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#GuitarTokTalk Episode 3: Werewolves of Alabama and Angry Soundman and More

This week on #GuitarTokTalk, we check out gifted amps, stretching exercises, songs that sound alike, and wasted sound guys.

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[00:00:00] Emily: Welcome to get offset. And my name is Emily and man, your smile. It just, it really lights up a room. Has anyone ever told you that? Yeah, that smile right there. Well, welcome to guitar talk, talk, where I scroll through some guitar videos on Tik TOK and the talk about him. That’s that’s basically that is the thesis.

[00:00:24] That is the prompt. That is what I’m going to do, uh, for about the next 30 minutes or so. And I hope you’ve enjoyed it. So let’s just, uh, let’s just get into it. I’m going to be scrolling my for you page today. I was trying to just look at the hashtag ATAR talk, but that seems to just, uh, be like the best of it.

[00:00:45] Doesn’t really seem to be like a sort of by recent or most popular now. So that I’m just gonna do this. Yeah. So, uh, yeah. Hope he’ll be enjoy the rest of the

[00:00:54] TikTok Person: video.

[00:00:57] Emily: All right. Let’s see how well tailored my for you page

[00:01:02] TikTok Person: actually is for me. All right. So my neighbor just gave me this 40 year old aunt. Let’s see how it sounds.

[00:01:20] Emily: Oh my God. That hurt to watch like finding the output Jack. Oh my God, dude.

[00:01:31] TikTok Person: Um, I’m guessing one standby.

[00:01:50] 10 out of 10. Very nice. Good.

[00:02:07] Emily: I’m not going to play more than that because this actually sounds like just a straight up recording and I don’t want to get a take down notice like that doesn’t sound like she’s recording the vocals on, on a phone. That sounds really nice. Uh, so yeah, I don’t wanna get, I don’t want you to take down notice, so I’m going to just skip past it calling

[00:02:27] TikTok Person: all guitars.

[00:02:32] Emily: Heaviest, heaviest,

[00:02:38] TikTok Person: what’d you going to start?

[00:02:48] She just

[00:02:49] Emily: came in at the end there. That was pretty funny. Her says women. Aren’t funny. Women are hilarious. We’re hilarious. Sex, Bob, Dylan, the Beatles stuff. Hold up, let me see if

[00:03:06] TikTok Person: I can fix that. Um, Oh, cool. Well, look, we put you on our album cover. Oh, great. Nice. So what’s your opinion on the Beatles, Bob?

[00:03:23] Those kids are fucking weird, man. I dunno.

[00:03:29] Emily: I mean, would you react differently? I wouldn’t, I wouldn’t

[00:03:33] TikTok Person: react differently.

[00:03:42] Can I do that.

[00:03:44] Emily: So I got, I got to take up all four,

[00:03:49] TikTok Person: so I’ll go.

[00:03:55] I go

[00:03:56] Emily: over, had to keep that up there. It looks like.

[00:04:11] TikTok Person: This exercise is sexist,

[00:04:17] Emily: sexist. It’s sexist. ’cause I can’t do it with my lady fingers, not the cookie. I’m

[00:04:24] TikTok Person: not talking about this. Okay. Try this.

[00:04:50] So

[00:04:50] Emily: many do ads, but, uh, have y’all ever seen, like someone actually like do like ham boning? Like I’ve seen some like really cool guys do like some hand boating is when you like, use your body to like, be a percussive instrument, like slapping your guys and stuff. Uh, it’s really cool. And like the skinnier you are the more like resonant your body is it’s pretty well.

[00:05:13] TikTok Person: So in the band that I’m currently playing and we do two songs that sound remarkably similar. One of them is sweet home, Alabama. And the other is called werewolves of London. Now werewolves of London goes something like, this sounds like

[00:05:31] London.

[00:05:37] Now, whenever we play werewolves of London, I make sure that I throw in one of these

[00:05:46] London

[00:05:52] Emily: and I hope that we need to sweet home, Alabama Disney somewhere. I love it. When, when song, when you figure out that songs have the same chord progression, I’m a. Nico cases record, uh, when she was at ACL. Um, and she covers a song called in California. I forget who writes it. So I’m sorry about that. But, um, I was learning that song.

[00:06:12] Uh, what, when I was younger and it’s like in California. Yeah, no,

[00:06:24] TikTok Person: wait.

[00:06:26] Emily: Now, usually when I play.

[00:06:29] TikTok Person: Oh, my God,

[00:06:34] I just did it like this.

[00:06:45] the

[00:06:45] Emily: places

[00:06:46] TikTok Person: we used to go home.

[00:07:01] Emily: I’m living in Korea.

[00:07:08] Then I realize it’s it’s actually also, um,

[00:07:11] TikTok Person: could have been different, but it was different. Cause similar story,

[00:07:21] Emily: like a ring, like a diamond ring. True. The shoot of a word. She should be

[00:07:37] with the problem. One, as you can see, you can see that she doesn’t, but she just gave a whole this in trouble. And they’re just having this the same chords. It’s like the same walk down in

[00:07:52] TikTok Person: California.

[00:07:59] Emily: And I just love it. And then it’s the same, like

[00:08:05] she should be here now with the knife.

[00:08:11] TikTok Person: Nope. Sounds.

[00:08:16] Emily: That’s actually that’s, that’s funnier. The love funnier. These

[00:08:20] TikTok Person: are melody writing tips. Part two. If you’ve already written your lyrics, underline the words you want to highlight. Here’s some ways you can highlight the most important words in your line. Another exercise you can do is draw out three squiggly

[00:08:29] Emily: lines and then sing your lyrics

[00:08:31] TikTok Person: along with the lines as if these are high notes.

[00:08:33] And these are low notes, try out a bunch of different squiggly lines. So you find the one that matches your lyric. The best melody writing is all about practice.

[00:08:40] Emily: I’ll have part three up tomorrow. I’m really bad at writing melodies. As maybe I should follow that. Maybe I’ll follow her. I followed

[00:08:51] TikTok Person: chainsaw guitars.

[00:08:52] Here’s the trick. Step one, find audio of a chainsaw step to find God, you got to

[00:08:58] Emily: get your reference mix. First, got to start with a reference man.

[00:09:02] TikTok Person: That note on your guitar. Step three, match the EEQ do it automatically. Like I did step out a little bit of noise sounding good. Let’s try it out.

[00:09:30] Emily: that’s actually, that, that was really funny. I liked that. Thank you. Thank you.

[00:09:36] TikTok Person: You’ve heard of sleigh ride, but have you heard the baritone saxophone part for it? No. Well, now’s your chance.

[00:10:05] I just want to play the fun

[00:10:42] Emily: I’m sorry. I know that wasn’t guitars. I really should’ve just gone right past that, but oh my God, that was really, really fun. I played trombone in band, so like, I felt that I’m like, I just want to play the fun parts. I guess I should pick a different fucking instrument.

[00:10:59] TikTok Person: Oh, that was good though.

[00:11:27] Emily: Sometimes you think people do really like incredible things. And like, you’re like, I can also do incredible things. I’m going to create. As soon as you see people do amazing things and you’re like, I quit. Fuck it. I’ll sell it, sell it all.

[00:11:40] TikTok Person: Oh my God.

[00:11:46] how

[00:11:46] Emily: do you know? What’s where I just, oh God, it’s just, I’m sure people look at like a guitar fret board and they’re like , but like you’re like there’s lines and dots. Shit. I look at that and like, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s a bunch of buttons are the same color and a grid. And like, I know that you could be like, I, you know, it’s five down and four over or whatever, but like

[00:12:11] TikTok Person: the precision, oh, my.

[00:12:24] what

[00:12:35] Emily: part

[00:12:35] TikTok Person: of that? Check this out. Three little guitar orchestras. Here’s just a melody on it.

[00:12:57] as if an orchestra. These two hard pan left and right. Harmony pan left and right. Other harmony pan left and right. And then two random harmonies, random there’s the baseline.

[00:13:12] And these two are just, I recorded the same part and left and right. And then this one, I recorded a third time with just an October on it.

[00:13:24] Emily: It’s cool to see everything broken down like that. And here’s this like

[00:13:27] TikTok Person: rhythm guitar mantra thingy that I do. And I triple track that

[00:13:35] hard pan left and right. With the chucks in it. And then this one’s down the center with just the notes, but you can see it doesn’t have the little chunks in between.

[00:13:48] And here’s what it sounds like when it’s all together.

[00:14:06] Emily: It’s so important to record the guitar twice and hard pan it left and right. And set up to just use a double or it makes a really big difference. I know you’re listening to this in mano, so that’s Corey Wong. I really recommend going to his tech talk and, um, giving it a follow. So, uh, really that was

[00:14:23] TikTok Person: really nice.

[00:14:24] So Rick thinks this will take me two hours challenge accepted like two hours action program that.

[00:14:37] There’s

[00:14:37] Emily: a timer

[00:14:48] TikTok Person: seem that hard.

[00:14:54] Prove him

[00:14:55] Emily: wrong. Prove Rick wrong.

[00:14:57] TikTok Person: Prove Rick

[00:15:07] Emily: dude. That was literally less than 30 seconds. Literally less than 30 seconds. Wow.

[00:15:16] It probably would have taken him two

[00:15:18] TikTok Person: hours.

[00:15:39] listen

[00:15:40] Emily: to y’all. I didn’t like email the first time. Why is he coming back?

[00:16:20] TikTok Person: If I

[00:16:21] Emily: hadn’t watched that video, never in my life would I have guessed? That was a

[00:16:29] TikTok Person: good time. Wow, good lesson. You can make your playing more interesting. If you use surround times,

[00:16:43] double chromatic approach two notes below two above one below. You can do a diatonic and it sounds much more melodic. Take a minor 11

[00:16:57] Emily: He also had a reverb to make it some more interesting, but whatever

[00:17:05] okay. That just sounds like close encounters of the third kind to me.

[00:17:19] TikTok Person: like that.

[00:17:21] Emily: Yeah, that was not helpful. Thanks. So

[00:17:50] My brain, it will take my brain a while to comprehend what I just saw slash heard also the most wild part of that. Uh that’s w Y O T I S is the handle is if I know this is all, this all has to get panned down to mano for routing purposes, but that was really had a lot of panning happening that was.

[00:18:14] Someone commented the most fire and a main opening and yeah, that’s,

[00:18:19] TikTok Person: I’m gonna be like totally honest with you when I say stop acting like a nerd. Here’s the

[00:18:26] Emily: thing I’m thinking of. Maybe just,

[00:18:29] TikTok Person: maybe just, maybe there might not be a rule in the book of rock and roll the music, the music rules. That says you have to play every single cover of a famous song.

[00:18:46] Exactly. It was a clear note for note articulation for articulation corporate logo to a T to the track. You don’t need to, maybe I want to play it my way.

[00:19:04] Emily: Yeah.

[00:19:05] TikTok Person: Maybe I’m trying to get saucy. I was thinking a little creative. Maybe I’m not a societaly manufactured fucking sheep who needs to play everything.

[00:19:14] Perfect.

[00:19:16] Emily: I was really aggressive. I thought this is kind of funny and he’s right. You know, why would you play a cover and use a cable? Because I fucking want to, because I can, because maybe it’s easier for me. Maybe it makes more sense maybe, maybe because why not? Maybe why? Because. Maybe my end, your watch your mind, your own

[00:19:36] TikTok Person: business.

[00:19:36] Nobody does this anymore, but I always liked back in the day, the projects that flowed from song to song seamlessly, like the whole project was an experience and I’m finishing up.

[00:19:46] Emily: Nobody does that anymore. Um, I think it’s probably a lot less common because it’s a lot, one, it’s a lot of work and two, like the way streaming has.

[00:19:57] With everyone’s just shuffling everything all the goddamn time. It’s, it’s a lot less payoff because when people would just like put on a CD or an album or a tape, if you had like that flow, if, if you don’t know, he’s talking about. I would just really be like one song flowing into the other, either a sounds.

[00:20:13] Have you ever been Yad? Maybe just the songs literally like crisscross into each other in some cool way. Like my band Sunday crush right now, we, we really try to write songs. I can, we’ve been trying at least to write songs that can like flow into each other. We’ve had some success with that. Um, but yeah, it’s definitely less common.

[00:20:31] I mean, they’re, they’re obviously reasons for that. I think the big one is one it’s work and two it’s. Um, Finishing

[00:20:40] TikTok Person: up a project for my brother Gabriel Averitt right now. So let’s see if we can make it a little more interesting for the listener starting off in a blink session. I pulled in all the masters for the project.

[00:20:47] First I automated this plugin called endless smile to kind of kick in at the end of song one and give it a tale that spills over in song two, like this,

[00:20:56] we used to thunderstorm sound effects in song four. So I brought in the same thunderstorm effect at the very end of song three, like this.

[00:21:08] Hey, beehive meat stick. Nobody does this anymore. All to kind of kick in at the end of Psalm one and give it a tale that spills over in song two, like this,

[00:21:19] we used to thunderstorm sound effects and song four. So I brought in the same thunderstorm effect at the very end of song three, like this

[00:21:31] While song four is fading out. I copied the beginning of song five over a few times and automated a filter to do this.

[00:21:41] once you’ve done all your transitions, you’re going to bounce it down into a super file and chop your super file into your new masters. Follow me for more sauce.

[00:21:47] Emily: I was actually really cool, but he’s doing that. It will be we’ll honestly be weird for I’m streaming. People will be like, what’s this weird as hell at the end of the song, but it’ll be really cool for, um, CDs.

[00:22:00] So, uh, you can in fact do them separately. You can have separate C files that you use for printing your vinyl. And actually you really should. You really should have separate vinyl mastering and. Separate streaming, mastering and separate CD mastering. They’re all different formats. They deserve different types of optimizations in love.

[00:22:25] So, um, if you want to do that on your records, on your physical stuff, that people aren’t going to be sleeping around on as much. I think it’s a great idea. No, if it’s the best idea for streaming, but like for band camp or something. Great idea. The iconic

[00:22:42] TikTok Person: guitar risks throughout the decades.

[00:22:59] Emily: Dick Dale play upside.

[00:23:02] TikTok Person: I’m just joking.

[00:23:18] I’m pretty sure I learned this at some point.

[00:23:42] Emily: Okay. I don’t know how I can’t X those last two were, but sure, buddy.

[00:23:47] TikTok Person: All right.

[00:24:00] I don’t

[00:24:01] Emily: know why videos like this. Aren’t helpful for me. Like, I like to either just have the tab out there with the music, but like having them both up there at the same time, it’s like, It’s almost less help. It’s like, it’s distracting almost, I guess. Like I’d rather somebody like explaining the chord placements, the finger placements to me, or have the sheet music with the like, uh, being on a, I don’t know, I just, it’s almost too much.

[00:24:27] I’ve never learned a song from like this format though. I definitely see the appeal. I also don’t really learn from like the guitar pro like the, um, is it called guitar pro and the ultimate guitar? Um, With the mini on the screen. Like I have not really learned from those very well. Um, I don’t know what it is.

[00:24:49] I just have.

[00:24:51] TikTok Person: We were bucked to perform at whiskeys road house in Rockford, Illinois.

[00:25:21] We were black. Ooh. Ooh, let’s watch that again.

[00:25:40] um,

[00:25:42] Emily: man, I don’t know what the whole story is there, but like,

[00:25:49] Here in a sound guy, yell. This is my fucking stage. You know, I listen, I’ve, I’ve, I’ve dealt with some rude sound, people, surly sound guys, and I’ve never seen a sound guy like ELL at somebody like that ever, ever. And like, For being late to sound check for, you know, not being on stage when they’re supposed to be on stage for all kinds of like shenanigans.

[00:26:23] I’ve never seen that. Oh my God. I think I need a pallet cleanser. And then the baby we call. My wife’s, name’s a bassist.

[00:26:32] TikTok Person: I play smells like teen spirit, like them, less playful

[00:26:44] sleep.

[00:27:22] Emily: That was, that was great. Well, I hope you enjoyed that. Please. Like comment and subscribe for more and similar videos. I also do a guitar demos. We have a podcast that you can check out as well. Um, Are in the market for guitar gear at all. Please check out the affiliate links in the video description. They help us out tremendously and cost you zero extra dollars.

 

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