
This week on Get Offset, Andrew shares his new French Press strategy, Emily shows of a pedal the size of her head, and the two muse about sharing in the industry for a bit before talking about the one year anniversary of COVID and their optimism for the lockdowns ending.
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Episode Transcript
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Emily: I guess the intro might just be a thing of the past. There it is.
[00:00:05] Andrew: Lots of grab the guitar.
[00:00:15] Emily: Welcome to get offset. My name is
[00:00:17] Andrew: Emily pinned. My name is Andrew.
[00:00:20] Emily: And did you notice the intro? Didn’t repeat that time, but it also didn’t start like it was supposed to,
[00:00:27] Andrew: I did. I think we call that three steps forward. Two steps back.
[00:00:33] Emily: Yeah. Okay. Sure. That’s whatever, like I try. Okay. Can we at least, can we at least acknowledge that I tried.
[00:00:42] You
[00:00:42] Andrew: do try and you are not a try-hard because there’s a difference.
[00:00:49] I grant you that
[00:00:52] Emily: I try, but not, not hard. Try hard. Andrew is fiddling with his French press. I said he would explain it on the show.
[00:01:03] Andrew: So I’m explaining what I’m doing. A couple of things. I got my French press here. It’s ready to press. Uh, you’ll notice that there’s not all like the, the crema on top, all the oils and foam and stuff.
[00:01:16] I had a friend recommended a new method and, um,
[00:01:21] Emily: it involves that friend, Brett from everyday guitarist. Yep. All right. We should shout out Brett from everyday guitar. Thanks. It seems like the polite
[00:01:28] Andrew: thing to do my life with your French press method that you shared. Um, scraping all of that off to you. Let you pour it.
[00:01:36] You let it sit for five minutes. Give it a quick stir on top and scrape off all the extra grounds. And, uh, the oils and crap, and then let it settle each kind of let it settle everything to the bottom. And the video that you shared with you have a cat, a time-lapse like everything actually settling is really cool.
[00:01:51] Um, and then you put it on the press. Let’s just say, see that right there. Now this is where it gets weird as if it wasn’t weird before, and then we’re done pressing you. You don’t want to disturb everything at the bottom. You just stay. Poor really gently from there. And supposedly that’s how you get a silt free cup of French press.
[00:02:18] I don’t know.
[00:02:22] Anyways,
[00:02:22] Emily: welcome drink your coffee. Hot coffee out of glass whiskey glasses.
[00:02:29] Andrew: Oh, this is no whiskey. Last. This is a not neutral cappuccino glass. Okay. Let me, let me skew that back so everyone can see it. There we go.
[00:02:40] Emily: So everyone listening can see it. Meanwhile, I’m drinking my percolator coffee out of my Caroline corporation mug.
[00:02:49] Tomorrow’s great ideas.
[00:02:53] Andrew: Pretty excellent. Yeah.
[00:02:56] Emily: Yeah. He came with my somersault when I bought that.
[00:03:03] Welcome to get off set. We are a
[00:03:05] Andrew: coffee podcast. Yes, I did. Just slurp it to just really coat my entire tongue.
[00:03:10] Emily: Andrew’s really slurping his coffee today.
[00:03:13] Andrew: I am
[00:03:15] Emily: a little far from the mic.
[00:03:18] Andrew: Turn this thing up.
[00:03:20] Emily: He said, I’m going to turn
[00:03:21] Andrew: this thing up. I’m going to turn this thing up. How do I turn this thing on?
[00:03:24] There we go.
[00:03:25] Emily: Yeah, someone commented on one of my demos the other day that I didn’t have. The skills required to use or demo a tremolo bar of I brought a bar on a guitar.
[00:03:43] Yeah. That was one of the dumber comments I’ve ever got. I’ve gotten over the weekend. There were worse ones. You know what
[00:03:50] Andrew: I say to YouTube comments is I don’t care. I mean nothing.
[00:03:56] Emily: Well, that’s why I always just reply. Thanks for, thanks for watching. Because like, I think one of my favorite jokes from the series finale of 30 rock was something like, um, everyone who didn’t watch us.
[00:04:07] And there were a lot of you jokes on you because we got paid anyway. But in this case, thanks for watching. I don’t care if he likes it or not. Cause I got paid anyway.
[00:04:17] Andrew: I mean, that’s not to say that we don’t care about a lot of our viewers, but we care about our viewers that actually care.
[00:04:24] Emily: I, I, you know, yeah.
[00:04:25] I care about people who aren’t like dicks,
[00:04:29] Andrew: speaking of which there’s a, Dick’s opening up on the east side of Seattle,
[00:04:33] Emily: I thought it was just going to be a food truck.
[00:04:36] Andrew: Nope. They announced a restaurant opening over a crossroads mall, which is actually not too far off from my
[00:04:42] Emily: work. Yeah. I can walk to my end nor my nearest dicks.
[00:04:49] Andrew: Yeah. Well, I’m jealous.
[00:04:55] Emily: Uh, yeah. I mean, you should have been especially jealous, um, like in 2019 or early, early 2020, when they had like the, the day where they were doing, like quarter, like everything was like a quarter.
[00:05:09] Andrew: Yeah. We went a couple of times in like 1960 or something when they opened.
[00:05:13] Emily: Yeah. Yeah,
[00:05:16] Andrew: it was good.
[00:05:17] It was good until they sell out.
[00:05:20] Emily: Oh, you’re eating shit that I’m allergic to.
[00:05:22] Andrew: Yeah. Do you have a problem with that?
[00:05:24] Emily: No,
[00:05:27] Andrew: it’s good. It’s tasty. It’s good for you.
[00:05:31] Emily: I did a, yeah, no, it’s not good for him. It’s not good for me.
[00:05:35] Andrew: Their testicle shade and what could go wrong.
[00:05:40] Emily: That’s one way to describe it, mom, how do you say that? At the moment. Yeah. That is, um, other than your testicle shaped soybeans. Yeah.
[00:06:01] Oh, it’s the lamp from last week’s episode. It’s the lamp. Are they all the same
[00:06:06] Andrew: panel? They’re all the same panel.
[00:06:09] Emily: Oh, it was just like the poster from episode one, episode one.
[00:06:14] Andrew: That is exactly what it is. Just little glass panels with the poster.
[00:06:19] Emily: It would be cooler if they were different panels from like different scenes in the movie.
[00:06:23] Andrew: I don’t disagree. But at the same time, I think part of the appeal that I have with this is it’s so bad that it’s cool. I think the thing it’s got the like so ugly, it works fine. So, um,
[00:06:41] Emily: well, I’m trying to coast on that vibe my whole life. So
[00:06:47] Andrew: there’s nothing good that could come out of me responding to that.
[00:06:52] Emily: No, no, no. I liked, I, I liked to trap people
[00:06:56] Andrew: in treatment. Yeah. I think I’m handsome. That’s a legal term. Anyways. Yeah, no, I think it’s got the so bad. It works, but also it doesn’t work. And so I picked it up last year, knowing that it didn’t work and I opened it up and I looked at it like, oh, there’s a circuit.
[00:07:13] Bored in here. What do I do? I’ve never seen a circuit board in a lamp. And, um, so I did a little bit of Google fill and, um, slash sent pictures to people and I was like, anyone know what? This is? Sounds like it’s a touch lamp. I’m like, oh, so I’ve got the base on my bench behind me. Um, the, uh, so the circuit board had blown in the touch lamp for the activate, the on-off.
[00:07:39] I’m like, okay, well, I can probably figure out what Parker plays and then a little bit more Googling. It realized I can order the entire circuit board because it’s a standardized touch lamp circuit board for like 11 bucks to my door. And so like scrip. So I ordered it, um, swapped it out. It took like three minutes.
[00:07:57] It took longer for the solder gun to, to warm up than it did to actually swap it out. Um, Thought we were all good to go put in some new light bulbs, plugged it in. And it just went like immediately. Like I, I heard like the, like something like shatter inside of the base of the lamp where the circuit board is.
[00:08:16] I’m like, oh God. Oh no. So I opened it up and just like, as I was opening up the bottom, like you see all the white smoke and stuff and the circuit board I had just completely fried. Um,
[00:08:29] Emily: well, yeah, I hope you had a fire extinguisher nearby.
[00:08:33] Andrew: I do actually. Yeah, we’ve got, um, cause the kitchen’s right here. Um, we keep one in the kitchen.
[00:08:40] We did keep it like right next to the stove for a while. And then I realized if there’s a fire in the stove, the last thing I want to do is just like reach around the knife block to get to the fire extinguisher. So we then moved it to the other side of the counter by the fridge. You could set back a few feet, grabbed the fire extinguisher and put out the fire that we had the other day in the kitchen as well.
[00:09:00] Emily: Yeah, once we had a fire in the oven and Rick. Didn’t handle it. Great. And I was like, he’s like just, he didn’t even remember where the fire extinguisher was. And I was like, oh my God got the fire extinguisher. But it was like, I’m just going to turn off the oven. Just let that fire die. And that worked.
[00:09:18] Andrew: Yeah. We, um, like any part of that, we almost burned down our house the other day, actually. So we give up and virus, oven, fire.
[00:09:27] Emily: Yeah. Did you open the oven? Was that, was that what the problem?
[00:09:34] Andrew: No. Um, so we went to Costco. Yeah. On what last sentence? So after the podcast we recorded last week and we adjust, I just smoked like 14 or 14 pounds of pulled pork.
[00:09:50] Yeah. So we’re like, okay, we got leftovers, where do we, what do we do with it? So we went and got the, uh, taken big Mac and cheese. It’s like 10 bucks for the giant tray of Mac and cheese. I mean, um, so we get, get home and. Um, frankly, it does really add to poop. So I’m like, Hey honey, could you get the turn the oven on at 400 degrees?
[00:10:09] I’ll be back in a couple of minutes. So I come back in a couple of minutes, um, completely out of the kitchen, no awareness, whatever it came back out. And it just smelled, I read it in the house. I’m like, oh,
[00:10:18] Emily: what’s this? What was in the oven when she turned it on?
[00:10:23] Andrew: And I went so well. I walked to the kitchen and it’s there just like white smoke billowing out.
[00:10:27] And you you’ve been in my house. So I was staying in the dining room, looking through the kitchen has a galley kitchen that goes all the way through. You can normally see the guitars on the wall here. I couldn’t see it. It was just so much like I couldn’t see the guitars. I’m like, oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God.
[00:10:40] Emily: No. When she turned it on,
[00:10:44] Andrew: uh, I left a couple of things in the oven from resting the, the pork. Because I don’t have like a dedicated cooler for resting pork. And so I figured the next best thing is the oven is hyper insulated anyways. So that’s a great place to rest me. Um, and, uh, on a recommendation of a friend that see, rest me in a cooler, wrapped up in a towel, and I went to go pull out the meat the night before.
[00:11:10] Emily: Did you leave the towel
[00:11:12] Andrew: in the, I left to 100% cotton towels in the oven on a baking sheet.
[00:11:19] Emily: There’s some mutual fault there. I would lean the fault on you because you shouldn’t leave that in the oven and a little bit of fault on Melissa for not looking. But then again, why would you expect there to be towels
[00:11:33] Andrew: in the oven?
[00:11:35] Yeah, she’s like, I don’t know. Sometimes you leave the cast iron in there and that probably wouldn’t have been heard at 400 degrees, so I didn’t figure to get up. And I started smelling something just totally fell in. Her sense of smell is not terribly strong to be in with. Which is how she puts up with me really that once a week shower thing.
[00:11:53] Emily: Oh yeah. You’ll only show once a week.
[00:11:56] Andrew: I don’t really, but we’ll just continue to joke about it. Cause it’s funnier.
[00:12:03] Emily: Nasty
[00:12:04] Andrew: nasty man. So things that we learned while we were airing at the house, cause we went and just stood outside for an hour. Cause it smelled bad. Yeah. We opened up every window in the house, turned off the oven. Um, I grabbed a couple, I took the baking sheet with the towels on it and took it out to the side porch where the grill is and just put it on the grill grate.
[00:12:22] Right. Just to be a safe place in case that decided to come out because it was
[00:12:26] Emily: yeah. But it makes sure that before you light the grill next time. Yeah.
[00:12:30] Andrew: Yeah. Um, so it wasn’t a fire just smoldering, just like a lot of smoke, but no fire. And so I started Googling stuff. Cause one I’m like, okay, like cotton, if you burned cotton, it’s a hundred percent natural.
[00:12:44] It should be fine. And then I realized that that doesn’t mean it’s going to be okay to breathe. Yeah.
[00:12:51] Emily: Like most smoke is bad. All smoke is bad debris. Let’s be real sure.
[00:12:56] Andrew: And then there’s probably time in Seattle, but uh,
[00:13:03] Emily: oh, because of weed? Yeah.
[00:13:05] Andrew: Okay. So it turns out the smolder point for Kaiden is 401 degrees. The flashpoint for cotton is 410. So if we’d preheated to four 50, it would have ignited. And when after the smoke died down, like I went to go grab this house and see like what the deal was. And I unfolded them and sure enough, just pile of embers in the middle of the folded towel, I had to stamp it out on the concrete in front of the house.
[00:13:33] Emily: Um, So, you know, I’m pretty sure the oven fired you just turn off the oven. So the air stops moving.
[00:13:40] Andrew: Yeah. But there was also like a lot of smoke and I wanted all of that smoke out of my house immediately,
[00:13:44] Emily: but then when you open it, if it’s on fire, then it’s getting like a fresh shock of oxygen
[00:13:54] listeners. Tell us who’s raid. Tell us who had the smarter theory.
[00:14:00] Andrew: I mean, I don’t know. I think the entire time I was just pretending that this isn’t the brand new oven. My landlord put in like two months ago.
[00:14:08] Emily: Huh? If your landlord listens to this podcast, they’re going to be mad.
[00:14:13] Andrew: Well, they could be mad, but they could also hear that I was responsible.
[00:14:17] I took care of it. I’ve since deep cleaned the oven, run it through multiple steam, cleans to clean out the entire great system and everything. We’re all good to go now. And it didn’t leave. Do any serious damage. Okay. Take that back. It didn’t no damage. So the evidence health, cause there wasn’t even a fire was just smoke right now.
[00:14:32] Yeah. Yeah. Which I probably put more smoke with burnt cookies before.
[00:14:39] Emily: Is it my turn to talk about what’s new with me, I
[00:14:41] Andrew: suppose, talking about how I’m breaking electronics and burning down the house and just a full destructive week here.
[00:14:52] Emily: Well, I have this, I want to try to film today, the Sol Invictus by Hilditch designs.
[00:14:58] And this pedal is bigger than my head.
[00:15:02] Andrew: That is not an exaggeration. Usually someone’s like, oh, as big as my head, they’re like eight might be bigger than a baby’s head, but I mean, I’m
[00:15:11] Emily: still eating burritos bigger than this.
[00:15:14] Andrew: I mean, I have, but I’m not necessarily proud of it.
[00:15:18] Emily: It’s got nice soft switches.
[00:15:19] It’s a dual channel, preamp and overdrive that kind of gets that nice old sun doom sound. I really like having one channel lately. I’ve when I was playing at some, uh, this week. Um, I like having one channel. It kind of like the edge of breakup and then having one channel, like do me. It’s pretty fun. Yeah.
[00:15:44] So, uh, that’s my new, my big new gear thing.
[00:15:50] Andrew: Cause I want to know how big the PCB is. Okay. I
[00:15:54] Emily: have to know. Um, I got to pick out from my tuna tone, so it’s looking nice and. Uh, it was my fault. It was my fault that it had broken before. Um, but I just, I put a crack and I was trying to take off one of the knobs.
[00:16:09] Wasn’t applying pressure very well and snap. Um, but yeah, that was nice. Put fresh strings on the old tuna. Um, some of those coded strings that Ernie Baltz in us. So, uh, breaking those in
[00:16:25] Andrew: first impressions.
[00:16:27] Emily: Let me, I don’t usually play coded strings. So whoops sees
[00:16:39] it feels smooth.
[00:16:41] Andrew: Yeah.
[00:16:48] Emily: Yeah.
[00:16:53] Andrew: I think the big thing for code strings is a lot of people just assume that they’re going to feel like really different and wacky. Does it feel relatively normal or does it feel like this is clearly a different set of strings?
[00:17:05] Emily: Just feels nice.
[00:17:13] Yeah. I don’t know. I might try some of, uh, Some hybrid picking stuff today.
[00:17:20] Andrew: I don’t know. That’s fancy.
[00:17:24] Emily: Um, yeah, but I mean, I was thinking about like what I was going to do today. I’m definitely gonna play with a solid dicta. See if I can get, uh, a demo film done that. But, um, yesterday I went live on our Instagram, I mean, on our or YouTube.
[00:17:39] And I, uh, I sanded and
[00:17:41] Andrew: stained platforms.
[00:17:44] Emily: I sanded insane the, um, RD body from the concierge.
[00:17:50] Andrew: Yeah. I didn’t even see that you did that. I was out of the house most of the day yesterday.
[00:17:57] Emily: Uh, yeah, so that was fun. That was a nice to finally do that, but. Um, just self
[00:18:04] Andrew: go back and watch that video later.
[00:18:06] Emily: You don’t have to do that. You never do. So he’s literally writing on a post-it note, but I don’t know if he’s actually writing what he’s actually writing, but
[00:18:19] Andrew: Hey, I wrote.
[00:18:22] Emily: I can’t read the watch R D video excavator.
[00:18:25] Andrew: I’m going to put it right here next to my social security number and all my personal making information on. So they’ll have some post-it notes under my monitor.
[00:18:34] Emily: Yeah. So after, after this video, after we filmed this, I’m going to go look and see if I like need to go back and touch any spots up or cause I use leather dye instead of a wood stain, which I’ve had better luck with in general.
[00:18:48] Other
[00:18:48] Andrew: already died.
[00:18:58] Emily: Remember the other week when I accidentally uploaded the eight minute version of this podcast and it cut out pretty much right after I said, why did I agree to do this podcast with you? Yeah, that was funny. And then
[00:19:08] Andrew: the listeners who had the, who listened to it said, wait a minute, where’s the rest of the episode?
[00:19:12] I went back and listened again, had to listen to my seagull story twice. Oh,
[00:19:16] Emily: God, that was haunting. Um, so I need to go look at the body, make sure I like how it looks. Um, and then if I like how it look, I’m going to spray it with some Sherlock today, a couple of times over the course of the day and let that cure for a week.
[00:19:33] And then hopefully the next weekend, this coming weekend, I’ll be able to, um, start the green filler. So
[00:19:44] Andrew: are you doing like dog hair? Nice.
[00:19:47] Emily: Yeah. I need to make sure I have the grain feller still. Um, or that it’s still like, you know, hasn’t dried out or anything cause it’s old, but I’m going to put some India ink in there.
[00:19:58] I’m going to try to do a, um, a black fill instead of a white pill.
[00:20:02] Andrew: Okay. Yeah,
[00:20:05] Emily: I can. I think I’ll give it more of a cherry
[00:20:06] Andrew: look, dog hair. You’re going to want, like the way it looks don’t do men’s
[00:20:14] Emily: warehouse commercial men’s warehouse. I was a child in the nineties. I was
[00:20:21] Andrew: commercial.
[00:20:23] Emily: I know they had those ads on forever.
[00:20:26] Yeah, no it’s dude. Um, yeah, so that was kind of the thing I got my, my boxing bag in finally. So I’m going to try to hit the bag today. It’s been literally a year actually. Um, today is the one-year anniversary of my band’s last sta little mini tour. We flew to Texas on this day and then on leap day. So I’m just gonna count it as today.
[00:20:50] Uh, we played, um, in Austin at hotel Vegas and, uh, There was no soap in the bathrooms and people kept coming up and wanting to like, shake hands. I’d be like, I know your hands are dirty. My hands are dirty. So your hands are dirty.
[00:21:06] Andrew: Well then does it really matter if everyone’s hands are already? Yeah. Yes,
[00:21:09] Emily: yes, yes.
[00:21:12] And at that show, after the show, a guy came up to me and he’s like, oh man, that last band was really good. I was like, yeah. Yeah. I liked them. He was like, all the bears were great tonight. And like, my band had played, uh, I think third out of four. So I was like, oh cool. Which band did you like the most? And he looks at me and he’s like, I didn’t see any of the bands I just got here.
[00:21:37] I’m new to town. And I’m like, no, no, this ain’t happening. Yeah. He was just trying to pick me up. I think. And then he’s, he ended up insulting me kind of, I felt very insulted. Like it was ready to be a college. Once I was sitting in the lobby of my dorm reading, um, a book that was really, really into like, I was enjoying it actively and a guy comes over, he sits next to me.
[00:22:05] He’s like, oh, what’s that? What book is that? I’m like, oh, it’s love is a mixed tape by Rob Sheffield. And he’s like, oh, I love that book. And I just want, I was like, oh my God, it’s so devastating. Right. It’s such a good book. And then he looks at me and he’s like, I’ve never read that book. I’m like what? Get out of my sight
[00:22:25] or mint. Okay. That was my, that’s my question.
[00:22:29] Andrew: I mean, probably
[00:22:32] Emily: are you all right, because it’s just like the number of times that some I’ve been hit on. I, I don’t get hit on a lot in my life in general that I know of. But like the number of times I’ve been hit on by someone who was pretending to enjoy the art, I was enjoying only for them to immediately be like, I’ve never read that book or I didn’t actually see any of the bands.
[00:22:54] Like where did you think this conversation was going to go? Oh my dude.
[00:23:01] Andrew: Yeah. I mean, I feel like that could be trucked up to a couple of things. Like to be like the most generous thing I can chalk that up to is like dudes, like, all right. Like, she’s cute. I want to go like try pick line and you just walk over there and you just like, complete like, ah, yeah.
[00:23:21] I love that too. And just completely, like don’t really think it through panic and just like, you know, I’m so sorry. I shouldn’t have said that I should leave now.
[00:23:32] Emily: Oh, no. I had to tell him to leave both times
[00:23:36] Andrew: the most generous way to put that within the there’s the, of course that’s the, uh, someone just being a douche bag and just like, I’m a cocky douche bag.
[00:23:46] I could say whatever I want. Women just love me.
[00:23:49] Emily: Nah, nah, I don’t think either of these guys were cocky. I think they were just dumb. Like maybe adjust your technique. My guy. I
[00:23:58] Andrew: don’t like a place that a gesture technique. And I was like, I mean, I guess it was kind of funny, but I got to work on the, uh, the humor.
[00:24:09] Emily: Um, I wanna thank our sponsor.
[00:24:14] Yes. I wait for you to take a bite of your at a rude. Yes, very well. You shouldn’t be eating on camera. That’s nasty.
[00:24:27] Andrew: I’ll stop.
[00:24:34] Emily: Okay. He’s put, he’s desperately looking for a place to put his takeout box. Yeah.
[00:24:38] Andrew: If you can’t already tell by like the fringes of my desk, like I have a big desk and I have nowhere to put anything. Yeah.
[00:24:46] Emily: Oh, my God. Just thank our sponsor. Oh, sweet Jesus. That podcast is sponsored by Lamberton pickups based out of Yakima, Washington, wild by Curtis Lambert, fun Curtis live or tendon team.
[00:25:08] Andrew: Um, joking. Right.
[00:25:10] Emily: Yes. And, uh, as Andrew drinks, his fancy pants, too much effort for French press. I think coffee, uh, Curtis is a big coffee fanatic and likes to name his pickups after coffee and elements of coffee. For example, the triple shot is his take on the Stratocaster three single coils and the crema is his take on the PAF style.
[00:25:35] Humbuckers with extremely low compression. So that. Your tone is truly it’s
[00:25:41] Andrew: it’s the low output ones. Yeah. And then the grinders, the high output ones. Yes. The yes. The sear, the blondies of the Telecaster pickups. Sure. Yep.
[00:25:57] Emily: Yes. Big, thanks to Curtis for being a bro.
[00:26:03] Andrew: Tessa bro. And a side note, honestly, one of the things I’m looking forward to the most, uh, After getting vaccinated, does I need to drive out there and I need to have him make me a cup of coffee because he’s got like, he’s got like a full, I guess, wrestle machine in his shop.
[00:26:20] He’s like posted some really sick photos and video, um, of his, this wrestle machine. It just looks. And he claims, I think I saw him claim on one of the cough performs that we’re both in, cause yes, I’m also in coffee forums with him. The thing that’s real, um, he’s like, he’s like, this is the best coffee and like a hundred miles in any direction or something like that.
[00:26:41] And like, okay, you have my attention. So I’m excited.
[00:26:48] Emily: I’m glad he has your attention. You have lost mine. Aw, wait, I got it. Hold on. Stop. Hey,
[00:27:00] Andrew: you never used that for any of my jokes.
[00:27:04] Emily: Well, topics I’m I’m driving the car. I get to pick the music.
[00:27:11] Andrew: That’s not fair.
[00:27:14] Emily: Wow. Yes it is. Um, so Andrew, you came up with the topic idea for this weekend.
[00:27:22] Andrew: Uh, I did, I did indeed. A topic this week is a sharing is caring. Yeah.
[00:27:31] Emily: We want to talk about sharing.
[00:27:33] Andrew: Yes. Um, would you like some out of mommy by the way in the name of sharing?
[00:27:40] Emily: No.
[00:27:46] My epi pens upstairs,
[00:27:49] Andrew: B B a a tough crawl upstairs and get to it in time. Um,
[00:27:55] Emily: I know you just want this podcast for yourself.
[00:27:57] Andrew: Yes, that’s. That’s what I deep down in my soul. That’s what I really want is to anyways, um, an example of when sharing is not caring. And it was, I thought we could talk about sharing, talk about sharing in the industry.
[00:28:12] Talk about the different aspects of it. Um, yeah,
[00:28:15] Emily: I mean, there’s a lot of ways to share. You can share physical things. I love sharing my guitar pedals with my friends, especially if they’ve never played pedals before. Sometimes I even get them back after I share them. Sometimes I don’t. I think Jamie’s still wastes still has my, um, big Muff liquor.
[00:28:33] Andrew: No, th that’s one of my least favorite of the modern muffs.
[00:28:38] Emily: Well, yeah. That’s why I’m not really in a rush. Yeah.
[00:28:44] Andrew: It’s the shame is that one’s got like a great color color way too.
[00:28:48] Emily: I like, I liked it fine. It’s just, I’m you know, not a big Muff person.
[00:29:00] Andrew: Yeah. Anyways. So the thought crossed my mind, um, for the topic, just thinking through a couple of things, one realizing that, and you kind of touched on this earlier. We’re approaching the point in like the pandemic where our like one-year memories are going to also be of the pandemic. It’s like those social media memories, which have been like.
[00:29:20] A mainstay for like keeping me grounded this last year and be like, oh yeah, like last year I was at a concert at this time, or last year I was like on vacation with a friends going up to Bellingham to like fancy coffee shops and stuff like that. And, um, yeah, those are all gonna slowly start transitioning into like a one-year of, uh, working from home this week.
[00:29:42] And stuff like that. I was going through like my work notes,
[00:29:47] Emily: like this time last year, I was this time last year, I was thinking about how that time, the year before I was doing
[00:29:55] Andrew: things, um, oh yeah, no, I was going through, so I usually take notes on every meeting that I sit in. Um, out of habit cause other, yeah, just a habit.
[00:30:08] Good habit. It’s a habit I try to keep up with. And so I was going through all my notes. I’m just kind of checking in on some things and looking back for, for something that had happened more like a year ago. And I was going, and I found like my notes from, um, end of February, early March for my team’s weekly meetings.
[00:30:23] And just talking about like things that were like, and just reading through, it feels like a really weird time capsule of like, Ramping up to the pandemic and realizing there’s no amount of hand sanitizer that’s going to keep us safe. We really should go home. There’s like, and then like the notes stopped.
[00:30:39] Cause then we didn’t have meetings for like a month anyways. So it was like, it’s a really horrifying time capsule, my professional life. Um, all of that said sharing is something that. I think was a lot easier to do before the pandemic, like we were talking about sharing food. Um, so like I shared a whole bunch of the pulled pork that he made last week and it’s like great to share with people also, like I was like, here, I’m going to put this wear gloves, put it in a bag, um, seal it and then drop it off in someone’s doorstep.
[00:31:06] And say, here you go, let me text me what you think instead of like, let’s sit down, let’s break bread. Let’s um, and I think there’s just that’s. Like on a deep spiritual, like what it means to be human level. Um, just to share that, I think we’ve missed out on, I don’t know.
[00:31:24] Emily: Yeah. It’s very natural human thing to share with people that you care about.
[00:31:27] I mean, sharing meals is just culturally significant in every culture. Um, In a big deal. And in the, I mean, and this is, we’ve talked about this before, how, um, music is an industry that really, uh, relies heavily on the free flow of, of ideas. Um, So you’re almost like with, without even trying to do it, you are sharing whenever you releasing into the world, you’re sharing it with the world.
[00:32:00] And, uh, that’s kind of a big thing, but, um, yeah, I mean, from, from sharing a bunch of my guitar pedals with, with my singer, when she was getting into, into pedals, cause she had gotten a huge guitar pedal board and a trade, um, Two trading ideas and S schematics, not semantics. Um, it’s really, we we’ve talked about this before.
[00:32:25] I think, um, the episode we did with Matt hoops early on in the podcast, um, was a really big example of, um, just how much, uh, collaboration is involved in this instream what’s collaboration, but sharing of ideas back and forth in real
[00:32:43] Andrew: time. Totally collaboration is, is definitely sharing. Um, and I think.
[00:32:53] That’s definitely been neat to see some of them the last year. Um, and some of the ways that people have gotten creative with sharing, but there’s, there’s no denying that there’s more boundaries. Um, and so like, I I’m just the collaboration between and, um, chase bliss or Earthquaker devices and that’s by audio, like what, like the hurdles of like, this is what it would, would have taken to collaborate through.
[00:33:20] That whole project is virtually. Um,
[00:33:23] Emily: well, I mean, I don’t, I think it’s kind of, not out of the realm of possibility to assume that the death by audio and Earthquaker one always would have been a remote share because that was really just two, two circuits and in one pedal for the most part
[00:33:41] Andrew: that’s fair. I don’t know.
[00:33:48] Emily: Wow. We have a lot to say on this topic. Don’t we,
[00:33:51] Andrew: I mean, I think the more or less, what I have to say is like, I miss it. I miss being able to, uh, to get together and share musical ideas in person jam out with friends. Um, and there’s just so much that’s. Not there, or at least not without like a lot of hurdles, like right now, if I were to like, share with friends, like, I’d be like, I’m going to drive, drop it off period, or step in.
[00:34:17] I’ll go away. Or ship it to you. I mean, I’ve definitely shipped. I’ve definitely like shipped stuff this year, like in the local Seattle area, because it was just easier than driving it,
[00:34:29] Emily: but like, you’re talking very literally about like physically sharing what you have with other people. But I think that in terms of sharing ideas and collaboration, like I’ve, I’ve done almost more collaboration than I’ve ever done. And I think part of that is because. Like when I recorded, uh, during the pandemic for that Sonora may saw waiting to bloom.
[00:34:50] Um, I had the benefit of. Being kind of early in line in the mixing engineers mind as a friend and not being constrained by, oh wait, we should probably find someone local so we don’t have to fly them in, or we wouldn’t. Cause because otherwise in any other situation you would go with somebody who’s easier to collaborate with.
[00:35:16] And unless you had like very specific direction to give a remote collaboration, As far as like laying down guitar work for a song is, is a little bit more difficult. But since I was in that situation where, um, the producer thought of me, uh, I was given that opportunity and I got to do it from home because I was on the same playing field as local musicians.
[00:35:43] In that regard, I’m not, I would not have gotten that opportunity otherwise. And when it was time for Sonora to record her entire record, which she did in person, uh, things had opened up quite a bit and she was able to hire, um, local musicians though. I think she probably just hired Jessica Lee Mayfield’s people.
[00:36:02] Sure.
[00:36:04] Andrew: Yeah, that’s definitely one way. That’s definitely an interesting wrinkle and just the processing on the subject.
[00:36:11] Emily: Yeah. I mean, I can tell you’re processing in real time. Um, but like, I don’t think that, I think it’s, it’s. I don’t want to say double-edged sword or any other kind of idiom about it, but, you know, there are pros and cons.
[00:36:28] Like there’ve been some really good opportunities that have arisen in this, in this pandemic. Like I’m supposedly going to be a feature as an interview in the pedal movie, which is probably going to be released later this month, early next month at this point. Um, again, I wouldn’t know, I’ve had that opportunity
[00:36:45] Andrew: as the last update that
[00:36:46] Emily: they’re shooting for early April or late March.
[00:36:49] Um, According to their Instagram last time I saw it, but, uh, I don’t think I would have been able to be a part of that if the pandemic hadn’t happened. I mean, they, um, Dan or Michael said that themselves, that, you know, things changed and it presented challenges and opportunities and ultimately like that, that element.
[00:37:14] That element of the pandemic is kind of what you, what you, what you make it, um, make of it. And, you know, there are, there are definitely hard parts. Um, I, I had desperately in the middle of the pandemic realized I needed to get better at internet. Like sure. It was a. Struggle
[00:37:33] Andrew: bus. Yeah. I remember you sending me the, the speed test results and going,
[00:37:39] Emily: yeah, I’m getting one.
[00:37:41] I’m getting 0.1, four of, is that fast enough to do a live stream? Oh, no lady at eight, but, um, I mean, I feel like I feel partly guilty to say that. I think that, um, I don’t think the pandemic. Hurt parts of my career. It definitely hurt. It definitely hurt parts. Like I feel like Sunday crush was getting a ton of momentum playing live shows and collaborating in person to write new material and release a record.
[00:38:17] And obviously the pandemic. For to that, we ended up releasing our record much later than we expected to. We couldn’t do her on it. Um, you know, publications are laying off journalists on mass, which may means there are fewer people even available to potentially write about Sunday crush. And they’re probably more interested in writing about things that will, you know, Get clicks and keep them employed.
[00:38:41] So it’s a little bit harder to release an, a record right now. So that part of that part of it is so fucked, but, um, But having opportunities like the snore, may, the pedal movie, um, other recording things I’ve done, um, the opportunity it gave us to start doing like this video version of this podcast and, um, for me to fill more demos and build new relationships because people aren’t, weren’t able to.
[00:39:12] Go into stores in person and play things. Like, I know I’m kind of getting farther away from sharing, but that’s just, I don’t know how much we, how much we can really save about sharing. Yeah. Yeah. I
[00:39:22] Andrew: mean, there’s only so much to say about sharing itself. Um, and I know it’s like, there’s not a whole lot of depth to the topic, but I think if I wanted to unpack it a little bit more, I guess the.
[00:39:35] The question I have is we’ve got at least a few more months to ride the rest of this out before things start really opening back up and we start seeing some drastic changes to the way we’ve been living life. Let me think. Oh, the government never went and bill gates, everyone’s all. They’re all saying what like expect like by late spring, mid-summer for things to like really start changing dramatically for the better.
[00:40:00] Yeah. Um, Um, which is
[00:40:03] Emily: depends on how quickly people get vaccinated.
[00:40:05] Andrew: Right? Well, we’re already like 50 million people vaccinated, which is like 20% of the us population, which is not 300
[00:40:14] Emily: million people in the United States. Is that
[00:40:17] Andrew: 350 million
[00:40:20] Emily: there’s over 300. There’s over 300. There’s over 300 million people.
[00:40:24] Andrew: Yeah. Yeah. So, sorry, 20% is not, is a higher number than I was going off of.
[00:40:33] Emily: Don’t do the math in your head. If you can’t do the math today said we’re at
[00:40:37] Andrew: 50 million. Um, sorry. I just, I was thinking 250 million in my head for some reason. I know that’s not right anyways. Um,
[00:40:50] Emily: it’s 14%.
[00:40:52] Andrew: Well, there we go. Yeah. That’s not insignificant. And I think things are starting to ramp up. I I’m really hopeful, but in the meantime, what I’m looking at is like, this is a final home stretch.
[00:41:03] How do we make the most of it between here, now in here? And instead of just like barely getting by it, which is, I feel like sections of the last year, I’ve definitely felt like I’m just like I woke up today and that’s my win. And, uh,
[00:41:22] Emily: I got I put on pants, that’s a win, you know, that kind of thing. You know, I didn’t cry.
[00:41:33] I didn’t cry. I didn’t, I didn’t cry in the shower today. That’s a win.
[00:41:38] Andrew: Although that, that is always cathartic, but I don’t know. I’m trying to think in terms of like, This is the final stretch. How do we do this the best way possible? How do we make the most of this without like, without setting yourselves, like unrealistic expectations, like I’m going to be happy and I’m going to beat.
[00:41:59] Emily: I never thought I would say this, but it kind of reminds me of something. I. Randomly saw in gear talk, praise and worship today. Oh no, I know. I never thought I would say that, but a guy was talking about how he thought that when he was able to play at church again, he’d be like euphoric. And he was like setting up or warming up before a service and he just felt dreadful.
[00:42:21] And I think, I think that’s, that’s, there’s going to be a very weird. A weird transition because a year is a long time for like new habits to take hold. Like I know for a fact I’m not the only person who watches like older TV shows and sees large gatherings and is like, ah, like where’s everyone’s masks.
[00:42:42] And that’s like kind of a knee-jerk reaction now is to kind of be like that doesn’t seem right. That doesn’t seem safe. Um, And I said this kind of since toward the beginning, like it’s one thing to say, when is like live music going to come back. When are people going to feel comfortable being in crowded, poorly ventilated spaces, listening to bands that could, that could honestly be a minute.
[00:43:06] And, um, I think that there’s going to be like two types of people, people who will just be busting down the door to see any show, go to any festival, just be out, like run a muck. And then there’s going to be people who are going to have a much harder time, even if like in their brain, they know like I should be gunning for this.
[00:43:26] I should be like super excited, but there’s something in the back of my brain. That’s like this doesn’t feel safe because it hasn’t been safe for, for over a year.
[00:43:34] Andrew: Sure. I mean, we’ve all collectively experienced, um, a life altering trauma for the last year. So everyone responds to trauma differently and I think everyone’s going to have a slightly different response.
[00:43:51] Um,
[00:43:54] Emily: I don’t know. Yeah, but it’s like, some people are more comfortable like being around others right now at outdoor patios kind of things. And some people want to wear a mask outside, like on their, like on like I wear a mask on my walk to the mailbox. Sure. Yeah. But, you know, it’s funny to start talking about sharing an hour.
[00:44:18] It just, I think it was pretty inevitable that it would come back to it being about the anniversary of COVID and about the anniversary of like my last live shows in front of people. Um, well, like on the day, on a day, on the day, this drops will be the anniversary of the last Sunday cross show in front of people, which was in Dallas, it was a private show and it was really fun.
[00:44:41] And we took, we took a bunch of posters home from that show. And then I never got like my couple posters because I did then I just wasn’t able to see my band for like four months after that.
[00:44:56] Andrew: Yeah. I think it’d be really easy for me if like, feel a whole ton of despair about it hitting one year and I’m trying not to let myself go there, um, which they’re like, oh, We’re really hit steep.
[00:45:08] I think I want to be able to think about this and like positive terms of like home stretch. We’re almost there hang tight, continue to be safe, but what are things we can do to try and amplify the rest of our experience or is the best thing we can do is just maintain. So I think the idea of sharing kind of came to mind.
[00:45:26] Um, I think being able to share food last in the last month, like making like larger batches of food with the intent to share has been really. I think that’s been, even if I haven’t had a chance to like sit down and eat with someone it’s been like on a personal, like really healthy, gratifying level. Um, really important for me.
[00:45:47] Emily: Yeah. I mean, that’s natural. I mean, I’ve. I had, um, I went to a, this bottle shop near my house the other day with, with my band yesterday, with my band. And, uh, and that was really nice to just be able to see them again, but, you know,
[00:46:09] to share moments, but I don’t know. I feel, I feel like my brain is just more going toward like, yes, it’s the one-year anniversary of things. Locking down. It’s. Today or tomorrow is probably the one year anniversary of Seattle announcing that we knew for a fact that it was spreading within the community.
[00:46:29] Yeah. Um, appropriate. I swallowed spit weird, but that was bad timing for a cough.
[00:46:43] Right. Um, so. I think that there’s just, there’s going to be, I think a lot of collective grief, um, that we will all share because really we w when, when, when COVID started, um, and it became real, and it was obvious that like, life was not going to continue as normal south by Southwest got canceled. Um, I think that we started grieving and I think we all kind of took different speeds on the grieving.
[00:47:08] And, and now that we’re coming up on an anniversary of. Of that grief it’s it’s going to come back. And I think that just being aware of like, why this is happening. Like, I feel like January was really hard for me because I was looking back like, man, I haven’t like been to my gym in a year. I haven’t like I’ve had one haircut in the past year and all these kinds of things.
[00:47:29] And I like it. It’s going to be, it’s going to be a hard couple of weeks for a lot of people just because you’re going to be coming to, you know, Like you said, you’re going to start seeing those Facebook memories are going to be you and locked down. Right. You know, um, pictures that you took at the grocery store of there being no bottled water.
[00:47:55] Toilet paper.
[00:47:57] Andrew: Yeah. I’ve got those pictures on my phone. I don’t think I post
[00:48:00] Emily: it on that work in working through some of those 12 papers holes. Yeah. You know, and it’s, it’s a lot of bad memories. It’s like, I’m going to remember driving around Dallas with my band, trying to find hand sanitizer and us realizing that if people were panicking in Dallas, like we expected it to be panicked in Seattle, but people are panicking in Dallas.
[00:48:23] That’s I think kind of when it hit us that this is real and everywhere.
[00:48:29] Andrew: I remember going to trader Joe’s, um, and like filling up a cart. Um, yeah, about this time last year and going to check out and I don’t think like everyone was wearing masks quite yet. At that point,
[00:48:44] Emily: nobody was wearing masks. We were told not to.
[00:48:48] We were told it. Wasn’t helpful. No.
[00:48:51] Andrew: I remember checking out and like, I like 20 cans of black beans is like one of the outstanding ones. And the guy’s like, what are you planning on doing with all of these? I’m like eating them. He’s like with what? And I’m like, whatever I happen to have left, it depends on how open the sores are in two weeks.
[00:49:07] Yeah. And he’s just, like
[00:49:08] Emily: I told Rick to go to the, I told Rick to go to Costco and just like, I’m like, It had an enormous bag of rice and some other things like, yeah,
[00:49:16] Andrew: I was going for non-perishables. Um, yeah. And I just remember the look on this poor kid’s face as he’s checking out and going through the, this is, this is happening.
[00:49:26] Isn’t it, as he’s just checked and everybody in, in line had just was clearing out the store with everything. Yeah. Yeah. Downer. Yeah. It’s super doubter. I think, I think you’re right. I think we are gonna share in that grief. Um, yeah, but I say that with a chuckle, but I also say that with like a little bit of hope in that, in the sense of we’ve been home for long enough to know that we aren’t alone.
[00:49:56] I think to a degree I’ve internalized it. I think for the first couple months it felt like super isolating. Post-apocalyptic like I’m last minute alive on earth, kind of the feeling, um, Obviously, not quite that much, but to a degree, it certainly felt like that. And I think, I think it’s been long enough for me to feel like, okay, well I know, like I, I’ve internalized that I’m not alone, that we’re all sharing in this experience.
[00:50:22] And we all, we all trying to support each other in this experience moving forward and kind of just share that. And I think there’s something really nice and comforting about that thought. And I kind of wanted to lean into. Kind of wanna encourage all the listeners, all the viewers to lean into that, um, know there that they’re not alone.
[00:50:42] Um,
[00:50:44] Emily: the first step to getting past grief is to, you know, acknowledge it. And that’s what I always learned about. That’s what my therapist told me about. Like panic attacks, especially is to just like, firstly acknowledge it, but also acknowledge it the way you would a toddler having a tantrum in the corner and like, yep, this is hard.
[00:51:03] This sucks. But it. We’ll pass. And, uh, we just have to have faith and understanding that uh it’ll I think for the first time, in a long time, like just seeing that we’ve vaccinated two and a half, almost two and a half million Americans the other day, I’m feeling optimistic. Like. Yeah, I’m feeling a little, at least a little bit optimistic.
[00:51:32] I feel like there’s a light at the end of the tunnel finally. And this may be something that we can have, you know, live music again and all like our normal lives and go to the gym and go to restaurants without feeling worried and be around people and family and not worried that you’re going to kill them or they’re going to kill you.
[00:51:54] But. Yeah, sure.
[00:51:57] Andrew: That kind of thing. So one of the things that’s been sitting on the side of my desk this entire last year has been the stack of stickers that I brought to Nam and forgot to give away.
[00:52:09] And I’ve been slowly giving me a way as I’ve like seen people locally, um, in limited capacities. And I’ve definitely sent them in the mail to other folks as well. Um, but it’s kind of just been like a weird haunting. Like when I got home from me, I’m like, oh, well, I’ll give them away in the next couple of weeks.
[00:52:26] It’d be pretty easy. Uh, or the next couple of months and being forced in isolation, staring at this for the last year has been like a really weird, like constant working reminder of like, I haven’t seen people. Um, yeah. So, uh, I don’t know, maybe this is a really dumb idea for me, logistically speaking, but if you want one just messages and, uh, Well, a couple stickers in an envelope.
[00:52:52] That’s a stamp. I could probably manage that.
[00:52:56] Emily: Oh my God. Are you going to handle all those inquiries, Andrew? Cause I am not message. Andrew
[00:53:04] Andrew: message me on a message me on Instagram. Be polite.
[00:53:09] Um,
[00:53:10] Emily: the beardy Andrew one or the Fox
[00:53:12] Andrew: Cairo one, let’s not please don’t clog up the Fox Cairo dams. Um, but send me a message request on my profile and on Instagram, my personal profile, and I’ll try and send them
[00:53:25] Emily: and R a that’s LinkedIn, the official get offset, a summary bio, whatever on Instagram.
[00:53:30] Andrew: Yeah, shoot me a link. I think it, I think this would be a neat little thing to do to connect a little bit to share and, uh, I don’t know, take it as a little memento of we’re almost there and you’re not alone. How does that sound?
[00:53:43] Emily: That sounds like a nice place to end it. Yeah. All right. Cheers.
[00:53:50] Andrew: Andrew know, we talked about so much gear this week.
[00:53:54] Emily: We did talk about gear though. Why did
[00:53:59] yeah, sometimes. Sometimes you just need to take a break from it. But, um, yeah, I think this is a kind of a shared experience beyond being like a musical instrument. Totally podcast. Yeah. Cool. Well, um, Yeah, I forgot to talk about a patrion.com/get offset. Please support us. Uh, everyone of the $5 level and above gets access to our special discord server.
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[00:55:36] Andrew: and final reminder that I feel compelled to share, um, tip your food service workers. Double cool.
[00:55:43] Emily: Cool. Yeah, I liked that one.
[00:55:44] Yeah. Uh, thanks for watching. Thanks
[00:55:47] Andrew: for listening.
[00:55:49] Emily: Thanks for understanding until next time. My name is Emily. My name
[00:55:53] Andrew: is Andrew
[00:55:54] Emily: good-bye.
