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Get Offset Episode 138: LIPSTICK!

Get Offset Episode 138: LIPSTICK!

Surprise, even the gear industry has feuds and drama! This week, Emily and Andrew talk about a recent rift between two builders and wonder…who’s the asshole?

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Outro song is “Little Pink Room” by Michelle Sullivan and the All Night Boys (feat. Emily on guitar)

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Outro song is “Little Pink Room” by Michelle Sullivan and the All Night Boys (feat. Emily on guitar)

Episode Transcript

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[00:00:00] Emily: welcome to the guitar set podcast. My name is Emily

[00:00:17] Andrew: and my name is

[00:00:17] Emily: Andrew with his fancy pants round the ice cube. Uh, that was the single rock for his Woodinville whiskey. For that he’s so dramatically made people who are listening. You just missed Andrew pouring whiskey very slowly into the camera.

[00:00:35] Andrew: And I’ll have, you know, it’s, that’s no ice cube. It’s a death star. It’s a

[00:00:42] Emily: death star shaped ice cube. You’re kidding me. Is it really? There

[00:00:46] Andrew: really is. I’ll have to send you photos. It’s great. So, what do you pop it upside down? It shows like the laser dish on it.

[00:00:59] I’m kidding. I’m kidding. I’m kidding. Don’t do that folks. Pretty responsibly.

[00:01:03] Emily: Don’t get obliterated like I did at, um, tacos and beer joint this evening. Just kidding. I do margaritas. No, I had them a while ago. We’re actually recording this in the evening. Normally we record in the morning. So we’ll have a different kind of energy today.

[00:01:20] Different kinds of hot in Seattle. So that energy might just be heat stroke.

[00:01:26] Andrew: Yeah. Which I’m intimately familiar with.

[00:01:30] Emily: Yeah, I believe that says the guy who poisoned himself with bleach fumes or dishwasher.

[00:01:36] Andrew: I moved to Seattle to get away from this

[00:01:38] Emily: because I lived in Nashville for eight years.

[00:01:42] Andrew: I lived in Azusa and it would, it was routinely 110 degrees there.

[00:01:46] Cause it was right at the base of the foothills. So all the wind over from like, uh, From over the not Palm Springs, Palmdale from Palmdale would all come in from the desert over the foothills and drop into the valley. And so we just get these crazy hot winds coming in in the afternoon and just, I kid you not the handle on the back of my Prius, melted off and dripped down the license plate when we lived

[00:02:09] Emily: there.

[00:02:10] Well, how

[00:02:11] Andrew: about that? I hated that couldn’t deal with it. I was miserable. Like I’ll move to Seattle. I it’ll be a lot cooler there when I didn’t realize at the time. No AC no

[00:02:22] Emily: one has AC here that window unit. Well, we have a unit in the bedroom that we will start to bring out when it approaches 82 degrees.

[00:02:33] And we will sleep with it probably a little bit, you know, in Seattle when it gets to be like 90 degrees, that’s really oppressively hot in a three-story town home, like one I live in. And so my husband and I will put the unit in the bedroom. We’ll just hang out in the bedroom all day and like watch TV and the cat will hang out with us because she will be like, oh, wow, that’s nice.

[00:02:55] Andrew: Yeah. I’m in a rambler with terrible installation, big windows and skylights.

[00:03:02] Emily: That I can’t shut. You gotta put some, put some foil in this

[00:03:06] Andrew: one middle of last year. I just didn’t realize it was going to be this hot this week. I wasn’t prepped for, I didn’t even know that I’ve got to AC in it. And, uh, didn’t have either of them in the windows,

[00:03:16] Emily: people who aren’t from Seattle, we have something called January, which is the idea that you will, you have a nice spring.

[00:03:22] And then in June it suddenly gets cold. Again. But the first two days of June were like the hottest days of the year, so far. So I believe in global warming turn off the podcast. Now, if you don’t agree with global warming it’s scientific stuff.

[00:03:41] Andrew: Wow. We just lost two thirds of our listeners.

[00:03:43] Emily: Um, I hope not like, honestly, like at this, I, I th I think we’ve reached the point that if I say something that’s.

[00:03:54] Vaguely to the left of center. If somebody gets mad and this is the first podcast episode they’ve ever listened to and they were never going to like me and that’s fine. I don’t need to be liked. I need to be feared.

[00:04:10] It’s afraid of me is anybody afraid of me?

[00:04:14] Andrew: Depends on whether they not, they know that you have a boxing gym members.

[00:04:22] Yep. Yep. Yep. So I’m melting. I got three hours of sleep earlier this week. I was tossing and turning like wide awake, staring at the ceiling, like sweating until about three in the morning. Finally fell asleep, woke up at four 30, then he fell asleep again. Lauren went off at six and had to get up and be in the office by seven.

[00:04:38] Somehow I managed to get through my day and actually function and do my job. Well, I don’t know how.

[00:04:44] Emily: Yeah. My husband also wakes up. He wakes up early, like you do. He wakes up at five and then he does his morning routine. He goes for a walk with a neighbor, but so I’m used to waking up in the bed, like just me and the cat.

[00:04:56] Right? Well, it’s morning. My alarm goes off and I’m like, go like checking my phone. This dude just pops out. He just pops out of bed, pops up in the bed. It’s up in the bed. I was like, well, Jesus Christ, where did you come from? It’s like, oh, it’s taking a nap with the cat. His birthday was a Tuesday.

[00:05:22] Andrew: I tell you that we lost poppy.

[00:05:25] Emily: Wait, you mean I could not find her or she died? She okay.

[00:05:33] Andrew: Is now so yesterday, was it yesterday? No, so yeah, so I, I went to the gym, I got home, I was taking a shower. It was out of the showers, like kind of dry off my hair and getting ready to put it up for the day. And Melissa, like, I can’t find poppy. I’m sitting here thinking back in my head like, oh, I didn’t see her last night.

[00:05:52] And she usually sleeps in the bed with us.

[00:05:55] Emily: It’s been so hot. My cat hasn’t been sleeping in the bed with us.

[00:05:58] Andrew: Well, that ended up being what the issue was. We checked every quarter. The house could not find her. I’m freaking out. I got dressed real quick. I’m jogging around the neighborhood. I called my boss and said, Hey, boss.

[00:06:09] I’m going to be late. It’s a family emergency. And he’s like, what? Family member? Like my cat. And he’s like, you’re all good. Pets are family too. Totally understand. Let me know when you’re, when you can make it in because my boss is rockstar and, um, I’m running around, like I’m asking my neighbors, I’m like knocking on people’s doors.

[00:06:26] Like, can I check your backyard? I swear. I’m not going to steal anything freaking out. And then Melissa calls me and she’s like, We found poppy, you can come home now.

[00:06:36] Emily: Where was she?

[00:06:37] Andrew: She, she was in like the depths of one of the closets, like crawl past the normal stuff. It was like wedged in like a space like this big, where it’s dark and cold, dark and cold.

[00:06:48] And apparently she was awoken at that point. Cause we were like, we were like hitting the food dish, like Pappy, come get your dinner. He fat lard, like.

[00:06:58] Emily: Yeah. Good reference. Getting the pulling dynamite reference. Yeah. I told you at the time, my, my niece and my brother and sister-in-law came over and I just, I, I thought the cat had gotten out.

[00:07:08] I thought we were never gonna see her again. And she had managed to somehow get under my dress or the clearance of which is maybe like three and a half inches. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it’s so scary. You can’t find a cat cause they’re just so good at hiding. Cause like your part of your brain is. It’s a cat. It’s fine.

[00:07:28] It’s just hits somewhere. They’re good at hiding. And the other half of your brain is like, it’s gone forever.

[00:07:34] Andrew: Yeah, no, I feel like there’s no way that my like seven pound cat is going to survive outside. Like the other night I heard something in the backyard. So I’m like looking at like looking at 40 pound raccoon that was like digging up worms in my backyard, tearing up my grass,

[00:07:47] Emily: Kara would die immediately.

[00:07:48] She would just have a heart attack. The moment she left the house,

[00:07:52] Andrew: we see coyotes our neighborhood. And just like, there’s no way popping. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:07:56] Emily: Rick was like, I was like, I rec I think she got out and he’s like, that’s not Carrie. She’s like afraid of the open door. Like if you open the drawer door, she scurries out.

[00:08:08] Yeah. Carrie doesn’t. But I thought that maybe she had some help. Gotten somewhere she couldn’t get out. And I thought she was like stuck and going to die, like stuck in the wall or something. It was terrifying. This is a guitar podcasts. This is a guitar podcast, dedicated, upsetting the status quo of guitar culture.

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[00:08:48] Uh, you get access to our super secret. This discord

[00:08:52] Andrew: server. Yeah. Secret. No one’s ever heard of it.

[00:08:56] Emily: It’s secret admission. I mean, listen, you can, you can know a secret club exists, but it doesn’t mean you’re going to get out. Right. Like the veil profits. I still think the most crazy thing about that. Uh, I keep calling her Kimmy Schmidt that, um, Kelly is that she is of the Missouri Kimbers.

[00:09:17] And when somebody says you’re of the state last name, you just know that you just know that family is really good. Yeah. It’s like, if you Google her, if you look at her, Wikipedia says she’s a member of the Missouri. Kemper’s like, that’s a cool Midwestern half a billion dollars and people aren’t calling her an industry plant.

[00:09:44] No,

[00:09:45] Andrew: I said a ministry plan, just someone who didn’t have to worry about paying rent for the first decade of their career so that they could pursue opportunities and career moves to get in the right places.

[00:09:54] Emily: It’s like, if you have enough talent, eventually all you need is persistence

[00:09:59] Andrew: sometimes, but also I’ve known talented people that give up on their persistence because they needed to, you know, make rent and eat.

[00:10:08] Emily: Wow. Yeah. I mean, there’s never guarantees and showbiz. Nope, Nope. And helps though, when your family

[00:10:15] Andrew: is, it helps to have money and not have to worry. It helps to have a safety net, not have to worry about it and able to take on unpaid internships. It helps for people to know people is certain levels of society.

[00:10:24] People know each other, there’s just no way around it.

[00:10:27] Emily: Um, and I just, that just opened some doors. My Hey Vinny,

[00:10:33] Andrew: my dad had Allie. She’d like to get into acting. I am not getting into acting because my Italian accent is terrible. You know, anybody we could hire,

[00:10:44] Emily: supposed to be in Italian. My dude, I don’t know what it was supposed to be a better Italian accent when she was princess peach on SNL,

[00:10:53] Andrew: I’m going to go with vague mobster.

[00:10:58] Emily: Uh, I think

[00:11:02] Andrew: racist.

[00:11:04] Emily: One of my favorite Russian act. My mother, her accent said it was the Russian accent. Cause I, um, a friend of mine in high school had, um, a re uh, Ukrainian foreign exchange student. And I’ll never forget the time sheet. We were talking about Alaska and she says, United States to not buy Alaska.

[00:11:21] They are borrowing it.

[00:11:27] And you had to stay to not by Alaska there. Sarah,

[00:11:30] Andrew: Palin’s looking with the binoculars at our window. Oh, it’s happening?

[00:11:35] Emily: You know what the difference between a pit bull and a hockey mommy lipstick, lipstick. It’s lipstick. It’s lipstick. It’s lips. Oh, yeah, sure. You bet ya. Uh, you know, I just want to go down to the minute Minnesota state fair this year, get some Pronto pups, you know, get a, uh, you know, cause Pronto pups are just better than corn dogs because you know the corn, he’s just not the best batter for a hot dog.

[00:12:02] You gotta really get the, uh, that whole, that whole green. You gotta get that whole green batter. Cause he’s just a little bit healthier for you. You know, and then you get to the sweet Martha’s cookies. You get the big bucket of the cookies. You see them all melted into the pavement.

[00:12:23] Sorry. A very specific subset of people, Ryan from about Pronto pups, the Minnesota state fair was briefly a client of mine. And I was talking about content ideas for them. And I mentioned Pronto pups. And they’re like, where are you from? I’m like, I’m from Ohio. I live in Nashville. They’re like, how do you know what a Pronto pup is, honey?

[00:12:48] Like, wow. Did you do your research?

[00:12:51] Andrew: Oh, Minnesota. Oh

[00:12:52] Emily: yeah, sure. You bet.

[00:12:54] Andrew: I’ve been once went to a diner and

[00:12:58] Emily: one from a jingle all the way

[00:13:00] Andrew: I say waiter, could I get, uh, can I get a large Coke? And he’s like, oh, sorry, we don’t do large. Here we only do mini sodas. I’m pretty sure this is the second time I’ve told that joke in the podcast to

[00:13:15] Emily: a mini soda.

[00:13:16] Andrew: Joe, I think I told that joke. The first time we had Mike Adams on, I mean, I have to go back and relive some.

[00:13:22] Emily: I’m pretty sure I did. I had him on once the ones that seem like a twice. Oh, you’re right.

[00:13:32] Andrew: I’m like I, is this heat giving me like, fever dreams, like what’s is this real like,

[00:13:38] Emily: well, right before this podcast started, I comply.

[00:13:40] I combine the remanence of a lime and a lemon LaCroix and called it a surprise.

[00:13:46] Andrew: Yeah. But the lime and lemon LaCroix,

[00:13:49] Emily: you put the

[00:13:49] Andrew: lime in the, oh, we started this podcast. It was 73 degrees in my room because I’ve been running the AC all day. I turned off the AC because I love all of your ear. It is now six

[00:14:01] Emily: degrees.

[00:14:02] Okay, well, we’re going to just keep on going, keep on going. No, in this episode, they get all set podcast is sponsored by rude tech affects based out of Nashville, Tennessee they’re makers of the, uh, The, uh, what’s it called? What’s it called there? Andrew,

[00:14:22] the three, my 14. It’s a three rushing big mops. And one, you got the black green and the civil war. And you can basically turn it into a little op-amp by bad passing, that tone circuit. So you bypass the tone circuit gives it this nice open California sound, which is pretty neat. You can also turn on this optical, uh, shit,

[00:14:46] Andrew: gotta say don’t love the California. So

[00:14:49] Emily: anyway. Oh, but remember you started with that. Op-amp. At the Tacoma guitar show and you, uh, you ended up trading NetApp PR pretty good. You did a pretty good job on that, but, uh, getting back to rude tech affects, it’s gotta be optional mid-stride that you go after, after the fuzz and helps your mids out.

[00:15:10] And it’s a really nice fuzz. I really like it. Check out our demo, use the COTA, get offset to get free domestic shipping and a discount on your international shipping there. Yeah, sure. You bet. So

[00:15:24] Andrew: I, the, when he first started that accident, I just assumed that it was the Tina Fey and. Or 19 eight, Sarah, Pailin the same

[00:15:32] Emily: difference, Sarah, Tina Fey as Sarah Palin, but more like maybe

[00:15:41] Andrew: maybe you worked on like that, that script, that like, you know that bit for a bit

[00:15:45] Emily: with that. Oh, you thought I could just say those words, dude. I lived with someone from Minneapolis for a couple of years. Nailing it. You know, I had a lot of practice. I can actually pull it back and make it a little bit more realistic and less of a caricature, but it’s, it’s a pretty nice, it’s pretty good.

[00:16:03] You know, just to get some water, cause you really need that water in your mouth to really get that accent, the water. Cause they’d say water and I would watch her. I love, I love, love, love Minneapolis.

[00:16:15] Andrew: My pops from Jacksonville, Florida, and he’s always said water and it’s always

[00:16:20] Emily: about me. That sounds more Philly.

[00:16:26] Andrew: I can’t

[00:16:27] Emily: get, I can’t say

[00:16:29] Andrew: I can’t say the same way that my boss says it. I don’t know he was born and raised in Jacksonville, but then we’ll live, lived in Nebraska for the last 30 years.

[00:16:41] Emily: I feel like that’s a really a Philly thing.

[00:16:46] Andrew: It’s not wood or there’s like, there’s a different vowel inflection going. It’s similar, but there’s a difference. It’s like water,

[00:16:56] Emily: some water from the Wawa,

[00:16:59] Andrew: two vowels happening in sequence, even though there’s only one vowel in the word before the T yeah. Yeah.

[00:17:07] Emily: What, or my mom has been upset cause I’ve, I feel like I’ve been turning some of my T’s in the middle of wards and tidies and she gets upset about it, but my parents have always been kind of like, well, they would get mad if I would say like a sentence like that.

[00:17:25] Uh, but like, I think I was saying for instead of four and they were like, eh, Not for I’m like give still cares. I don’t care.

[00:17:39] Andrew: We’ll go check them out.

[00:17:43] Emily: Yes. And check out the ain’t afraid fuzz and the kit was actually quite fun to put together. I have it. What were there

[00:17:59] was it with you? What’s the need for heat where he crazy right now?

[00:18:06] Andrew: Yeah, I wasn’t prepared. So I what’s new with me is I installed this window unit and the hose isn’t quite, as long as I thought it was going to be, I might have to rethink how I’ve got my space built out here. I might have to rethink how my space is built out in here.

[00:18:24] Just to accommodate the scene.

[00:18:27] Emily: Just put it up against the window.

[00:18:30] Andrew: Uh, well, cause it’s not a window unit. It’s a floor unit or the hose that goes to the outside. Then I have to fit the hose into the window, but I don’t have sliding windows or sliding windows. I used to be a mind.

[00:18:44] Emily: Really good. So how does this, so I was supposed to work.

[00:18:48] Andrew: Yeah. One of those like canned crank windows, it goes out like this. And so I did do, as you put the hook, the hose for it, like in where the hand Creek is, and then. Tie against it. So it’s between the window, the

[00:18:59] Emily: edge of the window. Put like some cardboard or?

[00:19:02] Andrew: Yeah, so right now I haven’t done last year. What it is, I like custom cut, like some styrofoam for it.

[00:19:08] Got to fit it in. Yeah. Some duct tape, some, a fiberglass installation. Another piece of styrofoam kind of just got it all insulated and completely like no air flow, no heat should have been coming through it. It was pretty rock solid. It looked ugly. Yeah. It’s definitely.

[00:19:24] Emily: You only needed a couple months of the year though.

[00:19:26] So that’s

[00:19:27] Andrew: right now, I currently have some exposed fiberglass installation that was just laying around that I grabbed without a glove and just stuffed up there. And, uh, my towel that’s fine. Just wash it after.

[00:19:41] Emily: Yeah. I was. So I think I’ve been telling I’ve been really busy and I’m just going to tell, tell folks I’ve been so busy and really overwhelmed, and now things are starting to open up.

[00:19:53] Like I did all this stuff to fill my time when the band was kind of on, Hey, Hey, it is because of COVID and now they’re coming back and I was thinking like, how can I juggle all this stuff at once? I haven’t wrote a book in a year. I haven’t really been able to have fun with guitar and stuff. Cause I’ve been so busy working.

[00:20:07] I finally put a notice, uh, on a freelance gig that I’ve been doing, um, with the company I had started with back in 2006, I’ve been doing some help with them on the weekends, but I’ll tell you. I miss weekends ever read a book in a year, but I was reading mark Lanigan’s autobiography, his memoir, and he talked about, uh, he was out with the lady in west Seattle and they ended up having sex on the whole of a boat.

[00:20:32] And he didn’t realize that the boat was fiberglass. Oh no. And the next day his ass was just burning and he found out that it was because of all the friction. From sleeping, having sex with this woman on this boat. So he just a bunch of shards of fiberglass in his ass, and I could not stop laughing. I was like, this is why I need to read more stories like this will bring me such laughter

[00:21:02] Andrew: it reminds me, you know, the differences between bud light and sex in a, in a boat.

[00:21:06] Emily: Let’s stick.

[00:21:12] What’s the difference between a pit bull and a half? I was just pulling the punchline from other joke. What was this? But sex on a boat?

[00:21:23] Andrew: Well, the it, sorry, I misspoke. What, what, what to a bud light insects in a boat have in common.

[00:21:29] Emily: Okay. They’ll both make you nauseated.

[00:21:32] Andrew: What is it?

[00:21:39] Emily: That’s the first time you said the F word on this podcast, man,

[00:21:42] Andrew: I think I’ve said it once or twice before.

[00:21:44] Emily: You’ve probably said back when we were still bleeping. Cause we’re not bleeping anymore. It’s fine. Listeners. He made a face. You can just imagine

[00:22:05] Oh, my God. Well that’s

[00:22:11] I got my niece into it a little bit, but I don’t think she was super duper impressed.

[00:22:16] Andrew: We’re always like old white men.

[00:22:19] Emily: They are so realistic. All right.

[00:22:25] Andrew: Time to find out has been ruining the

[00:22:26] Emily: economy. I shouldn’t have said that.

[00:22:34] Yes.

[00:22:37] Andrew: Oh, I do have something that’s actually new with me. I forgot I

[00:22:44] Emily: have stickers.

[00:22:46] Andrew: Just some samples I’m certainly out. Um, and looking at doing,

[00:22:50] Emily: he is, it is swell with my soul sticker with his, uh, Vernie. Uh, Bernie ball is a guitar pedal as a, with a nondescript

[00:22:59] Andrew: volume pedal. Thank you. And then here’s a big one that will probably be easily seen

[00:23:02] Emily: on camera.

[00:23:05] Andrew: Uh, I think I will not refer to

[00:23:08] Emily: them. It’s it’s, it’s it’s generic. I’m going to sideways hold up and identical volume pedal. That is definitely not a Vernie ball and looks

[00:23:17] Andrew: almost identical to what I have

[00:23:19] Emily: it is because that is the shape of a volume

[00:23:21] Andrew: pedal. Yeah. Anyone who happens to create a unit that looks relatively similar to this should be Pappy.

[00:23:28] It’s being used in a very positive

[00:23:29] Emily: way. Shout out to my tent, my friend, Tim, from Ernie ball. Uh, did you see my

[00:23:34] Andrew: statement? No.

[00:23:37] Emily: Well, I said Ernie ball, so I just want to say, Hey Tim, thank you for letting me demo the stingray R S the music man, stingray RS. It was a very, yeah. It was maybe one of the nicest guitars of the plate in my life, just straight from a construction standpoint.

[00:23:52] Uh, like it’s not, it’s not tuna town, but it was very, very nice and obviously thoughtful, like the people who made it play guitar. And, uh, you know, just sometimes there’s a little extra touches. Like I play a lot of budget guitars, a lot of Squires, especially because of the demo channel. Um, It’s really nice to every once in a while.

[00:24:12] I’ll just be like, oh yes, this is what we, as human beings have the capacity to make something this absolutely

[00:24:18] Andrew: stunning QC is top-notch. I,

[00:24:20] Emily: uh, you can see, you can tell why they’re like $2,400.

[00:24:24] Andrew: Yep. No, I, so I, I, this is going to make sense in a moment. I really disliked gold hardware in 98% of guitars. I just,

[00:24:34] Emily: it’s not for me.

[00:24:36] Andrew: Even then none of them for the most part. It’s not my thing. I’m not poo-pooing anyone else’s just personal preference. I just, it doesn’t sit well with me. Um, I will always go for Chrome. I mean, look great. I didn’t even get a yellow gold wedding ring. I mean,

[00:24:53] Emily: it’s not my thing. See my wedding ring. Sure.

[00:24:57] It’s my wedding ring. That’s not

[00:25:01] Andrew: it’s. It’s lucky.

[00:25:03] Emily: It’s silica.

[00:25:05] Andrew: Uh, camera’s

[00:25:07] Emily: fuzzy now,

[00:25:09] Andrew: come on, come on with you and no, did that not

[00:25:14] Emily: do it? You made it worse. Yeah. Move around wildly.

[00:25:28] Andrew: There we go, sorry. You just got

[00:25:32] to

[00:25:32] Emily: close to my nose was putting his hand over his camera lens to try to get it to, um, refocus. It didn’t work. So then he just put his face really close to it and then slowly back the way in that one

[00:25:43] Andrew: pours in my nose.

[00:25:45] Emily: Yeah. I’m not doing that right now. Cause I have a little setup,

[00:25:48] Andrew: like the Bre pore strips.

[00:25:53] No, like you put it like that, it looks like a little like mini Mascarinas. It’s like loosen your nose and you rip it and it pulls out all of the, all the gunk

[00:26:01] Emily: out of your port. Yeah. I wanted those really badly in high school. My parents were like,

[00:26:04] Andrew: no, it was horrifying. What I do.

[00:26:08] Emily: I mean, it seems

[00:26:09] Andrew: really cathartic.

[00:26:10] Oh, it’s great. No, no, let’s do that again. Anyway, I’m getting so sidetracked ball did a limited run. I am working my way back to stickers. Like I started stickers. We have now worked our way into several rabbit trails. I need to finalize work my way through to get back to the store.

[00:26:27] Emily: You chase rabbits down holes.

[00:26:32] Sure.

[00:26:34] Andrew: That makes sense. That’s valid. Um, now that we’ve resolved that rabbit hole, Ernie ball did a James fountain signature limited run with gold hardware, the white and the roasted maple neck. I love the James Valentine signature in general. I think it’s a really great guitar. I think that the writing for it is really clever.

[00:27:00] I think it sounds great. Feels great. If I were to get nerdy ball guitar, that would be the guitar. Get no questions asked, um, with St. Vincent being a close second. And

[00:27:11] Emily: I was thinking St. Vincent. I really I’m hoping I’m going to get to try and demo at least the Goldie series, if not all of them. Um,

[00:27:21] Andrew: Yeah, that one had gold heart.

[00:27:24] The one I’m thinking of, I, I can’t remember if it was a guitar center exclusive or not, but I remember having gold hardware. I’m like, it works on this. I actually, like I would have this on my wall and no questions asked really like it. Yeah. So I’m working back to the stickers. Uh, my friend. Uh, who I used to work at guitar center with once upon a time, her name’s Stephanie, her and her partner starting a sticker business.

[00:27:49] They sent me a couple of these samples. Um, yeah, so I got two different sizes. I think this is like a five inch, like a two and a half inch. Uh, they look great. Uh, I, I got a sample from a drop ship company

[00:28:04] Emily: and they were so

[00:28:04] Andrew: good. Uh, well, two of them showed up smudge. No. And I was really unhappy about that. I made them resend them to me out of principle.

[00:28:12] And then I looked closer on the back of it. It literally says Avery labels.com, which means they’re just taking a like Avery paper. I’m like, it’s lit. If it literally says Avery, I can’t give this to a customer. That’s going to look. I’m going to feel really weird about that. So I’m giving away those samples.

[00:28:27] Emily: If it’s the people I’ve used for sure too, we’ve discussed before you also, you have to charge so much for those stickers. it’s like I put them up just because people were asking for them, but I just want you to know friends. If you order it, get offset sticker, we literally don’t make money from it.

[00:28:46] Andrew: Yep.

[00:28:47] No, they have to charge like eight bucks for a sticker too, which is so

[00:28:51] Emily: stupid. It’s a sticker. They’re not even as good as like the

[00:28:56] Andrew: sticker. I’m going to monetize on stickers. That’s fine. I’m looking at supporting a friend. Who’s starting a small business.

[00:29:03] Emily: Usually you just give stickers away. I mean, the only people who should sell stickers are like bands,

[00:29:07] Andrew: right?

[00:29:08] I I’m thinking about ordering some, sorry. Starting to include them in Fox Cairo orders. I don’t know if I’m going to it doesn’t make technical financial sense and I’m a terrible businessmen, but it’s the sort of fun thing that I like to add to my brand. So I’m not like supporting friends. So I’m probably going to do that in the next couple of weeks.

[00:29:27] Emily: The cool, sorry. I just got an artist working promotional agreement. Yes. And one of them said, one of the things said. When blogging about the company’s products and services, you must clearly disclose your material connection with the company. See, that’s an agreements signed, sealed, delivered. Um, do you wanna know what to do with me?

[00:29:55] Andrew: You got to teach me when.

[00:30:00] Emily: I got to teach Andrew what an EPK is. Uh, no,

[00:30:03] Andrew: I’ve never heard the acronym before. And as soon as I looked I’m like, oh, okay. Yeah. I kind of know what this is already.

[00:30:09] Emily: You taste an electronic press kit. And I just did one for Sunday crush as an example to use in the blog post, I wrote for a company called convert.

[00:30:18] So a check out that should be live this week. Actually. I’m pretty proud of it. Um, I use this tool to take screenshots where I could make gifts of the things I was doing on the screen. Right. Sorry, I’m making what gifts. Okay.

[00:30:34] Andrew: Wilson, I’ve been having this argument for awhile.

[00:30:37] Emily: I’ll say it whichever way. I really don’t.

[00:30:39] I have zero preference. I’m trying to think of anything material I’ve gotten lately. And I know that there has, and I just literally cannot find it because I’ve been literally too busy to live. One second. Let me, oh boy, it’s actually a problem.

[00:31:00] Andrew: Here, let me put it something else that I ordered recently said, um, I get one of my shirts and charcoal, gray. I don’t

[00:31:07] Emily: know. Oh gosh. And for the summer, are you bonkers? You’ll put out immediately.

[00:31:14] Andrew: Yep. You’re going to pay it out. Small change. Uh, so the shirt, you guys can sort out what it is. Uh, if you figure out what it is and let me know you get a crucified, is that a ranger?

[00:31:25] Yes, what is it? What is it that looks like too big of a box would be the minibar. Is that the drum machine? Oh my God.

[00:31:36] Emily: It’s the snare trap. Shut your snare trap. I just opened it on his podcast. It’s number 61.

[00:31:47] Andrew: So close to perfection,

[00:31:49] Emily: I’m actually ready, really excited about this. Um, I’m gonna put it right into my white whale by book warmer facts.

[00:31:59] Actually, I could, I really could do that right now and we’ll pick it up. But, um, I also got to have a band practice with my band this week. First time, since before a Halloween, let me tell you, I was walking up to our practice space and I hear my band mates just laughing. And I thought to myself, life is good.

[00:32:19] Life is good.

[00:32:21] Andrew: That’s a good feeling to

[00:32:22] Emily: have. Yeah. I need to figure out how this, I actually have no idea how this works. It’s not, oh, maybe I plugged in the sound maker. Oh,

[00:32:40] sorry. I just reached redid my desk because it was messy. That’s

[00:32:43] Andrew: totally fair. I cleaned off my desk last week and I can’t find it. Find anything. It’s funny how that works unrelated. Now that I’m starting in the back of my brain and mouse, psycho analyzing what that quote unquote Italian accent was. Uh, my big generic mobster accent.

[00:33:02] And I’m wondering if I didn’t pick that up. I am wondering, I I’m thinking in the back of my head that it’s a voice that John Malaney does that I’m doing a really bad job of mimicking.

[00:33:13] Emily: Well, his voice is I’m supposed to be like good voices,

[00:33:18] Andrew: not like great re recreation’s necessarily. They’re just comedically useful.

[00:33:22] Like I can just hear, I forget what specialist or we can just hear him just saying scratch.

[00:33:28] Emily: Scream. Well, he’s, he’s got like an Italian accent and it is what it is, but yeah, I just heard my bandmates laughing and it made me so happy. I have missed them so much and it’s just so nice. It was the first in-person practice we’ve had since the pandemic.

[00:33:51] Um,

[00:33:56] Andrew: Finally,

[00:34:08] I’m a terribly rude person. I know this,

[00:34:12] Emily: that I have a tuner.

[00:34:16] Andrew: That’s the joke. It’s a bad joke. It’s a mean joke bedroom.

[00:34:21] Emily: I don’t grab a jar.

[00:34:26] I know. I need to read the user manual. This is very exciting for

[00:34:30] Andrew: listeners. I probably should have read the user manual for my dishwasher.

[00:34:35] Emily: Yeah. Well, I think you just should have read the manual for bleach.

[00:34:40] Andrew: So to clarify, as you read through the comments and I didn’t mix it with ammonia or anything else, I’d sound like I had a dishwasher pot in there, so there’s nothing else in the dishwasher.

[00:34:50] That just means I was inhaling bleach. I wasn’t inhaling anything.

[00:34:58] Great job of defending myself now.

[00:35:01] Emily: Yeah. Defending yourself against inhaling bleach.

[00:35:11] No, I have to watch.

[00:35:13] Andrew: That was a fruit fly. No, the fruit flies have returned

[00:35:19] Emily: the worst part of every summer.

[00:35:24] You hear it? Yeah.

[00:35:29] Where are you? I just saw the fruit fly.

[00:35:37] This is not the time to try to be figuring this out.

[00:36:14] I can’t mess with this right now. I’m so sorry. All right. That was too much. That was already too much, but yeah, it had the first band practice and we just jammed, like would jam like no one was watching and, um, The neighbor once we had a neighbor yell at us because the people who had rehearsed in that space before us, like Nate’s before what, too late.

[00:36:42] And we’re like, but that wasn’t us. And she’s like, oh, you know who it was. And we said, we do not. And then she said, well, you didn’t tell them. We’re sorry that happened, but that you’re not mad at us.

[00:37:02] Isn’t that just like amazing when someone, you know, you’re like, you’re not mad at me, but you’re yelling at me. And I don’t like it. So that’s, that was that situation. Um, but no, we just, we just jammed, we had some stuff we were working on right before the pandemic and we like went through and remember the chord progressions and some of the refs had an open jam too.

[00:37:28] And we booked our first gig. We’re booking our first gig. I can’t confirm it yet. We’ll be playing. We’ll be playing. We’ll be playing live shows real soon, fully backs and relaxed,

[00:37:41] Andrew: fully vaccinate relaxed. That’s the, uh, that’s the Anthem of my hashtag sweaty boy summer.

[00:37:48] Emily: That’s true and relaxed band pracs.

[00:37:52] Andrew: Hear about what we’re seeking of vaccinations were getting like entered into drawings for money, just for getting the extra stuff.

[00:38:00] Emily: In Washington.

[00:38:02] Andrew: Yeah. I heard something about Inslee, like freeing up a bunch of money to train. Convince people to get vaccinated by opening

[00:38:08] Emily: up a and allegedly, I didn’t look into it all, but I’ve heard it was really successful that a for five days in a row, they were giving away a million bucks a day to someone who had gotten at least one vaccination shot.

[00:38:20] And so far the people who have won, uh, what I saw publicity on was like an eighth grade boy and a woman in college, which is exactly who you want to see winning that money, because like, Damn. That’s a very life-changing amount of money for somebody like in college for anybody, a million dollars is life changing for anybody who doesn’t already have a million dollars.

[00:38:45] Andrew: Yeah. I imagine just walking up to a realtor and like, I’d like to buy a house like, oh, are you pre-approved? And they’re like, no, Nope. Oh, well

[00:39:00] Emily: no, uh, what’s it called? No inspection cash, cash, no inspection,

[00:39:10] Andrew: like in a, like a band that caters to like, Middle-aged nostalgia.

[00:39:18] Emily: Just cash, no inspections.

[00:39:21] Andrew: Yep. I think that’s a great idea. Kind of like along the, the realm of like middle-class fancy, but like in abandoned pop punk covers cause pop punk is white.

[00:39:30] Like the heyday of pop punk is like 20 years ago now. So a lot of the people that are teenagers during that era,

[00:39:37] Emily: The heyday of pop punk is 2001 boys and gentlemen, according to Andrew, it’s never take him. Not at me, not me. I am. I am. I’m like a middle aged millennial. I’m not an elder millennial. I’m not a young millennial.

[00:39:54] So I’m like you are, I know you’re not a Zoomer. The kids are all right. I liked the generation Z.

[00:40:03] Andrew: I think they’re all right. My last job, I worked with a kid who would like, just turn 18 while he was on the job. And that was super strange. I’m like, oh yeah, like we could get along and stuff. And he was like, it goes back to Snapchat and just ignores me like Tyler.

[00:40:19] Like I thought we going to be friends here and he was like, you’re old

[00:40:23] Emily: young.

[00:40:25] Andrew: I remember he called the old ones and I’m like, that’s it. I give

[00:40:28] Emily: them. I’m sorry, either to call somebody on illness or at least 30. And I say, this is a woman who’s 32,

[00:40:35] Andrew: 24. And he’s like, shut up old man.

[00:40:39] Emily: Something like that. I like that kid resist the urge to

[00:40:46] Andrew: be rude and mean back.

[00:40:48] Cause I can’t beat up a child.

[00:40:50] Emily: How old was he?

[00:40:51] Andrew: He was 17. I think when he said that he was just trying to fit in with a big. And wanted to push back a little bit like RFI and you can have this one. Here’s your street cred

[00:40:59] Emily: enjoy is that you only yell only get one, but do that again and I’ll mess you up and you shoot at me a

[00:41:09] Andrew: sorry, HR.

[00:41:10] I was kidding. I did

[00:41:11] Emily: not mean that. Oh no, no. HR. I haven’t worked at a company with HR since I was 22 years old. And one of those companies, I needed it, but let’s get back talking about my band practice. It felt good. Dude was just with people in the room with them without masks, knowing that you all are vaccinated and safe.

[00:41:33] Like that’s shit, dude, that felt normal. It felt good. Like I needed that like badly. Cause it’s been like, I was just talking about like, I know a lot of people lost work this year, but as someone who started working from home. I, I ended up I’m like, I’m literally saying no to freelance gigs every week now, because I’m just overwhelmed.

[00:41:56] And so to finally like get back to things I actually enjoy doing, I don’t want to work my life away. Like I’m in my thirties. It’s like the last decade of like youngish and I, I don’t want to spend it just like working every weekend just to get some extra scratch, like, you know, I work really hard to be able to like afford things, but then I don’t have the time to enjoy the things.

[00:42:25] And I think that’s just bananas. Like, yeah, no, I make enough money. Now, if I go on vacation, I can stay in like an okay hotel, not a nice hotel, but not the red roof Inn by the airport or the river, like, oh my God, I’ve

[00:42:38] Andrew: seen it. A render of him once it was the scariest experience of it.

[00:42:42] Emily: I’ve stayed in some, some really nice red room.

[00:42:44] The thing about rev ends is that they are like a Charlie Kelly wild card of that, the Chile, Charlie Kelly, wildcard of motels. And sometimes they are so, so nice. I stayed in one in Louisville that had just been redone and it was luxurious and I’ve stayed in ones in south Austin where. One to just sleep on top of the sheets, but the scariest place I’ve ever stayed.

[00:43:11] I’m pretty sure I told the story about the Econo lodge in Memphis above that was just like the top four levels of a parking structure. That was a scary, I thought I was going to die that night.

[00:43:23] Andrew: The only time I’ve seen a red roof Inn was in San Demas and the LA area and the bathtub was stained like a rusty red and I there, but it’s not like the fixture was rusted.

[00:43:37] Which can only mean one thing. Someone died in that bathtub

[00:43:45] Emily: and every hotel on the planet. Like you got it.

[00:43:49] Andrew: No one dies a bloody death and uh, okay. That’s actually not necessarily true. People do die. Bloody baths and bathtubs by

[00:43:55] Emily: accident. Well, next topic laxed,

[00:43:59] Andrew: we talked true crime last week. I can mention that.

[00:44:03] Yeah, we talked about it briefly. And then I had a nightmare. I can mention that ever

[00:44:07] so

[00:44:07] Emily: briefly. I’m sorry. That mentioned true crime at 9 45 in the morning gives you a nightmare. I buddy,

[00:44:23] Andrew: that’s a theme song from a true crime show.

[00:44:27] Emily: The true crime show, which is,

[00:44:32] Andrew: I don’t want to know. Can’t talk about it. I feel like we ended the episode episode topic this

[00:44:38] Emily: week.

[00:44:42] Yes. It’s playing a songs outside of your genre, your comfort, John rhe. Like we all have that comfort genre.

[00:44:49] Andrew: Yeah, that’s right. They’re going to teach me how to do chicken picking, right?

[00:44:53] Emily: No, you don’t want, you don’t want that, man. I’m going to tell you right now, dude, you don’t want that. You’re going to be in, you’re going to be embarrassed.

[00:45:02] So embarrassed. If I did this on it, I thought you said that you didn’t want to do this actively because you were sh uh, rusty speaking,

[00:45:11] Andrew: it’s embarrassing.

[00:45:13] Emily: Yeah. So do you really want to do that because no, I just want to

[00:45:18] Andrew: hold a guitar and look

[00:45:19] Emily: cool. Let you see. I think that was the truth and not wanting to learn was the joke.

[00:45:26] Yeah,

[00:45:27] Andrew: don’t we all just want to hold a guitar and look cool.

[00:45:30] Emily: That’s right. My husband is always the one who carries my guitar into videos. Plays

[00:45:48] Andrew: is much better guitar player than. I’m okay.

[00:45:51] Emily: Well, you know, I play a lot more. That’s fair. I

[00:45:53] Andrew: don’t

[00:45:54] Emily: have a problem playing longer, but, um, All right. So like the thing is like everyone has those genres that they feel really comfortable. And maybe as punk, maybe it’s just like classic kind of rock. Maybe it’s metal, maybe it’s country, but you should.

[00:46:10] I feel like it would be it behooves everybody, every guitarist to dig into genres that are maybe interesting to them. And even if you learn how to do that kind of stuff badly, if it’s something that you can then translate kind of back into your memory. Uh, like as a game of telephone, sometimes it can make some really interesting things like, um, are you familiar with hybrid picking at all?

[00:46:32] Andrew I’ve

[00:46:33] Andrew: heard the term. I actually don’t know. That’s okay.

[00:46:37] Emily: That’s okay. That’s okay. So you take a guitar pick and you hold it between your thumb and your index finger and down strokes or with the pic, but you free up your middle finger and your ring finger and every upstroke is going to be those. So, um, that’s actually anxiously, I use in Sunday crush a lot, which is funny.

[00:46:56] Cause Sunday crush is not a country band, so, uh, It’s like a plucky kind of sound so on. Good boy.

[00:47:12] The main room.

[00:47:17] So I applied instead of strumming those two notes. Cause I’m playing two notes at a time.

[00:47:28] Yeah. It’s called hybrid picking. And it’s called pinching when you do two at the same time. Yeah.

[00:47:36] And I’m not going to get into any Rick licks with you, but I’m a big thing. And country music just loves major chords. So, uh, like that riff, I was playing,

[00:47:49] it’s just walking down a major scale. So I go up to the D string with my middle finger slide up to the string, uh, ninth fret. Downstroke. And then on the B string eighth, Fred, I plucked up

[00:48:13] and do

[00:48:13] the

[00:48:14] Emily: slide.

[00:48:18] And then the thing about chicken pickin is a pop, like a muted strings, usually on the downstroke for the things that I’ve been playing. So.

[00:48:37] And then on the, uh, the G string, you just do a walk down,

[00:48:47] but you’re doing the clicking on that down string on the downstroke, on the D string every time. So you.

[00:49:09] Oh, I’m sorry, the first, no, you hit on the G string is in the 10th fret. Okay.

[00:49:20] The

[00:49:20] Andrew: first on the, on the G strains on 10th.

[00:49:26] Emily: Uh,

[00:49:31] so then after you pluck that, that’s what you got, right? That’s what you got down. Pat. I can hear it. It’s a muting. It was not a Palm muting on the right hand. You’re meeting with the picking hand.

[00:49:50] And that’s that clucky chicken sound, right? Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. So I do that in Sunday crush. We were jamming and genocides flying on the top two strings. I’m like,

[00:50:08] like

[00:50:13] I heard in my head that just that’s very country well done.

[00:50:21] So being able to incorporate that kind of country lick into a non-country genre, I think evokes something that makes it more sonically. Interesting. Right? Yeah. Yeah. And then like the thing about chicken picking is, is often very fast.

[00:50:57] that was sloppy as hell, but again, to margarita isn’t me. Um, I think that was okay. And it was okay for two Margarita’s Andrew’s finished his whiskey, so that was pretty okay. For a whiskey in a death star. But, um, another thing that I’ve really should get back on the mic, Emily, in

[00:51:17] Andrew: fairness to me, I did pour a second one.

[00:51:19] I don’t know if he’s noticed I’m stopping now. I will go back to hydrating like a normal person for the rest of the night. Cause I have four tomorrow.

[00:51:29] Emily: You don’t. I do. Yeah, I do. Well. Um, yeah, so I’ve also, she shreds, uh, this week has been promoting, um, sort of, uh, uh, a lesson with Melanie Faye that excellent R and B guitar set in Nashville.

[00:51:46] Uh, so she did something with a pickup guitar, uh, classes, like an RNB course. And, uh, so she shreds has like the one part of that course up and available for free. So if you haven’t checked that out, please do it’s really cool. Um, and she just kind of walks through this R and B chord progression with an example of saying that she did with a lot of really beautiful flourishes.

[00:52:10] And I it’s really gotten my creativity. Well, it’s nice. Like, I know I’ve been really busy, but I found a little bit of time in these past couple of weeks to pick up some, some country legs because it’s, it’s a genre. I really like, and I think Sunday crush is going to do more kind of country inspired stuff, but like that Melanie fake horse, I’m like, that’s not, so I’ve never played like an R and B style guitar after outside of learning.

[00:52:35] A couple of prints songs. And most of the prints kind of songs I learned are either very heavily in the rock genre or the function Aras. Um, so that has been just really, um, illuminating and really fun. So I like, I, it’s not, I don’t listen to a ton of RNB, you know, I really appreciate it, but it’s not the kind of job.

[00:52:54] It’s not the kind of thing. As frequently seek out as other things like I’m a really big fan of indie rock and full crock, like folk indie. Like my favorite record that came out this year was a Katy Kirby record. Um, cool, dry place, which is, I think it’s just a beautiful, beautiful record. Um, it’s I think it’s important.

[00:53:15] I think it’s, if you’re not doing that as a musician, if you’re not trying to learn things outside of your wheelhouse, because that’s also outside of your comfort zone. You’re really holding yourself back and you’re really only hurting your own progress.

[00:53:28] Andrew: What are your thoughts on a slap on guitar?

[00:53:32] Emily: I think it’s really cool.

[00:53:33] Prince used to do this thing where he would hold his guitar guitar pick between his index and middle finger. And he’d pick with that and he’d do kind of like the slap bass thing with his,

[00:53:54] who does that? Where’d you live?

[00:53:58] Andrew: Made it up? No, no, no.

[00:53:59] Emily: That’s cool though. Uh, the Rick’s base six and, uh, they were playing it at practice and play. It’s taking

[00:54:08] Andrew: so much. Self-control not to order the CME exclusive chill pink

[00:54:13] Emily: dude. I know Andrew just bit into his,

[00:54:20] Andrew: I didn’t think that I could actually fit my mouth around that.

[00:54:23] I’m

[00:54:23] Emily: actually learning. Oh, you learned more, especially about your guitars,

[00:54:30] Andrew: you know, your mouth. That’s an important thing. Oh

[00:54:34] Emily: dude,

[00:54:37] I’m going to hold back on the joke I was going to make. Um, yeah, that’s kind of what I wanted to talk about. I feel like we talked, we had some good to chat banter and stuff had a lot of fizzy water, so I’m trying to not burp into the microphone. You’re welcome listeners. You’re welcome.

[00:54:55] Andrew: I was to try and fake bird, but I can’t do that actually.

[00:54:59] Emily: Um, yeah. Anything you want to close out on?

[00:55:05] Andrew: Uh, well, for starters, I’m probably going to have to watch through this episode again, I’m going to give that chicken picking, elect chicken picking, lik another go. I’m sorry. Mixed up my words. Yeah.

[00:55:17] Emily: And it’s just like the, just the hybrid picking itself. It takes practice.

[00:55:21] But like, I think after like, I think maybe 30 minutes, I was just doing it a lot. Um, it became a lot, it became more natural, like, like anything, but I, I was surprised at how quickly, uh, I was able to pick up the hybrid picking, cause it seemed like I’m used to playing with my fingers or a pic and playing with bows.

[00:55:40] It’s not something I had done before.

[00:55:46] Andrew: I think the other contribution that I’d like to make is arpeggiation is something that I learned a bit in playing some metal riffs. And I’ve just bringing back that back into like some more, not as intense, um,

[00:56:05] Emily: something like

[00:56:05] Andrew: that

[00:56:05] Emily: is just

[00:56:08] Andrew: slowing it that way down, adding some effects, super soothing, just outlining chords. That way is just. I think it’s really nice, but that’s not where

[00:56:17] Emily: I originally learned that from, because an under done, because people want to do to offset. I think people just want to show off and show a technical skills they have, but not realizing that like it’s still, the building blocks are all still.

[00:56:31] Usually things you learned pretty early on. And sometimes going back to more basics is really important. Um, like bass being a bass player, playing like octaves, for example, is a lot more effective than people give it credit for same with guitar for Okta’s. Um, but like most country stuff is just a combination of major and minor penalty.

[00:56:52] And major scales and, uh, and it still is very cool. Very engaging, really gets a reaction from people. And it’s mostly, I won’t say it’s mostly, but like for country pick and chicken picking, largely it’s it’s, you know, speed and tastefulness and if you, if you can’t play it slow, you can’t play it fast. So just start slow and build your way up and know that you’re going to get better because there’s, you can only get better.

[00:57:18] You cannot get worse. That is not a thing.

[00:57:21] Andrew: I took another stab at trying slide again this week, I’m really bad at slide. I was trying to learn the, uh, I got about halfway through the solo for learning to fly by Tom petty, uh, which isn’t that hard as far as sly goes.

[00:57:40] Emily: It wasn’t really hard for me,

[00:57:43] Andrew: but it’s fun.

[00:57:45] It’s fun to play around with that kind of stuff and get the juices flowing. I’m like this isn’t applicable to the things I would normally want to try and play, but I could see having some fun with it.

[00:57:55] Emily: Yeah. Yeah. It’s like when I learned, when I got that, you bet young. Why, why 10 and for a few weeks, and I learned that Yvette young riff and I’m like, I’m not, I have never.

[00:58:06] Done, something like that, like ever. And it was really, really cool and fun. And so I know I’ve already

[00:58:13] Andrew: forgotten it. Have you seen that either? Young’s been like low key friends with will Smith and it’s super cool. Yeah. Yeah. Like will Smith just posted a video with Yvette young signature? Nice playing a riff I’m like, oh, snap.

[00:58:32] Emily: Yeah. Willow. Willow’s certainly a talent that stands out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Well, um, I think that’s a good place to end it as fan girling about Willis Smith. Andrew’s obviously got somewhere to be, and I understand, I also saw that in,

[00:58:46] Andrew: I’ve got more of the issue of it’s 79.5 degrees in here. So it’s gone up almost 10 degrees since we started recording.

[00:58:52] Like,

[00:58:54] Emily: well, thanks for watching.

[00:58:56] Andrew: Stick around five more minutes to see Andrew dial the show.

[00:59:00] Emily: Thanks for listening. And thanks for understanding until next time. My name is Emily

[00:59:03] Andrew: and thank you for watching. My name is Andrew

[00:59:06] Emily: goodbye, buddy.