Coke bottles.
[00:08:07] So like, I like can see like, like I have negative eight in this eye and negative seven. Five in the sigh. So you can see them like rounding off. So then like if you get really close yeah. You can see just the refraction as I’m tired of it, man. I’m like, I’ve worn them since like kindergarten and man, I’m just tired of it.
[00:08:38] Well, there you go. I would like to open my eyes in the morning and see. I got a show and they got knocked off my face, my glasses. And I was like, I’m done with this call LASIK appointments the next day. Like, uh, like, like booked, uh, the free consultation the next day. And
[00:09:04] Andrew: there you go. Inevitably develop the need for glasses.
[00:09:11] I will probably do that. There’s one of the things I most scared of in life though,
[00:09:19] is choosing between having to wear glasses and getting, uh, eye surgery.
[00:09:27] Emily: You know, if you need glasses at some point in your life, you’ll, it’s probably going to be like readers at this point. I mean, your vision does deteriorate a little bit over time. My lace, it comes with a lifetime guarantee. So if I need to touch up at some point, they’ll just do a free, uh, so that’s
[00:09:48] Andrew: kind of, it’s both have bifocals in their forties.
[00:09:52] Yeah, that’s pretty. And my dad didn’t start wearing glasses till he’s in his thirties
[00:09:59] or late twenties
[00:10:00] Emily: whose vision I got more.
[00:10:03] Andrew: Yeah. And I’m the only one of the adult grandchildren on my mom’s side that doesn’t have glasses. All of the aunts and uncles do am all grandparents. So I’m like the only nun child and both, both sides of the family that doesn’t work glasses.
[00:10:20] Emily: Right. Good out.
[00:10:21] Andrew: So, father, I got very lucky or, uh, I’m only a few years out
[00:10:26] Emily: or you’re in absolute denial.
[00:10:28] That’s a possibility, it’s
[00:10:31] Andrew: a frightening possibility. I should put something up. Like I should print out like, like 20.5 and just do a strip right above my ceiling. So as if you can’t read this, go to the doctor,
[00:10:45] Emily: I forget what those actual boards are called. But, um, apparently if you can read only the E the biggie as the doc at the optometrist office, uh, your vision is 2,220 over 200.
[00:10:59] I can’t read the. Without my glasses.
[00:11:08] That’s bad.
[00:11:11] Andrew: That ideal.
[00:11:12] Emily: Yeah. Yeah. So like, I am literally off the charts legally blind is that you can’t read, you’re not, you can’t get to 20, over 200 with prescription lenses. So that’s what legally blind is. Yeah, but I, thankfully I have can use corrective lenses. Right then Tom and the Patrion discord is like, why are you getting LASIK over the other one?
[00:11:40] I’m like, well, it’s cheaper and I heal faster and I’m a good candidate for it.
[00:11:45] Andrew: Great. I thought I was devastated when I could couldn’t read the line under the 2020 line anymore.
[00:11:56] Emily: Yeah, so sad for you not being 20 over 15, and that
[00:12:03] Andrew: must suck tilt college
[00:12:07] Emily: fighter pilot
[00:12:09] Andrew: sexual. What I wanted to be when I was a kid for a little bit,
[00:12:12] Emily: there sometimes they’ll go through like vision training to have 20 over 50. The same way that you can do ear training. Apparently you can do, I don’t know how it works, but you can do vision training.
[00:12:23] I think
[00:12:24] Andrew: my dad broke his me, or it was like little bit, well, when I started to get into, he was like, know, you might not be tall enough one day.
[00:12:31] Emily: There’s a height limit.
[00:12:33] Andrew: Yeah. There’s a height, shortness and tallness. Yeah. There’s like a small window for fighter pilots. Really? Forget what it is, but yeah, for USA.
[00:12:44] And I didn’t want to fly just like the tip might as a kid. I was like, I want it to be a fighter plate pilot and do Doug fights. Cause that’s all that sounds
[00:12:51] Emily: exciting. Well, honestly you probably, you’re probably in the perfect height range for I’m an original astronaut. Oop, there we go. Yeah. Cause um, you had to be under me as a kid.
[00:13:02] I think you had to be like under a certain height to be an original astronaut. And I was.
[00:13:08] Andrew: I remember asking for a dehydrated ice cream for my birthday one year as a kid, because I wanted to eat astronaut ice cream.
[00:13:17] Emily: I don’t
[00:13:18] Andrew: like that stuff. It was disgusting, but I convinced myself that it was cool.
[00:13:21] Therefore tasted good. Hm.
[00:13:24] Emily: Why did they put it in? Oh, uh, thought that the original original height requirements were smaller. I think. How tall, how tall was John Glenn? Five, 10. That’s a lot taller than I thought it was Neil Armstrong with five 11. Okay. I thought they were much shorter than that. I thought they were like 5 cents.
[00:13:57] Oh. Cause he was a fighter. He was a pilot. Yeah.
[00:14:04] Where are we talking about?
[00:14:06] Andrew: Talking about being short eyes. We got there from eyes are getting LASIK certainly all the way back. Congratulations. You’ll be able to see soon.
[00:14:15] Emily: Thank you. I’m paying for it with some of the demos I’ve done.
[00:14:23] I get paid for this. It’s fun. It’s exciting.
[00:14:33] Big yawn. When Papi stretches, do you say big stretch? Sometimes every, almost every time carry stretches. I’m like
[00:14:42] Andrew: that’s a big stretch is very often,
[00:14:45] Emily: well, it doesn’t matter how big carry stretches. I always say big stretch. She
[00:14:49] Andrew: also doesn’t per very often. She does it. She’s a quiet partner.
[00:14:54] Emily: Oh man. It depends
[00:14:56] Andrew: precarious.
[00:14:58] She jumped up on the bed and curled up between Melissa and I just started praying super loud, like, oh, this is so special. She never perused this loud. And all of a sudden you hear, she’s just looking at her button, the middle of our bed. Like, no stop, go do
[00:15:15] Emily: that somewhere else. He does that every, every night.
[00:15:19] Andrew: Yeah. But like three inches from your face.
[00:15:23] Emily: Yeah, just get like three feet away. Okay. I get it. I get it
[00:15:32] Andrew: to sound like in my ears.
[00:15:35] Emily: Yeah. That’s I mean, she didn’t, they, they animals, they don’t know. They don’t know. They’re just like where’s we’re friends. We can do this. Oh, yeah,
[00:15:51] Andrew: she get a cat sweater. Like you ever seen, like those like knitted, cat sweaters
[00:15:58] Emily: and shit, a four cat or a sweater with cats on it.
[00:16:01] Andrew: Sweater for cats and just like embroider into the back of it. I look as
[00:16:13] pretty good. Yes, that’s good. I burped you did it. You finally did it finally full circle. I don’t have a whole lot of what’s new yet, cause I will be unwrapping some of it on Christmas.
[00:16:35] Emily: Yeah. I don’t know I’m getting for Christmas. Um, I know what I hope I’m getting for Christmas. You know, I. Obviously, I got Rick, the amp for Christmas, the bass amp, which is, you know, it was too hard to keep a secret in our really small townhouse.
[00:16:52] So I was just like here, baby. Um, I also got him a pair of Bessie’s some shoes, very exciting. Uh they’re waterproof shoes. They’re sneakers in space out of there they’re Canadian sneakers are really nice. I had two pairs that are like really comfortable. Uh, I also got him some, um, Like a soccer style, um, sandals like this, the slip-ons cause he just like, just so we can just slip them on and go outside when he’s being nosy or whatever, checking the mail.
[00:17:24] He’s always, he’s always like trying to like put on his shoes really fast, like, oh, Find the delivery guy for the food who’s like inevitably lost. So this’ll be an easier one for him. Um, and I just like, I know I got him some other stuff, but dude, like I literally can’t remember cause I did all my shopping so long ago.
[00:17:45] I think I was like, I get him so much stuff throughout the year. I, I don’t really go all out for him for Christmas and I feel bad about it, but. He doesn’t get me a lot of stuff throughout the year. And I feel like he just goes all out at Christmas. So it feels unbalanced, but like literally I see shit and I’m like over it, go like that.
[00:18:07] And I buy it for him at that moment and I give it to him. So it feels a little unbalanced at the holidays, but I am like it through the year. Gifter and he is a. Birthday Christmas gifter I think he, I think he like saves the links. I sent him of like, oh, look at this cute thing at this one thing. And then just saves like a list.
[00:18:31] And then just Christmas, like buy, buy, buy, buy, buy. That’s like literally what I think he does. And then my mom messaged me and she’s like a few weeks ago. She’s like, can, can you send me some more gift ideas? Cause I asked Rick and he sent me one and it was pretty boring.
[00:18:52] More ideas.
[00:18:55] Andrew: Yeah. I didn’t have a whole lot to ask for, for Christmas this year. I was kind of just looking around. I’m like, I think I’m good.
[00:19:03] Emily: He was like, anytime I had the urge to like buy my something in the past, like six weeks. And I’m like, I will also add to a list if I still want it in six weeks and I don’t get Christmas.
[00:19:19] Cause my mom. Okay. So he used to go to my mom for Christmas. My niece got a bunch of presents for everybody in my mom’s here. You don’t get.
[00:19:32] I got all these prices. You all got mail.
[00:19:38] Andrew: That’s pretty good.
[00:19:39] Emily: So she’s like really been back into like, like I’m trying to get people, guests for Christmas, so, um, and college and birthdays and stuff. So it’s really nice. But, uh, Yeah, Rick has been, I gave her some ideas for Rick and stuff, so,
[00:19:59] Andrew: so I got Melissa. I don’t think she’s home right now. Uh, so I think I could say this out loud.
[00:20:06] I got her AirPod pros.
[00:20:13] Emily: Nice. I got everyone in my family. We
[00:20:16] Andrew: fits, I’m kind of hoping that’s what mostly got me, but. Uh, but I don’t know for sure. Uh, but she’s specifically wanted AirPod pros and okay, well, I’ll get that because I got regular pods of her problem is her left. One’s dead. So the only the right one works and I’d be like for a couple months, like honey, or like, it was like a few months ago at a time.
[00:20:41] Like you really shouldn’t be listening to only just one that is going to do. It’s not going to be good for a year.
[00:20:49] Emily: Allie. It’d be like the worst thing in the world, but I don’t
[00:20:52] Andrew: think I’ve be good and only got one in. Then you have to turn it the volume louder to make it sound like if you had both lower volume.
[00:20:58] Emily: I mean, if you’re doing that. Yeah. That’s not good over time.
[00:21:02] Andrew: So I was concerned about that. I was like, okay, well we’ll do that. But we were out yesterday shopping for another family member at the apple store in the, uh, UDaB district. And we’re the mill shop. He was like, oh, by the way, Would it be paused?
[00:21:15] Like, would it be possible to get a replacement for my left ear button? And like, and the
[00:21:22] Emily: gentlemen that were just for Christmas way too close to Christmas to be asking that question, Melissa. Yes,
[00:21:28] Andrew: but I couldn’t say that out loud. And, um, So, like, I kind of did the panic and like I made eye contact with the sales guys hit search, like, okay, well let me check for it.
[00:21:40] Like you need a genius bar appointment. Let me see if we’ve got any openings this late in the night and the day I just did that. Like super quick little shake. He’s like, oh, you know, I don’t know if we’ve got, yeah, I, I kinda have to go talk to somebody. I’m not sure if we could do that for you right now, but your best bet, honestly, this will save you a lot of time is just to go home and do it from there.
[00:22:00] Uh, talk to somebody online. Uh, then they can just have it shipped to you and just pull that. Okay, great. And then she said, okay, well, we can do that when I, I dunno, like we’ve spent a lot this month. Can we just, can we talk about this later, but I’m really hoping that I can push that off for the
[00:22:18] Emily: next few days until January.
[00:22:20] Let’s just talk about it in January. Um, if she does put. It would not arrive before Christmas probably. Right, right. But
[00:22:33] Andrew: it’s, I think it’s a non-refundable thing because then they’ve got a pair specifically, the, your other one. Yeah. I dunno. Uh, so we’ll see. But I got to that and I got her a book about Hamilton, the play.
[00:22:49] Cause she’s been very into that. Cool. So, yeah. Uh, keeping it a couple of larger items and keeping it simple. I do need to figure out stocking stuffers. It’s like the only thing that I haven’t done so far as stocking stuffers for her, I’ve done all my other shopping
[00:23:05] Emily: for my brother and my sister-in-law. I kind of, I panicked and then I, now I think I’ve maybe over done it.
[00:23:13] So I got them to the fence. Cause you know, I work with you, you and then I got, um, so I mean, I didn’t get a better deal. Anyone else gets so like Youi, I think they’re still doing a bundled pricing. Like this is not a paid advertising. So like you could get three for 150 bucks each. I was like, oh, that’s great.
[00:23:33] I’m doing that. Uh, so. Basically, everyone’s getting that. Um, everyone’s getting, and then I got my sister-in-law a, she’s been really into puzzles and she loves RuPaul drag race. So I found a RuPaul drag race puzzle. There you go. And I got her a tea towel. That’s a 20, 22 calendar with hummingbirds on it that she can hang in the kitchen.
[00:23:57] When he slows hummingbirds. I got my brother a gift card for Chuck’s hop shop, uh, which is a place that he likes a lot and that we go to a lot together. Um, and I got them both, some secrets. There you go. Now I’m like, oh, I just got everybody bunch of shit from companies I work with. So cool. It’s
[00:24:18] Andrew: not necessarily a bad thing.
[00:24:19] You worked with cool company.
[00:24:20] Emily: So one of the joys of it, I gave my momma Mustang micro, like, damn,
[00:24:29] Andrew: it’s not about how much you had to spend to get it. It’s about how meaningful it is. The people that, uh, that are receiving it.
[00:24:35] Emily: She plays the Mustang micro more than the Mustang GTX 100 that I also gave her.
[00:24:43] Well, there you go. Not because she doesn’t like the 100, but I think she just likes playing on the sofa with her headphones in,
[00:24:51] Andrew: well, at this point, Christmas is functionally over when the sister thing. So
[00:24:55] Emily: talk about the new year. We should
[00:24:57] Andrew: probably redirect. Are you sure
[00:25:02] Emily: you want to accomplish in the new year?
[00:25:07] Andrew: I want to accomplish, not jinxing anything. Oh,
[00:25:10] Emily: thanks, God. Finally, I mean, is what jinx shit anymore. Yeah.
[00:25:16] Andrew: I’m getting tired of it.
[00:25:17] Emily: So in case you missed it, he’s the reason for the pandemic. It’s his fucking fault. It’s all
[00:25:25] Andrew: your fault. It was like January or February of 2020. What? I said, I think I was quoted as white tree and they said the world needs a new.
[00:25:35] It’s your fault and yeah,
[00:25:40] Emily: you did
[00:25:40] Andrew: it. I said that out loud and I unfortunately got what I wished for unintentionally wasn’t even really wishing for it. Jeanie.
[00:25:50] Emily: I know, dude. I know, I know.
[00:25:51] Andrew: I know. So I would like not to jinx anything. And after two years of this pandemic nonsense,
[00:26:08] My plan
[00:26:10] Emily: pandemic was a hoax perpetrated by the get offset podcast to sell a guitar near.
[00:26:18] Andrew: Could you imagine? Uh, no. The plan is to make it a year of being selfish and I say that sarcastic. And all this, I think we were all far more burnt out than we realize. And so I’m planning on going to therapy for the first time.
[00:26:40] In like three years before the pandemic. I am planning on actually taking my doctor seriously when he said, I think you got
[00:26:48] Emily: ADHD. Oh yeah. Are you going to get tested for that? Apparently it’s not easy.
[00:26:54] Andrew: Uh, I don’t know what it looks like to move forward that you have, you take like a, a hundred question questionnaire or whatever, during my primary care checkup, a lot of questions.
[00:27:04] And he’s like, yeah, you PR you’ve got like all signs point towards yes, you should probably, this is probably impacting your life. So I’m going to try and take that seriously and
[00:27:17] Emily: yeah,
[00:27:21] Andrew: focus on myself a bit. Focus on, uh,
[00:27:25] Emily: Yeah,
[00:27:26] Andrew: yeah. Get back to some learning for career purposes of not just showing up to my day job for just like show up, do it go home, but more of a show up.
[00:27:34] And I also want to learn more and to improve it things and not just coast. So that kind of stuff, focusing on the self and seeing I can become a more, uh, healthy person. Yeah, that would be the goal because too many people need to go to therapy because somebody who needed it didn’t and I would like to not be that person.
[00:27:58] So that’s what I’ve got for the new year. That’s been kind of in queue for a little bit, and I’ve been in a holding pattern for the holiday season. And the plan is once January hits to start settling into moving towards that. But I have had a pretty good jumpstart on getting the physically healthy part down.
[00:28:14] So
[00:28:15] Emily: yeah, it seems that.
[00:28:18] Andrew: Continuing to feel a lot
[00:28:19] Emily: better. Yeah. I need to do more of that. You know, I just feel like every time I start getting back into the working out, I wreck my knee or I sprained my toe. I’m so mad about that. I sprain sprains or tell I stubbed it in the corner. I still do it on the corner.
[00:28:45] Yep. I broke it.
[00:28:49] Andrew: It’s of the worst feelings
[00:28:50] Emily: in the planet. It was so bruised. I couldn’t put any weight on it for like three days. Still can’t fit into every pair. I still can’t put every pair of shoes I have on comfortably and think it’s still going to be a couple of days before I can like, get back on the heavy bag.
[00:29:08] I can like walk on it without limping now. So that’s an improvement. But yeah, taking that more seriously, I think is a, is a goal for me, but just like overall health, I got to stop working so much. I got to stop working all the damn time. I got to start saying no to more things like seriously. Um, I got to stop.
[00:29:33] I need to raise my rates, even if that means, um, on everything on my freelance work, especially. ’cause it’s just not worth it. You know? So that’s, that’s kinda, the big thing is I, you know, I work all the time and when, when I, when I say all of the things I do out loud, all the projects, all of the hobbies, everything, when I say it out loud and people go like, when people, the way people react, when I kind of say everything that I do,
[00:30:08] the way they react is. Like alarm alarming.
[00:30:17] Andrew: I mean, functionally you do double the amount of things that I do and I’m underwater most of the time, so yeah,
[00:30:26] Emily: for what it’s worth. Yeah. I mean, I am just, uh, some days I feel really energized and I love doing, because the thing is I, like, I love doing everything that I do, right.
[00:30:37] The most part. And, uh, but the, the thing is, I just can’t do all of it because it is destroying me. Like it’s really too much, too much stuff. It’s so stuff to do all the time. And, um, you know, I don’t like saying no to opportunities. But, you know, not every opportunity is worth, um, worth it. So I think I’m just going to have to really take it on the chin that, you know, some things are just not really meant to be.
[00:31:10] So
[00:31:11] Andrew: I feel similarly with a handful of things, just trying to figure out kind of like, I want to be able to do everything and. It’s coming to the realization that it’s not about whether I want to do something. And it’s more about the realization of it is physically impossible to do everything that I quote unquote want to do in this lifetime.
[00:31:32] There just is not time.
[00:31:34] Emily: No, no. And I want, and there’s joy in my life
[00:31:38] Andrew: and I can’t cut out all the things that I don’t want to do. Cause like I can’t afford to pay someone to do the line and to also clean my house and dishes for me. So some of those things are just, that’s going to be part of life. Yeah, I don’t have that kind of money yet.
[00:31:51] Maybe I will. We’ll see.
[00:31:54] Emily: Yeah. I mean, the thing is like, that’s not the problem. Like that’s kind of the problem and it’s also not the problem. Like, honestly, for some of the things I don’t want to do, I could outsource that stuff. Like I could hire somebody to come and clean the house and, um, I could, you know, uh, not, I’m not like I could afford to have somebody come and cook for me all the time or get taken all the time.
[00:32:23] But like, I think that we can be relatively happy, like eating Turkey sandwiches a lot more and not having, not making fancy meals and stuff like that. And, uh, like we, we like eating simple foods, like not like, but the thing is like, I can’t, I don’t have time to both work out and cook. I barely had time. I don’t want to have to work out, uh, with my current schedule of like demos and day job.
[00:32:53] And so a lot of the things I’ve in band stuff, bands like the band I played bass with. I’m sure. You’ve told them, like, I have very limited, like if you want to practice every week with the other members of the band, that’s fine. But know that, like, I will have two rehearsals leading up to a gig. Like I could see it’s in west Seattle.
[00:33:17] I don’t want to jam. I don’t like, I, I just want to be a hired gun on this project. Right. Um, And I have another band. That’s my full-time, it’s my best, my band. And this is not, if that’s not okay, then you just need to find out the basis. Um, and I think that’s, I think that’s okay with them. And. Uh, if not, then I would be, I would understand if they found someone else, um, because that’s just like the amount I can give and just being more open about like, what I can give is going to be really important for me in 2022.
[00:34:02] So I just think as far as like, Like people re I have more and more people reaching out to me about like freelance assignments. I’m just going to be turning a lot of them down. Like a lot of them down. Like I’m not going to. Right. For less than X cents per word. And I can’t even rate for a lot of these publications because of my day job that’s, you know, paying my bills.
[00:34:31] So, you know, it’s just going to be a lot more nos in 2022. And it’s like, I think it’s like, so almost the antithesis of what most people do for their resolutions. I feel like a lot of people, like, I want to say yes to everything and in the new year, I’m like, I want to say no to shit. Saying yes to things like it’s a great starting point, but you like saying no is also very important.
[00:34:55] My lighting is so weird just
[00:34:57] Andrew: like this. So it’s funny because a couple of years ago, because we’ve been doing this for
[00:35:04] Emily: three years, four years,
[00:35:08] Andrew: how many years have we been doing this for? It was one of our first new year’s episodes. It’s like the first or second one we did. And. I think the new year’s resolution we both landed on was to create more and consume less.
[00:35:26] And our member of the time, like, yeah, that’s perfect. Like if I just stopped consuming, how much more time am I going to have for creating? And after trying to pull that off for a couple of years and kind of take advantage of trying to be a workhorse, given that I’m in my twenties and I can get away with that with the.
[00:35:44] Taking the heat too much. And yeah, I don’t know if that’s sustainable. Let me rephrase that. It’s not sustainable. And it’s about, I don’t know what that balance looks like, but
[00:35:55] Emily: I mean, I might,
[00:35:57] Andrew: I might buy a TV this year. I have not had a TV in about a year and it’s been an interesting year. Honestly, I think I just need to buy a TV and just sometimes it’s just nice to be like, well, so let’s watch a movie.
[00:36:11] Emily: Yeah. It’s just really nice. I like having a TV. I like. Zoning out for a few hours at night with Rick and watched trash. Like it, it feels good to just shut off your brain and let’s hit this a little bit. Serotonin hit ya. Um,
[00:36:29] Andrew: TV last night on my laptop, just curled up in bed. And like, that was nice. A laptops, like this is a big though,
[00:36:35] Emily: you know?
[00:36:36] Yeah. I think that if you just consume, consume, consume, and. Never create as a problem by looking at like a lot of what I do create. I mean, it’s not always necessarily my art. I would like to make time to actually create like my art more. Um, cause I mean, I don’t see demos for some people like Angela Koski, I think often.
[00:37:03] Emily Hopkins and some other full, like the demos are very much more Hartford for them. And like what they create out of their demos is art. Um, for me, I’m just trying, I’m trying to demonstrate a pedal. I’m talking through it. You can see the close that and get that off of screen. Um, for me, all my hat hit the microphone.
[00:37:25] It’s more just about showcasing the, just, just the product it’s and like, I’m just playing riffs over it and talking about the parameters and I’m not like creating music with the pedal and that’s just like, there are people who do that and they do it really well. And I just want it to be more educational, I suppose.
[00:37:45] Um, so like, I want to create more. My art and I just don’t have the mental head space in room for that. I am so annoyed that the sun is out. Right. I can not just this little bar of light hitting me. I’m glad I’m not filming any demos
[00:38:07] Andrew: today. That’s just, that’s free vitamin D right there. That makes me so bad that I almost feel like I needed to double my virus.
[00:38:15] Am I going to do damage to myself? If I double my vitamin D pass the one capsule, I’m
[00:38:20] Emily: not a doctor ask a doctor. Damn dude.
[00:38:28] Andrew: Yeah, no, I resonate with a lot of that. Uh, you have one of the things that I’ve done better than last year is outsourcing Fox Kate row stuff, where I can find. But I’m starting to hit the point. Like I either need to figure out how to do more of that more efficiently, or I need to, uh, not. So yeah, not saying that I’m quitting or anything.
[00:38:54] It’s just trying to wrap my head around recognizing parameters I have to work with instead of just powering through blindly. Totally, totally different approaches. Power through blindly. It’s just going to lead to burnout, figuring out what parameters are.
[00:39:08] Emily: I’ve powered through so much stuff like this year and the past two years, like that’s all I’ve done is power through stuff.
[00:39:17] And I like, if I power through it, I’ll get a break, but there’s just, you know, there’s more and more and more. And you know, if you say
[00:39:25] Andrew: no,
[00:39:27] Emily: and then when, when stuff wasn’t happening in the summer, I just panicked. I was like, why, why, why are. And because of like part shortages and no one was releasing things really.
[00:39:36] I just panicked. I’m like, I shouldn’t say month, I was in a really dark place, like before the. Big boost release Bonanza. Um, because I was like, why, isn’t, why aren’t why aren’t brands reaching out to me. And I was in a really dark place. And, um, now I feel like an asshole because I’m like, oh no, I have this, all these opportunities.
[00:40:01] And it’s too much. It’s not, it’s honestly, it’s not the demo stuff. The demo stuff is like, that’s what I want. To do more of, but that’s what I would love to do more of it’s like the other, some of the other things that I would like to not do so much of. Um, well, I would just like to have,
[00:40:25] I don’t know. Oh God. Yeah. It’s just a, I’m going to be saying no a lot more. And I am, I think my rates are going to be. Uh, untenable for a lot of the people who are reaching out to me. So,
[00:40:44] yeah, I don’t know. Is there a huge copywriter shortage right now? Like I’m getting so many inquiries for copywriters right now.
[00:40:55] Andrew: I don’t know much about that world. I don’t know
[00:40:57] Emily: either. It’s very odd, but I’m pretty sure that. I can’t even do a lot of these. I just got to pass on most of them. So I didn’t, I do pass on most of them, but yeah, that’s, that’s the big thing I just need to start saying no, 20, 22 is going to be my year of, um, God, what’s the word?
[00:41:25] Boundaries, your boundaries. Um, yes. Um, It’s I think a year of self selfishness is not always a bad thing. It’s a bad thing when it’s at the expense of others. Sure. Um, but I think that the it’s not always mutually exclusive selfish does not always mean at the expense of others. I mean, Rick and I, you know, sometimes we’re asked when we’re having kids.
[00:42:02] If we’re having kids and sometimes the answer we gave them, we were younger, especially, it was like, we’re just happy living selfishly. Yep.
[00:42:11] Andrew: No, nothing wrong
[00:42:12] Emily: with that. I can’t live selfish. Selfishly, when you advocate, you got, you gotta think about that. Taught tiny tot.
[00:42:22] Andrew: Yep. So that’s what I’ve got a slow kind of working out the details.
[00:42:30] I think the best, the best resolutions are umbrellas, where you figure out everything underneath them later.
[00:42:40] That’s that gives you a goal to work towards not just to, I’m going to go to the gym and like, oh, okay, cool. That’s going to fail because there’s not, there is not a driving force behind that really are kind of a, this is what my goal is. I’m working towards other than I’m going to be. There’s gotta be something more to it.
[00:42:59] So if for me, like my driving forces, I want to be a healthier individual then evaluating my life, looking like, okay, well that means I needed to learn how to take better care of myself because I have not been taking care of myself now, what does that look like? Kind of following that chain down. So yeah.
[00:43:19] And even going a level of, of, of that is like, why do I want to be a healthier person because of, uh, it’s not fair to me and it’s not fair to other. Yeah. And so using finding that as my intrinsic motivation of like, why? Um, very much. I know, I sound, I feel like I’m pulling from like Simon Sinek, one of my favorite modern life coaches, I don’t know, uh, start with why and work your way down from there.
[00:43:43] So that’s kind of where my head space is. App got the why figuring out the details and we’ll see where it goes.
[00:43:48] Emily: Yeah, totally.
[00:43:54] That’s basically what I got for the new year, as far as like guitar stuff. That’s kind of part of it, you know, because like the saying though, that’ll make more room for the energy that I had when I was writing more. And that’s just, that’s just such a big part of it, dude, when you don’t want, when you don’t, when you’re just cooked, when you’ve just been working from like, for like 12 hours, You don’t want to, you don’t want to do new stuff, man.
[00:44:27] Especially like, and then doing it on the weekends too. Like I saved, I saved that for like the people who are paying me and then I don’t save it for myself. So. Yeah, hopefully that’ll, that’ll lead to new things and setting some time aside some time, because I had this challenge to this 10 day challenge.
[00:44:49] I was dealing with some friends and it was like, just do like 10 to 15 minutes for 10 days straight. I didn’t, I couldn’t do it. I couldn’t do it for 10 days. 10 days. I can’t do it.
[00:45:05] Andrew: Oh, we’ve been doing this for three years also. I just got a call from Melissa, so I should probably get going
[00:45:11] Emily: well, um, to everyone out there. Thanks for watching. Thanks for understanding, please like comment, subscribe, subscribe on iTunes.
[00:45:20] Andrew: Indeed. Do it. Do
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