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Get Offset Episode 141: Fake Private Planes and Faker Country Stars

Get Offset Episode 141: Fake Private Planes and Faker Country Stars

This week, Emily and Andrew chat about the heat, dads, SNAMM, earbuds, fake country stars, and how Emily got Nashville famous.

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Episode Transcript

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[00:00:00] Emily: you can’t man. I have to reapply it every week and it doesn’t even matter. Welcome to the, get off set podcast. My name is Emily.

[00:00:19] Andrew: My name is Andrew.

[00:00:24] Emily: What is up? What is up? It is, uh, it’s 8:30 PM in Seattle and it is 80 degrees. I’ll be it only 77 in my

[00:00:35] Andrew: room. I’ve got 72 in here, so I’m doing fine by the ACU.

[00:00:39] And it’s also been running on full blast for let’s see here. I could grab my, a full wall. Mind-reading 72.7 right now with 47% humidity. Um, yeah, my, my only Pete’s out of 73.

[00:00:54] Emily: I don’t have actual AC here. So I’ve just had to keep the, um, screen door open. I have a little, a standing like fan type dealio. Um, but I’m on the bottom floor of a three, three stories.

[00:01:06] So it’s really not bad. It’s like a, essentially a basement. So the only drag is I can’t the only drag cause I can’t get a cross breeze going like you can’t on every other floor of the house. Sure.

[00:01:19] Andrew: I’ve got 83 in my neighborhood right now that warm run the

[00:01:21] Emily: set of things. I’m just going by what my little Cortana on the little corner of my computer is telling me, which I don’t know how to turn that off.

[00:01:29] I don’t really care about it very much. It’s new and does update it doesn’t hurt. I like it. Yeah. You drink anything, buddy?

[00:01:42] Andrew: Sit on here. This is a,

[00:01:44] Emily: your son glitter peach IPA

[00:01:48] Andrew: from silver city brewery coming at, you live from the Bremerton. Oh, really? So yeah, they do. They’ve they’ve done this last two or three summers in a row and every summer, as soon as I see at the shelf, I’m like, yep. It’s just, it’s fruity. It’s hoppy. It’s just, it’s so refreshing.

[00:02:07] Emily: Yeah. I respect that. I’m drinking. I’m I’m I’m repping San Diego are fellows at six, a cycle home. And also my friend Ryan at Seymour Duncan. Uh, Cutwater margarita. Yes. I’m a fan of these with my daddy issues. It’s the band daddy issues. People koozie. Yeah. They’re a Nashville punk band. Speaking of Nashville, you wanna hear my what today?

[00:02:32] Andrew: Uh, I’m going to guess that you’re going to Nashville.

[00:02:35] Emily: I’m going to Nashville. I’m going to a summer Nam. I booked my flights this weekend, thankfully. So I booked some flights for 2020 before COVID and Alaska just gave a crap. And I thought that credit expired, but I called just to check and make sure. And they’re like, oh yeah, no, that was, that was extended for like another year.

[00:02:56] Just like book it before February 20, 22 before flights in like July 20, 22 or something. And, uh, yeah, so I’m going to Nashville. Nice. Yeah. Uh, for summer Nam specifically, I’ll be in town, um, getting in town Wednesday night, leaving Monday night. I’m going to spend the weekend with my friend, Michelle of Michelle Sullivan and the all night boys.

[00:03:21] I’m an all night boy. Um, but that’s a song. If you listen on the just normal podcast, the song that plays at the end of the episode, that’s a, uh, a song I recorded with Michelle Caldwell pink room. Yeah. We recorded that at John Pride’s old city. Oh, rest in peace, John Prine. And, uh, it was a really fun, I think I did that at summer Nam, uh, last summer, 2019.

[00:03:46] Yeah. We’ve

[00:03:47] Andrew: been two

[00:03:47] Emily: years. Yeah. Woo.

[00:03:50] Andrew: Does that feel like two years?

[00:03:53] Emily: No, it doesn’t. And Michelle’s also the person who owned the dog named cowboy that ate my Stetson rest in peace cowboy. So I can, I feel, I feel a little bit more confident bringing a hat to Nashville this time.

[00:04:08] Andrew: Very cool. Very cool. Traveling is fine. It’s nice to travel again.

[00:04:12] Emily: It is speaking of that, um, I know you traveled the Rick and I are going, uh, taking a little trip. This, this, um, the weekend before the strops up to port Townsend, we’re going to see James from the guitar. We’re actually gonna stay with James from the guitar.

[00:04:26] He was on an episode. Yeah, we’re gonna, we’re gonna see him. We’re spending one night, a fancy pants hotel, the palace hotel, and we ended up just happenstance booking a room called Ms. Kitty. I know I did not expect it. It’s a very pink room and it’s called Ms. Kitty and it has a really nice water view. So, um, I’m really excited about that Saturday night.

[00:04:51] We’re going to hang with my friend Mimi. Um, she’s got a farm up there. She, uh, got, I forget. I think her, she was in a band opened for bikini kill and Paris wants or something like that. I don’t know. She’s a bad-ass I met her at a hold study show a guy in the front row fainted, and I turned around and I just feel medic medic health.

[00:05:13] And she just had some random guy her drink and she’s like, we’re all just like, just through like re, like brings the guy basically back to life. And she’s like, I thought he was going to die. And then she was so mad. She found it. It wasn’t like a, like a medical emergency for any other reason. Other than he took too many edibles.

[00:05:34] No. Oh my God, that poor guy, like he and his girl, like they got the front row and then he just has a, he just has too many edibles.

[00:05:48] Andrew: It could have been one of those things where it’s like, oh, it’s like only 10 milligrams, but it’s like per serving size. And there’s 10 serving sizes of the unit.

[00:05:55] Emily: I don’t know.

[00:05:55] Uh, you know, she’s the one who, who, like he had met, like his, his partner had said he, that he took some edibles. So I don’t know, but I’ve definitely heard of that happening in Seattle. I feel like if you buy them in Seattle, they’re more likely, I, I haven’t seen anything. That’s like an edible. That’s more than, that’s not divided into little 10 milligram servings, but that just tells you what I’m buying.

[00:06:17] Sure.

[00:06:18] Andrew: No, I was talking to talking to a friend the other day. They’re telling me about this time there they’re hanging out at a friend’s place and they bright and edible for themselves. And they’re like, oh, 10 milligrams. I can do this will be a good time. And didn’t realize that there’s 12 serving sizes.

[00:06:35] And they just, there was a soda, it was a soda. And so they did the whole thing and slept for 18 hours straight on their friend’s couch. Missed a day of work, all that.

[00:06:46] Emily: When they woke up though, What did they feel pretty good when they woke up? Cause I feel like 18 hours of just like would really do me some good.

[00:06:55] Andrew: It was one of those like 32nd anecdotes, like, oh yeah, this is I bro.

[00:07:01] Emily: A mutual friend of ours had that experience at Nam one. Yeah. I think out of brownie and didn’t realize it, the story. Yeah. And he just like ended up sleeping in the back of the car and while the rest of them were at like the earthquake or party or something, I forget the details.

[00:07:18] But

[00:07:19] Andrew: in LA it’s

[00:07:20] Emily: like, it’s a fun time. You got to read the package, friends, just read the package, like start with two and a half. If you’ve never had an edible five, if you’ve maybe had one or two in 10 of your experience, like that should be your max milligrams of the C you’re consuming at first, then you wait and then you make decisions.

[00:07:45] Yeah. Yeah, woo buddy.

[00:07:51] I’ve never been that high. Thank God. I get high. Like, I take an edible before bed, like an hour before bed, we watch like an, uh, a couple episodes of a comedy or like one like reality show trashy thing. Just kind of like give us like brain numbness before bed. And then I do my stretches that, and then I, I like, or a musical.

[00:08:17] Uh, and then I do, uh, my stretches and I tell you one of my favorite things in the world is to just be like this high and like do some yoga poses. Like it just makes the stretches feel better. It’s like, all I want to do when I’m high is just stretch every muscle in my body below if you’re the same way.

[00:08:37] Hm. Do you want to do the spiel about Patrion and iTunes?

[00:08:44] Andrew: Uh, yeah. Um, let’s see here. Let’s see if I can do the spiel. I haven’t, I actually don’t know what I’m just going to wing this cause I really don’t know what I’m doing now. Uh, all right. So Patrion support is on patriotic because we are there and, uh, we would like your money.

[00:09:00] That would be great. Um, is that in that game

[00:09:04] Emily: and really wants to do that metal wiggles color. So please help us get to our most legal,

[00:09:10] Andrew: I was trying to sabotage it, but.

[00:09:14] Emily: Patrion.com/get offset link in the video description or show

[00:09:18] Andrew: knows. Yup. Uh, yeah. I w I feel like we set that goal before I moved to this place, which would have been no,

[00:09:25] Emily: no, no, no, it was last summer.

[00:09:27] It was last summer. Okay. Because it was after it was after we first got our first $25 a month Patriot. And that was no, when I wrote the song old growth for Noah as part of that tier I’ve since increased that tier to 50. So if you, uh, pledged 50 bucks for Patrion and the second month I will write you a song.

[00:09:46] Andrew: Nice. And what’s the, so what’s the tier for me to, um, write a wiggle song,

[00:09:52] Emily: but yeah, uh, we, we had $150 a month total. So if you, if you, if you do the 25 or $50 tier, I am pretty sure you’ll get us there. Cause I think we’re at one 30 a month. So we either need four more, $5 donors. And that gets in each $5 donor gets access to the super secret, uh, discord.

[00:10:12] Two $10 donors, $10 a month. Get you a one piece of swag from our web store of your choice, a $25 donor. I forget if there’s a special thing associated with that these days.

[00:10:25] Andrew: Hm. I like that, but that’s also, that’s really soon. I think I need to start. I think I need to pick a wiggle song and maybe start drafting it out and, uh, tracking the drums for

[00:10:36] Emily: that.

[00:10:36] I don’t know any wiggles songs. So you’re this is, this is all you don’t

[00:10:39] Andrew: have potato.

[00:10:42] Emily: Nope. Okay. I got to get Steve monetized.

[00:10:49] Andrew: I didn’t say an Australian accent. Uh, so I think it will get flagged. I think we’re fine there. Okay.

[00:10:54] Emily: Can I show you one more? What’s new before we keep going. That’s fine. And Alyssa makes these at the Fremont market in Seattle. I think she’s going to launch her US-based web store soon, but it’s a beautiful painted pot.

[00:11:08] And then she’s throwing the canvas for free because I was her first us customer.

[00:11:13] Andrew: Well, that’s very nice. Yeah. Cactus do tastes good. Um,

[00:11:19] Emily: yeah, it does actually cactus tacos.

[00:11:22] Andrew: I do like cactus, cactus jam. Hm Hmm.

[00:11:26] Emily: That sounds good. Yeah. Anything else you want to promote this like comment, subscribe on YouTube,

[00:11:33] Andrew: like comment, subscribe on YouTube, but you only really see me on the podcast, but you do see Emily also doing all the demos and, uh, I recommend subscribe.

[00:11:41] It’s good stuff.

[00:11:43] Emily: My dad actually watched my whole, he says he watched my video about, um, did singles kill albums. And I talked to him about mother’s day and I said, you washed all like 40 minutes of that. I caught about 30 seconds. Every two minutes.

[00:12:01] Andrew: Well, Hey, it’s a good, good, uh, good father for father’s day weekend, right?

[00:12:07] Emily: Yeah. Can I give a second to shadow my dad for driving and me guitar lessons, driving my ass to guitar lessons for so long. Yeah. Yeah, because I talked about my mom, like teaching me my first guitar course giving me my first guitar. My dad’s the one who drove my ass to guitar lessons all the time. For like years, he dragged me to guitar lessons and then we’d stop at Quiznos after it was always really fun.

[00:12:30] My

[00:12:31] Andrew: dad didn’t drive me to guitar or to drum lessons. He, I, because drum lessons was the neighbor two doors down. He talked to the neighbor for me when I was in sixth grade and said, Hey, we hear you playing every day. When you get off work at about five o’clock,

[00:12:45] Emily: did he pay for those lessons to

[00:12:48] Andrew: the neighbor?

[00:12:48] Did.

[00:12:50] Emily: For years, weekly

[00:12:53] Andrew: lessons for years. Oh, he was having a blast and he had a second kid set up. So he set up the two kids facing each other. And that was just how we did lessons. That’s really cool. Instead of one left-handed he’s like not amazing left-handed but he would keep up with me. He was a sixth grade kid that you, nothing, we just play like mirror to each other.

[00:13:15] It was great. That’s actually

[00:13:16] Emily: a really good equalizer and kids like really young kids, especially it’s easier for them to just directly mirror than to like transcribe it in there. Exactly.

[00:13:25] Andrew: Yep. Nice. So shout out to my dad for doing that. And then when I got to high school, he taught me my first couple of Nirvana songs that guitar and let me his guitar and then ended up just giving you his concern.

[00:13:37] I’ve got it. Isn’t a Yamaha

[00:13:39] Emily: acoustic Nirvana songs. Sure. Come as you are and smells like teen spirit and all apologies. Those are my guests. Uh, no smells like teen spirit drop the,

[00:13:50] Andrew: and in boiler room.

[00:13:53] Emily: And did you come as you are now? Do you know it now though? I do. Yeah. That’s the one that I’m like, I’m pretty sure, like I have the muscle memory for that though.

[00:14:03] Yep.

[00:14:10] Um,

[00:14:14] I don’t think

[00:14:14] Andrew: I’ve ever

[00:14:15] Emily: learned that one. It’s really fun to play. To be honest, I recommend it. I’m not even a big Nirvana fan. You should also learn celebrity skin on guitar gets very fun.

[00:14:27] Andrew: I used to know more Nirvana songs and I’m trying to think off the top of my head, like what I know. I, I think I used to be able to play school just fine.

[00:14:36] Cause that was just like absolute havoc, uh, bleach that’s unbleached. Yeah.

[00:14:43] Emily: And then Jason, that Jason ever men funded, right.

[00:14:46] Andrew: Uh, and then, uh, my favorite Nirvana song period is about a girl and that’s just

[00:14:53] Emily: a cool, also on bleach. Yep. What was the cover on that song that got, that got them a lot of local press.

[00:15:00] Hmm. No cover on that

[00:15:03] Andrew: record. The cover on the record was I just, uh, like the,

[00:15:07] Emily: not the visual cover because the cover, the visual cover is Jason Everman in baseball,

[00:15:11] Andrew: but um,

[00:15:20] Emily: love buzz. Oh yeah. Yeah. Decided to like do a little circle and attract love buzz and you feel

[00:15:33] Andrew: So I knew shout out to my dad. My, I actually get to see my dad. Uh, he will be in town with this record, uh, when the se episode drops. He lands here a couple of days. I haven’t seen him in two and a half years.

[00:15:48] Emily: That makes me so sad to think about it, man,

[00:15:50] Andrew: very long time. And I’m very

[00:15:53] Emily: excited to see each other

[00:15:54] Andrew: finally.

[00:15:55] Yeah, no, it’ll be good to see him. And we’ll say, we’re like, we’re gonna to play this out. And so I was talking to her last night and I’m looking at the weather and like, whether it’s going to be gorgeous, but it’s going to be hot. And I’m like, oh,

[00:16:07] Emily: for us.

[00:16:08] Andrew: And I’m looking like, honey, this is going to be so hot out.

[00:16:11] Like, how are we going to deal with this? And I just started rattling off like the numbers, like, oh right. It’s going to be like 87, 80, 82, 70,

[00:16:18] Emily: 87, 87 is legitimately hot.

[00:16:21] Andrew: Yeah. And it’s like really off these numbers. It’s used stairs that we can get to like this concerned look. And then she goes, oh, you’re talking about the weather.

[00:16:29] I thought you were reading off the obits for summer.

[00:16:42] Emily: actually not a bad way to apartment hunt.

[00:16:45] Andrew: I mean, uh, no, it’s her, her, her, before her grandparents passed her grandma would sit down with the Sunday paper and that’s how she would read the obits. And she would just start reading off the numbers because her grandma passed when she was like 91, 92. And so at that point you just kinda read through like, oh, I didn’t even realize they passed I’m friends with them.

[00:17:05] Kind of. It’s just, I remember like sitting down Sunday morning at the table with her grandma as well, like hearing her do that SU it feels so strange as a younger person, like really morbid, but I could also see, I take a step back and like, okay. Like that makes sense. That’s not as weird as it sounds.

[00:17:20] It’s not, but just the look on her face when I was reading off those numbers, it was just like pure. Oh,

[00:17:27] Emily: yeah, she had just took her back to a very visceral place. Um, June, June teens would have been my grandmother’s, uh, 82nd birthday. No. Wow. No love affair, Bonnie Fe. Yeah. She listened to this podcast every week.

[00:17:45] Andrew: My, my grandfather has never listened to his podcast and he’s 81.

[00:17:49] Emily: Well, body was just, the Bonnie was just, uh, you know, she was, she was sharp, sharp till the end. Just like, um, yeah, just like, just like 1, 1, 1 to be I think. Yeah.

[00:18:01] Andrew: Yeah. That’s definitely a way to

[00:18:03] Emily: do it. She doesn’t, she’s like, I don’t know what’s happening, Emily, but I love you.

[00:18:09] Andrew: No, I went to a wedding this last weekend. I guess that’s something else that’s do with me. Yeah. So wedding reception, um, I guess this tactic. So the wedding happened in California like a month ago and they had like another reception up here for all their friends. Uh, so shoot. Got to see a lot of people. I haven’t seen this literally since, before.

[00:18:29] Yep. Yeah. Like it was outdoors. I like bend, just like walk her out. That amass was a straight, like, I hadn’t seen these people like, like, should it be like, it was so weird. Um, but that was good. They had made like, we’re thinking pizza too. Um,

[00:18:45] Emily: nice. Oh, I’m excited for, I’ve heard port towns and has like stupid, good pizza.

[00:18:53] Andrew: That would be yet another good reason for me to go out there sometime I need to, I need to go out. See James.

[00:18:58] Emily: Yeah. I was going to bug him. Like I just kind of fell behind on a bunch of stuff. I got a bunch of freelance projects, most of which are over, but I was going to propose, like, go up to what the guitar store is now.

[00:19:09] And like just demos, kind of like Ryan Birch road, case series. Now I just want to go and hang, you know, it was only like it’s a two and a half hours. If you take the ferry and time it outright. So it’s nearly not that bad. Um, But I might, I might take my camera just to do some tests, like field recording kind of stuff for, for, for summer Nam.

[00:19:37] I think I will, because you know, why not? We’re going to be there. We’re going to be at a very small town for an extended period of time. So I feel like that’s a great opportunity to just like, kinda goof off, like make, do some things that can be like complete throw away mistakes, because that’s the thing I struggle with.

[00:19:57] Like, um, this is actually the test for my new lighting situation. I talked about the wall-mounted lights, Rick put one of ’em up this weekend. Uh, we just have to clear some space out for the second, but it’s up here and it’s, it’s actually really, really great to have that floor space back, like the nominal.

[00:20:17] Um, but for Nam, like summer Nam, it’s like last time I was there, it was kind of get a feeler. Um, I, I have gotten a new field recorder from zoom. It’s a zoom H six. I’m really excited about that coming in. Um, so I can plug multiple microphones into it. I’m not sure if I’ll use the hot shoe on. I think, I think I’ll probably hold the zoom, like, uh, the zoom and like clip it and actually use like microphones.

[00:20:47] Shouldn’t use the hot shoe for, um, my lighting situation for interviews and stuff. Uh, but I don’t know. I got, I know that Ryan Burke had quite an interesting setup with, um, with, uh, uh, HX stomp. I think I might just do kind of that vibe, but just with the Iridium. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, so I’ll figure it out.

[00:21:14] I’m also, also probably talked to Garrett, uh, Karen and grant. And Nashville. Um, I think most of the people I know who are doing stuff are doing with the boutique pedal, um, booths. Sure. So I know Liz, Lance Giles’ from dog man device is going to be there. He and I have been chatting, uh, really excited to meet Lance in person.

[00:21:41] Totally. Yeah. And he’s the newest, cool, cool things. And he had a big sale recently and I just, uh, yeah, it was really excited, excited to see something sell out for him.

[00:21:55] Andrew: Yeah, no, that’s super cool. Yeah. Make me wish I was going, like I already wish I was going. It’s just one of those looking at the calendar for the summer realizing I can’t just not work.

[00:22:07] Emily: I’ve taken every hour of vacation. I will be taking every hour vacation I have this year, all four weeks.

[00:22:16] Andrew: Um,

[00:22:18] Emily: We’ll do winter Nam. I think we should both do winter.

[00:22:21] Andrew: Yeah. Once your name should be totally doable.

[00:22:24] Emily: Yeah. It, it really should be. The both of us will like train each other up and take turns on the camera and stuff. I think that would be a lot of fun. Yeah. I

[00:22:31] Andrew: think that could be super, super cool.

[00:22:34] Emily: Maybe, maybe you could, maybe you can leave the kiddo with the grandparents and we could take her to the houses.

[00:22:40] Andrew: We should do a spouse a episode

[00:22:42] Emily: soon. I know Rick, Rick will take some convincing, but he’ll do it.

[00:22:47] Andrew: I think Alyssa is the same way. It’ll take some convincing, but once, once we get there, I think it’s doable. I think

[00:22:52] Emily: I wish I wish I tried harder to talk my mom into doing, doing an episode. I think that would have been really fun, but she’ll be back up here, uh, late July.

[00:23:03] So maybe I can talk her into doing another thing. Also

[00:23:06] Andrew: have to get a headphone amp, cause I’ve only got one headphone output on this interface.

[00:23:13] Emily: Um, I might have a really.

[00:23:16] Andrew: I might have a really terrible Derringer.

[00:23:18] Emily: Once we on somewhere, you just get a splitter, they’re like $3. Right?

[00:23:22] Andrew: That’s fun. I bet better the other, I don’t know.

[00:23:24] Emily: Uh, but you know, there’s it, every day I take zoom calls and there are people on the zoom calls or just using their computer computer out every single day and 80% of the time. It’s not a problem, but, um, yeah. Do you not, have you have monitor out on the back of that? I focus right to iTunes or

[00:23:48] Andrew: monitor out.

[00:23:48] Yeah,

[00:23:50] Emily: you can do that. As I had phone out with him quarter-inch country, we’ll see, uh, or you get a monitor like the, I have the JBL Bluetooth monitors, but I don’t use the Bluetooth part on them. Or maybe you could use a Bluetooth headphone.

[00:24:10] Andrew: Oh, you know, I got a couple of ideas, so we’ll all sort, something out.

[00:24:13] Emily: That’s kind of the cool thing about tech now. Days is like, there are lots of ways to like, um, MacGyver, what’s your wanting to do what you want to do. Totally. Yeah. Oh, but when you said headphone out, I thought you said headphone amp, but I was thinking, why do you need that?

[00:24:27] I had headphone amp, but I would happily loan you the book form devices. White whale. Yeah.

[00:24:35] Andrew: I was thinking more like distribution amplifier, but like a regular old headphones.

[00:24:41] Emily: Now I love, I really have been having a little fun, but the white whale is stupid, but I’ve been having so much fun with it, uh, with the OB any split meld work, though.

[00:24:49] If, if, if we’re scam tourists,

[00:24:54] I’m just showing off all the things that I’ve been given. And haven’t yet done that

[00:24:59] Andrew: maybe. Yeah. We’ll figure something out and not to worry about it. They go down. Um, I think I’ve got a small human knocking them.

[00:25:10] Emily: Yes, absolutely. This week’s episode of the good offset podcast is sponsored by roots heck effects based out of Nashville, Tennessee, where I will be in July Rotech effects is most well known for their eight afraid cancer fight and fuss. And their three month 14, both of those are fuzzes. The three-mile 14 is especially exciting.

[00:25:32] It is three Russian big muffs in one with a wide range of extremely easy to use tone controls. You won’t need to do a ton of tweaking on any of these things. It is actually shockingly, easy to use, and I’m super versatile and I’m a huge fan. Uh, you can use the code, get offset at checkout to, uh, get free domestic shipping in the U S.

[00:26:00] Or a discount on international shipping. I also would implore you to check out the cancer-fighting funds. It comes as both preassembled and as a build your own situation, took me just a couple hours to do the build your own situation. Jessie had a great video on YouTube explaining everything very clearly.

[00:26:19] I had a little mishap when I was building mine. That was entirely my fault cause I was feeling a little rushed, uh, cause I was doing it during my lunch break and had to get back to work, but I figured it out. Got it working. It sounds really cool. And for every kid you buy, Jessie can donate a kit to the yap rock camp of middle Tennessee, teaching kids, how to solder their own guitar pedals, which I think is a fantastic skill.

[00:26:43] Uh, kids can learn. Um, especially as a young girl, I wasn’t socialized to give a shit about electronics, um, or how to make them thankfully, my dad. And my grandfather both wanted to raise a young girl, knew her way around like a hammer. Yeah, shit. But I never learned how to solder. Um, even though I did learn a lot of other great things.

[00:27:05] So it was really, I think it’s really cool that kids in general are learning how to solder things to, to find full like Jesse. And if you buy this kit for like 80 bucks tops, I think I forget the exact cost. Um, you can, you can help out a kid and have a really cool fuzz that you, that you personally, as a human being feel good about it.

[00:27:27] The other day, as roots tech affects using the code, get offset for free domestic and discounted international shipping. Well, there you go. Yeah, that worked out well. Uh, I was premiering the episode that we did with the most in the dark. And there was a point where you can just kind of get up and walk away and I forgot, I forgot that you got up, you got up and walked away.

[00:27:49] And I kind of looked at Ryan and I said, Andrew is like, well, fuck all. Y’all I guess I was like, and I respect it. I know I got to, yeah, it’s a poop.

[00:28:08] Andrew: I have one of those never trust a fart moments. And I was like, oh no. Oh

[00:28:14] Emily: no, I’m not going to trust the fart. You didn’t trust the fart. Now that’s the second time in recent memory that that’s happened to you.

[00:28:21] Andrew: I there’s something about podcasting. It’s like the smell of coffee podcasting. I mean,

[00:28:26] Emily: I’ll tell you what, I’ll tell you what it was. It was the 10 o’clock hour. You’ve had your first coffee cup and a half of coffee. No. Yup. That’s why, that’s why, that’s why we’re trying to move away from recording in the mornings.

[00:28:42] Andrew: Every too

[00:28:43] Emily: much information for

[00:28:43] Andrew: everybody. Oh, it’s entirely too much information, but yeah, I mean, it was one of those, like if I don’t get up now,

[00:28:52] Emily: We’ve all been there. I’m not going to give it. I’m not going to get more details, but I will just say we all,

[00:28:57] Andrew: so very human moment for me. I am.

[00:29:00] Emily: It’s just the worst when you’re on a conference call or something and you have to go to the bathroom and you’re not sure if you can say, excuse me for a minute, I usually just message somebody and I’m like, I will be right back.

[00:29:12] So

[00:29:13] Andrew: that’s what these are for the wireless ones. Just Bluetooth headphones, you traffic camera

[00:29:19] Emily: and wow. Okay. So my computer is not Bluetooth on it. So unless I joined from my phone and use my Youi fits. Yeah. Which are really cool. Have I talked about these things, dude? They’re like amazing. I’ve I’ve done some marketing for Youi and I got these two, so I could write about them better.

[00:29:41] But like they, they are, um, they use light form technology, which is like, it’s not exactly a new technology, but it’s never been used in the earbuds before. Um, but when you get them, the whole like piece is this really soft, squishy plastic. You put them in, you kind of like apply some gentle pressure, making sure you have a good base seals playing a music track while it’s doing it.

[00:30:05] And then it, it activates these LEDs that kind of hardened the rubber, the photo polymer into place. And, um, it’s the most comfortable, they’re the most comfortable earbuds I’ve ever used in my life. I got, I bought my husband a pair. This guy is like, I hate your buds. I hate your buds. Why did you buy me?

[00:30:27] This puts them in. Does the thing just begrudgingly, he fucking loves them. I, this guy has really just thought earbuds weren’t for him, that like his ears were weird or whatever. And he loves her. Yes all the time. And they, I mean, it’s ultimate ears. So, you know, it sounds great because they make, I, I am for the moment, like the most famous musicians, like lady Gaga at the figuration, I’m watching as like someone who does some marketing stuff for ultimate ears.

[00:30:58] I was like,

[00:31:03] but, um, yeah, those ones, those ones are viral. And some of the guitar communities surprise me. They look perfect. They looked like they were part of like the ear cuffs she was wearing. Yeah. That’s great. And it’s actually, and, and just do my marketing thing again, like that’s part of something that they do is they do like completely custom ear pieces.

[00:31:24] Like anything you can get extras. So these are my extras. And then I have the, um, I bought these and then I have the, uh, purple. Glitter. Yeah. So no sponsor plays my boss.

[00:31:41] Andrew: I okay. I have questions one. How much are the UAE fits?

[00:31:46] Emily: Uh, well, full price. Gotcha. They’re $250 full price, but, um, they’re on there. I know right now they’re on sale.

[00:31:54] They’re on sale for part of the summer because I did the marketing for them. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I think they’re on sale. I don’t know. They just launched a big, a big campaign with Jaden Smith. So I think there’s some sort of sale involved in that, like, so like 75 bucks or something, but they’re, they’re like AirPods, but I think they’re less expensive than AirPods

[00:32:16] Andrew: air pals.

[00:32:16] Aren’t that much.

[00:32:18] Emily: Yeah. Are they’re like two 50? How much are they? Just the blue shoes, the ANC ones

[00:32:24] Andrew: I’d have to double check. I don’t know most of us trying to do that. Hey, I want to get some AirPods. Like, can I, can I get, I can’t I’m like why? Uh, but if that, that sounds like it. Overall form factor. And if it’s in the ballpark of the same amount, I’d be inclined to Blake.

[00:32:42] Hey, why don’t we get you something that’s going to sound better and fit better. So I’ll talk to her about it.

[00:32:50] Emily: Yeah. They’re, they’re extremely comfortable. Um, I actually, and they don’t fall out. I got, this sounds like a stupid commercial, but I’m just like there, listen, I went from like doing marketing for CPA insurance to doing marketing for something that’s actually cool.

[00:33:05] And um, like I box every day. I know it takes a lot of work to look this okay. Um, I box four to five times a week. They don’t fall out. Like I used to run and yeah, I used to run the normal corded ones and every like I would move forward and my, my finger would catch in the cord and they’d fall out. So then I switched to the ones with the wire around the ear.

[00:33:32] And those would catch on my pony, my ponytail, and they’d fall out. But you, it fits don’t fall out. It’s neat. It like, it actually works. It’s wild. I think the microphone on them, isn’t the best in the world. I will say that. But it’s serviceable for when you’re taking a call with your, your buds. Sure. It’s weird.

[00:33:53] How good the iPhone, even like the corded ones, how good the microphone generally sounds on them?

[00:34:00] Andrew: Yeah. I mean, they sound finding out for most TV interviews. I mean,

[00:34:03] Emily: yeah, it’s

[00:34:05] Andrew: weird. I mean, to be fair though, you also know that there’s a guy in the backyard, low pass, high pass compression, like

[00:34:13] Emily: that’s fair.

[00:34:14] And that’s something you don’t really think about a lot. And I I’m sure there’s some way I could like go in and like eat out. I’ll tell you more about the fence later, but I’m sure like in general, Before, before our call. I’m sure. There’s some way I could go in and like finagle things. Sure,

[00:34:29] Andrew: sure. One last thing on the topic of Bluetooth for your PC, they, you can totally buy a bully to the USB adapter.

[00:34:38] Emily: I have one I’ve just never installed it. What? Right.

[00:34:45] Andrew: I’m just judging you.

[00:34:48] Emily: Okay. Can I, can I just say I have these L uh, studio monitors that have low too. So if there’s ever anything, I need to Bluetooth from my phone so I can hear it out loud. I can do that. So sure. To be honest, 85% of my needs are met.

[00:35:08] And generally I like joining zoom calls with my phone because I think that the audio quality is better. Interesting. Well, I never glitch out. Yeah. I don’t want to sound like, what was that? What was that movie with the red head. And she was talking to the aliens.

[00:35:30] Yeah, no. Okay. Okay. And that patient adaption is a one word title

[00:35:47] movie with the lady translating for aliens arrival. Google result. First Google result for searching movie with a lady translating for aliens, a plus Google. There’s a great

[00:36:07] Andrew: news. This just in Google has better movie trivia than Andrew does.

[00:36:15] Emily: Did you watch smart guy growing up? No. There was an episode where smart guy, the, this, the, the premise was Taj was a child genius. Uh, that’s that’s uh, Maori is, and the younger brother of Tia and Tamera from sister, sister, he, his own show where he was a child genius. He was in high school to same grade level as his much older brother.

[00:36:42] And there was an episode of molding chess, where he was playing chess against the machine. The machine just kept winning and it’s practicing. And his older brother’s complete dimwitted best friend. Uh, I was like, I’ll play, you. I’ll help. You I’ll have to practice or whatever. And Todd was like, whatever.

[00:37:01] And, and the friend wins or is doing well. And the smart guy is like, Well it’s because you’re not doing anything with any strategy and that clicks in his brain. He’s like, if I just act with no strategy, the computer wouldn’t be able to predict what I’m doing and it will just explode. And that’s what happened.

[00:37:24] But then Watson on jeopardy beat Ken Jennings are our local hero. So I don’t know that strategy wouldn’t work for trivia, probably

[00:37:33] Andrew: trivia about a trivia show. There’s layers to this now,

[00:37:38] Emily: you know, Ken Jennings usually. Um, well I saw him at the hardware store in my neighborhood once. And it was about a star struck as I’ve ever been.

[00:37:49] Does he still

[00:37:50] Andrew: start like in public? Does he start every sentence with, what is, is that just

[00:37:55] Emily: listen, I walked in the door, turned around to my husband and when I turned around and. Bought my poly finish for the guitar. I was like, sorry, like big, um, Bobby bear junior energy. There. That’s a different story for a different

[00:38:16] Andrew: time, for sure.

[00:38:17] For sure. For sure. All right. So we’ve got a topic today.

[00:38:20] Emily: We do. And Andrew blissfully reminded me this topic. I have the tweets pulled up. Now you want to give us this? Well, I had no excuse. I’ve been thinking about it all day. I’ve been thinking about it all day, just in times when it come, when it’s down to the wire, you fumble it like Haim.

[00:38:39] Andrew: That, that, I mean, that’s fair. It’s understandable, but I will still choose to mock you for it anyways. Uh, so the synopsis here is I’m going to break this down into like some very high level terms, and then we’ll let you drill it down bit. Uh, person a says.

[00:38:58] Emily: That’s fine. No,

[00:38:59] Andrew: we’ll, we’ll get there. I I’m really top level down.

[00:39:02] Cause it’s a classic. I think

[00:39:05] Emily: it will be easier. It will be easier. I think if you start with names, that’s just my, my immediate feedback to the person a B, and then you add that name later, I think is going to be confusing.

[00:39:16] Andrew: Okay. All right. So this is a classic example of someone who wants some equipment for free in exchange for exposure question mark.

[00:39:28] And this, then that that’s just the basic premise of this plot. And that goes to places where I’ve never seen this,

[00:39:36] Emily: where lends oldest song as old as TX T dot for exposure.

[00:39:45] Andrew: Yeah. Uh, but it, this, the story goes places it’s nuts. Definitely in the ballpark of, uh, like, it seems like one of those, like, it feels like a thriller novel where to start.

[00:39:57] Show where it starts off with like a really serene, like, this is a very standard family sitcoms. It starts to get really weird, really fast. Like, oh, I can see that.

[00:40:05] Emily: Yes. You’re like, oh, it’s, it’s a show about planes and the plane. And then it turns into like, it’s like, what

[00:40:13] Andrew: is snakes? There’s no Samuel L.

[00:40:15] Jackson,

[00:40:15] Emily: it’s just a play. It’s just a smoke monster that never gets explained. And then disappointment in a Weezer record, AKA disappointment. So the person

[00:40:27] Andrew: who would like something, what was his name? Cody Wolf.

[00:40:29] Emily: So Cody, Cody Wolf, who is apparently very well known in Nashville for author Humphries,

[00:40:36] Andrew: all the wrong reasons.

[00:40:38] None of the reasons why you would want to be known in Nashville,

[00:40:41] Emily: which is for being talented. That’s the only reason you want to be now because you’re good at what you do and not a piece of shit.

[00:40:50] Andrew: Yeah, no, I, I think I’d rather not be where I’m at right now, which is not known in Nashville. Uh, then we know in Nashville for the reasons the sky is

[00:41:00] Emily: true.

[00:41:00] Weirdly I was weirdly famous in Nashville for a number of years. And I don’t want to talk about it.

[00:41:06] Andrew: I’m going to ask you that

[00:41:07] Emily: later, but not right. You ask me about it at the end of the episode, I’ll tell you, let’s say to Cody Wolf and our friends, small sound big sounds, fantastic pedal company, most famous for the thought overdrive, uh, which if you listened to our first episode, Mike Adams, he has a custom fuck overdrive called the footage overdrive and as Ralphie from a Christmas story on it.

[00:41:31] So I was actually my introduction to small sound big sound,

[00:41:34] Andrew: actually, honestly, that was also my introduction as small sound big sound. And if I had to take a Gander, Mike has given them some of the most publicity

[00:41:43] Emily: after Cody wool.

[00:41:48] But yeah, so, I mean, so small company, I imagine one, maybe one and a half people. The main person and then maybe some help and, um, small company, you know, and I will say I don’t do a ton of demos with very small companies when I do. They’re either free, they’re free. I pay for the pedal or a demo. The pedal is in the back.

[00:42:16] And there’s a reason for that is because they’re small and they have limited budget and the smaller the business, the more I want to help them out, generally speaking, it kind of depends. It really like I actually, frankly, I charge for every demo I do now.

[00:42:34] Andrew: Um, I, I just, I’m going to play the part of Cody Wolf.

[00:42:39] I’ll be the dirt

[00:42:39] Emily: play. The part of code Cody will, but you have to commit actually, I think, mm might’ve be more fun if I play the part of Cody Wolf,

[00:42:48] Andrew: never crumble that beer can hear, so.

[00:42:50] Emily: Okay. Sure, sure, sure. I’m just actually gonna read the direct message thread that a small sound big sound posted. I’ve got pulled up.

[00:42:59] All right, go ahead. Read it, read it, read it.

[00:43:01] Andrew: Hey, I came across your fuck overdrive and I really like it and a chance I can try it out and you could add me on it as an artist, kind of wanted it to be a, see her weapon looking for a really unique pedal. So I can kind of create my own sound as an artist.

[00:43:18] And this thing is really cool and unique. I think it would fit really well. Half off for your favorite private jet rocking future country superstar.

[00:43:31] Emily: So then do you want me to, do you want me to just kill you, start dissecting it. Do we want to go?

[00:43:39] Andrew: That’s the best light of this whole thing.

[00:43:42] Emily: I know there’s a fucking idiot. So then we get into the small, big sound response. Hey, thanks so much for the interest. I have some thoughts, exclamation point first off, flexing that you fly private, but her asking for a hundred dollars off from an independent gear manufacturer is not really a good look and definitely doesn’t impress, impress the me in the slightest.

[00:44:07] Uh, I would rethink this approach when contacting other makers in the future. Second, your last tweet felt a bit transphobic. So how about we make a deal? I’ll give you a distance. Make a $150 donation to no more dysphoria, dysphoria.org and send me a screenshot. And the pedal is yours. And Cody’s response is to block him blocked.

[00:44:36] Well, can we start with this, this weird? Yes. Hold that up. So I just want people who can keep it up, keep it up, keep it up and put up. I want to point out something. This dude pointed out the private plane. Not only does he have a terrible Photoshop, private plane, his profile picture private plane. And you mentioned a private plane and the message.

[00:45:00] And if you look at this dudes, Instagram, there’s 15 photos of something of him on a stupid ass fake private plane. I probably rented for two hours to take a photo shoot with five different shirts. That’s my guess this person has been near a private plane and has made it his entire personality. It was worse.

[00:45:26] I, I thought I sincerely thought he’s been on a private plane because. Like, if you think about four, do you know the band Florida Georgia line?

[00:45:36] Andrew: Yes.

[00:45:37] Emily: Well, they came from so much by the one of their dad’s own flew private plane had a plane that he flew around and sadly died in an accident involving that plane.

[00:45:46] And I wouldn’t wish that on anybody, but like, so I’m thinking someone in country music who has access to a private plane, not weird, but the more I dug into it, the more I realized, what are you, what are you playing

[00:46:00] Andrew: feeling? So fly like a G six by far is moving

[00:46:05] Emily: nice. I, I respect it. So I just assumed this guy had been on a private plane and I find out later, probably not because all up and coming musicians.

[00:46:16] Let me talk to you for a second. Let me talk sincerely to up and coming musicians about private planes. Don’t do it. Don’t do it until you have Marin Morris money, because if you’re labeled. If your management, if anybody, who’s not, you put you on a private plane, you think cool. Someone’s flying me on a private plane, wrong.

[00:46:40] Someone is charging you for that private plane. You are flying everybody else on that plane. It’s coming out of your money. So fly commercial babies until you have real money. And this guy, this coding Wolf guy, firstly, he posts this big, long thing on his website. They gave a lot of insight to him. He’s written songs as he was a teenager.

[00:47:01] Very cool. Fine. I love it. He got on Twitter and social media as a teenager, full cool on. I love it. Um, he started Houston just on follow for a long time. I respect it. But this guy through bought purchases and allegedly using this kind of unfollow software, which I’ve personally used full disclosure. I’m a marketer.

[00:47:26] I’ve tried to use it smartly. He’s a mess, half a million YouTube followers, uh, not YouTube, Twitter followers. And he gets the average of about 20 to 30 likes proposed, which means what you’re doing is marketing. Isn’t working that’s bad return friends. It’s a bad return. It’s bad, it’s bad. It’s awful. And this guy, apparently he seems to create what they call sock puppet.

[00:47:56] Do you know what a sock puppet account is,

[00:47:59] Andrew: uh, where you created an account that you then log into just like you’re interact with your own stuff,

[00:48:04] Emily: like a little puppet that you thought

[00:48:09] Andrew: legitimize their own accounts.

[00:48:10] Emily: Politicians do it to say things like I’m not going to get into that. It’s not worth it. Oh,

[00:48:16] Andrew: that’s a great idea. And

[00:48:17] Emily: that sounds affordable. No, just like, and then they forget to log out of there. So log into the sock puppet accounts and then just post something. The sock puppet account.

[00:48:27] Yeah. That happened last year. And it was really, really funny. Um, but yeah, so this guy, he, he basically to recap again, he asked, uh, like essentially a one-to-one and half small person company for a discount. I pedal as an artist. She really had himself. He retweets himself. Every single tweet does every single one, every single one, every single one.

[00:48:55] I don’t know why I can’t explain it. I don’t care to know why. Um, so yeah, he, it’s not uncommon for artists to ask brands. They like, if they can be endorsed by this brand, it’s really normal. And like I, as a demo artists frequently out to reach out to brands and ask, are you looking at, do you have any demo needs?

[00:49:18] I shouldn’t, I actually haven’t done that in a minute. I should, I should do more of that.

[00:49:26] This guy didn’t approach it. Well, I don’t tend to approach the world’s smallest brands that do cool stuff. If they’ll give me something I might ask at most for an artist discount, and maybe I’ll ask for something on loan. I try really try not to approach people in this way, but what the most offensive thing about this is the guy as small sound big sound for a discount, and then tries to talk about flying on private jets.

[00:50:00] Like I’m I am sorry. I think it’s the biggest forest in the world and the people who most afford like converse shoes and the shit, get them for free. It is a farce.

[00:50:13] Andrew: Hey, uh, yeah. Mr. Bezos, I, you know, I’d love for you to have this card, but could you pay for it? Cause you’re.

[00:50:22] Emily: I bet he pays for cars. He’s not, he doesn’t really he’s doesn’t really influence anything except for like other entrepreneur types.

[00:50:30] Sure. I see Elon, Musk’s getting more leeway in terms of like free shit,

[00:50:36] Andrew: uh, or, or his girlfriend

[00:50:39] Emily: crimes. Yeah. I can see that. I like her music generally speaking. I also loved her as a princess speech on us. No, that was so bad.

[00:50:51] Andrew: I still, I, I refuse to watch any of his stuff on SNL haven’t yet. I will.

[00:50:56] Emily: Yeah, I watched, I watched the whole thing.

[00:50:57] I’m going to watch it later, but I still watch it.

[00:51:00] Andrew: Uh, yeah. I mean, piggybacking off of last week’s episode, he’s just not agree. Even I’ve heard enough stories about what he’s like, I’m not interested.

[00:51:11] Emily: I don’t know. I really haven’t. Um, I know his family. Why are we talking about Elon Musk again? I think he, I think he can be quite fun.

[00:51:22] I also think it can be an asshole, but again, people contain multitudes. Go on, send them your hate mail.

[00:51:31] Andrew: Hate mail.

[00:51:32] Emily: Not me. Don’t

[00:51:33] Andrew: send me. I can

[00:51:34] Emily: take it. I can too, but I don’t

[00:51:37] Andrew: want to. I mean, I, yeah.

[00:51:41] Emily: Oh, he went away and then he

[00:51:43] Andrew: came back. Okay. No, I didn’t go away. No, I just, I hit the big freeze. I hit the big trees.

[00:51:48] It’s not a brain freeze.

[00:51:50] Emily: Oh, you, you reminded us to, to bring up this topic. So what’s funny to me is that I ended up falling down a big Cody Wolf rabbit hole that I’m happy to talk about, but I would love to hear whatever you have to say first.

[00:52:02] Andrew: I mean, for starters, what he tweeted was very transphobic.

[00:52:06] Emily: He said, why do all the women in Texas had add on the apples?

[00:52:09] Yeah.

[00:52:11] Andrew: Which is,

[00:52:15] yeah, that’s not

[00:52:16] Emily: great. I mean, I just don’t know why you would tweet that.

[00:52:22] Andrew: Yeah, I don’t know. Is it, I guess, is it a slam against Texas? Is this slam against trans woman? Is it like, I don’t understand the point

[00:52:34] Emily: from a monetary perspective as a country musician, why the fuck would you try to insult all the women of Texas?

[00:52:42] They’re probably your single largest demographic. Like what is wrong with you as a stupid, dumb, dumb that you’re trying to insult? One women are the biggest consumers of country music by a lot too. Texas has to be one of the biggest consumers of country music, right? Install women from Texas w. I just, I can’t even think of, I can’t think of anything that’s like, that sounds stupid to me, you

[00:53:12] Andrew: know, for someone who we’ve established as in marketing presence, it seems like such an out of left field kind of move.

[00:53:21] I think it falls. So wishing the category of like,

[00:53:29] like,

[00:53:31] Emily: I don’t know, it’s like, um,

[00:53:35] Andrew: it’s some childish man, baby toxic masculinity kind of not

[00:53:39] Emily: it’s like there was a female folk singer and kind of the vein of Anita Franco years ago, who, who stood up against gay marriage and I’m like, bitch, do you know your audience is 95% lesbian.

[00:54:02] Listening to this.

[00:54:04] Andrew: Okay. And that’s obviously that all of this criticism like falls into the category. Like this is just talking about the money. It’s not even talking about the decent

[00:54:13] Emily: to make money. Could you imagine Melissa Etheridge coming out for prop eight or like against gay marriage to be like, Melissa has some self-respect

[00:54:28] insulting every woman

[00:54:30] Andrew: Texans.

[00:54:34] Emily: Also, it was very transformative.

[00:54:38] Andrew: I’m just imagining this now coming on, like in a line dancing club and then women just tossing their bud light bottles.

[00:54:45] Emily: You called us. She said we had Adams. I’m like, listen, I think I’m deep on the show. Expect and understand that. We’re like, if you’re transphobic, you can fuck all the way out.

[00:54:56] But like from just a pure capitalism perspective, could you have done something Delmar? Like I imagine if he, if he had a real publicist and not just this big publicist that you made up, which just seems to be what happened. Like,

[00:55:19] Andrew: I, I

[00:55:21] Emily: would scream so hard that you, if you were my client and I was your publicist and you were country cigarette, you assaulted every woman in text.

[00:55:31] I smack you in the ear. I can’t, I can’t work with this guy, but yeah. So he seems to have, um, essentially bought his audience. He seems to have, um, made up his manager. What’s funny to me is, and I, I actually tweeted this at small soundbites. He, uh, Cody had, uh, tweeted as his manager. It’s this 12 from 2013 manager for Cody Wolf speaks out colon Blake writes manager for Cody Wolf, but cuff management group took to Twitter under Cody’s account.

[00:56:12] Announcing the rising country star will no longer be performing three shows. My artist is worth as much as all the artists in country music and deserves the right to get paid. Huh?

[00:56:29] Andrew: There’s irony found, it found the irony as if this was lacking in irony through and through at this stage

[00:56:37] Emily: in the breakdown of lack of self-awareness

[00:56:40] Andrew: aggressive is one of the terms I would go with. Yeah, man, I look at the, uh, the screenshot that a small sound big so that he pulled down the transfer between he did.

[00:56:51] Emily: He did people were. Really piling on him, just for that tweet people. For the most part, I haven’t seen, I actually searched his handle and didn’t see a ton of dunks on him. Um, Reddit actually tweets about like posts about him quite a lot, like on country music, Reddit, they think he’s a joke. I’m sure he’s just really loves getting like the attention.

[00:57:13] So I feel like I sh I cringe a little bit saying his name, but I feel like it’s important that people know, like what kind of person a person is. Um, I actually remember seeing tweets about this guy a while back because he threw his fake seemingly fake. I should say publicity company said country music newest that watch out Morgan Wallen country.

[00:57:34] Music’s new. His bad boys are already banned from Twitter, but he’s obviously not bad. You put her, she

[00:57:42] Andrew: should be

[00:57:45] Emily: banned from the city of Nashville. Let me tell

[00:57:47] Andrew: you. Yeah, I mean, this is, this is the kind of guy that gets 86, a second drink at a bar.

[00:57:53] Emily: Like, no, no, no more, no more drinks for this guy. No more, no more.

[00:57:57] Uh, what’s the drink? Natty lights for this guy. No more steel reserved for

[00:58:03] Andrew: lights. Natter days. There’s strawberry

[00:58:08] Emily: lemonade, but it’s

[00:58:10] Andrew: naturalized. Yeah. It’s by natural ice and it’s, and they call it a natter days.

[00:58:15] Emily: That feels bad. It’s so bad.

[00:58:18] Andrew: It is so bad.

[00:58:20] Emily: That sounds like, I imagine that tastes like the bar that you have the day after you had too many daiquiris.

[00:58:28] Andrew: Yes. That’s exactly what it

[00:58:30] Emily: tastes like. It tastes like, it sounds like it tastes like the gutter new Orleans

[00:58:41] Andrew: vodka and like, so stale strawberries.

[00:58:46] Emily: In like the bud light seltzers and stuff. I didn’t realize all of these hard seltzers are. They’re basically malt. Liquor. Yep. Oh, they’re all more awful. Yeah. It’s

[00:58:56] Andrew: all distilled malt

[00:58:58] Emily: liquor. It’s like Topo, Chico. I like it. So I’m like, oh, I’ll try their seltzer. It was, it was bad.

[00:59:05] Like why don’t they just mix vodka with the soda by August sodas, it’d be

[00:59:11] Andrew: that much more expensive and you can make seltzer for so cheap. There’s so much less that goes into versus like a beer or something.

[00:59:21] Emily: Friends. Why are you buying this stuff? Why are you buying white claws? Like I respect, I get it, I guess.

[00:59:27] Fine. Do you do you, but a lot of good tonics exist. They’re Keno approved. So I just don’t understand, like, I just don’t wanna, I don’t. What? Oh, I only like any of them I I’ve had truly, truly is generally indeed, probably the most tolerant I actually, Stan won seltzer. I found pleasant.

[00:59:53] Andrew: Those under the category of it’s hot outside, you just did some yard work.

[00:59:57] You’re sweating outdoors. It’s just, if it’s cold and bubbling, it gets the job done. I’ve

[01:00:04] Emily: never been drunker than when at a sea fair festival. My friend, Justin made me a cocktail white claw and the Lizzo absolute bod could use brand.

[01:00:13] Andrew: Oh, could be gravy. Yeah. No, I think

[01:00:18] Emily: we’ve, we’ve really lost the topic, but

[01:00:20] Andrew: I know we’ve lost the topic, but I’m going to, I’m going to run those for a second.

[01:00:22] Emily: I’d actually say this guy is a goober. He’s

[01:00:26] Andrew: an absolute,

[01:00:28] Emily: yes, don’t do this. Like, oh, can I say one more thing about how I’m sorry to dominate, but I have feelings. This guy keeps bragging. Oh, between Tik TOK and Twitter, we’ve already had a million listens of my name, same one, dude, you have half a million Twitter followers and you couldn’t get to 1 million listens just from Twitter to half a million people watched a bird shit on me and Tik TOK.

[01:00:56] It’s not impressive to get a million views between the video of a bird shitting on me on tech top and my tweet about my mom thinking I left my weed out. When it was catnip, I’ve had a million impressions. It’s not impressive to have a million listens of your song between Tik TOK and Twitter. Unless you also think that it’s impressive that a bird shit on me and my mom was not been around bud ever probably mistake my cat, Nick for.

[01:01:30] Not impressive. Not impressed by me. Go, go for it.

[01:01:35] Andrew: Odds are his last name is actually Wolf or the, he give himself his artist’s name, his last name, Wolf to sound extra masculine

[01:01:43] Emily: Cody Wolf with pedia. Oh, he does not have

[01:02:01] to try that again. No, he has something on G Y a N J Jeff, sorry. G Y a N I P pedia prod, hyphen Cody Wolf. Oh, no.

[01:02:21] Andrew: Oh, that’s let’s keep, keep reading, keep bringing the guy. You

[01:02:23] Emily: have to. I have to hear this. Oh, just as he was born on June. Oh. He just had a birthday, June 7th, 1993, as a nationally recognized template.

[01:02:31] Poland fixed slash category country music, singer songwriter. He’s from connect kit.

[01:02:43] Andrew: Sorry to our listeners from Connecticut that wasn’t directed specifically at you.

[01:02:47] Emily: You think we have listeners in connect the kit to kit? I think we have more listeners in like Nova Scotia. I mean, I believe

[01:02:56] Andrew: that

[01:02:57] Emily: I think you have a pretty struck any kid.

[01:03:01] Andrew: I do. Oh boy. Do I love Canadia?

[01:03:04] Emily: I love Canada. Please adopt me Canada.

[01:03:09] Oh, you should. When the borders open up, we should, we should do a Vancouver thing, laws and NAC and Vancouver, BC, if you have guitar repair needs or want to buy a fantastic guitar by a fantastic Lucier Nicole law’s knack in Vancouver, BC.

[01:03:24] Andrew: Yeah, I good. I have some, some dimsum

[01:03:28] Emily: okay. Oh yeah. Yeah. They have some great, they have that for sure.

[01:03:33] That’s us some great Belgian waffles and Jen.

[01:03:38] Andrew: And what, I’ve just my favorite thing. So I, this is gonna sound terrible as we’re like condensing this all down and realize I’m going to absolute farce. This, this artist is artist seems like a strong term. Right?

[01:03:53] Emily: Well, listen, he’s done. Can I just give him one thing?

[01:03:56] I credit his studies. He’s done the thing and he’s trying, but he’s also being a Dick

[01:04:02] Andrew: he’s trying in all of the wrong ways. Yeah. He tweeted that transphobic thing. And at the point of screenshot had 29, like reacts,

[01:04:13] Emily: uh, again, half a million followers. There’s

[01:04:17] Andrew: 29, like reacts

[01:04:21] Emily: for like eight hours.

[01:04:23] Andrew: Yeah. So he was willing to re like risk saying something like that.

[01:04:27] Terrible for 29, like racks. I mean, that’s,

[01:04:32] Emily: I also saw

[01:04:34] Andrew: my expectations are for like a terrible joke that I post on Facebook to my friends and

[01:04:38] Emily: family was your 258 friends or something

[01:04:43] Andrew: I actually don’t know are married. I know I cut. I literally cut like a

[01:04:45] Emily: thousand a few months ago. I say most people have like a maximum of 250 dear friends.

[01:04:54] It’s like generally perceived as like the maximum that a one person can handle

[01:04:59] Andrew: it. Yeah. I know. One of the things I did over COVID is I had like over a thousand, like 15. Friends on Facebook. And I just, just started scrolling through, like, these are people from internships and for colleges, I’m never going to see these people again.

[01:05:13] It’s not that I don’t care about them personally. Like, I’m sure they’re like some of them that are the nice people, but

[01:05:19] Emily: I am blessed. But do you want them to, like, it’s just not worth it. You have 483 friends

[01:05:24] Andrew: on Facebook. Quite a bit.

[01:05:27] Emily: That’s a lot. I have 869 and it’s just because of the music business.

[01:05:36] Andrew: I killed a lot of people in the music business too.

[01:05:39] Know that’s my personal

[01:05:39] Emily: thing. I have 113 mutual friends with Brian Burt and only 46 with my brother.

[01:05:47] Andrew: Yep.

[01:05:48] Emily: No,

[01:05:53] the 25 was our friend of the show. Sean Crawford.

[01:05:57] Andrew: So anyways, let’s talk about something important. I have had more light beer the last couple weeks than I’ve had in my entire.

[01:06:03] Emily: How does that make you feel

[01:06:06] Andrew: disappointed in myself? Because I enjoyed it.

[01:06:09] Emily: Don’t be disappointed. Cause you’d like, what you like and less what you’d like is hateful.

[01:06:15] Andrew: Uh, so why is the Nebraska? I had a chorus light that was in the eye. It’s like that cam bottle thing where it’s like shaped like a bottle, but it’s an aluminum can it’s. Cause we were playing ping pong in a hot

[01:06:24] Emily: garage. Right, right. So it’s like an aluminum, but it says a twisty task. Okay. Yeah. The aluminum, they love to give those out at races at five days.

[01:06:34] Yeah,

[01:06:35] Andrew: yeah. Yeah. So I mean, my diary that we can just terrible, the closest thing I had to vegetables, the, and my grits and I’m not even getting about that, but so I had that and then the wedding, they had Corona extras and it was just one of those. I mean, it was hot.

[01:06:50] Emily: Can you please tell me they put an E at the beginning of extra and the word extra, didn’t start with letter

[01:06:57] Andrew: X on the campaign.

[01:06:57] Don’t remember. Um, so I had a couple of those and it was just, it was warm. I mean, it’s warm outside the beer, wasn’t warm, but there was ice cold. It was

[01:07:07] Emily: sitting in the board. No dude, when you, when you, when it’s hot, like when it’s hot, you drink what you’re given. Like you drink, what’s available to keep yourself cool drinking, honestly, drinking beer on a hot day.

[01:07:21] It sounds dehydrating and awful. Like I’ve been to a lot of Bonners and I’ve never drank at any of them until it got dark.

[01:07:28] Andrew: I think it just fell into the category of like it’s, it’s cold and refreshing. And I liked it way more than I expect. I expected it to be like, uh, uh, cause I’ve had, I’ve had both of those things before and didn’t enjoy the experience either time, but I think I was drinking it on a super hot summer day.

[01:07:47] So yeah. Anyways, I’m uh, I’m trying to, decondition my snobbiness a little bit here, so that’s my justification. What’d you say? I’m trying to like.

[01:08:01] Emily: oh yeah, that’s always a good thing. Can I tell you about something that speaking of the snobbiness to that I’ve really liked what it’s this it’s this it’s this coffee. It’s like this whole pour over packets. The company’s called copper cow and it’s this little packet and you just kind of put it over your coffee mug.

[01:08:22] It has little wings that come out, so it just kind of hangs over your coffee mug. You don’t need any extra equipment, so you just tear open the little bag and then you pour hot water and you can fill the, the bag fire. A two to five times five would be like an Americano two would be like a traditional espresso.

[01:08:40] And, uh, it comes a little packet of creamer. Um, it’s basically Vietnamese coffee with like one six of the sugar and it is de light full. They have different flavors including. The standard black I’ve really been digging the lap. And during the vanilla flavors, they sponsored us at all. I’ve literally been just paying my money and the customer service has been really good.

[01:09:04] Like I got the chiro flavor and because of the spices and the chiro, it wasn’t draining through the bag that they had. And like, it took me like 10 minutes to get through to pores. Um, they were like, we believe you, can you just send the picture of the lot numbers so we can know like, what went wrong, where, and, uh, can we just send you another packet of whatever flavor you want Maura for free?

[01:09:29] It was beautiful, wonderful customer service. And frankly just like has been a very pleasant afternoon treat for me lately because it’s even with the creamer, it’s like a hundred calories. It tastes so good today. I had the lavender latte as an iced latte and it just, I was feeling. Sluggish. And it just made me really happy.

[01:09:54] So if you’re looking for something nice to get Melissa, dude, I really recommend it. Copper cow. I

[01:09:59] Andrew: will look into it, but I got to say, she’s doing a really good job with, uh, she’s been leaning into learning how to do the V 60, which is not the Hario V 60 is a pour-over. It’s like all ceramic. It looks like a mug, but that’s got a hold of the bottom.

[01:10:13] And I was talking to a friend who’s a former barista. And they’re like, oh yeah, I do. That was like the hardest, I don’t know I’m doing my stoner voice. Um,

[01:10:23] Emily: so what he thinks of you baristas now, he just thinks you’re laid back and chill and fun. That’s what he thinks.

[01:10:29] Andrew: I call them my dealers either way. And I used just to like, look like the V6.

[01:10:35] He’s really hard to get. It’s really unforgiving and it’d be able to get it to like taste decent. It takes a little bit of extra work and she’s been doing a really good job with it. And that’s a level of dedication that I appreciate.

[01:10:49] Emily: Yeah. I mean, they also tease and stuff. It’s just for me. Cause like my husband makes a pot of coffee every day and he would, he, if I asked him if like, baby, would you please make me a really nice latte?

[01:11:01] He would do it. But like, I don’t want to bug him all the time. It’s really, it’s really been nice to have. Okay. I think I

[01:11:08] Andrew: make the coffee, but then also do the seams milk and the sugar and all that. It’s like that much extra work

[01:11:14] Emily: love. Um, but I’m definitely going to take some with me when I travel, because I heard this terrible story that ruined, um, hotel coffee for me forever.

[01:11:26] Do you want to hear

[01:11:26] Andrew: it? Yeah. Yes I do. But I’m also, this is one of those, like watching a train crash happens, low emotion kind of moments.

[01:11:34] Emily: So there, there, there, it does have to cure cup and there, the hotels still have just like a little bag of coffee with a little coffee pot that makes like a couple cups.

[01:11:42] Yeah. I’ve heard people clean their underwear and socks though.

[01:11:49] They just put them in there with the hot water, with the water, heat it up with some soap and they cleaned their drawers in them. They’re under ruse or panties and their socks. It really brings a new meaning to sock juice. Liz, you dish a set, which is the French phrase per week coffee, which is my favorite of the French phrases.

[01:12:12] And they should the show set because it was featured in episode rock tomorrow. Life Andrew is dying. He is dry heaving and laughing simultaneously.

[01:12:21] Andrew: Okay. So this solidifies it. I, so I’ve got my arrow press that I’ve been meaning to travel with. I think, uh, the, the barrier to me traveling with the next time I go travel, uh, which actual this next time I’m traveling to Santa Cruz.

[01:12:34] To stay at a friend’s place that does really mixed big coffee, but

[01:12:37] Emily: yeah. Yeah. And he probably has a washing machine that he uses to wash it.

[01:12:42] Andrew: No, no, it solidifies any, there’s an immersion boiler situation that you can get to like literally boil water in your coffee cup. I’ve already got the air press, which is great for travel.

[01:12:55] Uh, yeah. It’s just like an exposed coil of like a hook that hangs off the edge of the cup. And you just plugs directly

[01:13:00] Emily: that, that sounds, that sounds like a fire hazard. That sounds like something you make in girl, boy, girl scout, camp, boy scout camp. I don’t know.

[01:13:10] Andrew: No. It’s like literally just like an AC, like positive, negative, and just goes through and through the water, it just recharges it.

[01:13:21] That sounds like a great indie record.

[01:13:25] Emily: Any record label,

[01:13:29] Andrew: honestly, that sounds, that sounds more rational than hamburger records. So burger

[01:13:35] Emily: wrapper.

[01:13:39] Andrew: Yeah. So again, one of those not getting it like a manual grinder, you just kind

[01:13:42] Emily: of do this. Yeah. A bird grinder. Yeah. We have one of those it’s I’ve got,

[01:13:47] Andrew: I’ve got an electric one, but I don’t have a travel size, a manual one. Um, you get your

[01:13:51] Emily: arm work out that way,

[01:13:53] Andrew: so yeah,

[01:13:54] Emily: for right. Yeah. So you won’t have to worry about chatting to you say your friends.

[01:13:59] I will

[01:13:59] Andrew: check the Fitbit app. Honey. Why were you, why is your heart rate? Like a 150 at like six in the morning.

[01:14:05] Emily: It’s sincerely a workout, but

[01:14:10] Andrew: like go honey.

[01:14:12] Emily: Like, Hey mom and dad is amazing. Your, your Fitbit heart rates were up at 11:15 PM. Last night. Both of you for 10 minutes.

[01:14:25] I favorite thing is breaking Andrew twice in 10 minutes.

[01:14:29] Andrew: Hey, look, someone sent me a, sent me a pillow. I couldn’t help it.

[01:14:33] Emily: Don’t say hello. When you say put their podcasts, you send them a pillow. Don’t do it.

[01:14:41] Andrew: All right. I think that’s it.

[01:14:43] Emily: What was the thing that you wanted me to tell you? Oh, why I was mildly famous,

[01:14:48] Andrew: famous Nashville. I want to know, because if I’m going to, if I’m going to continue to be associated with you, I have to know these things.

[01:14:55] Emily: Uh, one of my advisors in college said that she was concerned that I didn’t have enough enough extracurriculars.

[01:15:02] Uh, so I was thinking about how, um, There were four free groups in other cities, but Nashville didn’t really have one. So I started at first a Twitter account and called Nash for free, where I would just tweet about free shit that was happening in Nashville. And that turned into a blog called Nashville for free.com.

[01:15:23] And, uh, it was getting like a thousand views a day. It was quite a successful blog. It was featured in Nashville scene for best resource for all things free and Nashville. I actually lost a few friendships over it and made some small amounts of money on it. But, uh, and that has been weirdly a major part in many of the jobs I’ve gotten in my adult life was that I had a website of successful called Nashville for free.com.

[01:15:52] I was hoping I would get to take over from his cheap to see him, but I think she’s still there. Yeah. But yeah. So I remember once I went on a date kind of like a blind internet, that kind of thing. I told the guy, I ran Nashville for free.com and he got real fan boy. And I was like, I need to leave. Yeah.

[01:16:14] But people, people knew what it was. And it was like in PR, like I think some Nashvillians of a certain age will remember Nashville for free.com. That was like, that was a, that was a unique age of Nashville blogosphere. It was kind of a good, there’s a good

[01:16:30] Andrew: reason to have name recognition in

[01:16:32] Emily: Nashville though.

[01:16:34] It is. It is because I didn’t think no one else was really doing no one, like Ms. Chief had her demographic and I had mine and it taught me a lot. It taught me how to write for an audience because I thought the audience would be a lot of college kids. Like I was at the time, it turns out it was a lot of young families who wanted free shit to do on the weekends.

[01:16:54] Yeah.

[01:16:55] Andrew: I think that is significantly more impressive than like jerked off in a private yeah.

[01:17:01] Emily: No. He rented a private jet for a couple hours for a photo shoot that I do.

[01:17:07] Andrew: She did with that time.

[01:17:10] Emily: I think he, I think he changed his shirt as many times as he possibly could. Andrew. So he could have a whole life started with a

[01:17:18] Andrew: long beard and a whole rack of shirts and like slowly trimmed out his beard and changed shirts.

[01:17:22] Emily: And it looked like opposite in opposite order.

[01:17:28] Andrew: Yeah, that sounds about right.

[01:17:30] Emily: Yeah, no, I just do want people to understand that, uh, across the country, there are dozens of places where you can live gentlemanly, rent, a private plane that never leaves the tarmac or a set that just looks like a private plane and stars.

[01:17:47] As big as a bow have been busted for pretending to fly on private planes. It’s not worth it. And also if you’re trying to be an up and coming country star. And you think about your, your, again, this is like a big know your audience thing. Why do you think they give a shit that you’re on a private plane? I have no idea, like country, like we’ve talked about the fetishization of authenticity.

[01:18:13] It’s huge. And country music like country musicians wants you to be authentic. That’s why people love the story about George Jones getting arrested for DUI on a riding lawn mower, because they can relate to that shit. You’ve not heard that story have you. I have

[01:18:31] Andrew: it. But now I’m just imagining like 20 cans of Busch light deep.

[01:18:34] And during evening, realizing that you got to move the tractor to the other field before done.

[01:18:41] Emily: I’m sure George Jones has not been the only man in the past five minutes. Who’s been drunk on a ride. One word. That’s a piece of the possum. One last note. You don’t know anything about? I know,

[01:18:56] Andrew: I just know. I just imagined like someone drunkenly writing over a possum in a riding lawnmower at 11,

[01:19:11] Emily: one of my most beloved animals.

[01:19:14] Andrew: It’s compost.

[01:19:16] Emily: Now one of my most beloved childhood stuffed animals was this stuffy of a possum. Did you have fun? Is this a normal thing to have listeners? Please, please tell me because it’s been a fun one though,

[01:19:32] Andrew: like tearing up a little bit from that one,

[01:19:37] Emily: but did you know that his nickname was the possum? Jesus you’re fucking fired.

[01:19:54] Who’s the most famous country singer, you know,

[01:19:58] Andrew: cliff black, dark flux. And those are the three I listened to as a kid.

[01:20:07] Emily: You’ve never heard the song. White light

[01:20:10] Andrew: changes are for the song I just turned.

[01:20:18] Emily: why I lightened dude. He stopped loving her today. I think that was, I’m pretty sure it was him married to Tammy. Why that,

[01:20:27] Andrew: what you’re saying? There’s a reason there is a reason why I signed up to do a metal core cover of a wiggle song. Not a country cover.

[01:20:39] Emily: Yeah, I would do the country cover. Okay. Well, um, so right now the patrion.com/get offset thing is.

[01:20:50] A hundred dollars. Andrew does a metal core version of the wiggle song at $250. I’ll do a George Jones S country music cover of one of those. Obviously I’ll have to get a man to sing it because shit

[01:21:06] Andrew: I’ll sing it all. I’ll do my fake country voice.

[01:21:10] Emily: How, okay. Do it right now or I won’t commit it.

[01:21:17] Andrew: No, I can’t do it on the spot like that.

[01:21:19] I got it. I got to sit in a corner by myself, my own vocal booth

[01:21:25] Emily: and

[01:21:29] Andrew: so Melissa is the most that hates me for this. But when she gets into a song, I like to break out my country voice and like, she’ll do like, like get into a pop song and I’ll just start singing. Like it’d been a long day. Just kind of very hip without you, my friend.

[01:21:47] Emily: That’s that’s actually vaguely George Jones ask.

[01:21:50] I think George, I think you’ve heard George Jones songs. I think you understand that George Jones, his voice is like these stairs, like the ideal male country singer voice. It is actually quite a perfect voice. It’s

[01:22:05] Andrew: all right. Well, that’s, that’s a lot to live up to. I can’t guarantee if I trade it, it will be anything but cartoonish, but I’ll have fun with it.

[01:22:14] Emily: Well, thanks for watching. This has been get offset. My name is Andrew and my name is Emily until next time. Thanks for listening. Thanks for understanding. We’re doing great. Goodbye.